Classic Comedy Drama I Divorce American Style (1967) I Retrospective
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- After seventeen years of marriage, Richard and Barbara discover that they no longer can communicate even to argue, and eventually file for divorce. Is there still a chance for reconciliation?
Film: Divorce American Style (1967)
Studio: Columbia Pictures
Director: Bud Yorkin
Writer: Norman Lear
Cast: Dick Van Dyke, Debbie Reynolds, Jason Robards, Jean Simmons, Van Johnson
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Love the post dinner party scene when they are angry and getting ready for bed, the perfect sliding doors choreography with no talking!
i love when richard dropped the bowl and the plate it's funny
I was 3 when this movie premiered and saw it by myself on TV when I was 10 in 1974.
I'm an only. My parents divorced when I was a year old. Boy how I remember how sad watching it made me because my father took me to bowling alleys on Sundays too, that is whenever he decided not to ghost me by not picking me up on Saturday mornings.
My divorced parents fought constantly. My mother would make me call and needle my father for my child support payments. Sometimes when she became angry/frustrated at me she'd make me stand in front of her and repeat, Anyone who doesn't have children should look 20 years younger."
I felt so guilty and like I was a mistake for so much of my life and have struggled with deep depression.
I read a quote that said "Never hate your ex more than you love your children." While I don't believe parents should stay married because of children, I do believe there's a special hell for parents who use their anger at a failed relationship/marriage as an opportunity to manipulate their children.
I decided long before my teen years to never marry or have any children. I'm 59 now with no regrets. The nice thing is watching this movie now isnt so painful and I actually laughed at some parts.
Thanks for posting. 👍🏾
So sorry you suffered so much. Sometimes the wounds never truly heal. Movies like this can bring up memories better left alone because there's no going back to change the past. Eventually, we have to parent ourselves and be our own support. Just live the best and happiest life you can now...and avoid making the same mistakes your mum and dad made, as best you can..👍
Old films have better scripts and acting than modern ones
You said it!!!
Perhaps this one isn't old enough.
The great Norman Lear. He's still with us as is Dick Van Dyke.
@@LAFanNorman has left us. ☹️
Bob Mackie was the Costume Designer ( his first solo credit in a movie). Frances Lear was assistant Costume Designer. She was married to Norman Lear at the time.
Good catch. I was checking out Debbie’s Hostess skirt in the first scene. 😉 After her divorce from Norman she started that magazine Lear’s for woman over 45. It’s been said she was the template for Maude.
A most entertaining spoof with a great cast of actors and actresses. Dick Van Dyke and Debbie Reynolds are both unforgettable bundles of talent. Thanks for uploading.
Looking forward to seeing this. In her book Debbie criticised the clothes as looking like off the rack from Sears although she praises Bob Mackie's talent.
Those two in the thumbnail are why I clicked on the movie! I LOVE those two!!!❤️💜❤️💜
49,000$ house 😂😂😂 please take me back to the 60’s!
@Bachelor Bookbinder Yes, people forget wages and prices are always relative.
My parents first house was $ 29,000.00 back in 1953, it consisted of a formal dining room, receiving entry room, formal living room, family TV room , big kitchen with laundry room, two bathrooms downstairs and three upstairs, four bedrooms including master and full guest room. Two car garage and a huge backyard my dad added a den and one smaller full room for the live in maid / babysitter she stayed with us for over ten years I can't remember exactly how many. When my father decided to sell the house it was appraised at 2 million and a half dollars. Not bad my father said.
Income matched the support
Remember how much lower salaries were in those days.
@@billgreen1861sounds like the Brady bunch house :) - I always wanted a house with an internal staircase like theirs, I thought that was so fancy.
A favorite, probably seven years old when I saw at the theatre! Love Dick and Debbie! Rip Debbie Reynolds❤
Yikes! Could have been devastating to a child
@@bronxbearbud272
Not at all, they loved all the gifts that came their way including vacations to exotic places and restaurants the new clothes they had it made.
@@billgreen1861 I was talking about the potential trauma a child might feel while watching the potential tragedy and sufferings that can result from divorce being portrayed as the stuff of comic fodder.
That is nothing for a child to watch, you should have ben given a positive example of marriage as it is positively.
Wow..just wow. Got me at the first scene. I absolutely enjoyed myself. The bathroom scene had me amased at the choreography and surprised that the electric toothbrush is so old..and wot an electric hair brush? Tell me that's a prop. I've lived under a rock! 😊
actually it is a massager
No! It was the ‘old-fashioned’ Water Pik I was astounded at - I’ve only just bought one last year - sheesh 😁
This was a great savvy film. Loved the décor, the women’s clothes - especially Ms Reynolds’ and the story line. Good cast. Excellent entertainment.
I liked the movie, especially the scene where all the exes were introduced with their children. Nothing much has changed
Like watching a replay of my parents’ marriage…fun times…the fifties!!!
Interesting, this was written by Norman Lear who paid his wife Frances $112 million in a divorce settlement in ‘83!
$112 million? O.M.G.
Cool 😎 info,
Norman Lear is 100 years old!
@@kayingram29
But, in 1983 he was only 61 years old. So his young former wife made out like a bandit.
@@billgreen1861 Depends, did she contribute to the making of that wealth? Etc etc. Maybe he beat her, in that case she definitely earned it.
Divorce is such a painful and destructive event. I feel the institution of marriage is in trouble. Marriage can be wonderful. These days there are so many threats to having a good marriage. Love can be complicated and interesting. To all married couples may God give you grace, strength and love for God and each other. For those who desire to be married have fun looking, be observant be honest with yourself of what you want and choose carefully.
Marriage can be wonderful but it clearly is not for most people. Stay away from marriage and you will be much happier.
Every teenage boy should watch this. It is true that the system favors the wife. Don't get married until you find the true "till death do you part".
A double cheeseburger, fries & a coke for 67 cents!?
From 1967 to 2007 multiply everything by 10 .
$49,000. House in 1967.
$490,000. House in 2007
Truly a bite out of Reality. I really enjoyed it. Sad but so true.
Script by Norman Lear. Says it all. The beginning of the end of the American dream. 😂
I'm struck by how this film "normalizes " divorce in the 60's. Divorce was anything BUT normal at that time. Really shows how Hollywood affects the culture.
So true. I grew up in the 70’s & no one I knew from our neighborhood or relatives was divorced. It fact is was a bit of a scandal when it happened to the couple across the street.
That's absolutely true and awful, hollyweired definitely made it "funny" light of it, acceptable, worst was when two boys just stated that "that's normal", to have divorced parents, and three of them were joking about being traumatized.... sickening really.... destruction of family, ahhh how hilarious....
@@hudsony777 It is shocking how normal it became. When my neighbors niece started first grade the teacher became aware that out of 23 kids, 10 were from single families. This is a predominately white UMC area in SE PA. Around 2000. They had little group meetings for them at lunch.
@Bachelor Bookbinder it's tragic, so tragic
Roger Evert has said that the director tried to highlight the reality of egotistical people.
How americans were becoming more and more fond of material goods abandoning family values whenever they interfered with their quest for the commodities the consummist society was instilling on them.
This was funny and overwhelming at the same time when I saw it back 55 years ago.
Gosh!! More that half a century ago - that sounds even more terrifying!!! Where all these years went? Where were we before we came here? 😮
"Men don't grow up, they just grow old". 😂
Thanks for the upload. This film was directed with flair & originality also, it was cast really well. I've never heard of this film before today. I really enjoyed it, I thought it was going in a predictable direction then it switched. Although it appeared to be a comedy, it raised some serious points about people's perception of marriage, so maybe it was a dark satire. Debbie Reynolds & Dick Van Dyke are a great pairing, it's a shame they didn't work together more.
I watched to remember all the stage sets. I was a child when this was made.
Thank you for uploading. I've been wanting to watch this for years!
😉😉😉😉😉
I've seen this several times over the years. It's sad but funny at the same time. Jason Robards is a nut! LoL
I've never seen Debbie Reyolds in smart clothes and current hairstyles before this movie. She always dressed sort of frumpy and old, even when young. She looks so much prettier and more youthful.
Yes, she looks very pretty here!
Thinking 💭the same here 🤔 she's pretty 😍
@@jackdarbyshire5888 Yes and the smarter styling makes her look so different, almost not Debbie Reyolds.
Interesting - DR criticises the clothes in her book - some female in charge who's assistant was Bob Mackie (who gets credit on the credits) - DR said she didn't know where the money went and they looked as if they were n off the rack from JC Penny. Haven't watched fully yet to make up my own mind.
Yes that's how she made it to stardom.."looking frumpy get real hey?!!
The opening is a Classic!
COVID sure changed all the touchy/feely aspects of social get-togethers. I also never stopped for a pay-as-you-go quicky in 40 years (never before or since my wife died). Why stop for a hamburger when you have steak at home.
Joe Flynn from McHales Navy at the party & Tim Mathison the oldest son. He and Van Johnson were both in Yours, Mine & Ours.
I love this film! I’m covering every film ever nominated for an Academy Award on my UA-cam channel and I watched this for my 1967 retrospective:))
I saw this when I was six years old and remember about a quarter of it.
Das Beste an dem Film war die Mimik. Da stand alles drin was die Leute wirklich fühlten. Ohne Worte. Das ist Schauspiel Kunst.
One of my best films of that era.
I enjoyed this thanks for posting. Re- Debbie's criticism of her clothes in the film - (she said in her book Norman Lear put his wife Frances in charge of wardrobe and she was assisted by [and was hard on] Bob Markie [who gets screen credit]. Debbie said she didn't know where the clothes budget went to as they all looked like they were wearing off the rack from JC Penny.). Having seen the film I don't agree. I think her clothes in it were in the main - chic and Californian. The only slight criticism would be the lack of the mini -(for the time) - the skirts were very long. I think Debbie is more glamour oriented but overall the clothes I thought were tasteful and chic.
The mini was more 'youth' fashion in the 60s. A woman in her mid 30s at that time would've most likely been wearing longer skirts. But I agree with you overall - the clothes were tasteful and chic.
She is kind of snobbish then, the character wasn't rich, so she probably would shop at J.C. Penny/
As someone going through a divorce and custody battle currently, this was difficult to watch.
I remember seeing this at the drive in with my parents!!! oh my
Did they laugh??
@@UFO_computers sort of... it is a not exactly a laugh a minute comedy
@chris b. Me too!!
Although this movie sucked :BUT I loved seeing : Amanda Bellows , the clothes , cars , swag lamps , home bars , interiors of a vintage bowling alley, pinball machines , Hymie The Robot, one of the sisters from The Flying Nun, funky room dividers , A look into a VINTAGE McDonalds ! 1:04:53 Lee Grant , inside of an old MALL, Eileen Brennan ! And the Hip Hypnotist !
Almost better than Mary Poppins if you wish DVD was in MP more than he was
A great film I think James Garner is in this too if I remember
Thank you for being better than Netflix
It's also on Tubi.
Great scenes at McDonald's (the only ones that look like that are in Downey, CA and Pomona, CA) and at Dodger Stadium. Very cool scenes.
So nice that Dick van Dyke is still alive and well!!!49K house bless!!!Is that even a down payment now!!
The opening is great 😜
The wardrobe scene.
I watched this movie a year back. This is second time again
Very good movie. Enjoyed watching again.
Hilarious...but so realistic!
Anyone see the "divorce pattern & child domino effect" here? Lol. One marriage is MORE THAN ENOUGH.
I’ve been looking for this! Very cool 😎
Martinis at 7. Divorce at 9.
Thank you very much for old classic movies , do you have Gone with the Wind.?
This movie is on Tubi as well. Less commercials.
This stuff applies today so much. Nothing changes. 🎉
Wonder how this movie performed at the box-office back in 67. I doubt that my parents would have ever gone to a see a movie like this since divorce was not common at all in the midwest at that time. I'm surprised that Dick Van Dyke would have taken on this movie role. Vastly different from his squeaky clean image. Glad I saw this movie after all these years, although I'm left feeling really depressed afterward, LOL.
I am not sure how this movie performed back in 1967. But I do know that Debbie could barely get any job in the movies after this one. She got one more film three years later and that was pretty much the end of her movie career as a steady Hollywood movie star. She got parts here and there in the next few decades. Even Debbie remarked after 1970 no one wanted to hire her with the new wave of 70's films.
It FLOPPED. And Dick Van Dyke's career took a HUGE nosedive. Both HE and Debbie had to do TV shows in the very early 1970s - BOTH bombed !! Do you remember the New Dick Van Dyke Show in 1972 ? His wife was Hope Lang and it was an attempt to be "hip". There was an episode about pot smoking. But the "notorious" episode involved their daughter walking in on the parents "making love". (!). The network took it off - it may not have aired. I cannot remember the details . @@jackjules7552
I ALWAYS LOVED JEAN SIMMONS !!!!!
For many love and marriage is a merry go round. One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. Love and marriage is exactly like Married With Children and the Bundys.
Thanks so much for putting this up! I've waited so long
Lee Grant wore the same wigs in every movie
Great movie showing the simple adage: ‘the grass isn’t greener on the other side of the street’.
(Jeffrey Epstein looks like Jason Robards)
The younger son is Will Robinson from Lost in Space and Barbara’s first boyfriend is Mr Cunningham from Happy Days.
That's NOT Bill Mumy . He was still on Lost in Space in 66/67 .
@@LannieLord actors often worked on more than one project at a time.
Pat Collins the hip hypnotist!!!!!!
Luv All the Fabulous Cars 🎯
The only people who make money from a divorce is divorce lawyers. Even if both parties are financial independent you still both lose your joint income tax filing benefits and have to spend twice as much on rent and utilities from needing separate domiciles. If you have sexual fantasies about somebody else remember that 30 million people have died of AIDS and keep them fantasies. If you have problems being a self-supporting adult paying your own bills, expect to be treated like a child by the person paying your bills whatever your legal age may be. More than anything else you should try to understand what the other person wants and needs that may not always be what you want or need which gets easier to guess the longer you live with them and is always going to be harder to learn starting a new relationship with somebody else you have fewer shared experiences to learn that from. Been married over 30 years to a woman I proposed to a week after we met.
I have met several money hungry witches like this. I've also seen women decide not to ask for anything and their ex husband's spend all of their money on the new girlfriend's and shrug off their responsibilities. So divorce stinks no matter how you put it, unless a woman is being beaten and treated like a dog. Then I can't blame a women for wanting to get away from her husband. My favorite thing about this movies is I love that era.
Did these women ever think of getting a job?
"But that's the best part; I understand the mother DIED!"
Double cheeseburger, french fries and a coke, sixty-five cents
I was born in 63 and I remember the family all 10 of us piling in the VW bus going to McDonalds and spending 10 dollars for 10 meals!
Fun Fact: Emmaline Henry Was The Original Voice Actress Of Cinderella (1950).
All the warnings were right here, in 1967 and no-one learned a bloody thing.
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Topanga Plaza at 1:32.
Dick Van Dyke & Debbie Reynolds were superb as a couple in this very entertaining & informative movie. Divorce is really an ugly, demeaning, hurtful & nasty process especially for middle class people who cannot really afford it.
Classic Norman Lear!
Thank you very much.
What about these ? :
Sandra Dee - That Funny Feeling (1965)
If A Man Answer (1962)
I’d Rather Be Rich (1964)
Take Her She’s Mine (1963)
Genevieve Grad - Gendarme St Tropez
Doris Day - Pillow Talk
Do not Disturb
Claudia Cardinale - Blindfold (1966)
A fine pair
Cartouche (1962)
Ursula Andress - Dr No (1962)
Casino Royal (1967)
What’s New Pussycat
Raquel Welch - The Biggset Bundle of Them All (1968)
Fantastic Voyage (1966)
Fathom
One million years BC
Virna Lisi - How to murder your wife (1965)
Claudine Auger - Thunderball (1965)
Ann Margret - Viva Las Vegas (1964)
This is one crazy movie, cracked up when the fathers came for the kids, lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
1967 Buick Riviera
This is how the swinger lifestyle got started.
Let's invite young generations enjoy the inspiration and Remake such great production or at least, using the as best academic lectures of acting or... shooting or directing, or managing colours, it's easy now to hold a camera, having a story is a bit more complicated, but getting audience and seven billion dollars incomes like Avatar fantasy on cinema screens is still the most beautiful ambition above all, think about it fans
unfortunately it's movies like this that help keep the divorce rate as high as it is. I love Dick Van Dyke and Debbie Reynolds but I just could not watch this movie. It is very sallow and so is the subject matter.
Van dyke has always been such a hot hunk. He’s my kind of man ❤
Great movie.
Norman Lear was one of the best social satirists of the sixties. His masterpiece was All In the Family, a sitcom about a loveable racial bigot in NYC. But this movie doesn't seem to know what it's supposed to be, a melodrama or a comedy. It doesn't help that it's set in Southern California, but most of the supporting cast sound like they just got off the bus from the Bronx. It impressed me as being a sad movie about sad people trapped in sad lives in sad suburbs. But it was nice to see Debbie at her peak. I gave it 1 star out of 5, before it put me to sleep.
Don't forget the odd couple!
All In The Family was "lifted" by Lear from the British series "Till Death Us Do Part" and as for The Odd Couple that was Neil Simon's .
@@briandeeley1599 That was Neil Simon.
Yes you are right.@@LAFan
Marriage goes through ups and down and changes you gotta stick with it adapt and move forward together or hold the fort while the other person catches up .Good heavens Dick van dyke attractive in his white boxers how come their house is so tidy!!The 60's were over obsessed with the sex cures all dogma...
Clairol hot rollers.
Easy to see their problems, could have been worked out.
No COVID back then , with everyone kissing each other hahahaha. How things changed, the good old days have gone .
Ho HIV either, for that matter. BUT the winter of 1967-68 did give us the Hong Kong flu.
What’s a covid??
@@teresa67factoid95 COVID is not the Boogey Man anymore. It's 2023 . No need for this dumb O.P. remark.
Excellent!
Debbie Reynolds once said that she never cared for sex. No wonder Eddie went for Liz. But Debbie is more the norm than the exception. Women use sex to get love. Men use love to get sex. And seldom do the twains meet. But I still like romcoms.☺😜
The worst excesses of 1960s Americana.
The violin he started with turned into a bass cello and he couldn't figure out how to play it.
Looks like the housekeeper makes such a mess!!!😂
♾️ is the Will to keep Going 🫦
People here must be pretty shut off and numbed down to "love" the expression of failed marriage relations. This movie makes me want to heal, mature and love for real. The dear couple (as well as the others) didn't work with themselves, grieve and learn, at least not enough.And it is not an easy thing. It reminds me of the drama "Who is Afraid of Virginia Woolf", although those ar much nastier to each other tha n these two. Let us watch a movie where the couple works throuigh their things, change, heal and learn. They don't come often because few do it. And those who do are too busy doing it to have time for writing and filming about it...
49k house. 😂😂😂
Intelligent Movie
Can't believe they showed a McDs!! And Cokes-- nowadays they'd have to negotiate for a year regarding "product placement" as if these things weren't part of the everyday world.... And a whole meal for 67 cents! I was 7 when this came out so pricing wasn't part of my daily worries but then again salaries were also much, much lower. I'd watch this just for the cars alone.
@Wanda James and mention is made of the $49,000 house!
Nothin like these old flicks thanku
All these American movies. Where they ever shown on UK TV?
They were shown in cinemas ('movie theaters ').
From the 70s older American films were shown on UK TV.
I,m staying single!
Great Movie
This movie is a joke. I got divorced in 2003 and I got $100 per month in child support, The broken down car and the son. How it all changed. 20 years later ex is in a care home and broke and I am in my own place, drive a SUV and a Corvette. Collecting two pensions that I earned.
When you have to go a marriage counselor, it’s over.
I have to disagree. They do help. Not all the time of course.
If the counselor is female, man dont waste your time.
@@derhauptstadt5034 Name ONE real time a marriage councillor worked.
This has to be YOU and your wife or people you knew first hand.
I bet you, if you are honest , you have never seen a councillor succeed in saving a marriage , in fact they mostly work at ENDING marriages because they are trying to play " captain save the female" by painting the marriage as " unsavable" and thus the best option is for the woman to divorce and meet another man .
A marriage counselor broke up my marriage.
@@carolsummers8734
I believe it. It’s not that there aren’t a few gifted therapists out there (hard to find but a few do exist), but in my personal and professional opinion (as a shrink and former client), when a marriage gets to the point that therapy is needed, it’s already over and the therapist is just helping the couple accept the inevitable - that their relationship can’t be reconciled.
Happy, enduring marriages have a confluence of factors that enable them to nip estrangement in the bud before the relationship becomes unfixable. Those lucky couples are the exception. It doesn’t make them better than other people/couples; it just makes them uncommon and very blessed.
Did any of these wives ever think of getting a job?
Jobs for women were extremely limited in those days. The social view was that, and I quote, 'A woman's place is in the home.' Boys were brought up to get a job, whether blue-collar or white-colour, to be able to get married, have children and provide for his family. Girls were brought up to be mothers and homemakers.
@@typower9 Perhaps, but there were plenty of working women in the movie...the several women who worked in the bank, at the shopping center, in the nightclub as well as the female hypnotist in the club. Just saying.
Even if women did get a job, women didn't earn near the same salary as men for performing the same duties. It was even worse for African American women. Employers seldom viewed women as needing the income because in their minds, they really weren't supposed to be working to support themselves unless they were fresh high school/college graduates. Then there was the problem of sexual harassment a divorced woman faced because men believed they were easier prey.
Is this the Gidgit house?
The Hazel & Gidgit house. Possibly the Christmas Vaca house as well 🎄
at 7:40... he says he's paying the housekeeper 250$ a month. Wow, have things ever changed, huh? today, it'd cost u 200$/day for a housekeeper. People just seemed to be much happier in that time than today. Life was so much easier i am sure.
asian women work as long (2yr) contract 'housekeepers' all around the globe for $250-$450mo. right now.
@@talpark8796 I live in Montreal, Canada and the going rate here for a housekeeper is 18$/hr. Some of these big agencies charge 30$/hr for a visit to your home. So if they come for 8 hrs and clean your house, they get 240$/day. I guess prices are different in other countries.
Well rents quadrupled and their are 625 Billionaires in America while only 60 in the 80s and a dozen in the 40s. Trickle up theory, the rich get richer and everyone thinks min wage should remain the same, all 624 Oligarchs that call Americans lazy and entitled
@@claude878878 your house must be very messy and big if it takes 8 h to clean😊. I live in Montreal and I have housekeeper coming twice a month for 60 $/ 4h. So I pay 120$ a month !
@@Haechi-v6y u must've got her from Craigslist or Kijiji. u can get them for 12/hr cash. they are desperate for cash. I am part of an agency where i pay a yearly fee to join.. they send me a filipina lady with 35 yrs experience come over. not some girl who can end up stealing your money from a drawer. you get what u pay for. I've been robbed many times when i paid little for cleaning lady.
Mrs Bellow
I didn't know Luke's father was Robert Petrie