I like the TBM. To put it in simple terms, it's cool! It's quite a magnificent aircraft. The manufacturing, and assembly process of the TBMs adds to their "wow!" factor.
Love watching the mix of old world hand craftsmanship and modern CNC. The French have a long tradition of hand made sheet metal parts. The use of repousse to hand fit parts was nice.
The real shame is the TBM700 is a updated Mooney 301 that never went into production. The design was sold/given to Aérospatiale by then Mooney owner Alex Cuvalair, a French National. It started as a joint venture that Mooney was "kicked" out of after all the design info and tooling was shared. Mooney's have always been a hand made plane with true craftsmanship.
You are a "former Boeing employee" and spell center "centre"? And why would a "former Boeing employee" refer to "AAC" rather than "final assembly" or just "factory"?
First time I saw a TBM930 I fell in love with it. But I didn't know Daher was french and the TBM is made in my own country. However, I love the way they are speaking with our great french accent. I'm not saying that I'm better, but it's quite funny to hear it. :D
Oh yes, the still hold the type certificate for the Rallye series, and yes, if necessary they will make spare parts. But a nosewheel axle (just one small forged steel part) will cost in excess of €1100 plus taxes and has a 3 month waiting time, so it's not recommended unless you really can't get a used spare part. Ask me how I know :)
Ours had a hairline crack, and the offer for a new one was some €1150 plus taxes plus work, and 90 days delivery. We found a used one which was just 300 or so for the part and available within 10 days including the mandatory inspection.
The Frogs a brilliant and capable people responsible in history for an incredible contribution in inventions and their part in the industrial revolution and modernization of the world , and still excel in all areas .
Do you make those special propellers that help make the TBM900 and TBM930 the fastest turboprops in the air, or do you have them custom-made by McCauley or MT-Propeller or Hartzell Propeller?
Yea huh. Both great airplanes. Actually I believe they added a lab to one of newer tbm. Cant remember what model.... just saw it recently. But I mean design wise the look so similar. I was wondering if the original designs are coming from the same place
robo931 very strong American accent. She rolls her t' s and fuzzes her r' s. It's called English for a reason. Only the Queen of England speaks with no accent.
Since you all want to get weird about it, her husband is from California, USA. He was raised by a Japanese mother and Chinese stepfather. His French seems VERY lazy. She is Dutch, so apparently speaks at least three languages. ua-cam.com/video/JFh43wEz6-w/v-deo.html charlesaronson.com/wordpress/ www.gites.eu/en/user/34528/for-rent
I was also curious about that, so I went through her LinkedIn profile... she has lived at least ten years in SF, I guess that is the reason. www.linkedin.com/in/carolinevanberkel/
Good job one of my awesome employees James Holden Parris will be getting his pilot license soon I'm trying to help him manifest a TBM turboprop by Daher Socota so he can fly for someone like Jim Carrey or Oprah Winfrey I wish he could find someone like you to be a mentor do you have any advice for him?
A little disappointed with the negative banter on this video. I would like to think that my fellow pilots and aviation enthusiasts would have more couth than this.
I cant see why anyone would criticize this video. I as a kid I would pop the the pieces out of an Airfix model kit and glue them together. Now as an adult I can see, compliments of the internet, the real deal. I applaud TBM Manufacturers opening their doors to what they do.. I believe BelowMinimums is a Troll. (STEVEO would be disgusted by this accusation,as am I)
I cant see why anyone would criticize this video. I as a kid I would pop the the pieces out of an Airfix model kit and glue them together. Now as an adult I can see, compliments of the internet, the real deal. I applaud TBM Manufacturers opening their doors to what they do.. I believe BelowMinimums is a Troll. (STEVEO would be disgusted by this accusation,as am I) Show less
I agree... unless it is a very specialized, very high-profit margin one, factories in developed countries are doomed. Those fat cats have no incentive in paying French or British salaries when they can pay half or less in China or Mexico.
All Aircraft are over priced! Simple reason is your paying for all the R&D over the last few years, it's no different on a boat or car, they could be built cheaper no doubt, but a plane like TBM 850/900 has probably 1mill just from fire wall forward, the prop is probably 30G's there will never be a cheap Aircraft as long as it's being built w/the most advanced material at the time of production, just imagine if you take away all the carbon fiber, the high tech avionics, turbine engine, fwd /rev full feather prop, Retrct Lnd gear -and a lot more thing's you don't see, the plane would still look about the same -but you might as well change the name to PIPER because that's about what you would have, plus then a man with a upper class salarie might even be able to afford it! If you got it financed for 20 yrs, the average American will never be able to own a plane, you have got to earn the money of the upper 20 % of people to afford a Cessna 150 ,pitiful
A TBM is not a Mooney. Mooneys have horrible chromoly tubing landing gears that rust from the inside out. Yes, they break without warning, and goodbye Mooney.
I like the TBM. To put it in simple terms, it's cool! It's quite a magnificent aircraft. The manufacturing, and assembly process of the TBMs adds to their "wow!" factor.
Love watching the mix of old world hand craftsmanship and modern CNC. The French have a long tradition of hand made sheet metal parts. The use of repousse to hand fit parts was nice.
The real shame is the TBM700 is a updated Mooney 301 that never went into production. The design was sold/given to Aérospatiale by then Mooney owner Alex Cuvalair, a French National. It started as a joint venture that Mooney was "kicked" out of after all the design info and tooling was shared. Mooney's have always been a hand made plane with true craftsmanship.
Nice to see such attention to detail and quality work still being done.
Being a former Boeing employee, I love seeing this sort of thing. Could you do more AAC (airframe assembly centre) videos? That'd be awesome.
+Robbo
Do a UA-cam search for megafactories learjet. They show tons of airframe assembly and sheet metal work.
You are a "former Boeing employee" and spell center "centre"? And why would a "former Boeing employee" refer to "AAC" rather than "final assembly" or just "factory"?
@@deeremeyer1749
What a silly question. You do realize massive companies like Boeing have employees from all over the world right?
@@deeremeyer1749 Hopefully your intelligence has improved in the proceeding 3 years though I highly doubt it . . .
Love to see the apprentices still going. Three year Sheetmetal apprentice, three weeks in college & three weeks on work placement building TBM's.
The Rolls Royce of single engine planes!
First time I saw a TBM930 I fell in love with it. But I didn't know Daher was french and the TBM is made in my own country.
However, I love the way they are speaking with our great french accent. I'm not saying that I'm better, but it's quite funny to hear it. :D
you guys are making beautiful planes,
Amazing plane ; honored to be customer; working hard to buy a new one!
Big fan of the TBM 850. A very fine aircraft.
Great vid: I love [photographing] industrial/technological environments 😊
Cracked, or very interestingly randomised pattern floor tiles at 3:35 🤔😲
Tres bon travail! Continuez. Very nice job!.
Absolutely beautiful bird!!! I'd love one :-)
Thanks for putting this together - i guess you were on a working vacation....
Cool video man. Thanks for sharing
PAUL B, A mother nice video, thanks.
@ 0:42
I love the G1000 in that bike 👍
Oh yes, the still hold the type certificate for the Rallye series, and yes, if necessary they will make spare parts. But a nosewheel axle (just one small forged steel part) will cost in excess of €1100 plus taxes and has a 3 month waiting time, so it's not recommended unless you really can't get a used spare part. Ask me how I know :)
how do you know? Asking for a friend.
Ours had a hairline crack, and the offer for a new one was some €1150 plus taxes plus work, and 90 days delivery. We found a used one which was just 300 or so for the part and available within 10 days including the mandatory inspection.
In the process of buying one of these. Within the next couple months I hope. The wait is killing me.
Very cool video :-) I like the TBM series . And btw... Caroline van Berkel.. sounds very Dutch!
It's my dream and ambition to own one of these fine airplanes one day. Some day....
Beau travail...merci..pour l aéronautique ....merci madame pour votre anglais parlé. .car mr......!
3 months to build the airframe, 250 hours just to paint it? $3.5 million seems cheap now.
That's 250 _labor_ hours.
The Chinese could do it faster
@@esathegreat not really because the paint workshop is already working 24/7.
@@esathegreat sure, if you’re willing to accept a cut down om quality.
Another highly informative presentation, thanks. 👏👌
Never knew they handle air frames for embraer & airbus.Wow.
wow very fascinating I will go there sometime for a tour. also, would like to see the Pilatus PC 12 NG Factory
Wow. Well delivered great pant great video
Enjoyed the video. Thanks.
Veeery inteeesting vid. To see the people actually producing these marvels. But the vid ends quite abruptely no ?
Daher said "die- air" is new to me!
Still waiting for my TBM!
me, too... I didn't even order one, but I am waiting for it anyway
Fine lookin' turboprops!
the shell with all the bolts through it reminds me of Pinhead from Hellraiser :)
Those are likely Cleco‘s, temporary fasteners
*Looking forward to seeing the Cessna Denali fly*
2 months? Awesome!
The Frogs a brilliant and capable people responsible in history for an incredible contribution in inventions and their part in the industrial revolution and modernization of the world , and still excel in all areas .
very soon there will not be any frogs :(
Stunning....
Count 6:40, that’s what these dudes need on their long boards 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
riveting!! [pun intended]
Amazing 🛩️👌
Do you make those special propellers that help make the TBM900 and TBM930 the fastest turboprops in the air, or do you have them custom-made by McCauley or MT-Propeller or Hartzell Propeller?
Very intersting!! I was wondering is the Tbm and Pilatus 12ng related in some way? They look so similar. Tanks for a great video!
Absalom Mikkelsen but the PILATUS HAS a small lab, the TBMs do not.
Yea huh. Both great airplanes. Actually I believe they added a lab to one of newer tbm. Cant remember what model.... just saw it recently. But I mean design wise the look so similar. I was wondering if the original designs are coming from the same place
They should get rid of pwm led work lights. You could see it clearly on camera. It would reduce worker fatigue from eye strain
Nice place!
Caroline speaks English very well, nearly no hint of an accent.
robo931 very strong American accent. She rolls her t' s and fuzzes her r' s. It's called English for a reason. Only the Queen of England speaks with no accent.
Since you all want to get weird about it, her husband is from California, USA. He was raised by a Japanese mother and Chinese stepfather. His French seems VERY lazy. She is Dutch, so apparently speaks at least three languages.
ua-cam.com/video/JFh43wEz6-w/v-deo.html
charlesaronson.com/wordpress/
www.gites.eu/en/user/34528/for-rent
I was also curious about that, so I went through her LinkedIn profile... she has lived at least ten years in SF, I guess that is the reason. www.linkedin.com/in/carolinevanberkel/
I would like to apply for the wonderful lapel pin!
Ineke Mateman you can purchase any type airplane pin, you want
Okay, nice to hear, where can I purchase it!
What's the max positive and negative G certification for that thing?
Did you ride up on a BMW s1000xr?
Cool stuff.
Anyone got a spare $3.5mil you dont need ?
Are you aware of what accent that was? Hint, its not Russian.
Joseph Howard, some light reading for you. www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/opinion/communism-melenchon-french-election.html
where is the rest of the video...this is incomplete
Nice!
Wow thanks
A-OK documentary video
Good job one of my awesome employees James Holden Parris will be getting his pilot license soon I'm trying to help him manifest a TBM turboprop by Daher Socota so he can fly for someone like Jim Carrey or Oprah Winfrey I wish he could find someone like you to be a mentor do you have any advice for him?
Hmmm Tarbes Built Mooney I really had no idea 🤔
OSHA would have a crapola fit if they walked through those facilities.
I thought TBM stood for Tunnel Boring Machine...
can i get a job there
If you visit a chocolates factory they usually give you a couple off the line. A pity they didn’t do the same in this plant.
I now know how to pronounce Daher
A little disappointed with the negative banter on this video. I would like to think that my fellow pilots and aviation enthusiasts would have more couth than this.
Far more 'highly skilled metal workers' ...if they wore eye protection.
Looks like a "jack of all trades, master of none" operation.
that woman had a dutch accent ,........in france ?
The narrator visited the place but still still gets its pronunciation wrong.
you need me there, give me a job, please
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there's no air bus helicopter s!
When you come to find Steveo's comment removed. Gotta love censorship. You going to remove mine too, AVweb?
No comments have been removed by us. Period.
What did steveo say?? If you can remember?
I cant see why anyone would criticize this video.
I as a kid I would pop the the pieces out of an Airfix model kit and glue them together.
Now as an adult I can see, compliments of the internet, the real deal.
I applaud TBM Manufacturers opening their doors to what they do..
I believe BelowMinimums is a Troll.
(STEVEO would be disgusted by this accusation,as am I)
I cant see why anyone would criticize this video.
I as a kid I would pop the the pieces out of an Airfix model kit and glue them together.
Now as an adult I can see, compliments of the internet, the real deal.
I applaud TBM Manufacturers opening their doors to what they do..
I believe BelowMinimums is a Troll.
(STEVEO would be disgusted by this accusation,as am I)
Show less
I'm glad to see Avweb said they didn't remove it. Thank you for that.
Would never work in factory,, no future in that.
You one of these people who are scared of work!
alphasxsignal - Yup. No future, just years of same thing until you hit the unemployment line when they turn the lights off.
I agree... unless it is a very specialized, very high-profit margin one, factories in developed countries are doomed. Those fat cats have no incentive in paying French or British salaries when they can pay half or less in China or Mexico.
All Aircraft are over priced! Simple reason is your paying for all the R&D over the last few years, it's no different on a boat or car, they could be built cheaper no doubt, but a plane like TBM 850/900 has probably 1mill just from fire wall forward, the prop is probably 30G's there will never be a cheap Aircraft as long as it's being built w/the most advanced material at the time of production, just imagine if you take away all the carbon fiber, the high tech avionics, turbine engine, fwd /rev full feather prop, Retrct Lnd gear -and a lot more thing's you don't see, the plane would still look about the same -but you might as well change the name to PIPER because that's about what you would have, plus then a man with a upper class salarie might even be able to afford it! If you got it financed for 20 yrs, the average American will never be able to own a plane, you have got to earn the money of the upper 20 % of people to afford a Cessna 150 ,pitiful
Oh?
what's wrong with your voice, ?
Lots of muda
A TBM is not a Mooney. Mooneys have horrible chromoly tubing landing gears that rust from the inside out. Yes, they break without warning, and goodbye Mooney.
Big fan of the TBM 850. A very fine aircraft.
Very cool video :-) I like the TBM series . And btw... Caroline van Berkel.. sounds very Dutch!
Belgian, Flemish.
She's Dutch.
ua-cam.com/video/JFh43wEz6-w/v-deo.html
charlesaronson.com/wordpress/
www.gites.eu/en/user/34528/for-rent