Yamaha Stage Custom Birch Demo and Review (my good ol' church birch)
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2020
- A demo and some comments/opinions about Yamaha's Stage Custom Birch drum kit with upgraded batter heads. Remo Pinstripes on the toms, Remo Coated Emperor on the snare, and Evans GMAD on the kick!
I had a birch Yamaha kit back when i was 15 playing in a band (around 2010). There was a gig we played where another band had to use my kit and he literally wanted to take mine home after lol. He had a custom SJC kit and he still just loved the sound of mine. I'll never play anything but Yamaha now!
Those Yamahas are hands down the best value in drums out there. The bop kit is amazing for its price. I know a bunch of pro players who use it and are totally happy. You got such a deal, way to go. Thanks for the video.
That kit is pretty awesome. Not too bad looking either!
In my world, these are the best 'bang for the buck' drums available. I think they sound better than my Absolute Maple kit! That's $3000 vs $650!
They sure play nice. I like them almost as much as my RCs.
I have this exact kit in the same finish. LOVE it. Best sounding kit I’ve ever owned.
Thanks for putting this together Nick. Nice playing! Nice kit!
You're welcome Andrew! Thank you for the kind words! Much appreciated!
Love that opening beat! These have to be the best bang for the buck kits available anywhere! Also, I have 4 kits that came with the unfinished bass drum hoops. I painted them all semi-gloss black and they now look really nice.
you and those Yamahas sound great.I really loved your snare sound.We all have different tastes thank God.Well done Nick
Thank you so much for the kind words! It is a great kit to play, and especially fun with the 2 floors!
I use the bop setup at my church. Beautiful sound! Nice playing too!
Been using these since 96. Nothing but compliments from bandmates and sound techs
Great video!! Love the kit w/pinstripes, and your playing is great.. BUT I really dig the Eagle!!!
Great sounding kit and beautiful finish. Going to get one this October. I am going to get the black finish. Thank you for sharing
Thanks slam-dunked1! I hope you enjoy your kit!
Nice little review! I have a set of these in Cranberry Red, outfitted with Remo Pinstripes. They sound so good that I sold my Birch Custom Absolutes. The snare drum is remarkably good, all things considered. I replaced the batter head with a Remo Controlled Sound and I would bring that drum into the studio with me now.
I wasn't thrilled with the unfinished bass drum hoops either so I hit mine with three coats of wipe-on poly. It darkened them up some, smoothed them out and added smudge and dirt protection. I think they would look sharp with the honey amber lacquer.
Truly fantastic drum kits for the money.
Thanks Ted! I think I'll try poly on the hoops as well. I tried an ambassador X on the snare one time but it wasn't quite right for me. I might try a coated CS sometime, haven't thought of doing that yet.
Hello man. The groove on beginning is great. I play it two days and have great fun. Thank you for inspiration. Marek from Czech Republic 🤝
This kit rocks: great sound, great tuning and much pocket-playing.
Thank you seelane! I appreciate it! It is a pretty fun kit to play!
Great sound and excellent playing! Thanks for posting!
Thank you!
Pinstripes and birch = peanut butter and jelly ❤❤
Wonderful, articulate, groovy playing and beautiful sounding.
Thank you! Those drums tune up pretty well!
Got the same kit in white, beautiful! You got it sounding super clean and totally agree on the kick hoops lol
Thanks josh guzman!
GREAT review. Your delivery/vibe is great. Relaxed, knowledgeable, yet unpretentious. Enjoyed your sense of humor. (Pee Wee reference). I have this set as well, and the bass hoops are my biggest gripe. (My set is ‘Raven Black’ & I switched to Gibraltar gloss black hoops)
Thanks Ken! I really appreciate that! One of my drummer buddies in college always used to greet me by bending the Peewee thing to "Nick-alekka- hi". Bet it looks a lot better with the gloss black hoops!
Awesome kit, awesome dude and awesome playing :)
Thanks Me To The Moon!
awesome kit love the drumming.
Thanks Will!
Cool vid. Just picked same up with an 8” tom. I stripped them all the way down, trued the bearing edges to perfection and 5 coats hand rubbed tung oil on all shell insides after prepping with 320 grit. They are freakin stunning now with all that labor and should be much more stable with humidity when it might be a factor.
Thx for vid. Love the color.
Great kit! Great playing! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Ben! Much appreciated!
Hey man so glad I found you on here. Class of 04 marching percussion RCSHS. I think I’m going to go for this kit on my next purchase. It sounds great! Tasty licks as well.
Hey Brandon! Glad to hear from you! Thanks for the kind words. I remember those days with Crosby and Bo! Glad to know you're still drumming!
Nickolaus Diedrichsen those were the days man. The roots of everything I’ve learned over the past 19 years. I was wondering if there was a way I could reach out to you and talk shop. I need some advice on heads and tuning and various other drum related things. I’ve watched many videos over the years and have some of my own methods but it would be nice to be in touch with somebody I somewhat know. I value your input. Just let me know.
Nice kit you have, sounds so good.
Thank you! It is pretty too!
Very nice kit got one of these in the Percussion studio at the university
The kit is incredible. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Everson! Much appreciated!
Impeccable tuning man✌️
Thank you mapex1976!
Looks as good as it sounds...Great playing too!...Thanks for sharing and Happy Drumming!!!
Much appreciated M J M! Happy drumming to you as well!
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 My pleasure. Thank you 😃
There aren't any better drums in this price range.
Hey there! Really like your playing and your channel. The “church birch” kit looks and sounds amazing.
Hey! Thanks James Newman! I appreciate the kind words! The encouragement means a lot, especially in these crazy times!
Nickolaus Diedrichsen you’ve definitely got some chops and a great touch. Love that you posted some Gary Chaffee vids. I’m a bit rusty, but you’ve inspired me to dust off my chops and get my own set of church birch. I’ve got a 30 yr. old Tama swingstar kit, so these stage customs would be a huge upgrade. Looking forward to more of your videos!
Dude! I just bought this exact kit (same color, sizes and pieces) off of Craigslist. Also got a killer deal...to good to pass up. I haven’t had drums in several years but have previously had Birch Custom Absolutes and most recently Maple Customs. Clearly these are a step (or several steps) below, but it’s really difficult to argue the value of these drums. Can’t wait to get them set up and playing again! Thanks for your review!
Awesome! It is a great value, I almost feel excessive owning the other kits i have. Have fun with those puppies!
I’m enjoying you more than any of thr high level guys out there. Excellent bro.
Nice playing Nick!
Thank you Nivej8180!
I just got mine in natural. Stunning!
You're the only guy I've seen that tuned these so you can see how good these really sound. That's awesome! Almost all videos show them tuned to sound like cardboard boxes. These drums sound 100% professional. They sing! Urethane the interiors,carnauba wax edges and they will improve a little bit more too. I ordered a bop kit but it may be a while bcuz manufacturing is at a standstill it seems due to Covid. It'll be used for most of my jazz gigs. I love that I won't have to freak out about having expensive drums on the road and sacrifice literally nothing in sound quality. played the old philipinne mahogany stage customs at a house gig and even they sounded as good as many high end drums if you know how to tune and select the right heads.
I’ve never tried ‘em with anything besides pinstripes and a GMAD, but they’re not to hard to tune. The 12” is a little finicky but it tunes up. ok. I’m kind of curious about what some single ply coated heads would sound like on that kit.
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 I imagine phenomenal with single ply heads. In my opinion better because the tom would resolve even more detail( for me good, for others bad- cardboard tom lovers). Emad sounds really good actually in your kit. I agree that lighter 1.5 hoops are just fine. Nice if you have to lug em around too. Saves some weight.
G1 coated were on that house kit I mentioned and birch should sound even more focused and would be really bright. Perfect for me bcuz when playing Latin stuff,I play toms like timbales. You have to like that wide open sound and drummer has to have good volume control(dynamics) in small rooms with thin heads. Another great head choice are synthetic calfskin whether it's Fiberskyn,Aquarian Vintage or Evans 56. The way you tuned the pinstripes were great for those that like two ply heads. They sound like Neil Peart's- beautiful open sound. Rock doesn't have to equate to cardboard box toms. People spend thousands on drums then tune them to sound like the cheapest money can buy. Most instrumentalists buy expensive instruments to resolve as much detail as possible out of a fine instrument then there's drummers. 😁
This kit is super versatile and in terms of sound this kit can match drums that cost 5X and 7X more expensive.
Copy that. Nivmce kit indeed, mine is a Sonor SClassix, thin Scandinavian birch. I like the bright punch, quick decay.
@grandcrappy
Hi dear friend, wow sonor sclassix looks amazing and sound amazing I guess. It is a birch vintage kit ? I have an emotion for sonor too as a Yamaha guy. I also like mapex, Pearl, noble & Cooley, pdp, craviotto, Asba (French brand), Ludwig and gretsch. The only problem I don't have the money haha, I need to rob a bank. Hehe
Same kit here minus the extra floor tom. Great setup there, nice tuning, and tight beats sir, excellent playing. I'm kinda wishing I went with the pinstripes now.....Agreed that this kit punches way above it's weight class.
Thank you Arkansmay! There's always a next time on drumheads! I might try the Renaissance Emperors next time.
Great video brother and a nice kit as well " God bless you always
Thanks for the kindness DrumsBikesBible 777! God bless you!
I love your style of playing man! Sick! I have the all natural wood birch kit. I also play drums in my church! Clicks, backtracks and in ears. Would love a break down of the beat in the beginning and the first best you played!
Thanks Law Dog! "Why Ike," the theme of the whole thing is rlrlrlrkkr as a pick up to the first measure and rkkr on beat 1 of the second measure. Savvy?😀
This kit sounds great, your playing sounds great also! Did you port the bass reso head?
I love that the snare has a proper traditional CRACK to it instead of the 90’s sounding snares that have that crappy annoying cheap sounding ring to them. The whole set has a very nice traditional old school Gretsch sound to them. Just a perfect sounding all around set.
Old school Gretsch sound?
old school Gretsch sound?
@@bradanderson1802 I’m referring to the drums they were making in the 60’s that are way higher quality than what they’re making today.
make more vids.....great style man
beautiful kit
Great playing!
Great playing, man. I sold my Stage Customs last year because I didn't have the room for it and now am regretting it!. They really tick all the boxes. Awesome sound, affordable, widely available add-on drums, top tier Yamaha quality, and they look so slick!
Also, I totally agree with you on the 17 inch depth on the 20 inch kick. It really makes no sense sound wise. I'm guessing the they use the same machine for the plywood as the 22 inch kick at the factory and that's why they are both 17 deep. If I get another set, I'm definitely going with a 22 inch kick this time.
Huh? Why wouldn't it make any sense sound wise? It makes just as much sense as any other depth on any other snare or tom. I'm pretty sure if they wanted to they would have shorten the depth.
@@fartpooboxohyeah8611 I don't like the sound or feel of deep kick drums. Too boomy and they feel mushy. Also, these drums are mass produced in China. They are definitely using some of the same machinery for both 22 and 20 inch kick drums. They've got to cut corners some how to make them affordable.
Great video and playing.
I could be wrong, but I believe the inside of the bass drum hoops on some high end kits, like some of the DW Collector series, are also unfinished.
is the 6.5 deep alternative a more versatile snare, thanks, I have a tour custom snare but don't like it, it's maple 14 by 5. In general I prefer steel snares.
I am using EC2 hazy on Tom's, but I like the sound of the pinstripes.
New pins are great, but old ones ain't. What is the longevity on the EC2 hazys?
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 The ec2s have been on the drums since May of 20. I really never play above "mf" dynamically. Usually I change batters every 2 years. But, I like Remo. So I am changing them soon. Have you ever used Powerstroke4 s?
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 remo updated their pinstripes design or?
The finish is gorgeous it looks like Pearl Export honey amber finish ♥️
I have the same set. I love it. What hardware is your splash mounted on. Great video and drumming.
Thanks for the kind words! The splash is mounted on a Yamaha CH740 boom arm.
I have this kit!
Great vid and playing man. Do the pinstripes fit the shells okay? Heard some people saying they don't fit properly
Yeah, they fit pretty well on my drums.
Got to love that eagle 😄
nice motif development!
great kits
Just bought the same kit and as a bonus received a 16 floor Tom.
Come again? You got two floor toms (a 14" and 16") or you ordered the kit with the 22" bass drum an 16" floor tom?
Great drum
I was thinking about getting this exact kit. I want a kit that looks Orange but not overbearing. Would this kit look orange in person. By the way, great playing! Very tasty and musical. I really like how you incorporate chops and the groove and you make it all sound musical instead of just ripping chops the whole time. I do like that too but it can get a little redundant that times but the way you incorporate yours is very good!
Hi Namesake! Thanks so much for the kind words! The kit is orange in person, but some lighting can make it look a little more amber. Orange is my favorite color, but I don't know if I'd feel right behind a super conspicuous Gretsch-Orange gloss.....however, I hope to find out someday :)
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 lol!!! Right on brotha. Thanks for the reply. I will make this purchase and subscribe to your page. Great review!
20x14 gang for life
love that high hat
Hey! Have you checked the bearing Edge of the resonant side of the snare? I got the exact kit 5 months ago and just realized that it is completely flat on 2 sides of the bearing Edge, it doesn't have the angle all the way around, which cause the head to sit properly. 😕 Is it normal?
Maybe its the snare bed?
can you do a tuning video because you tuned those toms sooooo well!
Thanks The Chain-stayed! I'd do one, but I'd just be copying a lot from this one. ua-cam.com/video/9acA7vyaDag/v-deo.html
Is that the original tom mount .
Nice playing
Thank you jason reeve!
Nick this might sound a bit silly, but I just figured out that the extra hole on the tom mount it’s for an extra cymbal stand , where you have your splash. I bought my set brand new, so that hole was covered with a plastic cap, and I just never saw it. It was hidden in plain sight. 😂 my question is I have like seven cymbal stands, and none fit that hole. So is there a specific stand I can use to mount my splash cymbal ? Thanks so much. If anybody else knows the answer, would be greatly appreciated. 🙏🏼
A yamaha CH740 is what I have, there is also a CH745 that is longer. reverb.com/item/26475321-yamaha-ch740-short-boom-cymbal-arm
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 thank you sir.
Great value for money
Sounds very good ( i love the flag 👍👍👍 )
Thank you! I think so too!
MY cost cutting gripe is only 6 lugs on the 14” floor tom! Same with the bop bass drum. Cheap looking!
Oh man, didn't realize the 18" was a 6 lugger! Should have made it 14" deep. Does it sound good though?
It sounds fine! It just screams “beginner kit”!
Yeah, I have a bop kit too and I hate the look of only 6 lugs. I did retro fit T-handle rods though to make it look better.
nice kit
Thanks DrummerJulian!
HI I am looking for a stage custom. Is your's a Chinese made or Japanese? Sounds great! TIA
Chinese - great kit for the money.
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 Just got mine! Sounds awesome!
Nice playing
What type of mic using for Tom Tom
Those are the old Shure Beta 98 condenser mics. Perfect for toms, not bad for snare either!
Nickolaus Diedrichsen thanks god bless
20x14 is the shit. my recording custom has that size and i'll never sell it. never tried a 17 deep. cheers
As they say here in Kentucky, "Heck Yell!" on the 20x14!
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 14 depth should actually be standard as it was in the 70's.
You should tape some old drumsticks to the eagle's wings so it can play along with you. I don't think it would work though, but it would be pretty funny.
I'd have to tap out the wing beating decelarando on a met and measure the force of the bead pull. It'd be a lesson in physics and abstract performance:)
I am debating if to buy the stage custom or Gretch katalina.I am a touring drummer what do you think?like the flag,of israel many thanks
I'd go with the Stage Custom just because of the durability and ease of use of use of the hardware.
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 many thanks . I think that you are right however I think that the Gretch has a better sound
Does anyone have a good answer why they have to make the bd 17” I mean almost all the reviews I’ve watched or forums say same thing. Why? Most everyone I hear loves a 20x14 and swears by them. I don’t get their thinking on that particular point.
17 is a bit excessive, but the more I play deep bass drums, the more I realize they are kind of a cool yet different animal, The 14” depth is a million times more versatile, but the 17” is great if you are going to tune down and bury the beater all the time.
Omg will you please review ALL drumsets…. I’ve been playing for 30yrs …. You actually know what you’re talking about. Please PLEASE Go WORK for a major drum magazine 👍🏻😀well done my friend love it 👍🏻
Thank you Stephen Grant! That'd be a dream job!
Should i go for the 14" low tom 20" kick or the 16" low tom 22" kick?
I think the 14" & 20" is a more versatile set up that covers most bases, but if you play a double pedal, I'd go 22" & 16".
@@nickolausdiedrichsen8719 Hmm, not into double pedals at all, just want a nice punchy deep sound
...You guys know how would this sound with a... Zildjian Planet Z Cymbal Pack? :D
What size thd kick?
That is a 20x17”.
why does the yamaha recording 9000 from the 80th still sound better, than that modern version?! i dont get it?!
Bearing edges, wood source, heads...there are lots of changes. Haven't tried the new ones yet but I sure love my old ones.
totally agree about the unfinished bass drum hoops. they definitely look worse to my eye.
Which drums set do you suggest? Yamaha stage custom birch or Tama superstar maple?
I never tried the Tama, but either would probably be great.
Imo these Yamahas sound amazing esp for the price.
If I may, I prefer the look of the yamaha's and really love the tom mounting system, so I would go Yamaha. I hate L-arm tom set ups e.g., Tama, Ludwig, Mapex, Gretsch and DW. Although I could deal with Sonors L set up as they are unique.
Clean sounding set for the money of course. Snare is cheap and fragile. I use my good Gretsch and DW snares with them live
Snare is the same wood and plies as the toms, same lugs, same rims. If the snare is cheap and fragile, so is the rest of the kit.
Can you gig with these kits...
Heck yeah! They great and there’s no guilt for dingin’ up cheap drums!
I said under my breath with you the bass drum hoops need to be finished. Surprising the amount of companies out there selling kits for 2k like this. Ridiculous. And oh yeah...meka leka hi meka hiney ho!
Thanks for the kind words Ted! Non matching bass drum hoops are completely unacceptable on any mid to high end kit. I guess it ain’t the 90’s anymore.🥲 The first SCB kits had matching hoops.
Why don’t they sound like Dave Weckl’s toms ?
They probably would with some Ambassador batters and perfect tuning, those pin stripes are pretty thuddy.
Coated ambassadors yes, pin stripes are opposite sound.
The stage customs from the 90's sounded much better
I know. Especially when Tony Morales and Andrew Gillum play them.
More than likely he has replaced the heads because that makes all the difference in sound.
6 ply birch wood..uuh that's not the kind Amazon, sweet water and guitar center are selling. There's only have a very thin layer of birch but calling it full birch wood. When really it particular board underneath the birch veneer. Buyer beware.
10 points for the PeeWee reference!
Thanks, I had a great drummer friend in college who used to say "Nick-aleka-hi, meka-hinie-ho" when he saw me.
Behind you is a Israeli flag :) I loved it :)
I hate the flag.
Is this the ISRAELI flag on the background?
Yes sir.
CHINA WOOOOOO