LG DualUp Monitor - The Best Retro Gaming Monitor?

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  • Опубліковано 4 лис 2024

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  • @cooltoy
    @cooltoy  2 роки тому +3

    LG DualUP 28MQ780-B
    Amazon: amzn.to/3Ttcj6H
    B&H Photo: bit.ly/3WXruYC
    Walmart: bit.ly/3WXrHuS
    Best Buy: bit.ly/3O2G4uc

  • @treepizzle
    @treepizzle 2 роки тому +10

    I’ve been looking for a rotatable 4:3 monitor forever. Egret 2 was just too hard to find. So happy this exists. Thanks for the find!

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому +3

      Glad I could help

    • @bluey2cool
      @bluey2cool Рік тому

      Check out the Dell 2007fpb with the serial number ending in "L" for the LG IPS panel. Might be what you've been looking for. It has worked exceptionally well for me.

    • @2kBofFun
      @2kBofFun Рік тому +2

      @@bluey2cool The VA panel is as good, and has a better contrast if you are Pac-Man/Galaga fan. If you want to be certain about IPS, you can also hunt down a HP LP2065

    • @treepizzle
      @treepizzle Рік тому +1

      @@2kBofFunfunny. I have that hp. It’s what I’m replacing with the dual up. The hp is just way too small.

  • @gideonbraver
    @gideonbraver Рік тому +15

    If you're planning to use this with a PC / Emulation, its awesome. You can change your PC display settings from portrait to landscape. But be warned you cannot rotate the image 90 deg on the monitor itself - there is no such option in the menu. So its a no-go with upscalers like the RetroTink or OSSC. Super disappointing - especailly for the price. Nonetheless the image looks great, albeit its stuck in the vertical orientation.

    • @frediusmaximus1
      @frediusmaximus1 Рік тому

      For my current cabinet, I use a Eizo 21” 4:3 monitor. For this one I could go into the Windows control panel and rotate the screen to have a better fit correct?

    • @2kBofFun
      @2kBofFun Рік тому +1

      At this size/aspect rotation is useless. Remember Pac-Man, that only had a 19 inch vertical screen. In landscape vertical games stil are like 25 inch diagonal. What I do worry about, is that the subpixels are horizontal in the prefered orientation (landscape) and that looks pretty weird. Like you see vertical scanlines.

  • @fanglord13
    @fanglord13 4 дні тому +1

    Retro gaming was my first thought seeing this monitor. I have a Neo Geo AES and CD plus emulation setups, and would look amazing with arcade games.
    Another reason it appeals is that I can't really fit a wide curved or 2 x monitors, but I can go up.
    There is a Kogan unit that is nearly half the price and main difference is the stand so no issues going that one for me

  • @soggykid5580
    @soggykid5580 2 роки тому +3

    Speaking of monitors, I did the arcade 1up pinball 32" monitor mod this past week. Turned out great! I actually used a different LG monitor that is 2k 165htz. Thanks again!

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому +1

      Nice work! Enjoy the newly upgraded machine!

  • @GoldenGo_OSe
    @GoldenGo_OSe Місяць тому +1

    Glad I found this video, picked up one of these for 150 euros on Marketplace and wasn't sure what to do with it 🤓

  • @masterquake7
    @masterquake7 6 місяців тому +1

    This looks awesome. It won't fit in my existing cabinet, but I plan to make another and this is probably what I'll be using. Great find!

  • @markymark2689
    @markymark2689 Рік тому +1

    I love how good the colours look! The greens look so vibrant. The old arcade monitors never were in good condition back in the day, and don’t get me wrong as I still like CRT monitors.
    Also: CRT monitors need regular maintenance 👨‍🔧 and calibration to run perfectly.

    • @Showwieh
      @Showwieh 11 місяців тому +1

      what maintenance? My CRT runs perfect and I just dust it every now and then

    • @markymark2689
      @markymark2689 11 місяців тому

      @@ShowwiehSometimes you have to calibrate your CRT monitors. Most people don’t bother, but that’s what I choose to do.

  • @derekswitzer9624
    @derekswitzer9624 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome!! I just was looking into the same monitor… Great timing, and great review… I think this seals the deal for me!! 😎👍

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому

      Glad I could help

  • @gopooalreadyplease5842
    @gopooalreadyplease5842 2 роки тому +4

    Its pricey, but looks awesome for retro games. I will keep an eye out for an open box or sale on one

  • @masonmcderp2485
    @masonmcderp2485 Рік тому +3

    If my crt goes out and I can’t repair it I’ll get something like this. I miss the 4:3 days!

  • @JHeath5150
    @JHeath5150 2 роки тому +4

    I thought I was crazy when I spent $799 on the Razer Raptor 27 1440p 165hz monitor but honestly have no regrets. That LG DualUp looks phenomenal! Glad you were able to get it at such an amazing price. Great review as always Doug! 😎

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому +2

      165hz for gaming must look great!

    • @JHeath5150
      @JHeath5150 2 роки тому +2

      @@cooltoy It looks incredible. A huge difference from the monitor I was previously using.

    • @Ian-Omega
      @Ian-Omega Рік тому

      I got an Asus monitor with identical specs 6 years ago for about the same price. I think you overpaid for old tech.

  • @pyjama9556
    @pyjama9556 Рік тому +3

    Finally someone put some retro gaming content up about this monitor!!
    Thank you so much, very appreciated, so most of the time you’re running native aspect ratio on retroarch? Or are you stretching it to full screen? If so have you noticed any tearing or unequal scanlines?
    Many thanks regardless!!👌

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  Рік тому +2

      I bounce back and forth between true aspect ration and full screen, depending on the game. Haven't noticed any screen tearing or scanline issues.

    • @pyjama9556
      @pyjama9556 Рік тому +1

      @@cooltoy awesome, thank you sir!! Subbed and looking foward to checking out all your gaming content!👌

    • @Leonheart18
      @Leonheart18 Рік тому +3

      When review started to hit for this monitor I was wondering every fucking time " why nobody is trying retro games on it ?! " it looked perfect for it, yet only saw people trying modern games which is definitely not for this monitor. And today out of curiosity decided to check again and finally found this channel... now I decided to buy this monitor but I'm going to wait until I find a good deal for it.

    • @pyjama9556
      @pyjama9556 Рік тому +1

      @@Leonheart18 if you get it I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on it LH.👌

  • @retrolizardscustomarcades
    @retrolizardscustomarcades 2 роки тому +2

    Eventually when this comes down in price, I would def try to use this in arcades.

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому +1

      If it was cheaper, I would definitely swap this one in place of the other LCD monitors that I currently have in some of my arcade. Fingers crossed when the new line up of products rolls out for next year this one goes down in price.

  • @vespworks
    @vespworks Рік тому +1

    Awesome! Just bought one to put in my arcade cabinet. This is the dream.
    Do you know if it powers on with the PC?

  • @BiggggyD
    @BiggggyD 2 роки тому +2

    You always find the coolest stuff

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому

      my curiosity always gets the better of me

  • @AnalogX64
    @AnalogX64 2 роки тому +2

    Sweet review!! I will pick one of these up in the near future. My Street Figher 2 Alpha arcade monitor has a short in its controller board and I haven't been able to figure it out hopefully the dimension fit :)

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому

      fingers crossed it works out for you!

  • @theblowupdollsmusic
    @theblowupdollsmusic Рік тому +2

    This monitor is awesome. Thank you for sharing. Someone put this in a Candy Cabinet and it's epic. The video is on youtube.

  • @cloudycolacorp
    @cloudycolacorp 11 днів тому

    It's really nice, and looks good for productivity, but I've been too spoiled by CRT and OLED black levels and colours

  • @snkfightfan0187
    @snkfightfan0187 Рік тому +8

    I do not recommend this monitor if you want to use it for a supergun set up and arcade PCB's. The reason being is that the monitor itself does not have options available to fill the screen or rotate the image. This will be totally dependent on the android box, raspberry pi you are using. The image on this monitor is nice and no input lag that I could notice. But filling the screen on horizontal or vertical games using arcade hardware is non existent. Just an FYI for anyone considering a purchase.

    • @pyjama9556
      @pyjama9556 Рік тому +1

      Apologies for the late question but you’re saying this monitor does not have any stretch or fill functions in the menu?
      In that case my idea to throw a 640x480 image on this and stretch to fill will not work then!😞

    • @deckofcards87
      @deckofcards87 3 місяці тому

      ​@@pyjama9556I'm wondering the same thing 🤔 what if you use the Dualup with a RetroTink I want to know will it fill the screen properly, or no

  • @CompleteGeekTV
    @CompleteGeekTV Рік тому

    Glad you did this video as I didn't know about this monitor. Definitely something I'm going to get when I get some extra cash. I almost want multiples because of all the use cases I could us them for.

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  Рік тому

      I would buy many of them myself, if the price wasn't so steep. Hoping it drops when newer models start showing up next year

  • @Jaysson83
    @Jaysson83 9 місяців тому +1

    Now I’m thinking of putting this in my blast city🤔

  • @FunnyBunnyHelena
    @FunnyBunnyHelena Рік тому +1

    Hello! Can you measure the physical size of Dual Up, of the actual display panel size? I prefer metrical, but I accept anything.
    looks neat!

  • @treepizzle
    @treepizzle Рік тому +3

    Wonder if you could do a build video. Showing this in a cabinet, especially how to get vertical games to auto run in vertical mode (obviously expecting to have to reorient the monitor physically. Just referring to the game itself).
    That would be rad. Wondering if there is an option in coin ops or something.

    • @omegamanxxx
      @omegamanxxx Рік тому +2

      You can make two config files in mame/ini folder that will do this. One called horizont and the other vertical. You turn off keep aspect in the horizont.ini and leave it on in the vertical.ini.

    • @treepizzle
      @treepizzle Рік тому

      Awesome thanks. I’ll give that a try. Waiting on computer. My old retro computer couldn’t power the resolution this thing requires.

  • @frediusmaximus1
    @frediusmaximus1 Рік тому +1

    Great review! This is what I need to upgrade my arcade cabinet. Can you mount this to a wall or flat surface?

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  Рік тому +1

      Yes you can

    • @frediusmaximus1
      @frediusmaximus1 Рік тому

      @@cooltoy Thanks for the reply and confirming the flat surface mounting! Love your channel and have subscribed!

    • @2kBofFun
      @2kBofFun Рік тому +1

      It does follow that awful protruding beard-trent all monitor companies are following, so no flat mount to your glass sheet unfortunately. Maybe you can remove the plastic outer case.

  • @dragongamer2670
    @dragongamer2670 2 роки тому +2

    Yeah that price is a bit crazy - I would wait to see if this comes down in price

  • @markianclark9645
    @markianclark9645 2 роки тому +1

    No doubt about it...retro gamers dream monitor...all the inputs you need...price is bit too high for me like many of us here...and I'd probably have to pay extra shipping cost to England too...and the fact I'm very limited in space here...I use a 19inch TV 2xHDMI and VGA at low resolution...although this LG being taller means it's not as wide as a typical 28inch...probably more like a 24inch screen width...still a little wide...LG bring out a slightly smaller version at half price for small rooms with tiny desks...or I move to a more normal property

    • @sedgwolf
      @sedgwolf Рік тому

      Can bought from LG UK £465.00 delivered

  • @IanMartinScreenwriter
    @IanMartinScreenwriter 2 роки тому +1

    Are you playing the retro games via emulation on this or do you have the OG consoles hooked up to it. If you have the consoles, how are you plugging them into this?

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому +1

      Emulation. It’s far too much of a hassle for me to hook up my OG consoles to hdmi adapters every time I want to play them on a lcd screen

    • @IanMartinScreenwriter
      @IanMartinScreenwriter 2 роки тому +1

      @@cooltoy I use openemu on my MacBook which I know would look great on this monitor. I have a bunch of original consoles hooked up to a crt. This monitor is now on my wants list.

  • @ChristianCastle
    @ChristianCastle 4 місяці тому +2

    Wow! Finally a modern monitor for retro gaming. I love it.

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  4 місяці тому

      Glad you like it!

  • @Raffy92
    @Raffy92 Рік тому +2

    What about input lag with street fighter II ?

  • @granulardwelling
    @granulardwelling 2 роки тому +1

    That would be great for Playstation 1. Thanks for the demonstration.

  • @AlexandreSantosBR
    @AlexandreSantosBR Рік тому

    Should be great to play DS and 3DS games as well. Have you tries?

  • @GingermaneStudio
    @GingermaneStudio 2 місяці тому

    Hey there, I got my LG DualUp recently and I was wondering are you presenting those old games via PC or actual retro consoles? I wanted to use this monitor on for my Gamecube and Dreamcast but out of the box it seems you can't rotate the display? How did you get those extra options like at 4:59 mark? I'd greatly appreciate the help!

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 місяці тому

      @@GingermaneStudio I used a PC

    • @GingermaneStudio
      @GingermaneStudio 2 місяці тому

      @@cooltoy Gotcha! Thanks for the response :) great vid overall!

  • @frediusmaximus1
    @frediusmaximus1 Рік тому

    Thanks for answering questions and providing links. Do you notice any input lag with this monitor? Want to use it for mostly retro gaming and some new shooters and beat-em ups on Steam.

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  Рік тому +1

      I’ve not had any issues with input lag with my set up

  • @DiogoMarques
    @DiogoMarques 3 місяці тому

    How do you set it up for landscape with out a pc?

  • @CSIG1001
    @CSIG1001 2 роки тому +3

    i think i would be happier with a 42" OLED for a few bucks more. nothing beats bezels and pure blacks with no input lag

  • @vgundam21
    @vgundam21 Рік тому

    Awesome video! I'm really considering getting one of these monitors for a custom built arcade cabinet that plays only old school fighting games (like MvC and SF II) How do fighting games play on the monitor? Any noticeable lag?

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  Рік тому +1

      No issues with lag for me

  • @maheshbabu-fj3tx
    @maheshbabu-fj3tx 9 місяців тому

    where can I get those games ? what emulator are you using ?

  • @nunyabusiness450
    @nunyabusiness450 Рік тому +1

    So bummed that unico 26 never happened

  • @aliessa8515
    @aliessa8515 10 місяців тому +1

    I think i needs it

  • @sedgwolf
    @sedgwolf 2 роки тому

    Great video ! Can you please advise what’s the height and width of the actual screen in portrait mode ?

  • @PadPoet
    @PadPoet Рік тому

    Nice review. What's the input lag on these?

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  Рік тому

      5ms

    • @PadPoet
      @PadPoet Рік тому +3

      @@cooltoy Nope, that's the pixel response time. Tom's Hardware rates it at 68ms. Also found a Reddit thread about it. It's crazy high for retro gaming. Pity since I really liked this monitor.

  • @jaleru
    @jaleru 9 місяців тому

    5:16 What game is this? Ever since I got this monitor i've been looking for vertical shooters.

  • @fabianernestopacheco
    @fabianernestopacheco Рік тому

    There's no a good size LCD monitor with CRT resolution? 21 inches for example?

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  Рік тому

      dell makes a good 20" LCD, model 2007fpb with 4:3 aspect ratio, but that's as big as it gets

  • @pyjama9556
    @pyjama9556 Рік тому

    Actually I do have a question Cooltoy sorry as I can’t find this online anywhere.
    If I was going to put a 640x480, 800x600 or 1280x1024 native image on this, could it be stretched to full screen?
    Yes I know it’s gonna look horrible but I’ve got games that only run at those resolutions on a very old pc and was curious if there’s any scale controls on the monitor itself?

  • @crazyoldschool6342
    @crazyoldschool6342 2 роки тому +1

    Man I want one.

  • @frediusmaximus1
    @frediusmaximus1 Рік тому

    What gpu are you using to run this monitor?

  • @ABCD-iz3bl
    @ABCD-iz3bl 2 роки тому +1

    Neat product. But about 4 times too expensive for what I’d be willing to pay for a 28inch screen

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому +3

      Hopefully the price comes down when the new year rolls round and the new line up of products starts coming out. I’d love to grab another one

  • @frediusmaximus1
    @frediusmaximus1 Рік тому

    Is there a way to turn off the automatic ambient light sensor?

    • @2kBofFun
      @2kBofFun Рік тому

      RTFM. Most probably. Never had a screen with one that could not be turned off.

    • @frediusmaximus1
      @frediusmaximus1 Рік тому

      @@2kBofFun I read through the manual. It does not mention how to turn off the ambient sensor. That is why I asked in the first place.

  • @basiliobastardo255
    @basiliobastardo255 Рік тому +1

    waiting dualup to upgrade to 144Hz or higher refresh rate…..

    • @pyjama9556
      @pyjama9556 Рік тому +1

      That may never happen considering how niche this product is.
      Also they would have to shift a lot of units to prove its longevity.
      Would love this to happen though!🤞

  • @Jaysson83
    @Jaysson83 10 місяців тому

    I wonder this paired with a dreamcast🧐

  • @zannzabar5197
    @zannzabar5197 Рік тому

    What's the input latency on this monitor? I can't seem to find the info anywhere

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  Рік тому +1

      5ms

    • @zannzabar5197
      @zannzabar5197 Рік тому

      @@cooltoy thanks for the info! However, I’m wondering how bad the input latency would be with the upscaling on older games running on their original hardware. I have a few older games that could use a CRT replacement but am unsure about trying this out on rhythm games that were designed with CRTs in mind.

    • @jorgerst
      @jorgerst Рік тому

      5ms is the response time, not input lag.

  • @atulshrivastava2235
    @atulshrivastava2235 Рік тому

    @cooltoy i just bought this monitor, put it in my hs5 and connected it to Mister. how do i flip the image from portrait to landscape on the monitor itself - the mister doesnt have any rotation option

  • @videogamevegasYeOldeAccount
    @videogamevegasYeOldeAccount 2 роки тому +1

    CoolToy,
    Now this gets me excited for an Arcade1up House Of The Dead cabinet! This is the perfect monitor for them to source for it. They have no excuses now :) wait... Arcade1up... Waking up now :D
    vgv

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  2 роки тому +1

      I can't wait to see how the company botches that inevitable HOTD release.

    • @videogamevegasYeOldeAccount
      @videogamevegasYeOldeAccount 2 роки тому

      Cooltoy,
      Yeah, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that iiRcade will get the HOTD licenses, now that their machine is compatible with Sinden :)
      vgv

  • @TheDimeech17
    @TheDimeech17 Рік тому

    I take it this is only good for emulation of retro games and not actually plugging in old consoles like my ps1/ps2/gamecube???

  • @ebayseller6040
    @ebayseller6040 7 місяців тому

    ok so about 25" screen at 4:3 ratio?

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  7 місяців тому

      pretty much

    • @ebayseller6040
      @ebayseller6040 7 місяців тому

      @@cooltoy well I did the math here and its 25" only when its full screen at default ratio. at 4:3 you get about 23.5" visible. not a real breaker if I find a deal on it but $600 doesn't sound like a good deal brand new.

  • @2kBofFun
    @2kBofFun Рік тому

    Problem with this screen is it is really demanding on the computer, so no Raspberry Pi or thrifted MacMini to run your games here. The Eizo FlexScan EV2730Q is much easier to drive at 1920x1920, and because it is really square, and not almost square, there is no need to think about pivot either.
    But IMO best option is to keep an eye on classifieds and hunt down the golden era monitors on the cheap. Back in the days we had 26-27 inch 1920x1200 IPS/PVA LCD's with 100% AdobeRGB CCFL backlights, and those do 4:3 at 24 inch and 3:4 at 19 inch without rotating, giving you the exact size of original arcade CRT's, which had quite small (19") displays for the vertical games. They were made by LG, Dell, Eizo, NEC, so really good long lasting quality with backlights rated at 60000 hours.

  • @Joe-Rad
    @Joe-Rad 2 роки тому

    Little too pricey for me. For that kind of money I would buy a nice 4k oled.

  • @nicci_dee8292
    @nicci_dee8292 Рік тому

    how to rotate the picture ???

    • @cooltoy
      @cooltoy  Рік тому +1

      It’s in your windows settings on a pc

    • @nicci_dee8292
      @nicci_dee8292 Рік тому +1

      @@cooltoy damn i thought you can rotate the screen in monitor while playing real arcade PCB 🤔

    • @ChristianCastle
      @ChristianCastle 4 місяці тому

      ​@@nicci_dee8292I thought that too. I wonder if there is some software that does that automatically...

    • @DiogoMarques
      @DiogoMarques 3 місяці тому

      Yeah me too ​@@nicci_dee8292

  • @MichaelEarl
    @MichaelEarl Рік тому

    $600?!? That’s not gonna work for me brother

  • @tattoomaniacsalina
    @tattoomaniacsalina 9 місяців тому

    oh my god it's sooooooo expensive

  • @chubbstep
    @chubbstep 2 роки тому

    60hz.

    • @2kBofFun
      @2kBofFun Рік тому

      Ever seen a retro game that was not 60Hz?

  • @seva0811
    @seva0811 Рік тому

    $700 ahahahaha it's crazy...

    • @2kBofFun
      @2kBofFun Рік тому

      I was expecting 2K. It is pretty cheap for a niche product. I don't trust sub 300 displays anyway.

  • @Aliotche
    @Aliotche 4 місяці тому

    Omg

  • @jbarnett7045
    @jbarnett7045 Рік тому

    𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖒𝖔𝖘𝖒 😻