OMGosh. You just changed my life!!! I have a slew of hooks, my own plus both of my grandmothers. Boye, Susan Bates, HERO and a few with no name at all. Just switched from a Boye to a Susan……..what a difference. Much smoother for me so it speeded me up!! I’m working your Celtic Mandala throw so I can use a little speed as I’m not a very fast crocheter. Thank you Bonnie. Love your videos!!!!!
I watched a second time, and felt thst I learned a lot … Now I know exactly why I should never mix hooks in a single project.. The hook really doe make a difference. And.. I was pleased to see that my two favorites…the SB (Soft), and the Clover…were so close in gauge. Thanks, again, for a fun…and informative…video.
Wow...I figured the comfort & ease of using the different hooks would be different but I am very surprised about the gauge being different. Thanks for sharing this with us! 🧶
So interesting!! I knew you would be most comfortable with the Susan Bates hooks, but even so I thought the tapered hook might go more quickly. Tapered hooks are my preference, although more because of comfort than speed. I only own one Susan Bates hook, purchased very early on, but it never felt comfortable to me. Sometimes I even feel a little squirrelly watching you use Susan Bates hooks because I remember how they feel in my hand! Then again, I use more of a pen hold for my hook, and that probably makes a difference, too. Anyway, thank you for this experiment - very enjoyable to watch. It will make a very good hook tutorial for new crocheters who have questions about the different hook styles. What about wood vs aluminum? I have an idea how that might turn out, but it might just surprise me, too.
Thanks for that suggestion Julie! I know that there's a big difference between these materials concerning crochet hooks. I've yet to find a wooden hook that I like, and I have owned a few. I know that I'm not a fan of plastic hooks or knitting needles, but love wooden knitting needles. I also agree that the method used to hold the hook will make a big difference too!
Fun video. Made me chuckle watching your struggle with Boye hook. I can’t use the Susan Bates, slow and splits the yarn for me. Of course, I learned on a Boye hook 50 years ago!😂
I always thought there was something wrong with me because I couldn’t use the Boyd crochet hook. I have used the Bates hook from day one, and have done great with it. I am so happy to see your video! Thank you so much!!
Same here Pat. I can use the others, but it kind of sucks a bit of the joy out of the journey. The Boye hooks are over marketed here in the states, if you ask me. I always tell folks to hunt for the good Susan Bates hooks! Better design all the way around - and no one is paying me to say this. Just the way I see the world!
I learned to crochet with the boye hook, mostly the only one to have. Then i got the armour hooks. When i changed back to the boye i had split yarn a lot. Before using the armour hooks i didn't have that problem. In all fairness, i think your using the Susan Bates normally played a part in how the yarn responded and your timing. A hook becomes a part of you. You pointed out some good things to note in a hook.
Thank you for this great demonstration! I've tried Susan Bates, Boye, Furls, and Clover Amour, and the Clovers are by far my favorites! They cut through my yarn so smoothly and easily that I can fly with these hooks! 🤩 My only wish is that they were a bit longer because I have bigger hands, and the end pokes the edge of my hand and start to hurt if I crochet too long in one sitting. I bought a Furls hook to try because of their length, but I felt there was too much distance between where you hold the hook and the crochet head, which didn't work for me as I use my fingers near the crochet head for yarn guidance. Always grateful for options though! Fun to try new things! 👍
Thanks for the insights Tanna. The Furls are beautiful, but without that flat spot for my thumb (that keeps the hook at the right angle) I can't do a thing with them. So glad there are many in the market so we can find what works best for us!
I definitely use the Susan Bates hooks. I when I first learned to chrochet i used the boye hooks but they caused the yarn to split and the yarn didn't slide across the hook. I also noticed on the boye hooks that they chipped on the head of the hook. The Susan Bates ROCK.
Thank you! Most of my designs are on my channel. If you go to my homepage and select “playlists”, you can find what you are looking for in the categories. I am wearing the Arrow Asymmetrical Scarf/shawl in this video.😊
Nice to see someone discuss this. I’ve changed the type of hook I use most often as I’ve crocheted more and learned more. Definitely agree that different types and brands affect my gauge. Also that different styles work better with certain yarns. I have an interchangeable set much like yours and I like them ok and carry them when I travel. 🧶💕🧶 In general I’m faster with my Clover Amores.
Thank you! This is the Arrow Asymmetrical Scarf and can be made with any size or type of yarn and to any size of your choice. www.lovecrafts.com/en-us/p/arrow-asymmetrical-scarf-crochet-pattern-by-bonnie-barker
I am so grateful I watched this video. Thank you for doing it. As someone who still felt a beginner whilst trying crochet I changed to some susan bates hooks and it transformed my crochet. It looks neater and my tension is better. I also have a bit more faith in my ability although I'm still not intermediate by any means. Thanks again
Glad this was helpful Donna! I’m all about encouraging confident beginners to learn intermediate stitches and patterns sooner than they think. Mistakes are allowed since that’s the best way to learn!😊❤️
Bonnie, thank you for this video! I know it wasn't "scientific", but it was "good enough" to see how one crocheter, you, manages the four diverse hook styles. I love Susan Bates hooks, but I have switched to Clover because, well, I am a lot older than you, and I have found the handle to be a lot more comfy. The different styles of hook "heads" is great to see up close: in knitting, a sharper needles prevents splitting, so I am thinking that if I were going to crochet with Simply Soft yarn that has a tendency to split on me, I'd be better off using a Susan Bates hook for that project. I think that I will purchase a Susan Bates with the soft handle to see how I like it.
the yarn type you're using makes a big difference too. I started making something with 100% bamboo and tried the 4 types of hooks i usually go for , however, I had a set that I hated using so i rarely thought of it... but that set was the easiest and most comfortable to use with the slippery bamboo
One of the nice thungs about both styles of hooks is that they are economical . So.. I. Reach for SB, Clover and Tulip hooks, I own four Furls, Odysseys….which are beautiful…but I seldom use thr,..Probably because I have very small hands. Thanks, Bonnie , for a fun…and informative video.❤
This video was very helpful to me. I have both susan Bates and Boyd's. I am going to try the speed test for myself. Do realize for myself, I catch up on the thread most with the Boydes. Thank you.
This video is actually an eye opener! I knew there would be a slight difference in gage depending on what brand needle you use, because of the way it’s made, but I did not realize, even though you are using the same size, that would make a difference! I guess I better be careful to make sure I stay with the same brand of hook I started with! This is very helpful information to know! Thanks Bonnie!! ❤️
Watching for the second time…Itvwas fun..I’m a slow crocheter..and knitter…Don’t really care about speed.. But…I do enjoy talking about crochet hooks, and knitting needles. Inthunkmit’s interesting tomsee what different people like. ❤
Great video! Thanks so much! I am finding lately that I really like the Susan Bates and I too like the soft handles. I bought a pack of grips and put them on the good, it's much better!
I agree with your findings. As for me, I usually use SB hooks. But with certain yarns I have to use B. And it takes a while getting used to the different ways of inserting & twisting the yarn for a smoother & faster stitch. Thank you for your review.
Clovers, and Tulips…are really good hooks. I also love my regular Susan Bares hooks, as well as the ones with a handle..❤ Bates hooks…I learned to crichet on the regular ones…
I am used to the Clover Amour but I also have a set of Susan Bates. Because I use the Clover most often, I have noticed I'm slower with the Susan Bates. I also started out with the Boyes hooks and then switched to the Clover. The gauge is different. I enjoyed this video very much. Jan
ERROR! Starting at 21 minutes into this video, you refer to the hook measurement given in millimeters as the circumference of the hook. You correctly provide the definition of circumference. However, the hook measurement is the DIAMETER of the hook, not the circumference. For years I have paid no attention to that millimeter number. Recently, I was going through my collection of hooks and came upon one that had no size designation on it. My mechanical engineering son suggested that I use his DIGITAL CALIPER to measure the hook. Out of curiosity I also measured my other hooks (a mix of metal/plastic and tapered/in-line) to determine which ones were accurate. This exercise was enlightening. Now I know the actual measurements of my hooks, what a digital caliper looks like, and how a digital caliper works!
This was incredibly informative! Thank you for doing this. I also love Susan Bates hooks, but I discovered plastic hooks at Hobby Lobby that are Yarnology. I will have to compare Bates to those at home, now that I know how.
@@BonnieBayCrochet I had such pain in my wrist and fingers when I used the metal hooks,my husband bought me the whole set for christmas several years ago ,pain is gone since I used these hooks. One question what Is a good 50/50 cotton&Acrylic blend yarn?
@@georgiabutka5096 well, mine should arrive via Amazon tomorrow and I'll be sure to make another video in the future evaluating this. I even like the color of the one I ordered! As far as cotton blends, the Cotton Fair yarn (at most stores) is very nice. I use this for scarves a lot. There are many others I'm sure, but my brain is slow at the moment!
Mine too now, and I have always been a Bates hooker! Love the ease of an inline hook, but wanted the comfort grip without the length of the Susan Bates "soft handle" hooks, they're too long for me and I constantly bump the end on ym desk! LOL Tried the Tulip Etimo after reading a review that said they are more like an inlone hook than the Clover hooks, and I love the Etimos, they are great for the type of crochet that I do!
@@BonnieBayCrochet in England we have charity shops you might call them secondhand shops or Frith shops you mite get them there or antiques shop I got on of mine from there
I think hook and yarn makes a difference. If you're a seasoned crocheted, you'll naturally will CROCHET faster/easier w the hook you normally use. The Susan bates style I always got it caught in the yarn. When I actually bit the bullet and bought the clover hooks I was amazed at how easily the hook would glide through the yarn like butter! Also, the way you hold your hook and how you use your fingers w the hooks makes a difference. Bonnie talked about the one not having a thumb rest. But for ppl who use their fingers to roll the hook the larger rounded handle (like the furrles style) would work well for hand fatigue. I think this would really be helpful for an advanced beginner, one who has the basic sts and tension down. This way maybe they haven't ingrained a certain G style hook into their muscle memory.
Another interesting and very Informative video. When I first started crocheting(30+yrs ago), I used Boyes. Fast forward, to within the last 3 yrs, I switched to Bates. And then I made to leap to Clover. I'll have to say, even though Clovers can be a bit pricey, they are now my hook of choice. Sometimes I just like to change it up, and I'll use Bates for a while. Because Bates is my very close second choice. However, i don't like that all of their larger hooks are plastic.🙄 Thank you for this amazing video and hope you have a good day. ☮💜🧶
As soon as you tested I knew Susan Bates would be fastest 😄 you definitely get used to your favourites. My favourite is the Clover Soft Touch, although people knock points off because they are all monotone in colour. Seriously smooth hooks though. Our widest availability in the UK is for the tapered hooks, as long as you move the yarn over the shaft of the hook and don't stay on the narrow part, the gauge is usually OK - between those styles at least!
Yes, the tapered are everywhere here in the US, and the in-line more difficult to find. I honestly never understood that, but perhaps is a marketing fail? Not sure.
Great topic. I generally work with SBates, but when it comes to a classic 3DC cluster granny square, I blow through with Boyle where the SBates slow me down. Very interesting!! I've always thought it was weird that I'm so hook particular depending on project. Thank you. That was awesome!
Thanks for doing the comparison for us. I was about surprised how much difference there was between the Boys and Susan Bates hooks. I tend to use my clover most of the time
When I first started crocheting I was using the Boyd’s hook. As I progressed in m6 crocheting I decided to try a different type of hook and chose the Susan Bates. For me, it was a marked difference in speed and also how even my stitches were turning out. I found that the Boyd style hook was just too hookie (for a better word) and would slow my stitching down because it would get caught up in the yarn. So, for me, I stayed with the Susan Bates which is my favorite and of course I check my gauge and change hook size whenever I crochet fitted items and I’m not too particular when making none fitted items. Thank you for this video it was quite interesting to see the difference. Of course, I also believe that whatever hook you are use to, it will work for you.
So many great observations of the detailed differences of these hooks. Thank you!! I use a knife grip too so I need a thumb rest. Those large barrel shaped handles often work well with the pencil grip or for those who rotate their hook as they crochet or who find it crampy or painful to hold skinny hooks. I use different shaped hook heads mostly depending on the tightness of the twist or structure of the yarn. I also sometimes change to a more grippy wood hook with slippery yarn to slow it down. My current go-to hooks are Clover Amour that seem to be a hybrid of Bates & Boye with a comfortable grip for my arthritic thumbs & wrists. BTW I think the mm measurement refers to diameter of the shaft.
I was taught at six years old on a 5.5 Boye hook so i am more comfortable with the tapered varieties. However, I noticed that some yarn works better on a Bates (Carom Simply Soft) so I use both styles of hook and switch up when the yarn misbehaves.
I enjoyed this video very much. I have the same trouble, if you want to call it that with the boye that you did. I also use Susan Bates and they work best for me. Its my favorite so far. I haven't tried the Clover but I think I will soon and see how I like that one. I agree its a personal thing, different hooks work better for different people.. Thanks for making this video.
My pleasure Helen! And yes, you can call it "trouble"! My brain was working so hard to work with the hooks that are different from what my muscle memory is set to.
I have used many styles of hooks. I prefer Susan bates for most projects, I use the boye books when I'm crouching tight stitches the pointed end and to help with that, if I'm doing treble stitches I need the Susan bates.
Thank you Bonnie for the comparison. I started out with Boye hooks and used to be very fast with them. A few years ago I needed a new hook because I couldn't find one (of many) in the size I needed that I own. I ended up buying a set of Susan Bates. I couldn't get over the difference! It was so much easier and more comfortable to use and I became even faster. A few months ago I needed a hook and I couldn't find my Bates hook so I tried using a Boye hook. I just couldn't do it. It was completely uncomfortable and I felt like a newbie. I have been crocheting for over 40 years.
Ha ha! That's how I lost a crochet speed competition (that I had won the previous year). Just give me a Boye hook and I'm about as fast as molasses....in the winter time.
Hi Bonnie my name is Lorraine I live in Albany New York I love your tutorial you did about the hooks today and it makes a lot of sense the reason why some of my stuff don't come out the way I think it should come out it's because I never paid attention to the difference in the sizes of the hook I get the size that the pattern calls for and I crochet my product now I will pay more attention to maybe I should look for another hook of the same size thank you makes a lot of sense to me thank you God bless
Thanks for the comparison! I prefer Susan Bates and close second is Clover. The type of yarn is a major variable in which I use. I bought 2 sets (to get all sizes) of Prym hooks, but they are plastic and don't glide as easily on acrylic and cotton yarns, although I haven't tried on animal fibers. Maybe plastic hooks could be in the review. I also have London Kaye with twisted handle.
hi bonny,,i am anxiously wating for your video about the white cottn top you have promissed it will be released by the end of may early june, thank you for evry effort you make in doing these videos, i am a fan in your wark thanks again
Not any more than any other hook. Sometimes that’s more of a yarn issue more than a hook issue in my personal opinion. The pointier hook allows me more speed and consistency.
Thank you for this comparison. I prefer Susan Bates for the same reasons. I'm trying the new ones with soft handles. Having a pencil grip, will have to hold in the handle and not the thumb rest. Most of the ergonomic ones are not so ergonomic for me because the handle hits my hand.
Bonnie have you used the furls odyssey? I seem to be able to crochet faster and without pain. It is ergonomic but it also has weight to it. It seems to help me with my crocheting movements.
@@BonnieBayCrochet Bonnie… The Odyssey really is a good hook…even for my small hand. The weight, and balance are good, and the nick level plated hook glides through the yarn.
Clover is usually my go to hook, but the Boye hooks differ by a quarter of a millimeter. At least my set does. Such as the I hook. All my other ones are 5.5 mm. But the Boye I hook is 5.25 mm. 🧐 Ha! And as I was writing this comment, you just said that. LOL 😎
I actually started out using a Susan Bates but I had so much trouble with it because it's too wide and flat so it was hard to get it in the stitches. The boye hook is better for me and I've used them for years but I have found that over the years I have gotten better and I've tried different hooks. I have a clover and even one from dollar tree and they are both ok. I find that like someone else said it depends on the yarn I'm using. It really looks l Iike you use Susan Bates more so you are more used to using that hook.
Hi Bonnie! I use the same Susan Bates Hooks with the black handles as you. I started with Boye Hooks and will still use a tapered hook but definitely have my favorite hooks!!! I too have the same interchangeable hook set and im horrible with it. My gauge is completely, COMPLETELY wrong! I find that the shaft is way too large compared to the head or hook! I am going to do the speed test! You never know, maybe I crochet faster with a different hook🤷♀️ I feel that I will always reach for my black handle Susan Bates over any other hook! And if don't have them then any other inline hook will do. I loved this video! Thanks Bonnie🧶💜
I tried the bamboo or wood, whatever it was, It slowed me down big time. Also, I tried crocheting lie a knife, but I can't. I know it seems faster, but I can't do it. I hold mine like a pencil. I can't go as fast as you, but it is more comfortable like me. I love Susan bates inline.
Very interesting. I myself have never liked using Boye hooks. My hands seem to work much harder with them,BTW, I have No hand issues. I have all Susan Bates hooks.I like the shorter throats on them. My problem has ALWAYS been I never get a gauge right therefor I never make clothing. My Afghans are not up to snuff either. Lol. I either get the length right and the width wrong OR visa versa. TFS
Interesting Kathie. You may try making a small swatch and switching to the hook that attains that for you (and I bet it will be different than the one recommended in the pattern, which is ok). You may also want to work on your yarn hold if your gauge is inconsistent within your projects (if it varies in size with a consistent hook).
I have similar problem with the Boyd hooks it splits the yarn, picks up extra yarn, splits the yarn when you through the next stitch, messes up stitches when working on them. I like Susan Bates better
Good video, I'm not sure why I can only use Furls. I've tried tons of others when I first started Crocheting but for me furls work best.. go figure🤷🏾♀️
I find it totally depends on the yarn as to which type of hook I use including the material (aluminum, steel, wood or plastic). I too have a set of those interchangeable hooks and mine go up size K. Again, I find like clothes and shoes these days one style or material does not work the same on all yarns!
I discovered something a few days ago. I am no fan of Boye hooks. Though, i started with them, there was just 'something'. Fast forward a few years to last week (having settled in fairly short order on Susn Bates, and Furls wood hooks as my 'go to hooks) Couldn't find my 5.5 SB, so I dug out the Boye hook, it was misery and like I was 'wrestling' every dang stitch, could NOT fall into a rhythm no matter how much I tried. I have a magnifying lamp I use at night and had set down the hook. (side note I am left handed) what I noticed, the 'hook' of the Boye is ever so slightly 'offset' in my hook, there is a small 'tilt' towards the end of the hook, trailing to the side. It floored me, and frankly made some sense why I struggle (possibly) Maybe they are geared for the much larger population of right handed........... Dunno, just my theory for now
That's a great point! Yes, there are many variables in this "equation!" I personally have made a trip to the craft store when I couldn't find the size I need in the Susan Bates hooks. I too have used a different brand and became totally flustered by it!
@@BonnieBayCrochet Glad to know I am not alone (though, you are a 'righty' if I remember correctly ;) ) I thought about posting this on one of the FB crochet groups I am part of, but forgot until I watched this video. There are many 'fans' of Boye and I couldn't wrap my brain around it (because of my struggles) Now I think I understand more, depends on technique of the crocheter and maybe the 'handedness'.
TY, Bonnie- great video! I just wanted to add a different angle to the hook subject! As an oldie in Oz I don’t see B & SB hooks as much. Returning to crochet during the pandemic in 2020 I plumped for Clover Amour then deciding to stick to “handles”so fingers stayed warmer also with Tulip Etimos. I find Tulips are so well balanced & smooth I find they crochet on their own! But most of all the fact that they have a muted gold or red colour option of metal shaft & hook they don’t shine back at troubled old cataract eyes (my R eye is blind now)..I use a head torch (from camping/tent shops) for more light & it has an option for a yellowish bulb or dimmable white bulb so I can see my work better 🙂 - & 👁❤️ your crochet cabling patterns 👍🙂🧶🦜🦘
Thanks for your suggestions Julia! I just ordered a red Tulip Etimo (size I/9/5.50 mm) hook to try. Sorry to hear of the deterioration of your sight, but glad it isn't stopping you for doing what you love!
My problem ISN'T the hook. I NEED to change how I hold it! I am very bad to change how I hold it half way through the stitch. I start with "holding a pencil" to "holding a shovel". I'm just too stubborn after 60 years to learn better, I guess... 🤦♀️
Understood, but they can often times be related. I was most surprised by the different gauges by different brands of the same size. So much to consider when selecting a hook.
@@BonnieBayCrochet The whole experiment was fun.. I lobe hearing about different hooks, and why they are.,,or not…preferred. My visual impairment has finally begun to dicta some of my choices. I find myself reaching for my Clivers, and my Susan Bates Softs… I also have four Odysseys….color coded by myself… They are a little large for my child sized hands… Thanks for a rally goid video… on on if my favorite subjects………crocht hooks.
That’s ok. I did make it clear that this was my opinion and I work best with Susan Bates, but hopefully demonstrated some significant differences in the designs.
OMGosh. You just changed my life!!! I have a slew of hooks, my own plus both of my grandmothers. Boye, Susan Bates, HERO and a few with no name at all. Just switched from a Boye to a Susan……..what a difference. Much smoother for me so it speeded me up!! I’m working your Celtic Mandala throw so I can use a little speed as I’m not a very fast crocheter. Thank you Bonnie. Love your videos!!!!!
Great topic, great music!
I switch between Clover & Susan Bates, so it’s reassuring to know that their gauges are similar.
Yes, I never realized that until this test.
I watched a second time, and felt thst I learned a lot … Now I know exactly why I should never mix hooks in a single project.. The hook really doe make a difference.
And.. I was pleased to see that my two favorites…the SB (Soft), and the Clover…were so close in gauge. Thanks, again, for a fun…and informative…video.
Thank you so much for this video. Now I understand why my end product is so different when I use different brand hooks. This was very interesting.
Wow...I figured the comfort & ease of using the different hooks would be different but I am very surprised about the gauge being different. Thanks for sharing this with us! 🧶
So interesting!! I knew you would be most comfortable with the Susan Bates hooks, but even so I thought the tapered hook might go more quickly. Tapered hooks are my preference, although more because of comfort than speed. I only own one Susan Bates hook, purchased very early on, but it never felt comfortable to me. Sometimes I even feel a little squirrelly watching you use Susan Bates hooks because I remember how they feel in my hand! Then again, I use more of a pen hold for my hook, and that probably makes a difference, too.
Anyway, thank you for this experiment - very enjoyable to watch. It will make a very good hook tutorial for new crocheters who have questions about the different hook styles.
What about wood vs aluminum? I have an idea how that might turn out, but it might just surprise me, too.
Thanks for that suggestion Julie! I know that there's a big difference between these materials concerning crochet hooks. I've yet to find a wooden hook that I like, and I have owned a few. I know that I'm not a fan of plastic hooks or knitting needles, but love wooden knitting needles. I also agree that the method used to hold the hook will make a big difference too!
Fun video. Made me chuckle watching your struggle with Boye hook. I can’t use the Susan Bates, slow and splits the yarn for me. Of course, I learned on a Boye hook 50 years ago!😂
Yes Ramona, I agree that what we start with has a big impact on what we work with best!
I always thought there was something wrong with me because I couldn’t use the Boyd crochet hook. I have used the Bates hook from day one, and have done great with it. I am so happy to see your video! Thank you so much!!
Same here Pat. I can use the others, but it kind of sucks a bit of the joy out of the journey. The Boye hooks are over marketed here in the states, if you ask me. I always tell folks to hunt for the good Susan Bates hooks! Better design all the way around - and no one is paying me to say this. Just the way I see the world!
That second one looks like me. I never thought it was the hook causing trouble. I thought it was me messing up. Thanks for the info.
I learned to crochet with the boye hook, mostly the only one to have. Then i got the armour hooks. When i changed back to the boye i had split yarn a lot. Before using the armour hooks i didn't have that problem. In all fairness, i think your using the Susan Bates normally played a part in how the yarn responded and your timing. A hook becomes a part of you. You pointed out some good things to note in a hook.
Thank you for this great demonstration! I've tried Susan Bates, Boye, Furls, and Clover Amour, and the Clovers are by far my favorites! They cut through my yarn so smoothly and easily that I can fly with these hooks! 🤩 My only wish is that they were a bit longer because I have bigger hands, and the end pokes the edge of my hand and start to hurt if I crochet too long in one sitting. I bought a Furls hook to try because of their length, but I felt there was too much distance between where you hold the hook and the crochet head, which didn't work for me as I use my fingers near the crochet head for yarn guidance. Always grateful for options though! Fun to try new things! 👍
Thanks for the insights Tanna. The Furls are beautiful, but without that flat spot for my thumb (that keeps the hook at the right angle) I can't do a thing with them. So glad there are many in the market so we can find what works best for us!
I definitely use the Susan Bates hooks.
I when I first learned to chrochet i
used the boye
hooks but they caused the yarn to split and the yarn didn't slide across the hook.
I also noticed on the boye hooks that they chipped on the head of the hook. The Susan Bates ROCK.
I'm spoiled I have a set of ADDI love them great for 77 yrs.old hands
@@raeeasterday1366 That's great! The goal is ultimately to find what you love, right?
Yes they do Joanie!! And I have tried many more expensive hooks over the years but always return to my tried and true set!
Yes I wanted to say that your scarves and cowls are so good. Please share the designs with us. Thank you. ❤️
Thank you! Most of my designs are on my channel. If you go to my homepage and select “playlists”, you can find what you are looking for in the categories. I am wearing the Arrow Asymmetrical Scarf/shawl in this video.😊
Nice to see someone discuss this. I’ve changed the type of hook I use most often as I’ve crocheted more and learned more. Definitely agree that different types and brands affect my gauge. Also that different styles work better with certain yarns. I have an interchangeable set much like yours and I like them ok and carry them when I travel. 🧶💕🧶
In general I’m faster with my Clover Amores.
Glad you liked this evaluation Evelyn! I'm always learning new things about this craft!
Watched agsin…because it was fun, and informative…and I love videos featuring hooks, or knitting needles.
Love your cowl! Is there a pattern? Great review on hooks, thank you
Thank you! This is the Arrow Asymmetrical Scarf and can be made with any size or type of yarn and to any size of your choice. www.lovecrafts.com/en-us/p/arrow-asymmetrical-scarf-crochet-pattern-by-bonnie-barker
Hi Bonnie I can’t use the all steel hooks. My favourites are clover amour and tulip hooks.
Cool Karen! I was pleasantly surprised when trying the Clover hook again. Glad you found what you like.
I am so grateful I watched this video. Thank you for doing it. As someone who still felt a beginner whilst trying crochet I changed to some susan bates hooks and it transformed my crochet. It looks neater and my tension is better. I also have a bit more faith in my ability although I'm still not intermediate by any means. Thanks again
Glad this was helpful Donna! I’m all about encouraging confident beginners to learn intermediate stitches and patterns sooner than they think. Mistakes are allowed since that’s the best way to learn!😊❤️
Bonnie, thank you for this video! I know it wasn't "scientific", but it was "good enough" to see how one crocheter, you, manages the four diverse hook styles. I love Susan Bates hooks, but I have switched to Clover because, well, I am a lot older than you, and I have found the handle to be a lot more comfy. The different styles of hook "heads" is great to see up close: in knitting, a sharper needles prevents splitting, so I am thinking that if I were going to crochet with Simply Soft yarn that has a tendency to split on me, I'd be better off using a Susan Bates hook for that project. I think that I will purchase a Susan Bates with the soft handle to see how I like it.
Thanks Poka Gal!
Thanks Bonnie! So much good info
the yarn type you're using makes a big difference too. I started making something with 100% bamboo and tried the 4 types of hooks i usually go for , however, I had a set that I hated using so i rarely thought of it... but that set was the easiest and most comfortable to use with the slippery bamboo
Yes indeed! There are many more variables than meet the eye, or hook!😊
Please, can you tell me what hook you used? Thank you, Claudia
@@garymay1851 in the order they appear: Susan Bates, Boye, Clover, and a multi-hook interchangeable set.
One of the nice thungs about both styles of hooks is that they are economical . So.. I. Reach for SB, Clover and Tulip hooks, I own four Furls, Odysseys….which are beautiful…but I seldom use thr,..Probably because I have very small hands.
Thanks, Bonnie , for a fun…and informative video.❤
Thanks. New to crochet. Very interesting and informative. I learn better watching than reading so super helpful..
This video was very helpful to me. I have both susan Bates and Boyd's. I am going to try the speed test for myself. Do realize for myself, I catch up on the thread most with the Boydes. Thank you.
Insightful and what an interesting topic! Great initiative:) I enjoyed this:D
Thank you so much for this video! I'm off to try my own swatches now! Great info!💖🧶
This video is actually an eye opener! I knew there would be a slight difference in gage depending on what brand needle you use, because of the way it’s made, but I did not realize, even though you are using the same size, that would make a difference! I guess I better be careful to make sure I stay with the same brand of hook I started with! This is very helpful information to know! Thanks Bonnie!! ❤️
Watching for the second time…Itvwas fun..I’m a slow crocheter..and knitter…Don’t really care about speed.. But…I do enjoy talking about crochet hooks, and knitting needles. Inthunkmit’s interesting tomsee what different people like. ❤
Great video! Thanks so much! I am finding lately that I really like the Susan Bates and I too like the soft handles. I bought a pack of grips and put them on the good, it's much better!
Welcome to the Susan Bates club Denise! Try as I may, I can't do much with a tapered hook. I've got to have the in-line design.
Great video. Thanks. I also prefer Bates hands down
I agree with your findings. As for me, I usually use SB hooks. But with certain yarns I have to use B. And it takes a while getting used to the different ways of inserting & twisting the yarn for a smoother & faster stitch.
Thank you for your review.
Thank you for the hook review very interesting and helpful. Thank you for sharing 😊
Clovers, and Tulips…are really good hooks. I also love my regular Susan Bares hooks, as well as the ones with a handle..❤ Bates hooks…I learned to crichet on the regular ones…
I am used to the Clover Amour but I also have a set of Susan Bates. Because I use the Clover most often, I have noticed I'm slower with the Susan Bates. I also started out with the Boyes hooks and then switched to the Clover. The gauge is different. I enjoyed this video very much. Jan
Thank you Bonnie on the interesting vlog on the hooks 🙏🏻
ERROR! Starting at 21 minutes into this video, you refer to the hook measurement given in millimeters as the circumference of the hook. You correctly provide the definition of circumference. However, the hook measurement is the DIAMETER of the hook, not the circumference. For years I have paid no attention to that millimeter number. Recently, I was going through my collection of hooks and came upon one that had no size designation on it. My mechanical engineering son suggested that I use his DIGITAL CALIPER to measure the hook. Out of curiosity I also measured my other hooks (a mix of metal/plastic and tapered/in-line) to determine which ones were accurate. This exercise was enlightening. Now I know the actual measurements of my hooks, what a digital caliper looks like, and how a digital caliper works!
This was incredibly informative! Thank you for doing this. I also love Susan Bates hooks, but I discovered plastic hooks at Hobby Lobby that are Yarnology. I will have to compare Bates to those at home, now that I know how.
Those are also nice hooks!
Etimo Tulip hooks are my favorite !
I just ordered one of these last night to give it a try Georgia! 😊❤️
@@BonnieBayCrochet I had such pain in my wrist and fingers when I used the metal hooks,my husband bought me the whole set for christmas several years ago ,pain is gone since I used these hooks. One question what Is a good 50/50 cotton&Acrylic blend yarn?
@@georgiabutka5096 well, mine should arrive via Amazon tomorrow and I'll be sure to make another video in the future evaluating this. I even like the color of the one I ordered! As far as cotton blends, the Cotton Fair yarn (at most stores) is very nice. I use this for scarves a lot. There are many others I'm sure, but my brain is slow at the moment!
Mine too now, and I have always been a Bates hooker! Love the ease of an inline hook, but wanted the comfort grip without the length of the Susan Bates "soft handle" hooks, they're too long for me and I constantly bump the end on ym desk! LOL Tried the Tulip Etimo after reading a review that said they are more like an inlone hook than the Clover hooks, and I love the Etimos, they are great for the type of crochet that I do!
@@ymw6607 I just ordered one of these to try! May have to do a followup video soon!
Have you ever tried bone ones I have some and there good to use they are old
I remember seeing those when I was a kid, and had one. Haven't seen them since then.
@@BonnieBayCrochet in England we have charity shops you might call them secondhand shops or Frith shops you mite get them there or antiques shop I got on of mine from there
@@yvonnejohnson772 yes, I visit shops like this often! Thanks!😊❤️
I think hook and yarn makes a difference. If you're a seasoned crocheted, you'll naturally will CROCHET faster/easier w the hook you normally use. The Susan bates style I always got it caught in the yarn. When I actually bit the bullet and bought the clover hooks I was amazed at how easily the hook would glide through the yarn like butter! Also, the way you hold your hook and how you use your fingers w the hooks makes a difference. Bonnie talked about the one not having a thumb rest. But for ppl who use their fingers to roll the hook the larger rounded handle (like the furrles style) would work well for hand fatigue.
I think this would really be helpful for an advanced beginner, one who has the basic sts and tension down. This way maybe they haven't ingrained a certain G style hook into their muscle memory.
Another interesting and very Informative video. When I first started crocheting(30+yrs ago), I used Boyes. Fast forward, to within the last 3 yrs, I switched to Bates. And then I made to leap to Clover. I'll have to say, even though Clovers can be a bit pricey, they are now my hook of choice. Sometimes I just like to change it up, and I'll use Bates for a while. Because Bates is my very close second choice. However, i don't like that all of their larger hooks are plastic.🙄 Thank you for this amazing video and hope you have a good day. ☮💜🧶
They do have aluminum hooks with bamboo handles for the larger Susan Bates hooks but they are not easy to find these days.
As soon as you tested I knew Susan Bates would be fastest 😄 you definitely get used to your favourites. My favourite is the Clover Soft Touch, although people knock points off because they are all monotone in colour. Seriously smooth hooks though. Our widest availability in the UK is for the tapered hooks, as long as you move the yarn over the shaft of the hook and don't stay on the narrow part, the gauge is usually OK - between those styles at least!
Yes, the tapered are everywhere here in the US, and the in-line more difficult to find. I honestly never understood that, but perhaps is a marketing fail? Not sure.
Thank you for sharing!!
Great topic. I generally work with SBates, but when it comes to a classic 3DC cluster granny square, I blow through with Boyle where the SBates slow me down. Very interesting!! I've always thought it was weird that I'm so hook particular depending on project. Thank you. That was awesome!
Thanks for doing the comparison for us. I was about surprised how much difference there was between the Boys and Susan Bates hooks. I tend to use my clover most of the time
When I first started crocheting I was using the Boyd’s hook. As I progressed in m6 crocheting I decided to try a different type of hook and chose the Susan Bates. For me, it was a marked difference in speed and also how even my stitches were turning out. I found that the Boyd style hook was just too hookie (for a better word) and would slow my stitching down because it would get caught up in the yarn. So, for me, I stayed with the Susan Bates which is my favorite and of course I check my gauge and change hook size whenever I crochet fitted items and I’m not too particular when making none fitted items. Thank you for this video it was quite interesting to see the difference. Of course, I also believe that whatever hook you are use to, it will work for you.
So many great observations of the detailed differences of these hooks. Thank you!! I use a knife grip too so I need a thumb rest. Those large barrel shaped handles often work well with the pencil grip or for those who rotate their hook as they crochet or who find it crampy or painful to hold skinny hooks. I use different shaped hook heads mostly depending on the tightness of the twist or structure of the yarn. I also sometimes change to a more grippy wood hook with slippery yarn to slow it down. My current go-to hooks are Clover Amour that seem to be a hybrid of Bates & Boye with a comfortable grip for my arthritic thumbs & wrists. BTW I think the mm measurement refers to diameter of the shaft.
Thanks Carleen! I think you're right about the mm.
Very interesting video thank you. I have to use the hooks with the silicone handle at the moment otherwise my hand feels sore or uncomfortable x 😊
I totally get that some days too Beverley!
What color nail polish is that you are wearing it looks like color street nails
Yes, Color Street nail strips Mary. This is called Long Time No Sea.
@@BonnieBayCrochet yes that is what I thought I have that one
I was taught at six years old on a 5.5 Boye hook so i am more comfortable with the tapered varieties. However, I noticed that some yarn works better on a Bates (Carom Simply Soft) so I use both styles of hook and switch up when the yarn misbehaves.
I enjoyed this video very much. I have the same trouble, if you want to call it that with the boye that you did. I also use Susan Bates and they work best for me. Its my favorite so far. I haven't tried the Clover but I think I will soon and see how I like that one. I agree its a personal thing, different hooks work better for different people.. Thanks for making this video.
My pleasure Helen! And yes, you can call it "trouble"! My brain was working so hard to work with the hooks that are different from what my muscle memory is set to.
That was super helpful! 😊
I have used many styles of hooks. I prefer Susan bates for most projects, I use the boye books when I'm crouching tight stitches the pointed end and to help with that, if I'm doing treble stitches I need the Susan bates.
Thank you Bonnie for the comparison. I started out with Boye hooks and used to be very fast with them. A few years ago I needed a new hook because I couldn't find one (of many) in the size I needed that I own. I ended up buying a set of Susan Bates. I couldn't get over the difference! It was so much easier and more comfortable to use and I became even faster. A few months ago I needed a hook and I couldn't find my Bates hook so I tried using a Boye hook. I just couldn't do it. It was completely uncomfortable and I felt like a newbie. I have been crocheting for over 40 years.
Ha ha! That's how I lost a crochet speed competition (that I had won the previous year). Just give me a Boye hook and I'm about as fast as molasses....in the winter time.
@@BonnieBayCrochet exactly. I now wonder how I ever used them for over 30 years 😳
I have the same issue with the tapered hooks
Hi Bonnie my name is Lorraine I live in Albany New York I love your tutorial you did about the hooks today and it makes a lot of sense the reason why some of my stuff don't come out the way I think it should come out it's because I never paid attention to the difference in the sizes of the hook I get the size that the pattern calls for and I crochet my product now I will pay more attention to maybe I should look for another hook of the same size thank you makes a lot of sense to me thank you God bless
Definitely consider the hook size a suggestion rather than a mandate Lorraine! Yes, gauge reigns supreme, especially with fitted items.
Thank you Bonnie very much for your feedback God bless
By the way I'm doing a old pattern of yours which is the Aaron Hart's throw for my nephew's baby I think it's beautiful again God bless you
Thanks for the comparison! I prefer Susan Bates and close second is Clover. The type of yarn is a major variable in which I use. I bought 2 sets (to get all sizes) of Prym hooks, but they are plastic and don't glide as easily on acrylic and cotton yarns, although I haven't tried on animal fibers. Maybe plastic hooks could be in the review. I also have London Kaye with twisted handle.
Nice! Haven't tried a London Kaye yet.
hi bonny,,i am anxiously wating for your video about the white cottn top you have promissed it will be released by the end of may early june, thank you for evry effort you make in doing these videos, i am a fan in your wark thanks again
Just got this back from my editor last night! Should be ready for Monday Nahida!😊❤️
I love the music!!
I use Susan Bates Soft, and SB Luxite, Cover Amours, andcFurls Odyssy. Boye hooks are OK, too.I guess I am comfortable with most hooks,
You are definitely more flexible that me! My muscle memory is almost set in stone!😊
Don’t you find the Susan Bates hook splits the yarn more? It does for me.
Not any more than any other hook. Sometimes that’s more of a yarn issue more than a hook issue in my personal opinion. The pointier hook allows me more speed and consistency.
Thank you for this comparison. I prefer Susan Bates for the same reasons. I'm trying the new ones with soft handles. Having a pencil grip, will have to hold in the handle and not the thumb rest. Most of the ergonomic ones are not so ergonomic for me because the handle hits my hand.
Yes, and I also find that the nice cushy handle gets in the way of the yarn too.
Very interesting!
Bonnie have you used the furls odyssey? I seem to be able to crochet faster and without pain. It is ergonomic but it also has weight to it. It seems to help me with my crocheting movements.
I may have to check those out Ghzala. I’m all about crochet comfort!😊😬
@@BonnieBayCrochet Bonnie… The Odyssey really is a good hook…even for my small hand. The weight, and balance are good, and the nick level plated hook glides through the yarn.
Michaels has individual Susan Bates hooks both normal and soft handles. On the normal ones I used polymer clay to make a bigger handle.
I bet these are beautiful Mareya!
Clover is usually my go to hook, but the Boye hooks differ by a quarter of a millimeter. At least my set does. Such as the I hook. All my other ones are 5.5 mm. But the Boye I hook is 5.25 mm. 🧐 Ha! And as I was writing this comment, you just said that. LOL 😎
Yep, there is so much to consider with these seemingly simple tools!😊
I actually started out using a Susan Bates but I had so much trouble with it because it's too wide and flat so it was hard to get it in the stitches. The boye hook is better for me and I've used them for years but I have found that over the years I have gotten better and I've tried different hooks. I have a clover and even one from dollar tree and they are both ok. I find that like someone else said it depends on the yarn I'm using. It really looks l Iike you use Susan Bates more so you are more used to using that hook.
I use the Sara Bates hooks,either an H,J,or K.
Hi Bonnie! I use the same Susan Bates Hooks with the black handles as you. I started with Boye Hooks and will still use a tapered hook but definitely have my favorite hooks!!! I too have the same interchangeable hook set and im horrible with it. My gauge is completely, COMPLETELY wrong! I find that the shaft is way too large compared to the head or hook!
I am going to do the speed test! You never know, maybe I crochet faster with a different hook🤷♀️
I feel that I will always reach for my black handle Susan Bates over any other hook! And if don't have them then any other inline hook will do.
I loved this video! Thanks Bonnie🧶💜
Thank you Katie! 😊❤️
I tried the bamboo or wood, whatever it was, It slowed me down big time. Also, I tried crocheting lie a knife, but I can't. I know it seems faster, but I can't do it. I hold mine like a pencil. I can't go as fast as you, but it is more comfortable like me. I love Susan bates inline.
Not a problem! I want folks to find what works best for them and there are many different ways to accomplish this.😊❤️
Very interesting. I myself have never liked using Boye hooks. My hands seem to work much harder with them,BTW, I have No hand issues. I have all Susan Bates hooks.I like the shorter throats on them. My problem has ALWAYS been I never get a gauge right therefor I never make clothing. My Afghans are not up to snuff either. Lol. I either get the length right and the width wrong OR visa versa. TFS
Interesting Kathie. You may try making a small swatch and switching to the hook that attains that for you (and I bet it will be different than the one recommended in the pattern, which is ok). You may also want to work on your yarn hold if your gauge is inconsistent within your projects (if it varies in size with a consistent hook).
I have similar problem with the Boyd hooks it splits the yarn, picks up extra yarn, splits the yarn when you through the next stitch, messes up stitches when working on them. I like Susan Bates better
I've learned alot, thank you.
Good video, I'm not sure why I can only use Furls. I've tried tons of others when I first started Crocheting but for me furls work best.. go figure🤷🏾♀️
So glad you found something you love! That’s the goal, right?😊❤️
Loved it💞
I find it totally depends on the yarn as to which type of hook I use including the material (aluminum, steel, wood or plastic). I too have a set of those interchangeable hooks and mine go up size K. Again, I find like clothes and shoes these days one style or material does not work the same on all yarns!
Absolutely Kathy! There are so many variables!
My favorite hooks are susan Bates. Worst are boye. Thanks.🙋
I suspect we have a similar hold for your hook!
I love the Yarnology hooks from Hobby Lobby!
Yes, they are similar to the Clover shape. Good hooks at a reasonable price!
ماشاء الله شغلك 😘😘😘
Wouldn’t the way one holds their yarn. Be considered. Just asking don’t know myself.
Absolutely Carol! The yarn hold greatly affects the gauge and consistency of the fabric.😊
I discovered something a few days ago. I am no fan of Boye hooks. Though, i started with them, there was just 'something'. Fast forward a few years to last week (having settled in fairly short order on Susn Bates, and Furls wood hooks as my 'go to hooks) Couldn't find my 5.5 SB, so I dug out the Boye hook, it was misery and like I was 'wrestling' every dang stitch, could NOT fall into a rhythm no matter how much I tried.
I have a magnifying lamp I use at night and had set down the hook. (side note I am left handed) what I noticed, the 'hook' of the Boye is ever so slightly 'offset' in my hook, there is a small 'tilt' towards the end of the hook, trailing to the side. It floored me, and frankly made some sense why I struggle (possibly) Maybe they are geared for the much larger population of right handed........... Dunno, just my theory for now
That's a great point! Yes, there are many variables in this "equation!" I personally have made a trip to the craft store when I couldn't find the size I need in the Susan Bates hooks. I too have used a different brand and became totally flustered by it!
@@BonnieBayCrochet Glad to know I am not alone (though, you are a 'righty' if I remember correctly ;) ) I thought about posting this on one of the FB crochet groups I am part of, but forgot until I watched this video. There are many 'fans' of Boye and I couldn't wrap my brain around it (because of my struggles) Now I think I understand more, depends on technique of the crocheter and maybe the 'handedness'.
I got all my hooks at garage sales or second hand
Yesterday was the first time buying a Tunisian crochet hook $8.00 & I bought a circular needle
Very cool Joanne!
TY, Bonnie- great video! I just wanted to add a different angle to the hook subject! As an oldie in Oz I don’t see B & SB hooks as much. Returning to crochet during the pandemic in 2020 I plumped for Clover Amour then deciding to stick to “handles”so fingers stayed warmer also with Tulip Etimos. I find Tulips are so well balanced & smooth I find they crochet on their own! But most of all the fact that they have a muted gold or red colour option of metal shaft & hook they don’t shine back at troubled old cataract eyes (my R eye is blind now)..I use a head torch (from camping/tent shops) for more light & it has an option for a yellowish bulb or dimmable white bulb so I can see my work better 🙂 - & 👁❤️ your crochet cabling patterns 👍🙂🧶🦜🦘
Thanks for your suggestions Julia! I just ordered a red Tulip Etimo (size I/9/5.50 mm) hook to try. Sorry to hear of the deterioration of your sight, but glad it isn't stopping you for doing what you love!
I agree 100%. : -) I was taught on a Bates & all others I find mediocre.
I also prefer the Susan bates hook
I'm a Susan Bates girl myself!
l like he Clover hook is good for your hand l don t like with out attachment on it it hurt your hand
My problem ISN'T the hook. I NEED to change how I hold it! I am very bad to change how I hold it half way through the stitch. I start with "holding a pencil" to "holding a shovel". I'm just too stubborn after 60 years to learn better, I guess... 🤦♀️
I so understand that one Diana! Muscle memory is so difficult to change.
Sometimes a G Hook.
Speed isn’t my thing at all… it’s comfort…and ease of seeing the size…or knowing what color each size is.
Understood, but they can often times be related. I was most surprised by the different gauges by different brands of the same size. So much to consider when selecting a hook.
@@BonnieBayCrochet The whole experiment was fun.. I lobe hearing about different hooks, and why they are.,,or not…preferred. My visual impairment has finally begun to dicta some of my choices. I find myself reaching for my Clivers, and my Susan Bates Softs… I also have four Odysseys….color coded by myself… They are a little large for my child sized hands…
Thanks for a rally goid video… on on if my favorite subjects………crocht hooks.
I think you favored Susan Bates hooks.. I don't care for Susan Bates hook.
That’s ok. I did make it clear that this was my opinion and I work best with Susan Bates, but hopefully demonstrated some significant differences in the designs.
The yarn is bad