Great review. I have had the Montolit for over a year and you are pretty spot on. It's a fantastic cutter, with a few minor nits. One thing I'll do is put a sponge under the support bar if doing larger tile. It seems to give the support bar a bit less flex so you can control your cut more.
Thank you sir!! I have the 36” Sigma on its way to my local Dal. We’re doing some 31.5” square tiles, hoping I’ll only need the wet saw or grinder for my door and corner cut outs.
I have 2 siggys and a monty and both are great but I agree that if I only could have one it would be the sigma. My sigmas are both pull handles which I always have preferred as I grew up with the superior line of tile cutters and cutting mark to mark I find it more difficult to see with the Monty
Great comparison from an actual tile guy! I bought the montolit last year. It's a great cutter, and the stop is my favorite option also. We do alot of plank tile and it rips as small as 3/4" on a 36" plank! However, the guide bar on the left side broke in half, so they are cheap metal guides. Overall the Montolit is a great cutter for pros!
Thanks for taking the time to do this video. I am a carpenter by trade and I have just gotten 10 metres of smart looking porcelain to do my bathroom . The tile is made in Saudi Arabia - the last time I was in Saudi - the only thing it was good for , were car crashes and crude . Credit to the Saudi's for diversifying. The old boy who sold me the tile told me that it can't be cut with a score and snap - after I had paid for it. . The young man at another store assures me that porcelain can be scored and snapped - Duh like who is telling the truth ? My girls and my wife are telling me just to take it back and get some easy ceramic . What - like that cheap fake travatine that I did the shower in ?. I wont be taking the tile back - as if it was a dress that doesn't fit . I really dont want to hire a cumbersome /expensive/noisy/wet tile saw. I am looking to invest in a serious score and snap. This video is helping me with my choice. I really appreciate well engineered tools - be it a hand tool or powered , but try explaining the concept of a decent tool to your wife !! I
There is a learning curve to both of these cutters but once you become familiar with how to run them either of these cutters should work. there are tile that do not cut consistently this is due to poor manufacturing controls during the firing process, they get internal stresses which cause mischief much like wood that goes wonkey after you cut it. So with an unknown make of tile I cannot offer assurance that It will do perfect, but I will say it is very likely these will do a great job. I know it sounds like a non-answer but I do not want to lead you astray.
The accuracy on the measurement bar on the montolit is amazing. It’s dead on the money which is awesome because so many times these things are not, like the scale on my dewalt saw is over a 1/16 off. Thanks for the review!
Very important point made here in the video.the Monty's weakness is the bar. IV had mine bend either by tripping over it on the ground or having it in the back of my truck,where it either fell or had something fall on it.my point being that it could be constructed of a stronger metal.but overall after 5 years of use it's a good nachine
Stephen O Neill do you think the sigma or any of the other single bar cutters are different in this regard? (Serious question) I did bend my 25” Monty, had a pallet of tile shift, was able to fix it. My larger monty has a much heavier bar.
I'm happy you uploaded this mate. I'm currently right in the middle of a tiling course, the tutor has 1 sigma and multiple genesis dual rails - favouring the genesis, all pupils use them also. However I pulled the sigma out today for the first time, having used the dual rail up until now to see which one I prefer and have to say I like the sigma, although the pull handle will take some getting used to. It feels solid & more accurate. I may be purchasing one myself in the near future. What is your opinion on the dual rail style cutters? Cheers.
The pull Sigmas have a different feel than these, Push cutters and I would recommend these. I have not had the opportunity to use the dual rail cutter you mention so I cannot comment directly to it. If you intend to make tile a trade either of these two cutters (they are the top shelf offering for their maker) will be money well spent. Hope that helps.
Don't buy dual rail like Rubi those rails flex too much when snapping and that's why it much harder to get clean snap especially when slim cuts. I have Montolit, it has all features i like, easy to setup and set aside, lubrication for cutting wheel which increases wheel longevity and scoring, no need to set for different tile thickness, that adjustable stop block which can be turned away, only downside is some measurement is harder to read but is use metric scale so it doesn't bother so much.
Hello, you mounted the handle cutter on sigma wrong, the other way.. I have the same model, got it new and it actually cuts the opposite way as yours and is perfect that way. You can just take apart and flip the handle, it cuts awesome..
Hi! I own Monty 36 push and Monty 24 pull with as well accessories like baseboard stop and mosakit. Push version is great for left handed tilers, pull version is ok, but way inferior to Sigma same version (great for scoring but pain to break). Push version witch is the newer model has a big problem: doing out of square cuts, it's pain to see the marks and some tiles don't break as it should (yeah, I know...there's tones of tutorials of how to cut this type of tile or the other, with self adjustable handle is all about the pressure you put in, but after a day of troweling floors you don't have the same sensitivity in your arm and then is when it cuts in curves). Monty is way to much advertising (tons and tons of videos). Sigma don't need that. As a matter of fact don't even have videos on all their products (looking to buy 3E4M and I was curios about the front measure Art 90E4...no videos on internet, also I own Sigma's washboy mop version...far superior to Rainmondi's Pedalo). I never owned a Max version, but I learned alot from your videos and I'll go for 1 or 2 because I was very pleased with pull versions, btw you can turn the handle around if want to push against bar (seen this in many videos), but is better the way you have it now. Cool video, thanks for showing! Much appreciated
Comparison between a ferrari and a suzuki jimmy . Montolit copied the Sigma but for patent reasons had to make it different in at least 7 points .good effort but no comparison at all .If you want to cut muliple tiles same size with sigma you can as well, (you didn't show that option.) Montolite is good for amatuers .Sigma is for Pro tiling.
you cannot push that handle to make a cut, so if you flipped handle the measure bar would be away from you at the top and the measurements on the bar would be upside-down . At least on my 3d art 36 you would have to buy new measure sticker and reverse them . Plus imo you always cut in the direction in which the tile is being pushed to the bar or pulled to the bar....
i stand corrected, i thought his sigma was the pull version handle but it is the max handle with the springs on the side. it threw me off because the bar was set up towards him and usually with the push versions the bar is at the top. i have been going back and forth with other videos that were definitely pull handles and people were commenting that they can be push also, which a regular pull handle sigma cannot be used as a push, only the max and klick klock, so my bad. i have been watching these vids because i do like a push handle which i have on my monty and its hard to really see the marks compared to my pull sigma. i would like to buy a push handle for my sigma but wonder how easy it is to see marks compared to the pull
ребята не покупайте монтилит это полное дерьмище, во первых ручка, когда её подтягиваешь чтобы она не люфтила, то ей не возможно работать у неё становится очень тугой ход, а если ослабить, то она не то что люфтит, она просто болтается как будто на вашу ногу 41 размера одели башмак 45 размера, во вторых, между площадкой и линейкой дыра и когда начинаешь ломать плитку задняя часть плитки поднимается потому что передняя часть плитки проваливается в эту дыру, в третьих, линейка клееная, то ли силикон, то ли ещё что, возможно когда пересохнет со временем будет отклеиватся на краях, в четвёртых керамогранит 10 мм. не ломает. в пятых, станина на монти на 93 состоит из двух скрученных болтами частей, 120 из трех частей ну и дальше наверное то же, в шестых, линейка на всех станках стандартная 63 см в одну сторону и что то около 25 в другую.
@@Артемий81 не трынди, я монтолит пробовал в магазине не х.я он не ломает и к тому же в дырку плитка проваливается между линейкой и подпружиненным столом. что сигма говно что монтолит говно. но у сигмы есть один плюс это идеальная работа под углом 45 градусов
Dude, u got to keep these videos coming. Not many people on your level in UA-cam
Great review. I have had the Montolit for over a year and you are pretty spot on. It's a fantastic cutter, with a few minor nits. One thing I'll do is put a sponge under the support bar if doing larger tile. It seems to give the support bar a bit less flex so you can control your cut more.
I own both cutters and I have to say that these cutters are the best neither one is better than the other they both cut like butter I recommend both
Thank you for your comment
Nah Monty is better because I said so lol
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Thank you sir!! I have the 36” Sigma on its way to my local Dal. We’re doing some 31.5” square tiles, hoping I’ll only need the wet saw or grinder for my door and corner cut outs.
I agree ,either or both are as good as they get....I also have both along with almost all of the others available....45 years and still working
Thanks for the video,I was torn between the 2 but now I'm sold on the mont
Awesome, I am glad I was able to help they are both great cutters.
Great movie. Very important nuances are indicated that are omitted by most reviewers. Thank you.
I have 2 siggys and a monty and both are great but I agree that if I only could have one it would be the sigma. My sigmas are both pull handles which I always have preferred as I grew up with the superior line of tile cutters and cutting mark to mark I find it more difficult to see with the Monty
Great comparison from an actual tile guy! I bought the montolit last year. It's a great cutter, and the stop is my favorite option also. We do alot of plank tile and it rips as small as 3/4" on a 36" plank! However, the guide bar on the left side broke in half, so they are cheap metal guides. Overall the Montolit is a great cutter for pros!
Excellent video and comparison!
Thank you. I enjoy your posts as well.
Nice join 👌👌
Great video! Thanx!
Thanks for taking the time to do this video. I am a carpenter by trade and I have just gotten 10 metres of smart looking porcelain to do my bathroom . The tile is made in Saudi Arabia - the last time I was in Saudi - the only thing it was good for , were car crashes and crude . Credit to the Saudi's for diversifying. The old boy who sold me the tile told me that it can't be cut with a score and snap - after I had paid for it. . The young man at another store assures me that porcelain can be scored and snapped - Duh like who is telling the truth ? My girls and my wife are telling me just to take it back and get some easy ceramic . What - like that cheap fake travatine that I did the shower in ?. I wont be taking the tile back - as if it was a dress that doesn't fit . I really dont want to hire a cumbersome /expensive/noisy/wet tile saw.
I am looking to invest in a serious score and snap. This video is helping me with my choice.
I really appreciate well engineered tools - be it a hand tool or powered , but try explaining the concept of a decent tool to your wife !!
I
There is a learning curve to both of these cutters but once you become familiar with how to run them either of these cutters should work. there are tile that do not cut consistently this is due to poor manufacturing controls during the firing process, they get internal stresses which cause mischief much like wood that goes wonkey after you cut it. So with an unknown make of tile I cannot offer assurance that It will do perfect, but I will say it is very likely these will do a great job. I know it sounds like a non-answer but I do not want to lead you astray.
... on the Sigma... you can set the handle for pull or push .... just remove it and twisted.... its working in both ways.....
The accuracy on the measurement bar on the montolit is amazing. It’s dead on the money which is awesome because so many times these things are not, like the scale on my dewalt saw is over a 1/16 off. Thanks for the review!
You can adjust the saw
Great review thanks
I bought a 36 inch Monty and now a 14 inch I like them so much
Very important point made here in the video.the Monty's weakness is the bar. IV had mine bend either by tripping over it on the ground or having it in the back of my truck,where it either fell or had something fall on it.my point being that it could be constructed of a stronger metal.but overall after 5 years of use it's a good nachine
Stephen O Neill do you think the sigma or any of the other single bar cutters are different in this regard? (Serious question) I did bend my 25” Monty, had a pallet of tile shift, was able to fix it. My larger monty has a much heavier bar.
Yep have had same thing happen
I own the montolit P3 and the minipuma. My Father always had Sigmas when I was Kid. Never owned one myself.
I'm happy you uploaded this mate. I'm currently right in the middle of a tiling course, the tutor has 1 sigma and multiple genesis dual rails - favouring the genesis, all pupils use them also. However I pulled the sigma out today for the first time, having used the dual rail up until now to see which one I prefer and have to say I like the sigma, although the pull handle will take some getting used to. It feels solid & more accurate. I may be purchasing one myself in the near future. What is your opinion on the dual rail style cutters? Cheers.
The pull Sigmas have a different feel than these, Push cutters and I would recommend these. I have not had the opportunity to use the dual rail cutter you mention so I cannot comment directly to it. If you intend to make tile a trade either of these two cutters (they are the top shelf offering for their maker) will be money well spent. Hope that helps.
Don't buy dual rail like Rubi those rails flex too much when snapping and that's why it much harder to get clean snap especially when slim cuts.
I have Montolit, it has all features i like, easy to setup and set aside, lubrication for cutting wheel which increases wheel longevity and scoring, no need to set for different tile thickness, that adjustable stop block which can be turned away, only downside is some measurement is harder to read but is use metric scale so it doesn't bother so much.
Both sigma has a push handle. You can order lots of different parts.
Hello, you mounted the handle cutter on sigma wrong, the other way.. I have the same model, got it new and it actually cuts the opposite way as yours and is perfect that way. You can just take apart and flip the handle, it cuts awesome..
the design of this cutter is as he has it set up
How well do they cut a narrow width will the cut as low as .25"
now that's an opinion i can trust
Basically what youre saying is, buy both!
Hi! I own Monty 36 push and Monty 24 pull with as well accessories like baseboard stop and mosakit. Push version is great for left handed tilers, pull version is ok, but way inferior to Sigma same version (great for scoring but pain to break). Push version witch is the newer model has a big problem: doing out of square cuts, it's pain to see the marks and some tiles don't break as it should (yeah, I know...there's tones of tutorials of how to cut this type of tile or the other, with self adjustable handle is all about the pressure you put in, but after a day of troweling floors you don't have the same sensitivity in your arm and then is when it cuts in curves). Monty is way to much advertising (tons and tons of videos). Sigma don't need that. As a matter of fact don't even have videos on all their products (looking to buy 3E4M and I was curios about the front measure Art 90E4...no videos on internet, also I own Sigma's washboy mop version...far superior to Rainmondi's Pedalo). I never owned a Max version, but I learned alot from your videos and I'll go for 1 or 2 because I was very pleased with pull versions, btw you can turn the handle around if want to push against bar (seen this in many videos), but is better the way you have it now. Cool video, thanks for showing! Much appreciated
Spinning the handle will not work. Sorry for being so long in replying.
So.. do you get 3D4M ? From 1 to 10, what is your point? I see and Monty 131P5 and I don't know what to buy? Also Sigma 4EN ?
Go with the Sigma all day. I still have the Monti btw and still shit 👎
@@dimyata берите sigma, даже не думайте, только с ручкой max , у меня 3p3m , очень доволен
Can you tell sum about this Sigma 3D4M and Montolit P5?
I buy RUBI MAX TX 125.
Comparison between a ferrari and a suzuki jimmy . Montolit copied the Sigma but for patent reasons had to make it different in at least 7 points .good effort but no comparison at all .If you want to cut muliple tiles same size with sigma you can as well, (you didn't show that option.) Montolite is good for amatuers .Sigma is for Pro tiling.
Tried the rubi tools tz you see the best one
who is the winner?
Didnt cut one tile thanks a lot lol
Sigma is the best
Where can I buy a sigma I need 26 inches and the 48
all you have to do is flip the cutting handle around bro on the sigma
Why? The handle is a sigma pull, not push...
@@vapdivrr5656 that model can go both ways
you cannot push that handle to make a cut, so if you flipped handle the measure bar would be away from you at the top and the measurements on the bar would be upside-down . At least on my 3d art 36 you would have to buy new measure sticker and reverse them . Plus imo you always cut in the direction in which the tile is being pushed to the bar or pulled to the bar....
@@vapdivrr5656 you're wrong I do it all day.
i stand corrected, i thought his sigma was the pull version handle but it is the max handle with the springs on the side. it threw me off because the bar was set up towards him and usually with the push versions the bar is at the top. i have been going back and forth with other videos that were definitely pull handles and people were commenting that they can be push also, which a regular pull handle sigma cannot be used as a push, only the max and klick klock, so my bad. i have been watching these vids because i do like a push handle which i have on my monty and its hard to really see the marks compared to my pull sigma. i would like to buy a push handle for my sigma but wonder how easy it is to see marks compared to the pull
Sigma is hands down better, especially for herringbone and chevron patterns.
I’m torn between the two. But was leaning towards the sigma. Their actually cheaper also.
So basically you still like sigma better Monti but had no choice and purchased Monti because sigma wasn't available in stock .
Yes in the end I do like the sigma better I ended up selling the Monte
Do these cut marble mosaics
not consistently. Wet saw and marble is always your best choice.
Sigma best
The sigma cutter is pull cutter the montolit is a push cutter fyi
ребята не покупайте монтилит это полное дерьмище, во первых ручка, когда её подтягиваешь чтобы она не люфтила, то ей не возможно работать у неё становится очень тугой ход, а если ослабить, то она не то что люфтит, она просто болтается как будто на вашу ногу 41 размера одели башмак 45 размера, во вторых, между площадкой и линейкой дыра и когда начинаешь ломать плитку задняя часть плитки поднимается потому что передняя часть плитки проваливается в эту дыру, в третьих, линейка клееная, то ли силикон, то ли ещё что, возможно когда пересохнет со временем будет отклеиватся на краях, в четвёртых керамогранит 10 мм. не ломает. в пятых, станина на монти на 93 состоит из двух скрученных болтами частей, 120 из трех частей ну и дальше наверное то же, в шестых, линейка на всех станках стандартная 63 см в одну сторону и что то около 25 в другую.
Ещё как ломает кг,на линейке под наклейкой литая шкала,а на сигме наклейка,а под наклейкой голый метал.
@@Артемий81 не трынди, я монтолит пробовал в магазине не х.я он не ломает и к тому же в дырку плитка проваливается между линейкой и подпружиненным столом. что сигма говно что монтолит говно. но у сигмы есть один плюс это идеальная работа под углом 45 градусов
Трындиш ты,я работаю монтолитом давно,что сломает сигма то сломает и монтолит.
@@Артемий81 ну и работай
@@Артемий81 на сигме не наклейка. Линейка краской выполнена. Довольно стойкое покрытие. За 10 лет цифры на месте.
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