You know some folks have the mindset that if a vehicle needs repairs, it's a money sink and that allows them to justify a 800+ dollar payment on a vehicle. They also use mpg as a driving factor for getting getting a new vehicle. Let's use a truck for example. I'm a dodge guy so I'll use a dodge 1500 for my example. If you have say an 06 1500 hemi truck, paid for, your mpg highway is somewhere in the 14 to 16 range. A 23 hemi truck will come in at about 20 highway with the 3.23 gears. The payment on that 23 is going to be 800 plus, easy. But let's say it's 800. Your paid for truck will absolutely cost you more at the pump, but you are saving 800 a month. Instant win for the old truck. You could drive the wheels off that 06 cause you could put 800 a month in gas if you wanted to. Now, how about repairs? Yes an older vehicle will need work. If that 06 has 150k on it and has been meticulously maintenance, you still will have repair work to do. U joints, cooling system stuff, brakes, really a host of things. However at the cost of the new truck, just to have the thing in your possession you would pay 9600 a year. If you put 9600 a year in that old truck, it would be a complete restoration lol. Not literally but you get the point. There is zero benefit in my eyes to paying on a new truck. Now this is hypocritical, I have a 800 a month payment on a 17 power wagon. It's sucks. And this is painful for me to put in perspective. I'm going to go cry now.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2000 Suburban, 4 wheel drive, bought it in 07 with 150000 miles, paid $9500. It now has 312000 miles, just put new brakes on all wheels, $800. I usually spend about the same as you on yearly stuff. But the real story is a friend in Norman, Ok has a '99 suburban, blew engine last year at 620000 miles, put new crate engine and tranny in, still going !
Owning a vehicle is very expensive, whether you go new or 10+ years old. My thing is…….(assuming it is a quality vehicle), if you’re meticulous with your maintenance, odds are you’re better off with less computers, less sensors, and less technology, all of which add to the complexity and cost of repairs.
I love my mid-90s Nissan hardbodys definitely not pulling no big ass trailers but they're like tractors and you would be very surprised how much work It can do.
Years ago my office moved to a bad part of town because of a real estate deal that was too good to pass up. At the time I had a few nice cars and went from parking in a garage with security to out in the elements in the bad part of town. The roads were also horrible with potholes everywhere. I picked up a 99 F150 V8 XLT for $1800 with 190K miles on it. One owner but the paint was shot and it was dented/scratched. I put in around $2K for tires, shocks, control arms, ball joints, plugs, coils, filters, fluids, belts, hoses, gaskets, etc. New OEM headlights and taillights made it look 10 years newer. After driving for 2 years and not running into major problems, I sent around $400 to have the roof and hood repainted. The rest of the paint came back with a polish. What I noticed is how I quit driving my good cars 80-90% of the time. In the truck I was just so stress free. I had no worries about someone crashing into me, having it stolen, or getting it dented in a parking lot. Other drivers assume I am completely broke and maybe uninsured so they will stay away from me. Road rage and cutting off happens a lot more in a nicer car. Now I actually feel stressed driving the good cars. I put 30K miles on the truck in 5 years and it is one of the best purchases I’ve made. Worst case scenario of total engine and transmission failure is less than $5-7K to repair myself with rebuilt components then add decades of life to the truck if I wanted to keep driving it. If not having a car payment cuts years off of the time you can retire comfortably, it is worth it.
We bought a 2007 Chevy Tahoe LTZ 4WD with 115,00 miles in 2017 for my wife. It now has 234,000 miles runs great. She still enjoys driving it. I have a gasket for the leaking oil pan, have to order front axle seals too and will do it all at once. Just normal maintenance and common problems. Main thing for the DOD 5.3L engine is keep the oil changed. I would recommend these SUV’s for longevity and something that you can actually work on yourself.
I bought a 2004 Yukon XL with the 8.1 and the 4:10 gears and you are right about the “gallons per mile” it consumes but it tows my 30ft Jayco travel trailer with ease and has the payload capacity I need. Mine already had over 350,000 when I bought it so it definitely needed some repairs which included brakes and rotors all around, radiator, encoder motor, auxiliary tank fuel pump, motor mount, battery, serpentine & ac belt and tensioner, plugs & wires, stepper motors and bulbs, blend door actuator. I think the to do list will always have something on it but it serves my purpose as a tow/spare vehicle and one I can do a fair amount of the work myself.
This yr. from new Suspension/tires/hub bearing to windshield etc. I spent 4000 bucks [shop] to renew 24500miles 2001 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3l rust wreck free / it doesnt burn oil on my Dads old truck. Its a dream boat and Im so happy with it. Parts r cheap and for the most part I can now Fixit myself. Last steps is DYI paint job & u joints for the drive shaft Just in case.
Still way cheaper than buying a new SUV. I bought a 2006 Crown Vic PI $2400. Had 195k on it. 4 years later has 261k. Replaced oil cooler lines, 1 injector. Passenger window switch doesn't work at drivers switch but left it as it works at the passenger side. Did plugs and coils even though it didn't need it and replaced the front brake pads. Total about 2000 b/c I used Motorcraft coils ($87 each). Parts for these cars are very reasonable. Not buying a new car for 50k sorry dealers I'm out.
Driving a well-made, reliable, and simple older vehicles and having to do all these things still beats buying the junk they’re building today by a country mile. And even better if you do a lot yourself. I love my 2008 Acura TL.
I have a 99 yukon 4x4. I've done door hinges, cap and rotor, plugs and wires, fuel pump, full brake job, tires and valve cores, upper and lower control arms and ball joints, inner and outer tie rod ends, shocks, and sway bar bushings and links. All by myself. I service her regularly. She can get 400 miles or more a tank if i keep my foot light. I want a new one so bad, but this bitch is mine, and costs nothing to run! Nice ride, by the way!
Years ago there was a commercial about changing your oil and whatnot from one of the parts stores and it had these guys driving in a Yugo looking car and the air conditioner was throwin pennies nickels and dimes and quarters at the driver and passanger. If your vehicle is paid for you might as well keep it running was the motto
Got me a 99 diesel 2500 suburban with 230000 on the odometer she runs strong daily putting in a headlight bulb Thursday. First bulb I think. A few sets of tires a starter glow plugs fuel module heater fan switch gizmo and it really needs a windshield. Nothing to complain about will keep it going for another few hundred thousand with regular maintenance.
All sound great. I have a 2000 suburban that I purchased new. 217,000 miles. I wish I had known about Wool Wax or Fluid film, even RP342 BLACK. it has rust, northern Minnesota. But I think will last to 350,000. 😊 enjoy your vehicle.
Seems really reasonable to drive such a useful vehicle like that. 10900 not bad total cost, a new one would be more than $1000 a month, plus I don't think a modern Yukon will be running in 24 years from now. I have an older Ford Fusion, bought it from my dad back in 2015 for $4500, still driving it today. I'm not sure how much I spent for parts, but maybe like $2000 or something like that. I think its hard to find a better deal than owning an older car that is maintained by yourself. These type of cars are great for daily drivers, no need to worry if you get a door ding or scratch at shopping center parking lot.
Hey Nick, love the Suburban/Yukon XL’s. My father is on his 8th. Current is Yukon Denali XL 2018 with less than 40k miles. My 2003 2500HD diesel pickup costs me about $4000.00 per year right now. That’s either me doing the work or paying someone else. Back issues, lack of garage, and lack of knowledge. Just did trans lines and cooler. Man I hate gravel driveways.🤣 I think the GMT800 series is probably the best ever American platform. You should easily get 300k. Oh, must be originally a southern truck. Have a good one.
My daily driver was a 2000 sierra 1500 5.3, had 400k miles and still ran great.. Over the years, transmission at 185k, water pump at about 300k, alternator, catalytic converter, brakes, battery, tires.. Worth every penny.. What a great truck! Sadly it was stolen!
Thanks for making this video. I’m still driving my 2006 Honda element with 240k miles. When you mentioned the lift, Inhope you van do it. I’m sure you’ll wonder how you did without it once you have it. Maybe it will pay for itself over time.
They don’t make quality made trucks like this anymore this one you can put at least half a million enjoyable miles on it easily you will remember it forever
I drive a 2001 Isuzu Rodeo. It costs me next to nothing. Regular maintenance which is basically oil changes. Minor stuff here and there which you’d expect for a 23 year old car but nothing major.
I spent 5k, on a lift. 20 years ago. That damn thing has saved me 40k if you consider the time, convenience, and use that my family and freinds have gotten out of it!! Best money that I have ever spent!!
I have a 2000 Siverado, and an 04 Sierra. Both bought new. The00 has 320k on it, and the 04 has 370k on it. I have maintained both myself. Both are stiil very reliable, and easily serviceable. My plan is to go through both of them, as needed, and keep them both for as long as I can. I have friends thst have much newer trucks, but have nagging issues. Plus...the new trucks are SO UGLY. I regularly have people approch me about selling my trucks. Yeeaah..no.
Sir, you need to rethink the mileage, instead of 300, 000, try 600000 ! Since you replace and keep up your cars in good condition, you may get to 6 big ones !
Keep your receipts, now that you have done most of the glaring items, you may find that in the long run keeping the truck is far less expensive than new. I have a 98 Sierra 5.7 which costs me $93 a month including initial cost, tires, battery etc. amortized over the life. Until the truck cost per month what a car payment is... I will keep it going, coming up on 300,000 miles. Just an alternative.
@@NickMango Just a suggestion. When you do your next video... Calculate the total expenditures and divide by the number of months to get "your" monthly payment. Compare that to what a new truck would be and be amazed. Save the difference and when the cost of the old gets close to the new, use the savings each month you have made for the down payment or cash for the next. Unfortunately, most do not have the discipline and stay in the cycle of making car payments forever.
First Gen Toyota Sequoia might be a close value here. Slightly less capable, but very very affordable. Available in 4x4, can tow most anything you would reasonably want to with a family SUV, seats up to 8, durable, reliable, and CHEAP.
@@goforbroke2 I bought my 2004 4WD for $4,500 4 years ago, and pretty sure I could sell it for the same today. It has 270,000 miles and burns 1/2 quart of oil every 7,000miles.
O k I have a 2002 Yukon denali x l 1500 I bought it. With a 170000 Miles It now has 247853 I have Owned it ten years now I have replaced replaced the brakes one caliber. I have put new shocks All way Round I have given a routuna and changed two coil packs I repaired one of the brake light sockets I spent twelve hundred dollars on rims and tires I replaced. The brake lines cause they broke because of rust The owner before me Neglected to clean And maintain Is the truck's frame So i'm gonna have to retire her soon My mechanic Says she's still safe for now Button 10 years that's all I did to this thing.Other than an oil changes I'm thinking maybe I spent four grand In ten years She has the six leader She's still Purse like a kitten She's all Wheel drive And I love that truck
@@NickMango thank you for answer. I don’t live in US so I wouldn’t know about that. In Europe, if you want SUV or truck car your body in Japanese car. And in general, you’re happy for many years.
You know some folks have the mindset that if a vehicle needs repairs, it's a money sink and that allows them to justify a 800+ dollar payment on a vehicle. They also use mpg as a driving factor for getting getting a new vehicle. Let's use a truck for example. I'm a dodge guy so I'll use a dodge 1500 for my example. If you have say an 06 1500 hemi truck, paid for, your mpg highway is somewhere in the 14 to 16 range. A 23 hemi truck will come in at about 20 highway with the 3.23 gears. The payment on that 23 is going to be 800 plus, easy. But let's say it's 800. Your paid for truck will absolutely cost you more at the pump, but you are saving 800 a month. Instant win for the old truck. You could drive the wheels off that 06 cause you could put 800 a month in gas if you wanted to. Now, how about repairs? Yes an older vehicle will need work. If that 06 has 150k on it and has been meticulously maintenance, you still will have repair work to do. U joints, cooling system stuff, brakes, really a host of things. However at the cost of the new truck, just to have the thing in your possession you would pay 9600 a year. If you put 9600 a year in that old truck, it would be a complete restoration lol. Not literally but you get the point. There is zero benefit in my eyes to paying on a new truck. Now this is hypocritical, I have a 800 a month payment on a 17 power wagon. It's sucks. And this is painful for me to put in perspective. I'm going to go cry now.
I've been driving a 2005 acura tl since New and I can't imagine having an 800 car payment. I'd rather put that money towards investments.
And by the time you pay it off it will be a rust bucket dodge
@lifted0422 lol not if you clean your stuff hahaha.
What you just said is everything I been telling my homies till I’ve been blue in the face.
@@AmandeepSingh-ck9xdmy car only cost me 800 dollars cash
I have a 05 suburban 2500 8.1. 410 gears.
10 mpg avg empty overall.
4.75 towing, no problem. Just cant pass a fuel stop.
Honestly I don’t get much more with the 6.0. Never sell yours man!
@@NickMango never! Best suburban ever.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2000 Suburban, 4 wheel drive, bought it in 07 with 150000 miles, paid $9500. It now has 312000 miles, just put new brakes on all wheels, $800. I usually spend about the same as you on yearly stuff. But the real story is a friend in Norman, Ok has a '99 suburban, blew engine last year at 620000 miles, put new crate engine and tranny in, still going !
Holy moly! You’re living the dream and so is your friend haha.
Gmt800 Suburbans are going to be like DC3’s and B52’s: continuously rebuilt and in use basically forever.
Owning a vehicle is very expensive, whether you go new or 10+ years old. My thing is…….(assuming it is a quality vehicle), if you’re meticulous with your maintenance, odds are you’re better off with less computers, less sensors, and less technology, all of which add to the complexity and cost of repairs.
I love my mid-90s Nissan hardbodys definitely not pulling no big ass trailers but they're like tractors and you would be very surprised how much work It can do.
Years ago my office moved to a bad part of town because of a real estate deal that was too good to pass up. At the time I had a few nice cars and went from parking in a garage with security to out in the elements in the bad part of town. The roads were also horrible with potholes everywhere. I picked up a 99 F150 V8 XLT for $1800 with 190K miles on it. One owner but the paint was shot and it was dented/scratched. I put in around $2K for tires, shocks, control arms, ball joints, plugs, coils, filters, fluids, belts, hoses, gaskets, etc. New OEM headlights and taillights made it look 10 years newer. After driving for 2 years and not running into major problems, I sent around $400 to have the roof and hood repainted. The rest of the paint came back with a polish. What I noticed is how I quit driving my good cars 80-90% of the time. In the truck I was just so stress free. I had no worries about someone crashing into me, having it stolen, or getting it dented in a parking lot. Other drivers assume I am completely broke and maybe uninsured so they will stay away from me. Road rage and cutting off happens a lot more in a nicer car. Now I actually feel stressed driving the good cars. I put 30K miles on the truck in 5 years and it is one of the best purchases I’ve made. Worst case scenario of total engine and transmission failure is less than $5-7K to repair myself with rebuilt components then add decades of life to the truck if I wanted to keep driving it. If not having a car payment cuts years off of the time you can retire comfortably, it is worth it.
It really is stress free man it’s true. Thanks for commenting 👍
We bought a 2007 Chevy Tahoe LTZ 4WD with 115,00 miles in 2017 for my wife. It now has 234,000 miles runs great. She still enjoys driving it. I have a gasket for the leaking oil pan, have to order front axle seals too and will do it all at once. Just normal maintenance and common problems. Main thing for the DOD 5.3L engine is keep the oil changed. I would recommend these SUV’s for longevity and something that you can actually work on yourself.
I bought a 2004 Yukon XL with the 8.1 and the 4:10 gears and you are right about the “gallons per mile” it consumes but it tows my 30ft Jayco travel trailer with ease and has the payload capacity I need. Mine already had over 350,000 when I bought it so it definitely needed some repairs which included brakes and rotors all around, radiator, encoder motor, auxiliary tank fuel pump, motor mount, battery, serpentine & ac belt and tensioner, plugs & wires, stepper motors and bulbs, blend door actuator. I think the to do list will always have something on it but it serves my purpose as a tow/spare vehicle and one I can do a fair amount of the work myself.
My dream car! You’re lucky man take care of it 👍
This yr. from new Suspension/tires/hub bearing to windshield etc. I spent 4000 bucks [shop] to renew 24500miles 2001 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3l rust wreck free / it doesnt burn oil on my Dads old truck. Its a dream boat and Im so happy with it. Parts r cheap and for the most part I can now Fixit myself. Last steps is DYI paint job & u joints for the drive shaft Just in case.
Keep it forever man! 🎉🎉
@@NickMango yeap its my last Ride
I also have an 01 Silverado my grandpa gave me. He bought it brand new. Just rolled over 163k mile mark
Still way cheaper than buying a new SUV. I bought a 2006 Crown Vic PI $2400. Had 195k on it. 4 years later has 261k. Replaced oil cooler lines, 1 injector. Passenger window switch doesn't work at drivers switch but left it as it works at the passenger side. Did plugs and coils even though it didn't need it and replaced the front brake pads. Total about 2000 b/c I used Motorcraft coils ($87 each). Parts for these cars are very reasonable. Not buying a new car for 50k sorry dealers I'm out.
Don’t blame you 👍.
Driving a well-made, reliable, and simple older vehicles and having to do all these things still beats buying the junk they’re building today by a country mile. And even better if you do a lot yourself. I love my 2008 Acura TL.
Q: What does it cost to drive a 25 year old SUV?
A: About 100k less than a new one.
😂😂😂
I have a 99 yukon 4x4. I've done door hinges, cap and rotor, plugs and wires, fuel pump, full brake job, tires and valve cores, upper and lower control arms and ball joints, inner and outer tie rod ends, shocks, and sway bar bushings and links. All by myself. I service her regularly. She can get 400 miles or more a tank if i keep my foot light. I want a new one so bad, but this bitch is mine, and costs nothing to run! Nice ride, by the way!
That’s how you do it! 👍
The age old question...to get a lift or not to get a lift. I remember my father wrestling with this dilemma as well!
Years ago there was a commercial about changing your oil and whatnot from one of the parts stores and it had these guys driving in a Yugo looking car and the air conditioner was throwin pennies nickels and dimes and quarters at the driver and passanger. If your vehicle is paid for you might as well keep it running was the motto
Got me a 99 diesel 2500 suburban with 230000 on the odometer she runs strong daily putting in a headlight bulb Thursday. First bulb I think. A few sets of tires a starter glow plugs fuel module heater fan switch gizmo and it really needs a windshield. Nothing to complain about will keep it going for another few hundred thousand with regular maintenance.
All sound great. I have a 2000 suburban that I purchased new. 217,000 miles. I wish I had known about Wool Wax or Fluid film, even RP342 BLACK. it has rust, northern Minnesota. But I think will last to 350,000. 😊 enjoy your vehicle.
Seems really reasonable to drive such a useful vehicle like that. 10900 not bad total cost, a new one would be more than $1000 a month, plus I don't think a modern Yukon will be running in 24 years from now. I have an older Ford Fusion, bought it from my dad back in 2015 for $4500, still driving it today. I'm not sure how much I spent for parts, but maybe like $2000 or something like that. I think its hard to find a better deal than owning an older car that is maintained by yourself. These type of cars are great for daily drivers, no need to worry if you get a door ding or scratch at shopping center parking lot.
I agree there’s no better deal. Good luck with your car 👍
My 2001 Tacoma just keeps going! Cost me couple hundred a year to keep it maintained. Nothing major, just consumable’s.
Hey Nick, love the Suburban/Yukon XL’s. My father is on his 8th. Current is Yukon Denali XL 2018 with less than 40k miles. My 2003 2500HD diesel pickup costs me about $4000.00 per year right now. That’s either me doing the work or paying someone else. Back issues, lack of garage, and lack of knowledge. Just did trans lines and cooler. Man I hate gravel driveways.🤣 I think the GMT800 series is probably the best ever American platform. You should easily get 300k. Oh, must be originally a southern truck. Have a good one.
I wish I had a paved driveway 🙏🙏. Good luck with your truck!
My daily driver was a 2000 sierra 1500 5.3, had 400k miles and still ran great.. Over the years, transmission at 185k, water pump at about 300k, alternator, catalytic converter, brakes, battery, tires.. Worth every penny.. What a great truck! Sadly it was stolen!
That guy must have been pissed when he looked at the odometer.
Thanks for making this video. I’m still driving my 2006 Honda element with 240k miles. When you mentioned the lift, Inhope you van do it. I’m sure you’ll wonder how you did without it once you have it. Maybe it will pay for itself over time.
My wife wants an element bad. Hope yours makes it to 300 👍
They don’t make quality made trucks like this anymore this one you can put at least half a million enjoyable miles on it easily you will remember it forever
I drive a 2001 Isuzu Rodeo. It costs me next to nothing. Regular maintenance which is basically oil changes. Minor stuff here and there which you’d expect for a 23 year old car but nothing major.
Love those older Isuzus!
Only thing new cars have thats better is safety. Unfortunately almost everything else is worse though.
Cut out a trench in your garage, so you can stand up and work.
It might be a lot cheaper than a lift.
I spent 5k, on a lift. 20 years ago.
That damn thing has saved me 40k if you consider the time, convenience, and use that my family and freinds have gotten out of it!!
Best money that I have ever spent!!
2000 was 25 years ago.... wasn't ready for that one.
😩😩😩
I have a 2000 Siverado, and an 04 Sierra.
Both bought new.
The00 has 320k on it, and the 04 has 370k on it.
I have maintained both myself.
Both are stiil very reliable, and easily serviceable.
My plan is to go through both of them, as needed, and keep them both for as long as I can.
I have friends thst have much newer trucks, but have nagging issues.
Plus...the new trucks are SO UGLY.
I regularly have people approch me about selling my trucks.
Yeeaah..no.
day to day fuel consumption for GMT 800 2500 VS LC100. Is it the same? 6.0LS 300hp VS Toyota 4.7 ?
The 4.7 is about 1 mpg worse than the 6.0. So it’s a real good comparison.
Great video.
Sir, you need to rethink the mileage, instead of 300, 000, try 600000 ! Since you replace and keep up your cars in good condition, you may get to 6 big ones !
No lift for the Ram because of the camper height?
Even without the camper it’s too big for a lift in my garage. I only have 10’. Wish I could get another 3 feet 😩.
Keep your receipts, now that you have done most of the glaring items, you may find that in the long run keeping the truck is far less expensive than new. I have a 98 Sierra 5.7 which costs me $93 a month including initial cost, tires, battery etc. amortized over the life. Until the truck cost per month what a car payment is... I will keep it going, coming up on 300,000 miles. Just an alternative.
It’s true man I haven’t done anything in a while. I’ll do another video at 20k 👍
@@NickMango Just a suggestion. When you do your next video... Calculate the total expenditures and divide by the number of months to get "your" monthly payment. Compare that to what a new truck would be and be amazed. Save the difference and when the cost of the old gets close to the new, use the savings each month you have made for the down payment or cash for the next. Unfortunately, most do not have the discipline and stay in the cycle of making car payments forever.
Without a doubt.
First Gen Toyota Sequoia might be a close value here. Slightly less capable, but very very affordable. Available in 4x4, can tow most anything you would reasonably want to with a family SUV, seats up to 8, durable, reliable, and CHEAP.
You know, you might be right. It’s a better price for sure but same engine. I will research it thanks.
I see first gen Sequoia’s on Autotrader for sale with 400K+ 😂. Legit crazy.
@@goforbroke2 I bought my 2004 4WD for $4,500 4 years ago, and pretty sure I could sell it for the same today. It has 270,000 miles and burns 1/2 quart of oil every 7,000miles.
Yeah that’s probably 5 timing belt jobs haha
Poor people have so many problems but planning ahead is not one of the.
I stopped counting past $50k worth of throwing parts on my 05 Z71 burb
O k I have a 2002 Yukon denali x l 1500 I bought it.
With a 170000 Miles It now has 247853 I have Owned it ten years now I have replaced replaced the brakes one caliber.
I have put new shocks All way Round I have given a routuna and changed two coil packs I repaired one of the brake light sockets I spent twelve hundred dollars on rims and tires I replaced.
The brake lines cause they broke because of rust The owner before me Neglected to clean And maintain Is the truck's frame So i'm gonna have to retire her soon My mechanic Says she's still safe for now Button 10 years that's all I did to this thing.Other than an oil changes I'm thinking maybe I spent four grand In ten years She has the six leader She's still Purse like a kitten She's all Wheel drive And I love that truck
The only thing that kills these things is rust. They’d go a million miles in Arizona. 10 years though 💪💪
some of use have labor charges...so triple the bill
Yep. By Japanese vehicles.
Generally speaking yes. But you’re looking at the best vehicle ever made.
@@NickMango thank you for answer. I don’t live in US so I wouldn’t know about that. In Europe, if you want SUV or truck car your body in Japanese car. And in general, you’re happy for many years.
that plate say rusty spanner ? lol.
Rusty Spinner. It’s the name of a fly for fly fishing. But spanner is funny I didn’t think of that haha.
Fix it yourself -- still the cheapest option.
i hate driving smelly old cars. New is for me'
I hate driving smelly cars too!
Screwed in jersey and in new york😂
Definitely need another car for the winter haha