Good explanation Colin. I purchased one of these and sent it back. The age-old question: "what is the proper wood moisture content?" The answer is it depends on where you live and what the relative humidity for your area is. In other words, no one knows. Handheld devices are great when purchasing lumber. Years ago, I came to the conclusion that water/moisture can be weighed. Therefore, I take a single timber from the stack and weigh it on a postal scale. Mine has a range up to 86 pounds in tenths of an ounce. I record the date and weight. When it stops losing weight the wood is ready for milling. The scale cost $22. Works great and I have had zero issues.
Hi Colin, Nice moisture meter, but the one you showed at $479 is out of my price range. When I check the moisture on any bowls I've turned that were green wood I also weigh the bowl to check the weight loss as the moisture evaporates. Cheers, Huw
I was showing their flag ship model. Their line-up starts out at $300 new, but your can always fined used deals on ebay. Weight always works as a option, too ... thanks for watching!
Remember it's about matching the piece you've made to the environment it will be placed. Process of control of the raw material should suite the final environment. For example, a boardroom table could be subject to office conditions that are stable but vastly different than your workshop e.g underfloor heating & air conditioning. Compare this to a kitchen table that could contend with large variations in environmental conditions, cold nights, warm days and varied humidity but actually be more matched to the environment it was built in.
Cleft Bajone good point Ran into this issue when moving DIY mission style furniture from one environment to another. Found out that even though my shop is heated in the winter and AC cooled in the summer about 50 percent of the time the air in my home was way more drier.
Thks Colin for another great video, if some doesn't like this video please explain why you don't thumbs up, always the best info here with our friend Colin.
Great video. Wouldn't you know when I bought my Wagner, several months later they come out with this new line. Just my luck!!! My old style works great, just would enjoy some of the new features.
Thanks for a correction, Steve and thanks for watching. Yes, they're not for everyone ... but the price is always coming down on these new technologies.
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing. I followed the link and unfortunately I came to the conclusion that I cannot afford this moisture meter :-( I do own a moisture meter. It's cheap and it has pins. But it does a kind of job (as long as the batteries are not empty). About two years ago I watched a video by Matthias Wandel about moisture meters. He also pointed out the differences in wood but I did not understand what he meant with that in connection to measuring the moisture. After watching this video I understand it much better. Is it possible to recalculate the moisture content if a moisture meter has only one setting for wood species ("average wood"?) Maybe you could do some quick tests for us, for those who cannot a more expensive moisture meter (I guess I'm not the only one) For example comparing this Orion 950 with a cheap one.
Prices are always coming down on these and they should get more affordable in the near future. As a rule of thumb, an average 8-11% moisture should work with most woods. Thanks for watching!
@@knecht105 Thanks for your reply. Maybe I put my question(s) not right. What happens if you are measuring the moisture content with the wrong setting of the wood species? For example measuring oak with the setting of pine? What is the difference in moisture percentage (shown on the moisture meter display) in comparison to measuring moisture with the correct setting species of the wood (oak presetting on oak) and so on. Both for fresh (green) wood straight from the lumber yard and for wood which you have already longer time in your shop- That would be interesting to know.
Good explanation Colin. I purchased one of these and sent it back. The age-old question: "what is the proper wood moisture content?" The answer is it depends on where you live and what the relative humidity for your area is. In other words, no one knows. Handheld devices are great when purchasing lumber. Years ago, I came to the conclusion that water/moisture can be weighed. Therefore, I take a single timber from the stack and weigh it on a postal scale. Mine has a range up to 86 pounds in tenths of an ounce. I record the date and weight. When it stops losing weight the wood is ready for milling. The scale cost $22. Works great and I have had zero issues.
I just bought the Wagner 910. Thanks for video
Certainly is far better than poking holes in all the wood to be tested!👌
Cheers for sharing, mate. 👍
You're welcome, Bill! Thanks for watching!
Hi Colin, Nice moisture meter, but the one you showed at $479 is out of my price range. When I check the moisture on any bowls I've turned that were green wood I also weigh the bowl to check the weight loss as the moisture evaporates. Cheers, Huw
He showed the 950 but said he though the 920 would be perfect for wood workers.
I was showing their flag ship model. Their line-up starts out at $300 new, but your can always fined used deals on ebay. Weight always works as a option, too ... thanks for watching!
Great, I did not know that moisture meters were available. Thank You
So practical and worthy of our trust. Thank you.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I got stung on a slab which I believed to be dry. The money I lost on the slab out weighs the cost on the Orion. I have now ordered the Orion 950
Very Cool tool Sir an thanks for showing it. I need to get one !!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Remember it's about matching the piece you've made to the environment it will be placed. Process of control of the raw material should suite the final environment. For example, a boardroom table could be subject to office conditions that are stable but vastly different than your workshop e.g underfloor heating & air conditioning. Compare this to a kitchen table that could contend with large variations in environmental conditions, cold nights, warm days and varied humidity but actually be more matched to the environment it was built in.
Cleft Bajone good point Ran into this issue when moving DIY mission style furniture from one environment to another. Found out that even though my shop is heated in the winter and AC cooled in the summer about 50 percent of the time the air in my home was way more drier.
Thanks for the tip, Cleft and thanks for watching!
Awesome I like this I am going to get one
Thanks for watching!
Please do a video talking about stress in the wood too. Thanks!
Very neat device.
It sure is. Thanks for watching!
Nice meters Colin but way too expensive.
Thks Colin for another great video, if some doesn't like this video please explain why you don't thumbs up, always the best info here with our friend Colin.
Thanks for watching!
Hi..... What are you meaning 5 or 7 and will give you whirr when reach 9 is 9 effecting the wood 😳..... Thanks
Thanks for your tip I have a cheap pin meter you use what you can afford hopefully it's not off to much
Pin meters are certainly a lot better than nothing and they'll get the job done. Thanks for watching!
We can shake hands LOL
Great video. Wouldn't you know when I bought my Wagner, several months later they come out with this new line. Just my luck!!! My old style works great, just would enjoy some of the new features.
It's that the way it always goes with technology these day ;) Thanks for watching!
Ive been told you need to plane a section of the wood before placing the pinless meter on the board… any truth to this? Thanks.
Very nice muoisture meter Colin but a bit rich in price for me. BTW, you said "Orion 920" in the video. I think that you meant to say "Orion 950"?
Thanks for a correction, Steve and thanks for watching. Yes, they're not for everyone ... but the price is always coming down on these new technologies.
My legs are all warped.
No...
Not on my table. My actual legs.
I think I'm just getting old.
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing. I followed the link and unfortunately I came to the conclusion that I cannot afford this moisture meter :-(
I do own a moisture meter. It's cheap and it has pins. But it does a kind of job (as long as the batteries are not empty).
About two years ago I watched a video by Matthias Wandel about moisture meters. He also pointed out the differences in wood but I did not understand what he
meant with that in connection to measuring the moisture. After watching this video I understand it much better.
Is it possible to recalculate the moisture content if a moisture meter has only one setting for wood species ("average wood"?)
Maybe you could do some quick tests for us, for those who cannot a more expensive moisture meter (I guess I'm not the only one)
For example comparing this Orion 950 with a cheap one.
Prices are always coming down on these and they should get more affordable in the near future. As a rule of thumb, an average 8-11% moisture should work with most woods. Thanks for watching!
@@knecht105 Thanks for your reply. Maybe I put my question(s) not right. What happens if you are measuring the moisture content with the wrong
setting of the wood species? For example measuring oak with the setting of pine? What is the difference in moisture percentage (shown on the moisture meter display) in comparison to measuring moisture with the correct setting species of the wood (oak presetting on oak) and so on.
Both for fresh (green) wood straight from the lumber yard and for wood which you have already longer time in your shop-
That would be interesting to know.
hmm. what is metered? the wood surface of does it go deeper?
There are 2 measurement setting 1/4" and 3/4". Thanks for watching!
The most important thing for any woodworker to have in their ship is TEN fingers! lol
Knock on Wood ;)
Thanks for the review Colin! How about a video on setting up jointer knives on an old Jet. Thanks. Bill
Thanks for watching, Bill! I'll add that idea to the list of videos to make.
No Brasil isso me custaria 3,000.00 reais. Adoro ser subdesenvolvido 😒