The first winter with out 9630 and grouser we had 710 metrics and no weight. We had the same issue as you. We put John Deere weights on all 4 outter wheels and filled the tires with beat pulp. We also hung a steel weight box with filled with 6000lbs of concrete off the 3 point. It made all the difference. We didn't notice a change with ground compaction durring spring tillage and it seemed way more sure footed on the silage pile. The whole weight package was around $10k all together in 2012 through the dealer ship. We made the concrete filled box ourselves with 1/4 and 1/2" plate steel 4" L channel. I see some areas where we still might have struggled. But all that weight stopped that big 6 way grouser straight blade from bullying the 9630 around like that. I could push through areas the grader had to ram with a v plow with little effort. Thanks for bringing us this video. I some times I miss the days working dairy in Northern Michigan plowing in the milk truck for us and the neighbors... Milk never stops. Luke.
V plows are great for busting through but unless you have another rig with an angled plow to clean up the mess after, forget it. Vs are useless for that.
The lead in line said I am not afraid of any snow. There is a point that you should be. But this is good for the vast majority of times. Wisdom is knowing when your over matched. Great power allows you to get stuck in the worst places.
It is a Monster! It's pushing some severely heavy wet snow. That tractor dosen't need spiked chains it will rip them apart or you would need some seriously thick chains. Dosen't help it has that front and rear stearing, Everytime he hits it turns.
Watched this last year and as it popped up again I watched it again and came up with the same conclusion and that is that Big old Farm tires are almost no good for plowing snow even if you have 8 of them. In Europe they plow with high speed tractors but they all have Siped Radial winter tires and with only 4 of them they can out push the big monster tractor your using. I ran a big 8 wheel White tractor with those big Ag tires and on any hardpack snow or icy road it couldn't move at all. It could pull just about anything in the summer though. I did Subscribe this time around though.
I think I'd be asking the neighbors for permission to drive through the fields. Good job on getting through it but dang, there's gotta be an easier route
As impressive as this is, I can't help but wonder if it would do better with single wheels? I've done my fair share of plowing with different types of vehicles, with different styles of tires, and even tracks, and it seems the best combination is skinny tires under a heavy machine. More ground pressure the better. Tracks did great until things got icy, then they were useless.
@@andrewbrummer9539 well if the chains were installed right, 15mp is nothing for them. Semis run chains all throughout the mountains here if the snow is bad enough. They go 35-40 mph with chains. I know because my dad drives semi’s. The mountain snow crew always makes them wear chains even for not bad of snow.
Ground pressure is a function of PSI in the tires. Running singles or duals won't make much difference in the size of the contact patch or the ground pressure if they are they are inflated the same. What does change, is the SHAPE of the contact patch. Assuming similar inflation pressure, a single tire will make a LONG contact patch like a track, a dual will have a short wide contact patch. The longer contact patch does tend to work better than a wide one for the forces involved on snow/dirt, and there are probably minimum pressures that the tires can be run when configured as duals so that sidewalls don't rub and so that they hold a bead, all pointing to advantages for a single tire in this situation (assuming no additional weight). Anyway, the point here, is that the reason a single might be superior to a dual in this application has little to do with ground pressure and more to do with the shape of the contact patch. Now... if we run a single with twice the PSI as a double, then it will actually shrink the contact patch to about half, and give higher contact pressure, but that's not likely to work better. Ultimately, the most tractive effort available in these circumstances is going to come from adding weight to the tractor, to the tune of enough weight to really force some long contact patches on a dual tire installation. The most possible surface area combined with the most possible weight will provide the most force before slippage.
Awesome machine. That tractor with a three point hitch and blower on the back would make you invincible. The blower would throw that snow way out of the way of the next batch. The blade would be for normal depths and cleanup. I'm sure we're talking a lot of money here though. But it would be the bomb.
@@tombexy A company called Larue makes them for tractors and loaders . Some run off of PTO and some are self-contained with their own engine. Saw one model rated for 1200 hp. Usually they're sold to municipalities.
@@tombexy take an auger from a corn head , put it into a thousand gallon propane tank . the rest is pretty much self explanatory for you . I have a corn head I will build one for you if you like . Not hard to do at all especially with a tractor like yours
@@tombexy if you could find other uses for one on the farm aside from snow removal it would almost be worth it to try to find a big ol v blade for this here john deer, or find some sort of way to make that Degelman plow into a v blade.
@@tombexy A thousand gallon propane tank , with a auger from a old corn head , " the corn head will give you all the clutches etc and you have a awesome snow blower
however hard it is, looks like fun to me. Have to agree with a V blade and more traction. Which costs money. Cheapest way to get more traction, remove the outside tires.
If you have a huge farm I'd figure you'd invest in a huge front mounted snowblower with PTO power pack to clear the roads. Plows are for poor people like me. 😆
has any farmer ever not been stuck? that tractor is nearly unstoppable. some folks don't have the money for a v blade, a blower, tracks, or any of that happy stuff. they just go and get it done. it's in our DNA. God bless, farmer
The first winter with out 9630 and grouser we had 710 metrics and no weight. We had the same issue as you. We put John Deere weights on all 4 outter wheels and filled the tires with beat pulp. We also hung a steel weight box with filled with 6000lbs of concrete off the 3 point. It made all the difference.
We didn't notice a change with ground compaction durring spring tillage and it seemed way more sure footed on the silage pile. The whole weight package was around $10k all together in 2012 through the dealer ship. We made the concrete filled box ourselves with 1/4 and 1/2" plate steel 4" L channel.
I see some areas where we still might have struggled. But all that weight stopped that big 6 way grouser straight blade from bullying the 9630 around like that. I could push through areas the grader had to ram with a v plow with little effort.
Thanks for bringing us this video. I some times I miss the days working dairy in Northern Michigan plowing in the milk truck for us and the neighbors... Milk never stops.
Luke.
Excellent Video!
Great to watch sitting inside sipping a cup of coffee!
Wow that john deere can push a lot of snow! Can't wait to see the big tires on the 7r! Great job
Same
Spring is just around the corner!
to wide a plow for the traction you didn't have, you made that J.D. work harder than necessary
@@tombexy better already with a large caterpillar with metal chains it at least does not slip sideways
@@lathamarea1437 that tractor wasn't working at all. Breaking traction proves it.
Good to see one of your videos again. All the best this Spring with planting.
We run a steiger with a grouser. We use a 6000 lb weigh box on the 3pt when pushing snow. Big difference in steering and traction.
Open up a county road hats off to ya thats a lot of snow
Can I ask a question? What are you calling grouser?
Miss doing stuff like that out in the open country side
Loved watching this beast in action!
Snowblowers are nice...
Man that thing with some spiked chains would be an unstoppable monster.
I was thinking a 2500lb cement k rail for 3point
@@derekbentley334 5-6k lbs on the 3 pt
$500 dollar day. Without wages and major breakdowns. Good vid. Thanks
Good job...your pry ready for spring!
Yeah I am! It's nearly here!
Man a v plow would be sweet for you
I was thinking that same thing. Not enough traction and not enough angle on this set up. Much better would have a V
V plows are great for busting through but unless you have another rig with an angled plow to clean up the mess after, forget it. Vs are useless for that.
@@puntacanaman1 you have a strait blade with a v just hit the button🤦♂️
@@Dakotalogger That's not a true V plow but I get what you're saying.
Love your videos thanks 👍
Beautiful winter pics as always...lots of cheer to you from Sweden
Thanks i'm hoping it warms up here!
We added 3,000 lb over the rear axle and chains on all four duels 20.842s amazing the difference chains make with a grouser blade. John Deere 8760
Yeah I can imagine the difference, its a lot of cost for something I don't normally need though!
Awesome video, that tractor is a life saver with all the snow you guys have 👍
Yeah it has its place on the farm!
Enjoyed this very much. That thing is a beast
Yep definitely need more weight in the rear balancing plow and adding traction even the additional ramming momentum would feel like a huge improvement
Yeah Probably would help!
Chains?
That’s what I call American muscle 💪🚜
The lead in line said I am not afraid of any snow. There is a point that you should be. But this is good for the vast majority of times. Wisdom is knowing when your over matched. Great power allows you to get stuck in the worst places.
Remember snowblowers? Damn they do a good job
Great video
Snow is one thing. Ag tires on frozen ground is another.
Pretty fun to watch though
It was sheet ice under that snow from a rain we had earlier in the winter!
It is a Monster! It's pushing some severely heavy wet snow. That tractor dosen't need spiked chains it will rip them apart or you would need some seriously thick chains. Dosen't help it has that front and rear stearing, Everytime he hits it turns.
Speed, locking diff.?
That is a lot of snow!!!
Great drone work!!!!
Good video.
no lsd on tractor just a full locking differential
He's doing a mighty job
Those are some serious drifts to push a 40000 lb machine sideways like that. I didn't see any ballast on the rear 3 pt. Maybe that would help?
There’s no 3 point hitch on that 4wd! most big tractors don’t have have them unless they’re in the states on planters
Flying the drone, pushing snow, feeding sheep 🐑 and YouTubing videos all at the same time great work!!
Thank you!
super satisfying ✨💕
Weight and chains and that thing would be a force to be reckoned with.
Wonder if u could remove 4 tires to give it more traction seemed kinda weak to me.
I pushed a lot of silage with a 9320 and that corn blade! Works good for snow too lol
My gosh, how long is this driveway? 😂😂
Adding chains on all four corners would work, but how many times a season do you actually need them?
Big strong machine, not a smart one for moving snow.
I get that you work with what you have, but do they make a V-plow for it? Better, a snow thrower.
Must be Canada because we “plow” here in the US:)
would be nice to see a huge snow blower on that, would help you out, the weight of that snow makes the blade too big
Snow Busters!
Imagine how nice it would cut through if it had a V blade.
Yeah probably would have been the tool for the job! But hey you work with what you've got!
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@@tombexy where are you located Minnesota or the Dakota's
@@jeffreyhershey5754 Saskatchewan Canada!
@@tombexy figured that snow looked familiar. Hard as fuck and wind blown cheers bud.
Машина супер . работал на таком мне всё нравилось 👍👍👍
A grader with v plow would blow right tru them drifts
Watched this last year and as it popped up again I watched it again and came up with the same conclusion and that is that Big old Farm tires are almost no good for plowing snow even if you have 8 of them. In Europe they plow with high speed tractors but they all have Siped Radial winter tires and with only 4 of them they can out push the big monster tractor your using. I ran a big 8 wheel White tractor with those big Ag tires and on any hardpack snow or icy road it couldn't move at all. It could pull just about anything in the summer though. I did Subscribe this time around though.
Yeah we were on chains and put more weight in the back so she sits enjoy the the video 👍
Dozer works great for that kind of stuff. Very slow though
Looks like fun. I would just move the road / lane over in feild. For winter. 😊
I think I'd be asking the neighbors for permission to drive through the fields. Good job on getting through it but dang, there's gotta be an easier route
only way in with trucks! one mile to come at it from the south, it would have been 4 miles from the north!
As impressive as this is, I can't help but wonder if it would do better with single wheels? I've done my fair share of plowing with different types of vehicles, with different styles of tires, and even tracks, and it seems the best combination is skinny tires under a heavy machine. More ground pressure the better. Tracks did great until things got icy, then they were useless.
I hear ya! Single tires would dig in better, too much flotation on duals
@@tombexy what about chains?
@@crippledproductions2194 he said he plows 15mph chains breaking and flying off at the speed wouldn’t be good. Looks like he has to road it too
@@andrewbrummer9539 well if the chains were installed right, 15mp is nothing for them. Semis run chains all throughout the mountains here if the snow is bad enough. They go 35-40 mph with chains. I know because my dad drives semi’s. The mountain snow crew always makes them wear chains even for not bad of snow.
Ground pressure is a function of PSI in the tires. Running singles or duals won't make much difference in the size of the contact patch or the ground pressure if they are they are inflated the same. What does change, is the SHAPE of the contact patch. Assuming similar inflation pressure, a single tire will make a LONG contact patch like a track, a dual will have a short wide contact patch. The longer contact patch does tend to work better than a wide one for the forces involved on snow/dirt, and there are probably minimum pressures that the tires can be run when configured as duals so that sidewalls don't rub and so that they hold a bead, all pointing to advantages for a single tire in this situation (assuming no additional weight).
Anyway, the point here, is that the reason a single might be superior to a dual in this application has little to do with ground pressure and more to do with the shape of the contact patch. Now... if we run a single with twice the PSI as a double, then it will actually shrink the contact patch to about half, and give higher contact pressure, but that's not likely to work better.
Ultimately, the most tractive effort available in these circumstances is going to come from adding weight to the tractor, to the tune of enough weight to really force some long contact patches on a dual tire installation. The most possible surface area combined with the most possible weight will provide the most force before slippage.
I want one. I don't need one, but I want one!
What roads do you plow?
Normally just road we need to use to access our gain bags, we get the odd custom job though
Awesome machine. That tractor with a three point hitch and blower on the back would make you invincible. The blower would throw that snow way out of the way of the next batch. The blade would be for normal depths and cleanup. I'm sure we're talking a lot of money here though. But it would be the bomb.
Yeah that would be amazing! Im not sure if they make a snow blower rated for 470hp!
@@tombexy A company called Larue makes them for tractors and loaders . Some run off of PTO and some are self-contained with their own engine. Saw one model rated for 1200 hp. Usually they're sold to municipalities.
@@5075E Wow thats pretty crazy!
@@tombexy take an auger from a corn head , put it into a thousand gallon propane tank . the rest is pretty much self explanatory for you . I have a corn head I will build one for you if you like . Not hard to do at all especially with a tractor like yours
Lot of snow. But im really surprised how you struggled. Maybe ⛓ for next season. Nice rig though
Chains are too hard on tires for me!
Deep, hard snow is extremely hard to push. Blowers are the only really effective tool for it, but hey, you can't have every machine out there, right?
looks like fun
This is the kind of stuff where you wish you had a V Plow of some sort. Snow drifts are not fun to deal with.
I don't think most people realize how hard they can be!
@@tombexy if you could find other uses for one on the farm aside from snow removal it would almost be worth it to try to find a big ol v blade for this here john deer, or find some sort of way to make that Degelman plow into a v blade.
A half the tires too be sweet..js
@@tombexy A thousand gallon propane tank , with a auger from a old corn head , " the corn head will give you all the clutches etc and you have a awesome snow blower
Awesome video bro tho think set chains would help alot
There just so hard on tires and at $8000 each we try and take care of them!
@@tombexy maybe swap thrm over to wide boys instead of twins
@@tombexy chains would also cost like 8 k for a set of 2
Time for a snowblower
however hard it is, looks like fun to me. Have to agree with a V blade and more traction. Which costs money. Cheapest way to get more traction, remove the outside tires.
It’s sheet ice under the snow! It got the job done and didn’t take too long!
@@tombexy can't argue with success.
Take half the tires and wheels off so you can get better traction!!!!
all that weight, goes to show ya how strong that snow/ice really is. JD baby
It packs hard this time of year! Also shows how strong that blade is 80,000 lbs slamming it into a solid wall of snow! A good Canadian made product!
I feel like all the snow in the whole area ended up in that road.
Pretty much! its a North/South road and our winds are normally from the west!
Tires like that and still wow
Woo love this job would be awesome but I'll stick to ghost hunting for now lol love it
Ha Yeah you can keep you job and I'll keep mine!
If you have a huge farm I'd figure you'd invest in a huge front mounted snowblower with PTO power pack to clear the roads. Plows are for poor people like me. 😆
Have you ever got stuck?
Nope! you can walk these tractor out of most situations.
Articulating tractors for the win! I run 2 3788 2+2's and they are incredibly difficult to get stuck!
has any farmer ever not been stuck? that tractor is nearly unstoppable. some folks don't have the money for a v blade, a blower, tracks, or any of that happy stuff. they just go and get it done. it's in our DNA. God bless, farmer
Better to let them spin than to tear shit up with chains.
Thats what I've been saying! people don't realize how hard tire chains are on stuff!
If that road was built up two or rhree feet the snow would blow right over it and you would have to play(work) elsewhere
Why are you using your silage blade. Wrong!😮
Has more than enough power…just needs. V shaped plow
imagine chains on all eights tires, that would help.
where is this need a cat d8
It's going to take a month of sundays to move that snow....
Never understood the point of open differentials on anything 4 wheel drive ! If you had lockers you might have pushed right through.
same I've never understood why Torsen differentials haven't been used more they seem like a pretty simple and effective design
Hi everyone from northwest Missouri would snow chains ⛓️ with ice cleats help push all that snow ❄️ better
Put some chains on the outside tires
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cut through with a big V blade then make more passes after on each side. Like the Norwegians do
It's pretty rare we have to deal with these conditions! Just took a couple hours to do a 1/2 mile of that!
@@tombexy Nice plow but I have seen versions that are V able if necessary, adds lots of flexibility. Really nice tractor though I applaud you
Cool video.. TERRIBLE music. Felt like I was in an elevator or something
Dual tires are horrible in snow or mud! Too low of pounds per square inch.
Still better than tracks in those conditions!
I don't know our loader with chains and 12 foot blade would play with that
People Don't realize how hard those snow drifts can be!
Ok ok that outdoes my john deere 318.
Where this at
Lloydminster AB
Snow blower would be a better solution, no ridges to drift closed later...
A more curved blade would work better because it would roll the snow
There's always something better, most the time though you got to make what you have work!
@@tombexy yep I agree use what you have and be happy.
Lol he got stuck behind that lil wall deere isn't what it uses to be
That little wall of snow was an 7' hard packed drift! I could nearly drive on top of those drifts!
Put a v plow on it then u have something to push snow
Need tracks,not wheels to push snow!
That, or get a rotary snow blower!
I think tracks would spin out on the ice easier than tires!
I would opt for more weight and tire chains over tracks for blading snow any day.
i will kick in a dozen eggs towards a microphone for the exhaust area
Ha well if people are going to pay for it I suppose I must do it!
Its ashame such a beautiful piece of equipment but no operator skills.
Without music. Let's here the pig snort.
Савелькин всё равно лучше почистит.
Y don't they get a big snow blower they have them......
Lock your diffs up
Get it in a taller gear and take a run at it.
Most people are not afraid of "no snow." Using a "double negative is improper grammar, unless of course, you meant to use it to emphasize your point.
its a play on the ghost busters theme song
Мощь.
YOU NEED A V PLOW..
Fail lol half the power with chains would have pushd more
ТАМ НУЖЕН ПРОСТО К701 С ЛОПАТОЙ
Не с лопатой,а с клином бабочкой
Put some chains on it and you wouldnt even notice that snow
Needs v plow.
It would be nice to hear the tractor instead of that dumb music.