I find it interesting that the Justice League still doesn’t trust Raven, I remember when Batman told Tim Drake that he shouldn’t trust her because she would lie to others to get the job done when necessary, even though that’s what Batman does.
I was so mad at the Justice League for this. Even if she was lying (though she wasn't) it's not like they didn't have the means to investigate, to at least see if she was telling the truth but no. Almighty Justice League as too good for that.... They wanna preach about morals and goodness??? Batman has perfected ways to kill them all, Diana kills, Zatanna brainwashed Batman with the league's greenlight and Clark doesn't think logically at all....He hardly ever think about the bigger picture😤😤😤 I love them but sometimes they're real assholes
@@digitpixel9198 Diana doesn't kill. the ONLY time she did was Maxwell Lord and that was because he HAD TO die in order to free Superman from him. WW also has a Strong Code against Pointless killing Unless there are absolutely No other Options. why do you think Cheetah, Giganta, Circe, Dr.Psycho and Ares are Still around breathing?
@@Rev4mpz Yeah, fortunately Tim shortly ignored Bruce’s warning after Starfire told him, Conner, Bart, and Cassie, Raven’s origin story, and both Red Robin and Raven became good friends and trust each other.
I think it’s important to mention that Raven trapped her father in a crystal in Azzarth and when he broke free, she trapped him in it again and decided to put it on her head to watch over it. she said that she hears him terrorizing her 24/7, saying hateful things to her so she loses control. she said she focuses so much energy on not letting him take control. imagine her powers if she didn’t have to focus so much of her energy on keeping her father at bay.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt I was saying that trigon is one of the most powerful beings in the universe, so obviously Raven would be weakened if she constantly had to hold her father back. It’s not lazy writing, it’s common sense
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt I was saying that trigon is one of the most powerful beings in the universe, so obviously Raven would be weakened if she constantly had to hold her father back. It’s not lazy writing, it’s common sense
@@jalderink Raven didn't genuinely love Wally West (whose own super fast Speed Force powers as Kid Flash were internally killing him from the inside out, he was already lovingly engaged to civilian Linda Park & he was being offered a prominent position on the restructured Justice League after his mentor & Silver Age Flash Barry Allen [who had himself been trained by the original Flash Jerry Gerrick in the wake of Jerry's own retirement many years prior] stepped down from the role), remember? Everyone who has truly followed the comics from that time knows that Raven purposely emotionally manipulated Wally just to keep him a part of the team, even though all realized he had no plans to stay. Later on, when Raven was rediscovering her own emotions for the first time, her latent, unrequited crush on Nightwing (if we're honest, Dick Grayson's had enough relationship struggles as-is due to remaining in an established recurring romance with Gotham City Commissioner James "Jim" Gordon's headstrong ginger daughter Barbara Gordon -- who secretly was the OG Batgirl under her father's nose until she was forced to become the wheelchair bound Oracle after The Joker broke her spine with a crowbar -- in the _Batman_ line of material despite also getting previously paired up with the first Wonder Girl Donna Troy during the 1960's _Teen Titans_ comics that debuted the team as a "junior Justice League" of kid sidekicks ahead of Donna's doomed marriage to questionable businessman Terry Long, the recent live-action _TITANS_ series presumably set around the same time period likewise has the humanized Trigon force Dick to seemingly recall starting a family with Dawn/the female Dove before heroic rival Hank/Hawk basically took Dick's place in his mother-to-be young bride's heart once the former ward of Bruce "[The] Batman" Wayne was reluctantly goaded back to a tragically worse dystopian Gotham in order to regretfully take down his now murderously delusional mentor AND to top it off, the 1980's comics themselves legitimately showed how he was currently knocking boots with displaced alien royalty Koriand'r aka Starfire, at least when he wasn't being sexually accosted by the dubiously devious time-trapped Team Titan Mirage [who had deliberately disguised herself as the Tamaranian princess whilst the genuine article languished in prison due to wrongful incarceration for a falsified crime she didn't commit], so Raven crushing on him too was more or less thrown in for mere shock value, but it had no credibly valid reason to exist otherwise) saw her unintentionally emotionally manipulate Dick as well. As it stands, each seemingly standalone incident involving Raven warping the minds of Wally & Dick was done strictly against those guy's free will. That's not love, that's mind-controlled possession, which is criminally illegal, mind you! Comparatively, Gar was the first to openly call Raven beautiful in _New Teen Titans_ issue #1 & even erroneously theorized that she only reunited the Titans simply just to meet him once he left The Doom Patrol to join the New Teen Titans, with his sheer ignorance of Trigon's looming arrival apparent for all to see. When Gar was fatally wounded by Deathstroke, Raven used her untapped rejuvenation powers to bring him back to life, with tears streaming down her face as she admonished him, saying, "Don't you dare die on me, Garfield Logan!" This small moment indicated that there, indeed, was a seed/kernel of growing interest that was later grafted into the ever-popular BBXRAE ship (which 1980's source comic creator & the animated series' recurring guest writer/lead consultant Marv Wolfman, Joe Torres as head writer of the 2003-2006 _Teen Titans GO!_ branching comics meant to serve as an extension of the animated series' preceding continuity, 3rd iteration _Teen Titans_ comics primary writer [the run spanned from 2003-2011 & finalized the pre-New 52 comic timeline with BBXRAE being romantic endgame] & live-action _TITANS_ streaming series show runner Geoff Johns, original animated voice actors Greg Cipes & Tara Strong [who support "themselves" romantically; meaning, the voices of BB & Rae are BBXRAE shippers, too], _Titans Academy_ writer Tim Sheridan and graphic novelists Kami Garcia & Gabriel Piccolo ALL actively endorse by the way, so kindly quit being an ass towards the fan favorite pairing the majority of the DC fan base enjoys & those in high places concerning DC Comics' history readily embrace). In comparison to the stability of BBXRAE (unwanted separations aside, given that this is still DC we're dealing with here, whose editorial team doesn't like long-term committed relationships for their cash cow superheroes for some Presence-forsaken reason), none of Raven's other so-called "relationships" ever really amounted to much, mostly because the bulk of them lacked any kind of true mutual attraction from the other person, Eric Forrester was an evil vampire siphoning powers from his female superhero conquests so he could remain eternally young (within the confines of the animated series, dread dragon Malchior essentially was the TV cartoon equivalent to Eric Forrester, except that Malchior was instead trapped within a magical fantasy storybook until a deceived Raven unwittingly released him, only to send the accursed reptile back from whence he came once she fell victim to his treachery [right down to both Malchior & Raven each implying that the former had somehow successfully seduced the inexperienced teenage female mystic into giving herself in a sexual way to the deceptive villain's disguise as the suave wizard Rorek -- who had first bound the evil dragon to the enchanted tome all those ages ago during the Middle Ages -- per certain lines of dialog, namely "Face it, I got what I wanted & I don't need you anymore!" from the boastful baddie & "He lied to me. He lied! And...I gave him what he wanted." from an emotionally wrecked, heartbroken & ashamed Raven] before willingly finding herself CLUTCH-HUGGING a receptively understanding Beast Boy on the rebound), or worthy circumstances in source comic canon actively prevented anything from blossoming (As far as Joseph Wilson alias Jericho was concerned, Trigon's arrival put Raven on edge about any kind of commitment beyond close friendship, Jericho being the son of the group's prevailing arch nemesis Deathstroke put everyone except a certain crystal girl on guard considering the down-sliding track record as it relates to the Titans basically raising the children of their most renowned villain & JERICHOXKOLE was a thing before Kole heroically sacrificed herself & poor Joey soon went completely insane afterwards), Tara "Terra" Markov in comic canon was a backstabbing jail bait harlot sleeping with Deathstroke whilst simultaneously stringing poor infatuated Changeling along before the big reveal that she was the Judas of the Titans all along, Gar's very brief romance with civilian GF Jillian mutually ended following her getting kidnapped by Gar's crooked "uncle" Nicholas Galtry & held for ransom shortly before Gar willingly let Galtry die once the Arsenal villain suit Galtry had stolen malfunctioned after Gar had landed a killing blow in one of his lethal reptilian forms and finally, Deathstroke's daughter Rose Wilson alias Ravager III being romantically interested in him never made much sense whatsoever, so pairing them was rather ridiculous on DC's part.
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh ok so that last part rose was into Garfield now I'm thinking of the perfect revenge for slade by having beastboy F**k his daughter.
@@thegreatscribbles960 How is it revenge when Rose is just as demented as her father? Primarily, for 3 reasons, ranging from least horrible to most deplorable: 1. Slade was a terrible father, no matter the timeline, but in pre-New 52 comics, Rose wasn't Adeline Kane's daughter like she was retconned into being in the New 52 comics, until the unwanted reboot was itself, thankfully, retconned via the Revival comics that added back a lot of the favorable aspects of the pre-New 52 comics to the reworked timeline. Meaning, not only did he commit an adulterous affair against his wife Adeline, but Rose was actually conceived during a one night stand in Mexico whilst doing a job (which was to do away with a former student of the criminal organization who had initially started out just as The H.I.V.E intended & had primarily become successful largely because of his unsavory backdoor dealings, but over time, he had gotten himself a loving family -- similar to Slade himself, this man had kept his wife & children in the dark concerning his underhanded activities, probably convincing himself that he did it to protect them, safeguard his publicized reputation & hide his scruples out of unadmitted shame -- after which he subsequently decided to cut ties with his criminal past meanwhile remaining a relatively "innocent" businessman [bearing technically legal loophole exceptions that nearly all corporate officials purportedly engage in to maintain their high status, economically political standings, and strong positions of power, even if these actions clearly go against their newfound moral code & reintegration into normalized society], whom The H.I.V.E had blackmailed Deathstroke into begrudgingly killing) that the masked mercenary had with Rose's youthfully beautiful-by-Latina-standards-but-still-dirt-end-poor biological mother "Sweet" Lillian Wentworth ahead of almost immediately abandoning her, even before Rose was born; Sadly, "Sweet" Lilly was killed in a hit & run -- which was orchestrated by The H.I.V.E, naturally -- meanwhile trying to motherly protect her daughter, yet Rose had already distanced herself from her mother by this point, but was still greatly affected by her mother's death, despite becoming an adolescent delinquent (actually working for The Jackyl incidentally, who serves the very same criminal organization that ran over her mother, tried to turn Jericho into a super-weapon before slicing his throat when their father defied his inherited contract with The H.I.V.E to save him, and before the rescue, the criminal organization had even planned to use the innocent physic body-possessor as a backup insurance policy on the off-chance Rose began to question her allegiances by using her brother against her, which did happen once Rose uncovered her family ties to Deathstroke & a newly recaptured Jericho, whom she freed, just for The Jackyl to attack both siblings before Deathstroke actually made the save for his children). Watch the movie _Deathstroke: Knights & Dragons_ on HBO Max for more. 2. Upon adopting the Ravager moniker years later, Rose conveniently dresses in a female equivalent of her father's Deathstroke outfit & even gouges out her own eye with her broadsword to be "Just Like Daddy". It would later be revealed that Slade had drugged his daughter, causing her to snap, essentially turning into a female version of Deathstroke. 3. Aside from having sexual congress with sociopathic 16-year-old geomancer Tara "Terra" Markov during _The Judas Contract_ betrayal storyline, it would also emerge that along with drugging his daughter (it was eventually retconned that Terra was drugged, too, which wasn't part of _The Judas Contract_ arc originally, since unhinged Terra was the one actually playing Deathstroke whilst deceiving the Titans, however, this was, of course, before new writers blatantly infatuated with Terra tried to reform a character that was never intended to have any redeemable qualities, since she was #EvilAllAlong from the very beginning, until later incarnations reworked her character to be an emotionally irrational teenager with unstable powers wrongfully misled by Deathstroke, rather than her true characterization as a sickly twisted moll who was fully aware of her duplicitous, backstabbing actions & did what she did of her own willful volition), Slade also FUCKED his daughter Rose, thus messing her up physically & psychologically.
When you see great origins like this it really makes you mourn for DC films that they had this treasure trove of characters and world building that they have either wasted or simply not utilized
I swear they’re too focused on the Justice League and just keep popping out different Batman films. Like… come on!! We need a live-action Teen Titans film! I really wanna see the Judas Contract as a full-length movie sometime in the future.
Seeing Beastboy and Raven's relationship being mentioned made me light up. I'm glad it was included since Beastboy was such an important person in her life.
@@lifeline.6144 Plus, in the comics, Raven's far too old for Damian. I don't believe the hooey claiming she's been de-aged (again). It seems like DC's content with keeping Raven young & making her and Beast Boy the youngest members of the Titans team, aside from their mentoring the former Young Justice members during the 2003-2011 "New Earth" soft reboot of the Teen Titans in comics or more recently, Tim Scheridan having them teach the future of superheroes in Titans Academy.
She honestly needs a movie It would kinda be perfect (well in my opinion) to set up the teen titans movie If Warner bros even considers it. The tv show has good casting and costumes but the writing is just awful hoping season 3 is better. Raven is legit my favourite DC character sorceress and needs to be in a movie
Also tho the girls who plays Raven was amazing and did a great job I still think they should have gotten a Native American to play Raven Because in the comics it was hinted that she was Native American and said that she actually is Native American
@@eivor5453 Actually, she is. The Unkindness version of Raven knows what each other separate variation of herself from any diverging reality is doing at any precise moment. She can wipe out any universe (if not the entire DC Multiverse itself) with but a single thought & has fought her great-grandfather & Father of Creation, The Presence (God in DC lore) to a standstill, so...
Arella is so badass in "The New Teen Titans" of eighties, I finally started liking her as a character. I mean, darn, she really loves Raven in spite of all the pain Trigon caused herm and without her Titans would not be able to save the world at least twice. That's quite an accompishment for 'just a mom of a superhero'.
I was actually hoping for a separate film starring these two fighting together. Too bad we only got to see it only in Justice League Dark Apokolips War. But at least we got something lol
I’m ready to see a more grown mature Raven animated. More developed with her powers as well. I’m ready to stray away from the whole “teen Titans” She can do so much for the justice league 🤩
Honestly, I don't think she stands out that well past the teen titans. Her story revolves around her struggle with her emotions and trying to fit in with the people around her. Her story arc was completed neatly in Teen Titans, and past that, she's... Kinda just a girl Constantine without the charisma
wow poor raven i never knew she had such a tough life. yet she became an incredible hero. she was my favorite titan. great job can't wait for the next video.
Imagine having to constantly tame another side of you 24/7. That's like being a lion tamer stuck in cage with the toughest of all lions. There's no downtime just fighting for your own soul sake for all eternity. At this point she's not just a hero, she holds the balance scale of this universe. Yet you notice how she doesn't really have time to be human. She has to devote herself to this universe on another level
Raven stated that if her powers left unchecked, she'd destroy the universe, she warped a universe to fit Trigon's ends, put the world's souls and even JL's souls into a perpetual agony,warped Azarath into a cursed dimension after her birth immediately and the sky turned black by her demonic presence in the comics and destroyed her first planet as 10 years old.
I can't wait to see the origin of Raven who is one of the Teen Titans members and the daughter of Trigon. Is this video really going to explore all of the darkest portions of her origins?
my favorite I really love the comics that involves her interacting with the "old generation" once she gave advise to catwoman and once she fought joker, she won but was horrified of the crime prince.
Thank you so much for doing Raven's origin, she is one of my favorite member's of the Titans. I loved how you used clips from the DCAU movies. Could you do the origins of Red Hood, Shazam, Mr. Freeze, Bane, Deathstroke, Ravager, Cyborg, Beastboy, Static, Creeper, and Starfire?
I love this channel since i easily bored reading a book/comic so this really helping not to mention the way you telling is very fascinating as always thanks.
I still can’t get over the fact Titans has such cool characters and they’re under using them 😑😑😑 I’m just gonna watch Season 3 for the hot actors……I hope DC makes a movie someday, it could be Horror themed and be one o the most unique hero movies.
Rachel Roth aka RAVEN Daughter of Evil 🙈:Raven is half human and half demon 👿😈, the daughter of Trigon. She decides to choose a heroic path but is locked 🔒 in a constant struggle with the demonic side of her nature, which sometimes threatens to break 💔 through. After a lifetime of not 🚫 fitting in,Raven finally find a home 🏘️🏡, first 🥇 with the Teen Titans and then later the Titans! Blessings and Hugs 💖🤗🙏🤗🙏!
I would love to see an another animated series about the titans and based the Terror of Trigon saga completely(without scaling anything down like the humans being tortured by demons, basically in a more mature manner) and have all of the titans(consisting of Nightwing, Wally West Flash, Tempest, Donna Troy, Arsenal, Omen, The Herald, Bumblebee, Gnarrk, Hank Hall Hawk, Dawn Granger Dove, Starfire, Cyborg, Beastboy, and Jericho) defeating Trigon, a corrupted Raven, and a possessed Justice League. I know there was a movie called Justice League vs Teen Titans that did this, but in the movie they only fought each other for 5 minutes, and the league(except for Superman) wasn’t possessed that long, plus the only thing Trigon did was just destroying some buildings in a nearby city.
10:03 hey I know that art style I have the comic book, it's called raven by kami Garcia and art by Gabriel picolo, they also have a beast boy comic which I also have and I believe the new book should be coming out in September. I recommend it it's pretty good, it's not the exact origin of raven more of a new kinda twist on it but it's still really good
One of my favorite teen titans characters I’ll because Tara voices are and I love Tara that and she’s also one of the sarcastic ones of the Titans and it always makes her fun
Yes I’m excited mad hatter is one of my favorite DC villains he’s not my all-time favorite super villain but he’s one of my favorites I am so excited for this bring it on
I just want to ay, thank you for that little sneak peak at the end. I have been dyinf to see something with the mad hatter. Thank you this was fantastice!
I was actually hoping for a separate film starring these two fighting together. Too bad we only got to see it only in Justice League Dark Apokolips War. But at least we got something lol. I hope they include her in the HBO version of Constantine or Justice League Dark shows.
11:26 raven, you're destiny is you're choice, you are an extremely powerful immortal Goddess you can always change you're destiny however you want from you're heart. You are more powerful than you know....... you will always be our beautiful Goddess. 🌹
@@maxaugsburger4048 what's the movie gonna be about ? Fainting amd whimpering until someone saves her then comes back being useless again ? Yeah , sure interesting
Can you do comic book origin of Star Sapphire, Larfleeze and Atrocious along with Saint Walker and Nekron along with the Flash Villains like Turtle, Magenta, Cobalt Blue, Mirror Master and Top?
I honestly think Raven deserves her own movie
I think one is already in development
The teen titans vs justice league was her movie kinda like the joker in the dark knight movie
Zatanna does.
@@trkysam6775 both deserve a movie.
I also want to see a team up comic of them
@@serenitydoesthings false
I find it interesting that the Justice League still doesn’t trust Raven, I remember when Batman told Tim Drake that he shouldn’t trust her because she would lie to others to get the job done when necessary, even though that’s what Batman does.
Such a hypocrite
I was so mad at the Justice League for this. Even if she was lying (though she wasn't) it's not like they didn't have the means to investigate, to at least see if she was telling the truth but no. Almighty Justice League as too good for that.... They wanna preach about morals and goodness??? Batman has perfected ways to kill them all, Diana kills, Zatanna brainwashed Batman with the league's greenlight and Clark doesn't think logically at all....He hardly ever think about the bigger picture😤😤😤
I love them but sometimes they're real assholes
@@digitpixel9198 Diana doesn't kill. the ONLY time she did was Maxwell Lord and that was because he HAD TO die in order to free Superman from him. WW also has a Strong Code against Pointless killing Unless there are absolutely No other Options. why do you think Cheetah, Giganta, Circe, Dr.Psycho and Ares are Still around breathing?
@@thecrow618 fr Raven wants to be good, Batman just cares about taking care of Gotham crime.
@@Rev4mpz Yeah, fortunately Tim shortly ignored Bruce’s warning after Starfire told him, Conner, Bart, and Cassie, Raven’s origin story, and both Red Robin and Raven became good friends and trust each other.
I think it’s important to mention that Raven trapped her father in a crystal in Azzarth and when he broke free, she trapped him in it again and decided to put it on her head to watch over it. she said that she hears him terrorizing her 24/7, saying hateful things to her so she loses control. she said she focuses so much energy on not letting him take control. imagine her powers if she didn’t have to focus so much of her energy on keeping her father at bay.
Lol this is bad writing
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt literally how? Trigon is literally one of the most powerful beings in the universe
@@kaylapayton477 who's talking about trigon?
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt I was saying that trigon is one of the most powerful beings in the universe, so obviously Raven would be weakened if she constantly had to hold her father back. It’s not lazy writing, it’s common sense
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt I was saying that trigon is one of the most powerful beings in the universe, so obviously Raven would be weakened if she constantly had to hold her father back. It’s not lazy writing, it’s common sense
Raven is my most favorite amongst the Teen Titans. She truly deserves her own origin movie. Great origin video as always.👍
Eeew She's a demon
I'd watch a movie about her.
Justice League vs Teen Titans give a pretty good origin story about her
@@haileyharmon5298 Uggg
Shes amazing they have a show named Titans and S1 is about Raven
Raven is such a badass. Also, I actually feel really bad for Raven and her mother.
Agree
If Raven was a normal mortal, I'm so sure she'd be a psychologist, she has A TALENT for understanding emotions.
Not only that, but she can purge emotions from others, absorbing them into herself.
She can't even understand her own lol
Beast Boy was actually known as Changeling at the time of Raven's first appearance.
@@jalderink Raven didn't genuinely love Wally West (whose own super fast Speed Force powers as Kid Flash were internally killing him from the inside out, he was already lovingly engaged to civilian Linda Park & he was being offered a prominent position on the restructured Justice League after his mentor & Silver Age Flash Barry Allen [who had himself been trained by the original Flash Jerry Gerrick in the wake of Jerry's own retirement many years prior] stepped down from the role), remember?
Everyone who has truly followed the comics from that time knows that Raven purposely emotionally manipulated Wally just to keep him a part of the team, even though all realized he had no plans to stay.
Later on, when Raven was rediscovering her own emotions for the first time, her latent, unrequited crush on Nightwing (if we're honest, Dick Grayson's had enough relationship struggles as-is due to remaining in an established recurring romance with Gotham City Commissioner James "Jim" Gordon's headstrong ginger daughter Barbara Gordon -- who secretly was the OG Batgirl under her father's nose until she was forced to become the wheelchair bound Oracle after The Joker broke her spine with a crowbar -- in the _Batman_ line of material despite also getting previously paired up with the first Wonder Girl Donna Troy during the 1960's _Teen Titans_ comics that debuted the team as a "junior Justice League" of kid sidekicks ahead of Donna's doomed marriage to questionable businessman Terry Long, the recent live-action _TITANS_ series presumably set around the same time period likewise has the humanized Trigon force Dick to seemingly recall starting a family with Dawn/the female Dove before heroic rival Hank/Hawk basically took Dick's place in his mother-to-be young bride's heart once the former ward of Bruce "[The] Batman" Wayne was reluctantly goaded back to a tragically worse dystopian Gotham in order to regretfully take down his now murderously delusional mentor AND to top it off, the 1980's comics themselves legitimately showed how he was currently knocking boots with displaced alien royalty Koriand'r aka Starfire, at least when he wasn't being sexually accosted by the dubiously devious time-trapped Team Titan Mirage [who had deliberately disguised herself as the Tamaranian princess whilst the genuine article languished in prison due to wrongful incarceration for a falsified crime she didn't commit], so Raven crushing on him too was more or less thrown in for mere shock value, but it had no credibly valid reason to exist otherwise) saw her unintentionally emotionally manipulate Dick as well.
As it stands, each seemingly standalone incident involving Raven warping the minds of Wally & Dick was done strictly against those guy's free will. That's not love, that's mind-controlled possession, which is criminally illegal, mind you!
Comparatively, Gar was the first to openly call Raven beautiful in _New Teen Titans_ issue #1 & even erroneously theorized that she only reunited the Titans simply just to meet him once he left The Doom Patrol to join the New Teen Titans, with his sheer ignorance of Trigon's looming arrival apparent for all to see.
When Gar was fatally wounded by Deathstroke, Raven used her untapped rejuvenation powers to bring him back to life, with tears streaming down her face as she admonished him, saying, "Don't you dare die on me, Garfield Logan!" This small moment indicated that there, indeed, was a seed/kernel of growing interest that was later grafted into the ever-popular BBXRAE ship (which 1980's source comic creator & the animated series' recurring guest writer/lead consultant Marv Wolfman, Joe Torres as head writer of the 2003-2006 _Teen Titans GO!_ branching comics meant to serve as an extension of the animated series' preceding continuity, 3rd iteration _Teen Titans_ comics primary writer [the run spanned from 2003-2011 & finalized the pre-New 52 comic timeline with BBXRAE being romantic endgame] & live-action _TITANS_ streaming series show runner Geoff Johns, original animated voice actors Greg Cipes & Tara Strong [who support "themselves" romantically; meaning, the voices of BB & Rae are BBXRAE shippers, too], _Titans Academy_ writer Tim Sheridan and graphic novelists Kami Garcia & Gabriel Piccolo ALL actively endorse by the way, so kindly quit being an ass towards the fan favorite pairing the majority of the DC fan base enjoys & those in high places concerning DC Comics' history readily embrace).
In comparison to the stability of BBXRAE (unwanted separations aside, given that this is still DC we're dealing with here, whose editorial team doesn't like long-term committed relationships for their cash cow superheroes for some Presence-forsaken reason), none of Raven's other so-called "relationships" ever really amounted to much, mostly because the bulk of them lacked any kind of true mutual attraction from the other person, Eric Forrester was an evil vampire siphoning powers from his female superhero conquests so he could remain eternally young (within the confines of the animated series, dread dragon Malchior essentially was the TV cartoon equivalent to Eric Forrester, except that Malchior was instead trapped within a magical fantasy storybook until a deceived Raven unwittingly released him, only to send the accursed reptile back from whence he came once she fell victim to his treachery [right down to both Malchior & Raven each implying that the former had somehow successfully seduced the inexperienced teenage female mystic into giving herself in a sexual way to the deceptive villain's disguise as the suave wizard Rorek -- who had first bound the evil dragon to the enchanted tome all those ages ago during the Middle Ages -- per certain lines of dialog, namely "Face it, I got what I wanted & I don't need you anymore!" from the boastful baddie & "He lied to me. He lied! And...I gave him what he wanted." from an emotionally wrecked, heartbroken & ashamed Raven] before willingly finding herself CLUTCH-HUGGING a receptively understanding Beast Boy on the rebound), or worthy circumstances in source comic canon actively prevented anything from blossoming (As far as Joseph Wilson alias Jericho was concerned, Trigon's arrival put Raven on edge about any kind of commitment beyond close friendship, Jericho being the son of the group's prevailing arch nemesis Deathstroke put everyone except a certain crystal girl on guard considering the down-sliding track record as it relates to the Titans basically raising the children of their most renowned villain & JERICHOXKOLE was a thing before Kole heroically sacrificed herself & poor Joey soon went completely insane afterwards), Tara "Terra" Markov in comic canon was a backstabbing jail bait harlot sleeping with Deathstroke whilst simultaneously stringing poor infatuated Changeling along before the big reveal that she was the Judas of the Titans all along, Gar's very brief romance with civilian GF Jillian mutually ended following her getting kidnapped by Gar's crooked "uncle" Nicholas Galtry & held for ransom shortly before Gar willingly let Galtry die once the Arsenal villain suit Galtry had stolen malfunctioned after Gar had landed a killing blow in one of his lethal reptilian forms and finally, Deathstroke's daughter Rose Wilson alias Ravager III being romantically interested in him never made much sense whatsoever, so pairing them was rather ridiculous on DC's part.
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh good read
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh ok so that last part rose was into Garfield now I'm thinking of the perfect revenge for slade by having beastboy F**k his daughter.
@@thegreatscribbles960 How is it revenge when Rose is just as demented as her father? Primarily, for 3 reasons, ranging from least horrible to most deplorable:
1. Slade was a terrible father, no matter the timeline, but in pre-New 52 comics, Rose wasn't Adeline Kane's daughter like she was retconned into being in the New 52 comics, until the unwanted reboot was itself, thankfully, retconned via the Revival comics that added back a lot of the favorable aspects of the pre-New 52 comics to the reworked timeline.
Meaning, not only did he commit an adulterous affair against his wife Adeline, but Rose was actually conceived during a one night stand in Mexico whilst doing a job (which was to do away with a former student of the criminal organization who had initially started out just as The H.I.V.E intended & had primarily become successful largely because of his unsavory backdoor dealings, but over time, he had gotten himself a loving family -- similar to Slade himself, this man had kept his wife & children in the dark concerning his underhanded activities, probably convincing himself that he did it to protect them, safeguard his publicized reputation & hide his scruples out of unadmitted shame -- after which he subsequently decided to cut ties with his criminal past meanwhile remaining a relatively "innocent" businessman [bearing technically legal loophole exceptions that nearly all corporate officials purportedly engage in to maintain their high status, economically political standings, and strong positions of power, even if these actions clearly go against their newfound moral code & reintegration into normalized society], whom The H.I.V.E had blackmailed Deathstroke into begrudgingly killing) that the masked mercenary had with Rose's youthfully beautiful-by-Latina-standards-but-still-dirt-end-poor biological mother "Sweet" Lillian Wentworth ahead of almost immediately abandoning her, even before Rose was born; Sadly, "Sweet" Lilly was killed in a hit & run -- which was orchestrated by The H.I.V.E, naturally -- meanwhile trying to motherly protect her daughter, yet Rose had already distanced herself from her mother by this point, but was still greatly affected by her mother's death, despite becoming an adolescent delinquent (actually working for The Jackyl incidentally, who serves the very same criminal organization that ran over her mother, tried to turn Jericho into a super-weapon before slicing his throat when their father defied his inherited contract with The H.I.V.E to save him, and before the rescue, the criminal organization had even planned to use the innocent physic body-possessor as a backup insurance policy on the off-chance Rose began to question her allegiances by using her brother against her, which did happen once Rose uncovered her family ties to Deathstroke & a newly recaptured Jericho, whom she freed, just for The Jackyl to attack both siblings before Deathstroke actually made the save for his children).
Watch the movie _Deathstroke: Knights & Dragons_ on HBO Max for more.
2. Upon adopting the Ravager moniker years later, Rose conveniently dresses in a female equivalent of her father's Deathstroke outfit & even gouges out her own eye with her broadsword to be "Just Like Daddy". It would later be revealed that Slade had drugged his daughter, causing her to snap, essentially turning into a female version of Deathstroke.
3. Aside from having sexual congress with sociopathic 16-year-old geomancer Tara "Terra" Markov during _The Judas Contract_ betrayal storyline, it would also emerge that along with drugging his daughter (it was eventually retconned that Terra was drugged, too, which wasn't part of _The Judas Contract_ arc originally, since unhinged Terra was the one actually playing Deathstroke whilst deceiving the Titans, however, this was, of course, before new writers blatantly infatuated with Terra tried to reform a character that was never intended to have any redeemable qualities, since she was #EvilAllAlong from the very beginning, until later incarnations reworked her character to be an emotionally irrational teenager with unstable powers wrongfully misled by Deathstroke, rather than her true characterization as a sickly twisted moll who was fully aware of her duplicitous, backstabbing actions & did what she did of her own willful volition), Slade also FUCKED his daughter Rose, thus messing her up physically & psychologically.
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh I understand you have read all the comics related to Raven
No one talks about raven enough, she and zatana are probably the most powerful people in the dc universe
Raven's character completely flopped because of Apokolips War
@@eivor3975 i hate to be the grammar police, but it’s actually spelt “apocalypse”
@@blve.january it was called Apokolips War
Lmao
@@eivor3975 omg i’m so stupid i’m sorry
When you see great origins like this it really makes you mourn for DC films that they had this treasure trove of characters and world building that they have either wasted or simply not utilized
Yeh well they will use them some time
I swear they’re too focused on the Justice League and just keep popping out different Batman films. Like… come on!! We need a live-action Teen Titans film! I really wanna see the Judas Contract as a full-length movie sometime in the future.
@@Azarath_89No more teams
She Deserves a Solo Movie Her story is just amazing a half-human- half-demon and mentored by a goddess.
Seeing Beastboy and Raven's relationship being mentioned made me light up. I'm glad it was included since Beastboy was such an important person in her life.
I mean it makes sense they probably both feel like they have a monster inside of them
@Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović how?
You do realize that the comics are older than that 2003 teen titans show right?
@@lifeline.6144 Plus, in the comics, Raven's far too old for Damian. I don't believe the hooey claiming she's been de-aged (again). It seems like DC's content with keeping Raven young & making her and Beast Boy the youngest members of the Titans team, aside from their mentoring the former Young Justice members during the 2003-2011 "New Earth" soft reboot of the Teen Titans in comics or more recently, Tim Scheridan having them teach the future of superheroes in Titans Academy.
Eh. Not really. His name in the comics is Changeling or Garfield.
She honestly needs a movie
It would kinda be perfect (well in my opinion) to set up the teen titans movie
If Warner bros even considers it.
The tv show has good casting and costumes but the writing is just awful hoping season 3 is better.
Raven is legit my favourite DC character sorceress and needs to be in a movie
I’m writing a show set in Gotham. I’m thinking of putting in the Teen Titans so Raven would be in it.
Well the writing with Raven and Beast Boy was awful but the other characters was actually pretty great
But still hope S3 will be better
Also tho the girls who plays Raven was amazing and did a great job I still think they should have gotten a Native American to play Raven
Because in the comics it was hinted that she was Native American and said that she actually is Native American
@@thetownwitch6873 Hopefully live action will cast a Native American
Nightwing: am I a joke to you?
Trigon: You fled
Raven: I left. I had you.
Trigon: Yet here I am.
The Unkindness Raven...
@The Autistic Raven she's outversal but definitely no where omnipotence
@@eivor5453 Actually, she is. The Unkindness version of Raven knows what each other separate variation of herself from any diverging reality is doing at any precise moment. She can wipe out any universe (if not the entire DC Multiverse itself) with but a single thought & has fought her great-grandfather & Father of Creation, The Presence (God in DC lore) to a standstill, so...
Arella is so badass in "The New Teen Titans" of eighties, I finally started liking her as a character. I mean, darn, she really loves Raven in spite of all the pain Trigon caused herm and without her Titans would not be able to save the world at least twice. That's quite an accompishment for 'just a mom of a superhero'.
Glad you mentioned Raven and Beastboy's relationship 😍
All about Rae💚💜💚💜😉🎤
They're so cutee
@@literallynoone7712 ikr.😍
Just like jean and scott LMAO
@@toristankun Yeah.😄😃
Her power set is one of the longest I've seen.
The perfect way to end off April
That's a fact
Ist my birthday what already yeeees
@@almamaulit9688 happy birthday
Raven has always been one of my favorite heroes in DC and Titans. But I didn’t know her origin was this dark and sad.
Raven is not only my favorite DC character but my favorite female superhero of all time
Reven deserves her own movie 😩🖤
It'd flop
her story is extremely unique when compared with the overused superhero origin stories. @@grandcanyon-fu9zt
I loved how her and Constantine were at the front in Apokolips War. I'd like to see more animated films with them.
I was actually hoping for a separate film starring these two fighting together. Too bad we only got to see it only in Justice League Dark Apokolips War. But at least we got something lol
They completely nerfed her she could've done more they ruined her
@@cinthiacruzado2594 what we got ? A totally nerfed and useless raven wasn't good they didn't need to make her too weak like they did
@@thecrow618 I liked seeing her and Constantine working together. They can have a good crossover adventure.
Trash film, they humiliated her.
She’s one of the most powerful beings to ever live
I’m ready to see a more grown mature Raven animated.
More developed with her powers as well.
I’m ready to stray away from the whole “teen Titans”
She can do so much for the justice league 🤩
@@eivor5453 yep Raven is really powerful she can fold most dc favs with her base power.
@@eivor5453 exactly! Your knowledge of Raven is really extensive.
Honestly, I don't think she stands out that well past the teen titans. Her story revolves around her struggle with her emotions and trying to fit in with the people around her. Her story arc was completed neatly in Teen Titans, and past that, she's... Kinda just a girl Constantine without the charisma
Teen Titans Go Raven
@@chaincat33 do you even read any comics?
Raven story teaches us - everyone has control on his own soul
This made my day. Thanks bro for this premier I'm looking forward to seeing my empath Rachel daughter of Trigon himself.
wow poor raven i never knew she had such a tough life. yet she became an incredible hero. she was my favorite titan. great job can't wait for the next video.
Really cool video 💜 Raven is my favorite character in the DC Universe. I’ve felt a strong connection to her ever since I was a little girl
Out of all the stories about raven. This is my favorite. Thank you for taking the special time for making this video
This is why I love raven story because it’s really awesome and badass
And extremely sad
Raven is the badass of the team. She can put all of them in another universe and leave them there.
Imagine having to constantly tame another side of you 24/7. That's like being a lion tamer stuck in cage with the toughest of all lions. There's no downtime just fighting for your own soul sake for all eternity. At this point she's not just a hero, she holds the balance scale of this universe. Yet you notice how she doesn't really have time to be human. She has to devote herself to this universe on another level
Raven stated that if her powers left unchecked, she'd destroy the universe, she warped a universe to fit Trigon's ends, put the world's souls and even JL's souls into a perpetual agony,warped Azarath into a cursed dimension after her birth immediately and the sky turned black by her demonic presence in the comics and destroyed her first planet as 10 years old.
I can't wait to see the origin of Raven who is one of the Teen Titans members and the daughter of Trigon. Is this video really going to explore all of the darkest portions of her origins?
Ikr. Its gonna be movie 🍿 night for me lol.
Rachel Roth aka RAVEN is 9 of CLUBS ♣♣♣♣♣♣♣♣♣Happy Birthday to RAVEN OF TITANS Blessings and HUGS! 👑💜
my favorite
I really love the comics that involves her interacting with the "old generation"
once she gave advise to catwoman and once she fought joker, she won but was horrified of the crime prince.
Raven is by far my favorite DC character
Thank you so much for doing Raven's origin, she is one of my favorite member's of the Titans. I loved how you used clips from the DCAU movies. Could you do the origins of Red Hood, Shazam, Mr. Freeze, Bane, Deathstroke, Ravager, Cyborg, Beastboy, Static, Creeper, and Starfire?
Nobody knowns banes origin and people know all of these origins apart from creeper and static
DCAMU Raven sucked, some of the worst interpretations of the character
19:09 Ahhhhhh!!! MAD HATTER! You're doing Mad Hatter origin next! Finally! I'VE been waiting that one.
Off with his head!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love this channel since i easily bored reading a book/comic so this really helping not to mention the way you telling is very fascinating as always thanks.
You did a marvelous origin story and I congratulate you once more and I hope to see more cómic book origins.
I still can’t get over the fact Titans has such cool characters and they’re under using them 😑😑😑 I’m just gonna watch Season 3 for the hot actors……I hope DC makes a movie someday, it could be Horror themed and be one o the most unique hero movies.
I feel like DC Comics is how I got into goth things
I just stopped halfway in to say damn dude you are amazing with these videos
This is an amazing video, and I still dont get why you dont hve 1M+ views and subs. The editingand the video explained is simply amazing
Raven has such a haunted backstory!
Rachel Roth aka RAVEN Daughter of Evil 🙈:Raven is half human and half demon 👿😈, the daughter of Trigon. She decides to choose a heroic path but is locked 🔒 in a constant struggle with the demonic side of her nature, which sometimes threatens to break 💔 through. After a lifetime of not 🚫 fitting in,Raven finally find a home 🏘️🏡, first 🥇 with the Teen Titans and then later the Titans! Blessings and Hugs 💖🤗🙏🤗🙏!
17:45 _That's so Raven_
Raven: I just have a vision!!!!!
Everyone who sees the origin will love Raven More.
raven is in my top 3 characters in DC.
I just love how the instrumentals just set the mood of your videos
Dude your in top of my list as the favourite youtuber.
A raven movie leading up to a teen Titans movie would be crazy good if done right
That was awesome! Loved the intro! This was an awesome long story!
I would love to see an another animated series about the titans and based the Terror of Trigon saga completely(without scaling anything down like the humans being tortured by demons, basically in a more mature manner) and have all of the titans(consisting of Nightwing, Wally West Flash, Tempest, Donna Troy, Arsenal, Omen, The Herald, Bumblebee, Gnarrk, Hank Hall Hawk, Dawn Granger Dove, Starfire, Cyborg, Beastboy, and Jericho) defeating Trigon, a corrupted Raven, and a possessed Justice League.
I know there was a movie called Justice League vs Teen Titans that did this, but in the movie they only fought each other for 5 minutes, and the league(except for Superman) wasn’t possessed that long, plus the only thing Trigon did was just destroying some buildings in a nearby city.
@warwik Xio GO Trigon is the strongest imo ,he's universal in that show.
This gives me hope that you will do Starfire in the future.
I’m looking forward to seeing Raven’s origins here.
Just want to say as always with this channel I'm proud of you guys and I'm really happy you guys managed to get a sponsor
Holy geez! This was AMAZING! Great research, great presentation!
Raven deserves a solo series (adult anime and a YA ) some movies too
10:03 hey I know that art style I have the comic book, it's called raven by kami Garcia and art by Gabriel picolo, they also have a beast boy comic which I also have and I believe the new book should be coming out in September. I recommend it it's pretty good, it's not the exact origin of raven more of a new kinda twist on it but it's still really good
I wonder who is more powerful out of the Dark arts Raven and the Enchantress I feel like that would be a pretty good fight to see.
Yoooooo I love this channel so much
Raven is one of the most powerful .. hands down (in my opinion). I’ve never seen a list of this length
Oh I been waiting for this one
Me: *does little happy dance* 💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽
This is Raven Super cool Origin Awesome!
One of my favorite teen titans characters I’ll because Tara voices are and I love Tara that and she’s also one of the sarcastic ones of the Titans and it always makes her fun
Yes I’m excited mad hatter is one of my favorite DC villains he’s not my all-time favorite super villain but he’s one of my favorites I am so excited for this bring it on
Red Queen: Off with his head!!!!!!!🎩🐰⏰
That also explained why raven has bad childhood days!.
15:34 💜Raven and Beast boy💚 deserve the love that will never break 15:44
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Wait a minute they're talking about Raven's mother oh wow
All origins have to start somewhere.
Hi, great video. I'm glad that you have made it with Raven.💜 Can you do also with Joker?
Do The Origin of Hawkgirl (Shanyera Hol).
I just want to ay, thank you for that little sneak peak at the end. I have been dyinf to see something with the mad hatter. Thank you this was fantastice!
Raven is just so mysterious. She needs a movie in the DCEU.
Can't wait!!!😃😍.
Btw Hope you enjoyed your vacation 😀
I love ur videos they tell me origins and truly entertain me. I will stay subscribed and I will like ur videos. Keep it up! :)
I think this is the darkest origin story of DC comics. If this is going to be a movie, it's going to be a bomb
What a Great story! I like that it’s so different from other comic stories!
Raven..... i love her🙌.
It was great (: now I wanna see Crazy Jane origin
Raven is so cool and l like her a lot she is my biggest fan evere
One of my all time favorites!
I was actually hoping for a separate film starring these two fighting together. Too bad we only got to see it only in Justice League Dark Apokolips War. But at least we got something lol. I hope they include her in the HBO version of Constantine or Justice League Dark shows.
Man this video was amazing!!!
Raven is my favorite one in teen Titans ❤️😌🧚🏻♀️💀
This was not what I was expecting at all which made it even more captivating
My Favourite Raven was the original, good ol' one from Teen Titans. Who's yours?
Let me know
Teen Titans (:
Comic Raven
11:26 raven, you're destiny is you're choice, you are an extremely powerful immortal Goddess you can always change you're destiny however you want from you're heart. You are more powerful than you know....... you will always be our beautiful Goddess. 🌹
The next origin should be about Joker we really need that thank you
Raven needs her own spin-off series
It'd flop ,she's not interesting.
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt if written correctly it could work. I think she’s a big enough character
@@maxaugsburger4048 what's the movie gonna be about ? Fainting amd whimpering until someone saves her then comes back being useless again ? Yeah , sure interesting
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt Don't compare comic book & other adaptations of Raven to her DCAMU self.
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh it's the same lol
Could you do Red Hood or Starfire soon? They are my two favorite DC characters.
Next is Mad hatter, a known batman villain😍😍😍. Keep up the good work😃😃
Wow raven has a lot of different stories over the years backstory But it kind of fits raven kind of
Can you do The Origin of both Fire and Ice please? I've always wonder about them.
After watching origins of different DC characters I realized most of the DC characters have bad childhood and abusive parents
RAVEN!!! my FAVORITE!
I have now SUBBED
Raven us my favorite dc female superhero.
Trigon and Raven could of been avoided if Angela Roth stayed home that day.
😂😂😂
In a way she mad her daughter life miserable if she didn’t leave the house and mate with trigon I feel bad for raven bc of how much she gone through
Where's the fun in that
Raven is awesome
Can you do comic book origin of Star Sapphire, Larfleeze and Atrocious along with Saint Walker and Nekron along with the Flash Villains like Turtle, Magenta, Cobalt Blue, Mirror Master and Top?
She's like the dc version of Scarlett Witch in the Avengers
Actually, Zatanna is More like Scarlet Witch
lol raven was
actually raven was more scarlett witch
Great video man do u think u could do a beastboy origin video?