Comic Crash II - MARVEL: The Glass House of Ideas
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2020
- In this first in a series of rants on the decline of comic books, Razör takes aim at the highs, lows, and subterranean plummet, of Marvel Comics.
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*"It's geeks who really make or break a TV show or movie or videogame"*
~Stan Lee
They should have listened.
This is a 100 factual truth that the entertainment industry in current year needs to learn.
@@TimothyCrawfordtdc they know, they dont care, all corporations want is to push their banker masters propaganda
I thought they want to just survive on just Casual Audience @@TimothyCrawfordtdc.
the jew propaganda
"You guys have ruined us. That's why we're giving up comics and going into showbiz." LMFAO!!!
I love razor post credit scenes!!!!
Brutal. What was that from?
"Look out for me in the upcoming movie Mallrats, kids!"
There is a reason Stan Lee is a Legend!
@@HS94s0Ahc You didn't watch the post credit scene at the end of the video?
If anyone needs another reason why Marvel is in the toilet: I present to you, the curious case of *KIBBLESMITH* and his wondrous hero called _Safespace_
Death by internet gas asphyxiation
Don't forget Snowflake
"Experimental Internet gas"
Don't forget his Dora the Explorer clone who has never walked past an enchilada in her life.
Safespace's power is actually one with potential to be really cool and masculine. Call him _Brotherly Guardian_ or _Father Figure_ or something and suddenly his power to only use force fields in direct defense of others instead of himself takes on a meaningful, resonant traditionally conservative feel and leaves him with a real limitation writers can use to put him in dramatic peril during combat scenes.
Instead he's just a strangely muscular sissy in a pink leotard whose power is only to enable the emotionally-immature when they want to throw tantrums.
Stan Lee said (Paraphrasing): _"If everybody made comics there would be nobody left to read them."_
He asked if you could tell a story with one drawing, AND he said: "Nice drawing, make another one, another one, ANOTHER ONE~FASTER!" Can you work under pressure.
Now we're in the age in which Marvel and DC'll hire anyone _(with the right skin color, gender and sexuality, obviously),_ in many cases can't draw or write properly because Meritocracy is rrrrrrrracist. Writing/Illustrating a crime drama is different from writing/Illustrating the Smurfs.
Working is oppressive.
Hey don't tar the Smurfs bande dessines by associating them with the current nonsense the US comic industry is spluttering out.
Plus, no one gets into comics expecting a fruitful career anymore. The books sell like trash and, unless you're an already established superstar like Scott Snyder, you'll get paid nothing. Then the creators who would get into the industry just from the passion and love of the artform get scared off by the extremist authoritarians who've taken over.
If you hire sh--, you get sh--.
This ain't rocket science kid. And they only hire the best.
When everyone is super, nobody is.
Being part of a pack/herd isn't that bad
The pros are too busy crying over Keanu Reeves getting his comic funded to write good comic books.
And aren't people, on the left I believe, being skeptic as hell and believe that it's nothing more than a scam?
comic pros trying to cancel Keanu Reeves is the equivalent of a hippie trying to punch Superman
Imagine fearing Keanu Reeves.... wait... **Remembers Wick** nevermind.
You know you're running out of people to cancel when you are trying to cancel keanu reeves.
@@darkroninmarvelthats not a bad analogy. I can see said hippie on the ground screaming bloody murder as they cradle the shattered stump that was once their hand while supes exaggeratedly shrugs his shoulders.
Frankly if you manage to slaughter one of the biggest golden geese in modern pop culture, you deserve to fail.
Damn right.
This is why I have a disdain for plebs
You mean 'All of....'
Same thing with Disney Star Wars
I just don't understand the need to destroy, to mutilate what someone else made. It's very confusing to me why people are motivated to do such a thing to another's artistic endeavor.
Can't believe I'm saying this but a part of me is glad they're dying off, I'm so tired of comics and marvel just dominating everything these days because multiple creative industries are absolutely bankrupt on ideas, so we've been stuck with MARVEL MARVEL MARVEL MARVEL MARVEL almost non-stop for over a decade. I've just been waiting all this time for these industries to finally start "Trying" again.
Sadly they probably won't die. After marvel itself collapses (assuming it doesn't get bailed out by some billionaire elite for even more obvious political messaging) the various characters will get bought up by other media empires and shat into a constant stream of movie and game deals.
@No Way bar Gate which is very funny with it
Been feeling one or two ‘Image’ comics recently. They may be the ones to survive this crash based on ‘Middlewest’ actually being fucking good, original and not part of a universe.
Yeah, fuck Marvel. Would like to see DC not give a fuck and go right wing and smash it but they’ve already fucked themselves over.
Just like DC is part of the AT&T empire Marvel was bought by the Devil Mouse in '09. Although either could be sold off or even shut down by their suffering companies.
I don't get people that think comics = marvel DC. There's so much
At least Liefeld, Lee, MacFarlane and the other Image guys drew exciting stuff. Manly men and hot girls fighting Cyborg ninjas and crap. I don't read comics for a Tumblr fanartist to do five issues of Squirrel Girl making jokes in a coffee shop while Squeeing over Hawkeye or somesuch. Quiet issues are nice, ask Chris Claremont, Scott Lobdell or Peter David. But they can't be EVERYTHING.
Also Claremont fanboy here: He is as much a creator of Marvel's success as the 60s bullpen, precisely for getting Jim Lee into the medium and having the kind of CHARACTER WORK that made X-Men#1 possible.
Agreed. Say what you will about the Image guys, at least they always seemed like dudes who just loved cape books and didn't hate their audience. They wanted comics to be fun, cool, and exciting.
Agreed on Claremont as well. He pretty much single-handedly built the entirety of what the X-Men are, even to this day, including all the tv shows and movies. He spent the entirety of the 80s creating that world and it became the forefront of the big comics rise during the period. And his disatisfcation and departure coincided with the beginnning of the decline, too. When hot properties like X-Men were plagued by spinoffs, crossovers, events and bloat, and the ascendence of the Image guys put style over substance.
The Claremont/Byrne what a duo one of the best in the Bronze Age I’m also a biased cause I love old school x men
@@BraveFencer I love John Byrne’s art but damn is he a corporate stooge.
I'm not a comic book fan, but listening to Razor I feel like I understand.
Just Some Guy is also a great source for comic rants. I barely follow the industry myself but listening to rants about it is both informative and vindicating.
@@viscountrainbows6452 -- I never bothered to watch the latest Star Wars abominations, but I've consumed countless hours listening to people eviscerate the 'plot', 'characters', and 'lore'.
He's worth listening to on any subject.
You're a fan of any fictional property these days, you'll know the pain all too well. The things you like are deconstructed by people with nothing but contempt in their hearts. They have their souls sucked out to be replaced by hatred. Hatred of the existing audience. Hatred fueled by the knowledge that these new "creators'" dream job is forever out of their reach and they have to resort to working on stuff they find contemptible to surive.
Ha! Razor does have that effect on people.
My country makes Euro trash Yugo, famous for exploding when thrown off the cliff in every 90's action movie (you're welcome, Hollywood!)
Greetings from Serbia }:o)>
Thank you for Zastava too! We love your AKs :D
What do you call a Yugo at the top of a hill?
A miracle.
What do you call two Yugos at the top of a hill? A mirage.
"After losing the two previous vehicles we had been issued, the only car the department was willing to release to us at this point was an unmarked 1987 Yugo, a Yugoslavian import donated to the department as a test vehicle by the government of that country and reflecting the cutting edge of Serbo-Croatian technology" - Joe Friday "Dragnet"
Watch out for snipers lol
Thank you. Without the Yugo, 64-66 Mustangs would have likely been blown up/shot up/smashed to extinction.
"The Hindenburg Landing was mostly successful" - Media, 2020
The rest of the media: 👏 👏 👏 👏
"Hey, it _hit the ground,_ didn't it? What more do you want?"
@@quelltech It was 93% successful according to new studies. It's the final 7% that kill you
Great example
Yea except for the catastrophic fire onboard.
Mark Waid tried stopping Ya Boi Zack from publishing comics, and now Zack's made enough money from indie comics to quit his day job.
And depending on his tortious interference case, Mark will hopefully have to sell more than 24 copies of Humanoids to retire comfortably.
Lol sucks to be Mark Waid
@@petewisdom1984 *HUMANITY FIRST!*
How is that lawsuit going btw? I haven’t been keeping up with it
Haters really do make you famous sometimes!
The older I get, the more I like older things. Old movies, old books, old music. John Wayne, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, and Frank Sinatra at their most phoned in are still enjoyable. Modern stuff is phoned-in as a matter of course and “artistry”. One could say they’re phony.
I rarely read new fiction these days too. The most recent stuff I delve into is the occasional Black Library tale, usually featuring Gotrek.
There is something about the old isn’t there? I’ve been diving into Edgar Rice Burroughs tales, John Carter, Tarzan. They have something that new stuff doesn’t: genuine escapism.
@@scoticvsgossage9378 John Carter books and Savage Sword of Conan comics have been my regular reading for this past summer. Glorious entertainment.
I do too.
John Wayne is the goat. 🤗
"If a comic is published, and no one buys it, is the propaganda really consumed?"
-Some guy somewhere **insert current year**
Civil war is the series that drove me from comics. The last issue is pure globalist trash
This. It was garbage.
Civil war is where we are headed in real life. Food shortages are on the way.
The best part of civil war was when Moon Knight openly mocked cap to his face about him and stark playing "capture the fucking flag" while he was actually out fighting criminals.
“You guys have ruined us, we’re giving up comics and going into show biz”
Its funny and hurts because its true.
And now, showbiz is ruined. Where to go?
@@peposo7 video games. Theyre butchering that as well.
Ultimately it's about postmodern deconstruction. Same shit that ruins movies and every other form of entertainment. Lesser creators are unable to work within the existing structures of the characters so they tear it apart and try to find an angle that appeals to thier sensibilities or worse yet the imagined sensibilities of the readers.
The whole challenge of making comics is to create something new while working within the confines of an existing tradition. Changing fundamental qualities like Daredevil's core personality or allowing him to see is like introducing radiation to DNA, it eventually destroys the entire integrity of the organism.
"Psh! Yeah right! The readers don't like Batman stories, and the continued existence and popularity of the character is obviously a fluke. What the readers really want to see is Batman stripped of all that 'heroism' and 'humanity' people ascribe to him. Just have him be a violent, delusional jackass that brainwashes kids to act as his soldiers."
--- A bad comic book writer, probably.
Is it just me, or do the people deconstructing things really want you to think they can do it better than the people who made the thing they're so zealous in picking apart?
Remember when Hawkeye was so against killing that he divorcerd Mocking Bird because she allowed her rapist to die? And then he died and came back as a bloodthirsty ninja? And then stopped being the avenger who most often saved everyone to become a complete loser who constantly embarasses himself?
I feel like western media ruined the concept of deconstruction
@@jonathanmulondo9206 It did. People mistake tearing things down for the sake of it as intelligent commentary nowadays.
@@jonathanmulondo9206 I think so as well because people just think deconstruction is destroying everything about the property or reversing everything. We gotta deconstruct Luke Skywalker, he felt so strongly about redeeming his father that the only reason he even attempted to kill him was because he threatened his sister and still managed to hold himself back, sparing him and bringing his dad back to the light, so lets have him try and kill his nephew in a cowardly way because he senses a little darkness. The man was ready to forgive a guy who killed billions but now he will kill a kid for some naughty thoughts. I:
I grew up late 80s all the way to the early 00s living, eating, and breathing comics.
I am catastrophically disappointed with how badly the industry has been rotted out.
Pandering to Twitter SJWs that have never bought a comic book in their life, either ironically or otherwise, is not a way to run a company.
"Confusing their own tombstone with a pulpit!" This is the single most poignant statement explaining the entire comic book industry!
BTW - Stan Lee dropping the truth bombs on Todd and Rob! Love it!!!
Stan Lee was a gangster
Also a great epithet for Major League Sports.
I'm Taiwanese that been reading America comics since 2007, there were hope for some of us Asian readers wish to push western comics into our region before, but as the quality of comics goes down, so does our hope
And this is why I prefer hentai
@@ahmataevo Hentai brings hope
I’m sorry to hear that. Taiwan deserves more love from America but unfortunately the comic industry sucks these days.
Marvel comics is currently on life support thanks to the MCU, but since it seems like the MCU is gonna go full woke after endgame. Well, that life support system is going to malfunction badly
Yeah. What sucks is that Spiderman was setup as Tony Stark’s successor as the lead hero of the franchise(even though Feige and producers DESPERATELY want it to be Captain Plank) and he’ll likely wind up being “in charge”, as it were, while the MCU dies like the late, great Owen Hart.
The other issue is that the comics didn't feel like using the popularity of the MCU to boost their comic's popularity.
@@endless3cho Bendis' guardians of the galaxy tried to do that aaaand sort of failed at that
Funny since you would think that the mcu would SELL comics but no, so called fans of marvel will just look up explained videos on youtube because they have a short attention span. And it sucks because I know they're gonna screw over my man silver surfer. They aren't gonna respect the fact he was Stans mouth piece on ethics. Nah just slap one liner humor and call it a day. That's pretty much the some of the mcu and I have no interest in ever seeing them more than once.
@Projekt:Kobra so far it seems like Hemsworth is the most rational of the bunch, I mean he refuses to live in Hollywood because he doesn't want his kids to grow up in that environment. Besides, at least he isn't Tessa Thompson, that lady makes Brie Larson look like a saint, and that's saying something!
So let me get this straight: you're telling me that I should be hating Mark Waid for far more than I know?
God, this man's on a role to make certain that he goes down as the Mao equivalent in comic book history.
He's been an immature asshole forever. It's just that he's gotten influence now and can wield it to hurt people now when he's having his temper tantrums.
I noticed this, when i see comic people from the early 2000's and earlier they look clean, casually dressed. Now when i see a lot of them today, not all, but a number of them, and they all look like unkempt cat people.
Not surprising. They think looking clean isn't appealing.
That’s alright, keep em out of the gene pool
Probably smell like cat piss as well.
ACCURATE.
The manager at the comic store by me is always bitching up trump like a doomer.
Same with the writers. Matt Fraction, Donny Cates, Dan Slott, Mark Waid, Jason Aaron, Kieron Gillen, Ann Nocenti, Gail Simone, etc. They all look like unkempt cat-people. The list could elongate for days.
It’s disappointing how far Marvel has fallen but thankfully I can still get great indie comics like Jawbreakers and Cyberfrog
You know, after seeing that one video where Ya Boi Zack found out about Razor and loved his video I always wondered what a sit down between these 2 talkinga bout the comic book industry would be. All I know is that I would pay money to see it.
But yeah. I'm in Suda 51 mode and say 'Let it Die', but never forget and learn from the mistakes.
Ya boi!
@Cure4Living Yeah but I would still want us to try it. Maybe if it wasn't just them and they had some of the other good comic book ones joined them ( I would also want Just Some Guy & the Fourth Age, I just don't know if others would know about them) and they had a list of stuff they knew they were going to discuss before hand.
As someone who really got into comics a decade ago I felt it. All the energy and creativity of the 00s replaced with empty attention grabbing stunts only for immediate returns to the status quo that made the 80s look dignified. Slott's Spider-man run was like a hamster wheel with soft resets annually that you could time whenever Electro and a new romantic interest showed up. Every x-men arc involved another failed messiah figure. Every young hero team would be replaced within a year of their first run, never to be heard from again.
funny enough most artist I've tried to collaborate with to get a comic out, have you be told what the marvel method is and they refuse to do it because they're worried it will force the workload on to them... only to basically demand the same creative freedoms it would give them reducing me to a word monkey and ballooning my workload with stuff that won't make it to print. A major problem I think you need to bring up is that artists nowadays have little to no training, experience or changes professional criticism and writers unless they can draw have little to no places break in or publish there work in a place it can get attention.
There is definitely a lack of good draughtmanship training these days compared to prior decades in many Western nations. It's also one of the reasons why the Japanese comic industry still is a comics industry and not a glorified social club. Different attitudes, solid artistic fundamentals being taught on courses and a business structure that demands work under pressure.
I gave up trying to find a competent artist willing to listen to my ideas; they were only focused on doing their own stuff and refusing to collaborate, even when their ideas (being honest here) were dogshit (wouldn't sell). Even when i offered to pay them.
Only right at the end I found a guy of Marvel/DC level skill and was willing to collaborate but by then, I had gotten a "proper" job and could not commit to a moon shot which probably would get rejected because it did not tick the correct agenda boxes. Life's timing does suck sometimes...
There's no money in it anyway, dying industry. And that pains me to say.
I know the feeling trying to find an artist who will get back to you with a completed fucking initial sketch of a character or even just a status update might as well be attempting to fucking destroy the moon with a toothpick
@@michaelkeha Wow, too real mate. Too sadly F***ing real.
"Sorry I'm doing my own thing today."
"But you agreed that we would collabora-"
"Yeah, I'm not feeling it anymore. Rather work my comic which only 5 people in the world could possibly in interested in. This takes priority because its important for my own healing and spiritual well being..."
"But I wrote a ton of new material for y--"
"Sorry! Goodbye!"
Repeat variations of this many, many times.
@BTIsaac Some people are born with two left hands though and can't draw to save their lives...like myself.
"Writing went from 'woke' to 'WOKE in all caps'" is the best reason I ever had and then some to not look at anything Marvel has been producing. Just let the comic industry go under if this is what they're doing with it now.
The whole comic book industry is obsessed with deconstruction and current year politics. It's sad that even manga is doing better in terms of genre and storytelling
I think in 20 years you’ll be able to look back at entertainment product and instantly know what was made pre and post 2016. The only comics I buy anymore are collected trades or one offs like Harleen which was pretty good. I need to check out Zdarskys daredevil cause it’s probably my favorite character or close to it and I’ve heard it’s good
Me too. The only modern comics I buy are TPB of East of West. Everything else is collecting stories from my childhood or arcs I never got to read. I now have about 50-60 graphic novels on a bookshelf (including things like the entire Age of Apocalypse Omnibus, Planetary Omnibus, Epic Silver Surfer Collection, all the Manhattan Projects, The Long Halloween, Marvels, etc.) and I have ZERO desire to read anything from modern Marvel or DC. And since i've bought all the graphic novels I've wanted now I wont be giving their companies any more money at all.
I knew something was wrong as far back as Civil War. The popularity if that bloated and completely on the noes anti-Bush event was one of the worst things to happen to the post-crash industry.
I missed the original Iceman
Me too
@@TheNickcone
We will know when sjw Marvel is dead when they return him to his original character, that will be the day Marvel start getting my money again❄
@@barrythewarren Way back in X-Men 49, they had iceman meet Lorna Dane, and by the end of issue 52,it was obvious that he was head over heals gaga for her, and more so by the last issue,66.From 1970 to 2011 or so, many times over, it was shown that he never got over her. For Bendus to do what he did, was an insult to the character.
Comic Crash II: Crash Harder.
Lmao. Stan Lee at the end.
Stan Lee with the roast at the end. Buuurn
All I can say is, these opportunists pounced on marvel when it was good, but when it crashes they will leave, we just need to be ready to clean up the wreckage and rebuild something better.
Also that clip of Stan ripping into Mcfarlane and Liefield is legendary and worth its weight in gold
Well, that was hard. “They confused their tombstones for pulpits!” (Chortling loudly). That is a good joke.
And this is why I enjoy manga and CG Indiegogo
Yep as comics being to get more "WOKE" manga is rising.
My first experience with "wokeness" in comics was in Aliens and Aliens vs Predator from Dark Horse comics, all the way back in 1990. Right along side The Terminator. All the them had female leads, and one of them was a Mary Sue. There was also a hint of misandry in a couple of the issues. One of the male characters tries to force himself onto the female lead in Aliens vs Predator and she puts him through the wall. Arny can barely handle a Predator, but a four foot Asian can hunt aliens beside them, because karate. Mary Sueeeeee....
@The Thought Criminal ....Comics were always this woke, they just weren't always in your face about it. Hell, there was a Vampirella comic from 1971 where a Feminist witch cult forces women against their will to quit being housewives and make them stride to become doctors/lawyers/scientists/etc while also killing their husbands after getting pregnant as husbands are useless.
Vampirella says she sides with these feminist witches to an extent, but killing their husbands is going a little too far......
I'm like "What about the part where they are forcing women to get jobs they may or may not want? What if some want to be models, teachers, or secretaries? What's wrong with being a housewife if that's what the woman wants to do, staying home to raise the baby?"
Then there's a Midnight Sons comic from the 90's where a White cop brutally beats up black people because the cop is the only one who sees these alien parasites that live inside them. The comic ends with the white cop laying in the street begging for one of the black people walking by to beat the shit out of him as now the parasites are growing inside of him (only the cop can see it). A black man tells him "No, I will not beat you up. It's cops like you who always gang up and beat down innocent black folk and it's never the other way around where black folk who beat up cops like you". The comic ends with the cop laying in the streets, waiting for someone to end his life.
Always disliked Dark Horse. They were my introduction to slapping licenses onto something that sucks equaling sales. People!e weren't buying good comics, they were buying comics that had things they recognized.
Now, the characters in those good comics are getting slapped onto garbage and sold to "Fans in Name Only" dullards. That's why I'm never eager for something I enjoy to reach the masses. I don't seek out other people who like these things and I rarely share them. It's not that I want to be "in the know" of niche properties, I just don't want those properties watered down to appeal to people who just want to be part of the club.
Creative properties are intellectually like tangible properties monetary value. When more people have access to a product, the financial value goes down. Likewise, when everybody is "a fan" of an IP, the quality of the characters, stories, etc. go down.
You talking about Machiko, the Human Predator? She was raised by Yaujta
@@tadpolegaming4510 Not in the comics. Even then it's BS. It's typical Mary Sue writing. The misandric portal of the male characters, and she even shits all over the Predators.
I’ve read that run it’s not that bad there are plenty of good male characters and the comic goes out of its way to make it clear she’s in the wrong at first for being a stuck up bitch. Honestly she’s more like what if ripely was in predator instead of alien she’s out of her element at first and struggles to survive and later fit in with the predators but works at gaining their respect and learning how to hunt xenomorphs
Damn, I think you’re completely right by tracking Daredevil, it’s the underdog that people watch. Quesada’s run is fantastic. Shame that it’s a business that refuses to listen to its customers, out right calling them outdated and unwanted. They ignored that we only wanted escapist adventures, not a lecture.
11:10 EFF THAT COMIC series. when i heard about a squirrel girl comic i almost got into the shops. when i saw THAT art it was so repellant before i was even aware of the idpol influence i couldnt bring myself to buy that shite.
That last Stan Lee quote was pure honesty.
Gotta love Stan Lee throwing that shade. He is missed.
... and that's why the anime and manga industry is eating them alive. It's rather priceless when you consider the fact that the average club con in Japan produces better material than Marvel or DC.
Actually while Marvel's Daredevil hit the shit fan with "Flying Blind Part 1" in 1998. Moon Knight on the other hand had a resurgence with Doug Moench's 1998 to 2001 Moon Knight mini series where he rebooted his own character, getting rid of the multiple personality disorder and White costume that some jackass writer gave Moon Knight when he hijacked Doug Moench's character back in 1983 (comic writer "Steven Grant", ONLY wrote one Moon Knight comic, It was unreadable shit, yet he left a permanent stain on the character).
Micheal Bendis would be the first to give Moon Knight multiple Personality disorder again in Ultimate Spiderman. And The Charlie Huston Moon Knight run would be the last we saw Moon Knight without multiple personality disorder and the first to bring back the white costume that he was never suppose to be wearing in the first place (it was a drawing error done by a lazy Inker who was suppose to draw in reflections onto Moon Knight's costume to make it look Jet Silver, but he kept forgetting most of the time).
I gotta admit I like Moon Knights white costume.
@@theblueoctopus4494 ...But Silver was once considered the most valuable material to Egyptians and they used silver cloth to drape around the statues of their gods...... So why wouldn't the Avatar of Khonshu be wearing Silver????
Plus Moon Knight hunts werewolves, kinda need a silver costume to protect himself against werewolves.
If you want to see a great example of what Moon Knight is suppose to look like in his Jet Silver costume, look up the cover art for "Moon Knight: Divided We Fall" or the Silver Bowen Moon Knight statue.
Also while the White Knight: Fister of Khonshu might look "nice" as comic book art. A white costume Moon Knight does not translate well into merchandise. The plain white paint makes the new Moon Knight figures look cheap and when they try to add shading they end up making Moon Knight look blue instead.
Plus over time, these white Moon Knight figures will turn yellow and look disgusting.
Edit: Forgot to mention that the Moon in real life isn't white either. It's actually Dark Grey (Jet Silver) and only appears white to us because of the way the sun reflects light off it's surface.
So making Moon Knight's costume white is like making Captain Planet flat like Paper Mario style. Because the Earth is 100% flat, right?
@@RamsTheNameCom He looks cooler in white.
@@theblueoctopus4494 There's already a Marvel superhero called "Phantom Rider" who literally "wears white so they'll see me coming". It would be redundant if Moon Knight is doing the same shit as Phantom Rider (Phantom Rider has been around since the 1940's as "Ghost Rider". A vigilante who wears white to scare criminals). Plus no other superhero had that reflective Jet Silver costume look Moon Knight once had, it was completely unique to him.
marvel went to trash after one more day comics and being bought by disney was the final nail.
Fucking Quesada.
Superior Spider Man was fantastic
Everything mentioned is also a big reason why, when I do go looking for comics, I never go looking for runs with established or legacy characters, I prefer short runs in their own, self-contained storylines or oneshots, over this.
Just watching this now, it's ridiculous how much worse both companies have gotten.
The gimmicks have ramped up and the sales are dropping faster by the issue. They're both not far off from crashing and burning hard.
I'm with you Mr Fist. I am a Daredevil fan above all. I have every issue from 1964's #1 to now. The Bendis through Brubaker run is the high point of superhero comics. I have read through those runs multiple times. Diggle started the downward spiral. Don't get me started on Shadowland. I also was disappointed in the Waid run. Didn't stop me from getting my number 1 from his run signed at Seattle comicon. This was years before I knew what a douchebag he is. He was actually very nice to me. I also love the Zdarsky run. Nice return to form. What the hell happened with Soule? He's a damn fine writer, but he dropped the ball on my beloved blind man. I caught you on the friday night tights last week. It was really cool having you on there. You know comics better than most of those guys. Maybe I think so because I am so sympatico with your tastes. I hope you make more appearances on that show. I could use a lot less jeremy and az and a lot more fist. I look forward to your comic coming out and I will keep watching for the updates. I just hope your unique humor and word play will be on display. Cheers, or as you would say God fucking speed!
I love Brubaker’s writing so much, his run on Captain America is the finest stretch in an 80 year history.
I've always wanted to get into Daredevil. Would the Bendis run be a good place to start?
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp start with the first book in volume 2. Bendis takes over around 14 issues in. This whole series is available in hardback which can be found pretty cheap.
@@catsofsherman1316 Got it. Thanks for the help!
The Frank Miller run on DD was my favorite.
Good old Richard C. Meyer reference at 13:30ish. Well played.
Reminder that Zack was never wrong in anything he said about Heather Antos.
That last poke by Stan Lee at Liefeld and McFarlane really caps this whole point.
Wow hearing Bendis make sense in clips. Surreal.
>Bendis getting to a point in under a minute
I know, I couldn't fucking believe it either.
The guy can (usually) write. Seems like someone that’s just caught in the current and trying to stay afloat
@@chrislail3824 I can't even remember the last time I picked up a Bendis book that didn't fill me with disgust after the first few pages. These days, his name on the cover is an automatic kiss of death for me.
Wait a minute ... "Look! It's Red Batman!" ....
Why would a Marvel editor ever allow this?
Funny how Bendis mentions no story in 2003 when thats exactly what he's doing to Superman now. Word bloat is all Bendis does nowadays.
I will say this: while wokism is part of the problem, it most definitely isn't the root of the problem. Wokism is just the flavor of the decade.
The real root of the problem is the gradual corporatization of our beloved IPs. Corporate means safe and safe means dull and boring.
That's the reason Marvel and DC keep rehashing the same IPs over and over again: it's a safe bet. IPs like Batman and Superman are a known quantity with a preexisting fan base, meaning you're guaranteed an audience... for a while at least.
Wokism was also judged as safe by our corporate overlords. They wanted to avoid offending sensibilities because that risks turning off the potential audience, hurting their bottom line.
Ultimately when you continue to do the same thing over and over again, it leads to what talent you had leaving the company in droves.
This just reinforces the idea of doing the same tired stories again and again because the people that are left don't have the talent to create anything new.
And when they do try something new, you get Safespace and Snowflake.
I not only own Tampon-Man #1 but the entire Toxic Shock series!
This is some damn fine, genuine investigative journalism. Your subscriber count is way too low for the work you do.
Razorfist, Please check out Fantastic Worlds Comics to banter with the manager in Snottsdale, AZ when you’ve got time. We’re both big fans of your content
Comic Crash 2: The Quickening
My only regret is that I have only one like to give.
Razor sums up in 14 minutes what lesser UA-camrs dedicate entire channels to
*Daredevil can see*
So you took away one of the most unique and interesting things about him? Boy! I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder!
Is it wrong that I was waiting for a Lefield foot comment as soon as he was brought up? at least I got it :P
I feel a renaissance of creative will be coming from the collapse of Pedowood. The shift is tangible get ready for the everything woke in 2021.
LMFAO at "Whatever those Euro-trash micro-machines run on..."... got me right out of the gate!!!!
That art in the Mark Waid daredevil was atrocious. Why do all awful comics have to have that exact art style now?
Cheap and fast outsourced horse shit
That tombstone/ pulpit line was gold.
Comics being done in a visual medium
Who knew this was going to be the solution?
I used to buy like 20 series a month (Marvel + DC) during the 2000s.
I read everything or almost everything DC published, almost everything Marvel published too.
Started 2011 & the infamous (piece of shit) new 52 my interest started to die & the wokiest it went the less I've read comics.
These days I don't even read anything.
It's sad really. I miss comics
This topic is near and dear to my heart. I didn't get into comics until later in life but when I did I dove head-first into Stan Lee and Steve Ditko's Spider-Man. I wanted one question answered: who was Gwen Stacy?
I got my answer and in the process learned just how powerful the sequential art medium is. A single page of Steve Ditko's art detailing the first kiss between Peter and Gwen transformed their relationship from two timid college kids who had never had a serious romance in their lives into something that actually had substance and potential.
Now, balk at the use of smart devices all you like, I firmly believe we should have choice when it comes to this. I personally prefer reading comics on my 12.2-inch tablet purchased for the express purpose of doing so, but that doesn't mean I think the actual print books should die out. Far from it. In spite of my preference for digital I have a healthy collection of printed floppies and a number of trades including The Shadow: Year One and The Shadow: The Death of Margot Lane. Yes, I too dressed up in a hat and cape for a length of time as a kid.
The state of the industry is a sad thing to see and it's painful for me to listen to one of your rants detailing the terrible state of it, but listen I shall to your next installments in this series. I would rather face the problem head-on than bury my head in the sand.
Godspeed.
You really feel the plight of Jack Kirby each time you read a Stan Lee word box or bubble where he forgets what the character’s name is. I can just see Kirby reading “Peter Palmer” and being like “You had one job to do, Stan!”
I think "Iceman with a dude" started back in the Morrison run, but even in the Morrison run he was Bi because they weren't denying his previous straight relationships. Wasn't till Bendis's fuckin X-kids arc that it was changed.
That end segment with Stan Lee... damn
Very good to point out that this has been going on for about a decade or so. I remember things beginning to noticeably change around 2011 or so.
I did as well, but still hung on for another four or five years.
And I instantly now have a new favorite channel...
At least there is the Elric of Melnibone comics to look forward to
We're due a renaissance
The only way we're getting a renaissance is after a bloody civil war and a total purge of Communist thought from the North American continent.
Episode 3: Manga! Sexy Horna shirt dude!
Well, all I know is that there is now a hardback omnibus of Solomon Kane: the Original Marvel Years sitting safely on my shelf. If Marvel and the rest of the industry wish to die, they now have my permission to do so.
...Ironically, the 'popular' New X-Men series and Civil War event are the milestones I use to note the end of the Marvel Universe that I cared about. To me, that was when the rot and character assassination seemed to set in, and I don't own any Marvel comic that has happened since.
With stellar runs such as frank miller, bendis and brubaker I find myself cringing into the abyss when I hear someone recommend mark waids daredevil to a new reader.
Remember when Bendis and Waid were actually good? I know it's hard to believe, but it's true.
Great video, can't wait for the rest of the series!
“Confusing their own tombstone for a pulpit”. Excellent stuff right dere.
Nobody can dig their wheels in the mud and spin like modern day Bendis.
This was so good, Razor. Thank you. This video explains why I stopped caring about comics in the mid 90s. I knew something happened, something was different, but I was a kid and didn't have the ability to figure out.
The nostalgia feels good though. SJWs ruin everything.
Sometime in 2017 I realized I was watching more U toob clips about comics than actually reading them.
I knew back then something was up and then all I could do was was watch the industry and culture I loved
Implode.
Comicsgate helped but that world of escapism I loved is gone.
That last bit...oof, Stan. You want a sharp knife to got with that verbal shivving?
Was Bendis trying to look like Dr. Evil in that clip or what?
I really hope Zack wins his lawsuit and takes Mark Waid to the cleaners. He deserves it.
2:01, "Somnambulant": Yeah, I had to look that one up.
3:09, This is why I love your channel, Razor, you're always teaching!
BOOM! Great rant as always but this had a little extra spice. Thank-you for making my day. You are the BEST! Cheers
Stan lee is Right. He is very wise and every lazy generation leads toward a disaster. Thank you Razor, a S-tier plus.
I love and hate that clip at the end of this. As much as I love Spawn, it's literally the only comic I've actually gone out and bought, I will admit full stop how *AWFUL* some of it really is. Sure there are some great dark issues and even characters, but characters like Overkill are just pure cringe. In fact what does the comics justice was the 1997-1999 HBO animated series that is not only one of my favorite animated series but possibly my most favorite animated series ever. It's dark, it's gritty and it's damn good. Then came the 1997 film that is just hilarious to watch. I love Spawn, but I would be in denial if I could not point out just how bad some characters, comics and even how far off the rails McFarlane has gone.
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Liking this video not only for the spot-on analysis of the dying comics industry, but also for that very subtle yet effective Rodan reference.
Absolute GOLD!! TRUTH be REVEALED!! GREAT JOB, Razorfist!!
Its fucking RICH now that Bendis was complaining about shallow product. The man writes the Verbal equivalent of a Michael fuckin Bay movie across every page of his vapid Wheaton-esque-speak.
"The smoldering ruins where comics once stood."
But enough about Kenosha :P
100 points to you Razor for the Rodan reference! Easily my favorite non Godzilla ToHo flick.
great video. perfectly explains the 90s crash and the modern crash!