Ice Machine FIX! Evaporator Plate Separation Long harvest cycle
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Here's an easy way to fix your ice machine at no cost to you. This fix can work for Ice machines such as as Scotsman, Manitowoc, Hoshizaki, and more. It worked well for me, hopefully you have some luck with it too.
You saved me a lot of money i was about replacing the evaporator thank you a lot
Glad to be of service!
I was about to call for the service, you have just saved me some money. Thank you
A technician came by our place of work to check the ice o matic machine and he said it needed to be replaced and I did the same thing and it worked fine!! Thank you !!!
Go team!!!
It saved my days of effort having to replace it, not to mention the cost of part and labor. Thank you so much for sharing this brilliant idea and it worked perfect for me.
Glad it worked for you! Take care
I've had problems with my ice machine for a long while, finally it got bad enough something had to be done. (it is a Manotowoc and has been good to us for many many years) It would often only drop half the sheet. Everyone seemed to think it just needed cleaning. After cleaning the heck out of it, looking up many solutions on youtube, and trying multiple fixes, even wiggling the squares to see if any were loose..... no luck. Still not dropping ice properly. Finally after seeing this video I decided to tap on the rows with a hammer... I noticed some rows on the right side (the side ice was hanging on the most) moved a little. I grabbed it with my fingers and was able to pull and push it in and out a little. I used your idea and tapped an X to 'crimp' it in place.... I was no longer able to move it with my fingers! I went through all the rest of the rows checking them for loose or gaps (ice freezes behind the gaps preventing the drop)
One added tip: I used an LED flashlight (one with about a 4 inch long wide array of LED's) and held it under the rows. If there is a gap in the row you will see the light shining through the crack from the lower level. I found areas on the edges mostly, but using the light I found a few areas through the middle that also needed to be 'tacked down'. Now my ice machine is working the best it has in years! Thank you for posting this!
So glad to hear that it worked out for you and the ice machine! I know that when I was searching for solutions there weren't many options other than replacing the Evap plate and it just wouldn't have made sense to put that kind of money into the unit. So this fix has done the trick so far and has been working fine for me. Glad to hear that you're back up and running!!! Stay frosty amigo!
Not gonna lie, I thought you were nuts! Did this to the ice machine I was about to take to the dump. Making 200 lbs of ice a day now! Thank you!!
Ha!! That’s great!! And for the record, not gonna lie, I’m a bit of a nut…but sometimes that has its benefits…thanks for watching and have a great day!
Still working?
@michaellawhorn9962 Yep! Still going strong 💪
@@ThisThat007 Nice ! Maybe going to try this on a machine with a 3 minute harvest & almost won't dump ice anymore. 15 year old machine.
@OcRefrig did it work ?
I am so excited to try this! I have a soda fountain at my home and I have been banging the horizontal slats back into place like every single day growing more and more frustrated because they keep slipping out and causing the ice not to drop and caking onto the evaporator plate. Thank you for sharing this idea! I paid $1,100 for my ice machine and did not want to have to do that again!
Let me know how it goes! Thanks for watching!!
Thank you very much for this hack. Saved my ice machine from the trash.
Glad it was a help!!! Happy ice making :)
As a commercial refrigeration tech who has worked on many a ice machines... I can say this is a secret to buy more time for your machine. I've done this in the past. You can also remove one horizontal grid section if one becomes too loose. The ice in that section will just be larger.
There are also magnet positioning hacks you can perform to extend harvest. :) think about it and it'll make sense
Hello and thanks for watching! It’s all about buying time, I’m interested in this magnet trick you wrote about. I understand the premise but how would someone go about actually doing it? Have a good one!
If I wanted to make much larger I’ve cubes can I just remove some rows somehow? I have the manitowoc neo. And I should have gotten the version with larger cubes. These small ones melt fast on the boat
What is this magnet fix
There is no magnet trick. Those ice cells are stamped and manufacturered out of copper. Plus the whole assembly is nickel plated. Once the copper plates shift, you are also eating the material used to fuse the plates together and the nickel which is highly toxic to the human body. Nickel to the ice machine evaporator is kinda like the non stick coating on pans of years ago. As long as the coating stays on the pan, life is good. When it fails and you eat it, that's when the trouble begins.
And I might add, if you try extending the harvest time, the controller will shut the machine down. Everything on these ice machines are controlled by timers and relays in the control board. I work for Scotsman. If you have any questions , feel free to ask!
Dude THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!!! I got that ice machine for free because they said it dont work! Same flashing 2 code.. my slats were loose also! I was about to throw the machine away.. i did the x hammer thing and holy cow it just dropped the second harvest of ice!!
My evap was going to cost me $1500 just for the part.
Once again thanks!!
Dude!!! That’s great!! So happy it worked for you....it’s such a satisfying feeling to fix something for free that would’ve cost $1500 at the least! Thanks for watching and have a good one!!
@@ThisThat007 came home and theres ice!!
It’s a beautiful sight to see!
I have Scotsman MV606 ice machine. Its continue shoving alarm red light. After evert 3 cycles. Because its take more than 3.5 minutes harvesting cycle. Production is very less. I have struggle 2 weeks to identify the root cause. Try many ways to find the problem. Finally I found this valuable video. Next day I check the evaporator uaing with a led light. each box one by one. I found many of the small cube boxes in between plates passing the light to next box. Because plates soldering is opened. I try the same way with screw driver & hamer. All the open boxes fixed with proper tight. Then no more light passing to next box. Once done it my problem solved. Ice making cycle 12 muinuts & harvesting cycle is just 2 minutes. Good production, no more alarming. Thanks for the instruction given by this video. Its really working with good benefit.
Fantastic news!!! Glad I could help. Thanks for watching!!!
This is exactly what I am having with my Scotsman ice machine. thank you for the video. I will try it out.
Good luck!
Just figured out after months of searching my middle row was sticking out causing incomplete sheets of ice to fall and block door. Going to try this fix today. Thank you.
Good luck!
Thanks for the video was having the same problem I watched your video last night and went out did the same as you and today it’s working perfect thank you sir
Awesome!! Glad I could help, thanks for watching!!
Thanks for your video I did that 8 month ago I forgot to say thanks but man I saw your video again and thank you very very much it helps..You save me 100 to 900 from this Lazy technicians that’s what it is 😃
Glad it helped you out! Thanks for watching and have a good one ☝️
I'm praying I have the same result everyone else is having, I'm update yall shortly 6/8/24 9:28pm. Edited 6/11/24 it actually did work my problem was probe was to close to grid, but the separated are holding fine thank you. 😁😁😁
Best of luck!
@ThisThat007 it didn't work for me, I noticed about 3 of the vertical plates separated, I seen a couple evaporater on ebay in China for around $600 new would you trust it?
Bummer! Sorry to hear that….what kind of machine are you working on? Sometimes you can find another on marketplace that is broken for a different reason and can then swap parts. Not sure that I’d trust a Chinese brand for this due simply to the fact that you can’t know/trust how it’s made and with what materials….especially for making something that you consume. Best of luck on your quest!
@ThisThat007 thanks for the advice, it's an manitowoc model ID0452A-161
thats freaking awesome. i braze it with some silver/tin and flux. it lets me get the back where it breaks loose from the plate as well. but will most definitely have to keep this in mind for the future. dont always have my braze kit with me.
That’s good to know that you’ve had success with brazing….it was my understanding that brazing wouldn’t work but I am certainly not a pro 😂. This trick has worked well for me, hopefully it will for you as well, have a good one!
@@ThisThat007 ya its more soldering than brazing. i use a brazing torch to do it. make sure you have it clean and plenty of flux or it will pop off. but i pin it at the same spots as you did just with silver/tin solder instead. tin bonds to tin well right🤷 but the do basically the same thing when they make it. except they only mond it at the back to make sure the solder doesnt bined up the ice. so u must make sure that there is not a blob that will hang up the ice in the grid.
The horizontals slats can be pulled off. You have to pull it from each side and keep it even on both sides. I’ve had a Scotsman’s machine that is missing 4-5 rows. Been running fine for a couple years now.
Cool!
what can i do to fix the problem other than a hammer and screwdriver with a long harvest cycle??
Going to try it tomorrow.. I’ll let you know.. thanks
Good luck!
Good video ! Cool idea.
Thanks!
I think mine might be worse, the opposite sides are popping out when I’m working on either side lol.
But it’s way better now hopefully it’s starts spitting em out.
Ha! Well, I hope it works out for you. Good luck!
you can't make it stick somehow??
We are having problem with 2 flashing it seems like it could be the two white sensors by the white door but it's a fine line between bin is full and the 2 flashing so maybe I'll try this
Those 2 white sensors tell the machine that the bin is full when there is a sheet of ice holding the white door open. Once the sheet falls and the 2 sensors make contact again then the ice machine starts a new cycle for ice. The number 2 error code in most machines applies directly to a long harvest cycle…that should be completely different from the “full bin” light. There could be a number of reasons for a long harvest cycle… But the easiest way to tell is to fiddle with the plates on the evaporator and see if they are loose… If so then this little hack will help. Either way good luck! And thanks for watching!
Gonna give it a try.
You’ve got this!!!
Hi sir wht type root welding for ice mould scootman ice mesin..my English broken sorry
Hi! The plate is welded and then dipped in a nickel plating tank essentially. Because of this it is not really possible to fix on your own. Best of luck!
Looks great for how long do you think will be work???
Still working!
I have problem with Manitowoc ice machine under counter..the ice doesn't fall and the freezing process takes a long time..then the machine turns off and must be turned on via the mode button on the module..help me please
Hey! Can you tell me more about the issue? Is it hanging up in the harvest cycle or is it timing out during the freeze cycle?? Let me know!
@@ThisThat007 thanks for feed back...yup timing out during the freeze cycle..
Ok gotcha….could be a couple of issues with that but the most likely in my opinion would be that the condenser on the unit is plugged up and likely not getting enough air through it to make ice any longer. Usually a pretty easy fix… You just need to get a decent HVAC tech who doesn’t rip people off to come out there and acid wash the condenser down. Shouldn’t be more than a $100 or $200 bucks and you’ll likely be back in business. Hope this helps!
Thanks good job
Thank you!
I have a manitowoc i bought used. It worked when I bought it. Now doesnt work when i hooked it up. The water goes through, but no ice comes out. Its a manitowoc neo (under counter). Do you think this may remedy?
You want to sell it?
How does the nickel come off these ice machines
Not really sure to be honest…I would imagine that it just kind of wares down over time and use….Plus those evaporator plates take the most punishment in the machine with the constant freeze thaw cycle.
Help me ..mine delays on deforest and indicate read light? What's solution
Commercial ice machine or residential?
Solid video!
Thank you.
My ITV ice maker won't shut off. Any suggestions?
Hello and thanks for watching! I’d say you have a faulty bin switch…just a thought
@@ThisThat007 Thank you, I'll check it out
Going to try it my machin3 is onoy 4 years old
Hope it works for you!
Thank you for your information because I have this problem long harvest my ice machine name scotsman
Glad to help
Ide like more light on the evaporator and an example of what showing you did. It's my understanding Hoshizaki are one piece stainless steel, so they should last longer. Most brands use nickel plated copper.
Hello and thanks for watching! The machine in the video was a Scotsman and you are correct that hoshizaki is a much better machine. At the time of that video I was attempting to film while explaining the fix and that can be difficult to do well:) The next time I run across the issue I’ll work harder to get the process filmed. Thanks for watching and have a great one!
@@ThisThat007 and thank you for making the video. It is good to know they are repairable. It was my understanding before I watched this one that they were not.
@@jpp9876 Yes, they certainly want you to believe that they are not repairable...They would rather you just buy the ridiculously overpriced replacement parts or throw it out and buy another machine altogether. I'm of the mindset of trying to fix what I have reasonably before throwing something away. I do wish that these companies would make their replacement parts more affordable. For that machine (in the video) if I remember correctly they wanted $1,000 bucks just for the plate. You could buy a brand new one for just over 2k. That tells me that they are just gouging people on replacement parts in my opinion. Feel free to reach out in the future if you need a hand on anything. Thanks again!
Bingo! THX:)
Glad it worked!
Rossco stopped 😂
He's a good boy!! Thanks for watching and have a good one!!
Would this work for a Maxx ice mim452, taking longer than 4 minutes to harvest