TONY KHAN FIRES CM PUNK! | Wrestling Observer Radio
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez on CM Punk getting fired by AEW. Tony Khan announces he has terminated CM Punk's contracts with the company following an altercation with Jack Perry at All In last weekend.
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"Hindsight is always whatever." Dave Meltzer, 2023
that's so dave
what a wordsmith
Somebody embroider that on a throw pillow
Bruh 😂😂😂😂 fucking hilarious
very very dave thing
Thank you for petting the dog
Grow a pair.
@@DaveTheDopeFienda pair of testicles? So he'd have four testicles?
@@DaveTheDopeFiendhe had them removed😂😂
Dave's dog > Larry
I hope Dave doesn't end up eating some mysterious pepper steak...
“We were far to kind to him “
Okay buddy
Anybody seen the video of cm punk on commentary last year saying, “ jungle boy is the nicest guy, if you have a problem with jungle boy, you’re the problem”
Very wise Phillip
Aged like fine milk
I actually disagree. Jungle Boy was pretty obnoxious in all this. Wanting to use real glass first is dumb as hell, and then publicly calling out Punk and stoking shit... Obviously Punk shouldn't start a fight, but you also shouldn't beg for one.
@@MattAlbie it’s the common thing with Punk, adding gasoline to the fire. Page was wrong to include the workers rights line on Punk. Punk was wrong to shoot on him and at press conference and after Collision 3 weeks ago. Jungle Boy was wrong to say the line, Punk went nuclear over nonsense. Guy wanted to get fired or has real anger issues. Hard to believe a 46 year old man who has accomplished what he has, is so thin skinned. Challenging Nemeth to a fight? Going postal on Miz, for Miz taking a jab at him. Mental patient
That was during his jolly punk era. Don’t know what changed, but Punk was on his best behavior his first eight or nine months in the company. I guess it was the promo from that bum, Adam page, that sent him over the edge. I remember hearing page and thinking… punk is not going to like that. Page was going to far.
@@thagame7528all the stuff mjf said about him in their feud but hangman went too far LOL
It's gonna be wild when Punk hop on Colt Cabana's pod to tell it all, oh wait
If you have known Punk for longer than two days then he is probably not on good terms with you anynore
We got Ariel helwani
Don't worry Ryback will have him on HIS podc
Oh wait
He's going to put over whatever no-name podcast will have him on their show, because no one established will want to have him.
No problem. Chris Jericho will definitely have him on his pod...
Ooops.@@wilnich592
09/20/21 - arrives
6/2/22- injured
9/4/2022 - Back+Brawl Out
6/17/2023 - Back
8/27/2023 - gone
Not even 10 months on active roster: backstage fight
Not even 3 months back on active roster: backstage fight
That’s a Punk likes to fight people problem imo was bound to happen again
Right?? The company was a thriving juggernaut before he got there! Remember when he went off script with The Rock and the two of them brawled backstage? Oh! and remember when John Cena and The Undertaker, the faces of the company, refused to work with Punk? AEW was held back by that maniac. Give the keys back to professionals, ya punk.
@@sweetswaggerleeJohn Cena’s best match is with CM Punk lol and not mitb
@@jenniferjones8002 i agree! (I was just being sarcastic - Cena, UT, and Rocky liked working w/Punk)
Punk doesn't like to fight people. Punk likes to fight tiny people. There's a difference.
@@paulearl8203 He seemed okay with people he got on with taking shots. That was just light hearted banter. As soon as it was someone he didn't like, he threw his toys out the pram, spat his dummy, and kicked off.
Screwing up so bad that earth's biggest wrestling nerd Tony Khan, the man who chanted "CM Punk! CM Punk!" in gorilla, is willing to fire you before running back-to-back arena shows in Chicago
Angle and Guerrero had a fight backstage once.. they then talked about, got over it and became better wrestlers for it.. that's how real men get things done.. Obviously AEW are just soy boys that get upset over their 'feelings' ..
I think what's funny is according to Tony he feared for his life. So I assume punk was ready to kill him, for a shoot, and immediately after that, Tony sent his would be murderer out to the ring....and still had him go over 😆
@@bryan-still-a-poker-playereveryone trying to defend Phil keeps making it like Punk was about to physically attack Tony. What happened was his trashing with Jack knocked over monitors. Those can be heavy, and having anything fall on you can be very dangerous.
@@coltsfan354 "feared for my life" is not the same as a monitor falling on you.
@@coltsfan354 ironically falling monitors far less dangerous than using real glass lol
CM Punk’s guide on how to solidify and crush your legacy in 2 years
I mean it was the perfect encapsulation of his career in the best and worst cases, all time angles, mic work and matches followed by detonating as many bridges as possible.
Im pretty sure he will be fine, his legacy will forever be intact
He was fragile and injury prone but blame Jack and Hangman for the rest
@@jameshart1410yeah right 😂
@@jameshart1410and that’s a shitty legacy…
To me it says a lot that TK chose to fire him, and talk publicly about it, right before these shows. TK has bent backwards to keep quiet and keep Punk. For me that says that whatever events actually happened had to be bad. Think of how harmful making the move is to the company. Harms two Chicago shows, may tank a PPV, and risks a show that was built for him to anchor it. That says a lot about whatever happened to me but I doubt we will ever truly know. But it seems like this was the only move with all the issues that keep occurring since he came back. Really sucks how this thing went with how positive it began
This. I completely agree. TK is punk's biggest mark, he give punk 2nd chance and make a show around him. To think a person like that finally terminated you.. What a shame. It must be something really bad happen behind the scene in which we / public will never know
@@liandopus9922 no.. it was on the back of punk that he was able to get the tv deal. Eddie and angle had a proper fight backstage but they were smart enough to settle their differences and learn how to work with each other.. like what professionals are supposed to do..
@@liandopus9922 " TK is punk's biggest mark,..." this is the most important line that EVERYONE needs to remember. TK wouldn't have fired Punk if it wasn't THAT BAD. People should stop moving the goalpost and being dismissive because their favourite wrestler (CM Punk) isn't there. It's madness how people are still supportive of CM Punk when he was the central person that escalated and caused all the madness. I'm a huge CM Punk fan, but I like CM Punk the wrestler. Separate the art from the artist.
Tony Khan is a Clueless Mark and now AEW is Doomed to fail. All friends wrestling inmates running the asylum can't wait for this company to go under AEW and the Darkside of the Ring episode of this company's failure will be Gold. We all know the Omega and the Bucks had a hand in his Firing.
@kingslayer2999 You people are literally nothing but buzzwords, I swear.
Also…Khan should’ve Mr.Mcmahon’d this and made an interview and statement saying “Punk screwed Punk” 🤣
that's basically literally what he did lol did you even watch the show ?!
Or do an Eric Bischoff and challenge him to a fight at the PPV just for the lols
At this point you really want to avoid comparing yourself to Vince or inviting others to do it. I can't imagine that would cause others to take him seriously. Plus I think Vince is going to get indicted again eventually
Vince would have strutted to the ring to Punks music & told the crowd "you will never here that music again", then he'd strut back to gorilla smiling.😆
You got what you want Dave/Bryan …you little pretentious marks . How does the Elite ‘s ball sweat taste ? Back to obscurity you go aew. The problems were there before Punk . And there will still be chaos backstage long after he’s gone .
That footage of punk going at Tony khan is a nice 5 figure pay day
5? Bet you could easily get 6
@@smokeyjoe127 that's whoever buys it hopes they can get from the initial traffic before it's all over the internet for free.
@smokeyjoe127 Ain't nobody paying a hundred grand for that, dude. That's an outrageous amount. It's not worth that. Five figures? Sure, I can see it. But six? Come on. Not for a story like this. It's not like it's a Megan Markle sex tape or Trump dropping the N bomb or something
Was it ? lol. Def helped punk and wwe
We need more videos with Dave’s dog
Always a professional 😂
I'd rather listen to the dog.
@@HanaTheRussell to be fair to Dave, its not hard to do that with some dogs. I lightly pet mine on the head and it does it to her sometimes lmao. She doesnt care though as long as I dont stop haha
Like that family guy cut away
But isn't Bryan already in all of Dave's videos?
Remember TK defended and did everyrhing for Punk, when a reporter referred to Bischoff comments Tony Khan went nuclear defending Punk and also avoided people like Ariel Helwani when they ask about Punk
So for Tony to fire him in public while also saying he "feared for his life" it means Punk must have done something so bad that crossed the line and Tony said "enough is enough!"
I love Punk, but the guy is way to overly sensitive. If it’s not his way it appears he can’t handle a difference of opinion. Punk should have been fired a year ago, when he railroaded Tony K. TK should have fired many others. Jack Perry should go, based on him running his yap. He got punked, no pun intended. Punk must have flipped out, said fuck this company, and said I’m going out with a pipe bomb.
He probably also said "...and it's time for a change!"
@@1Smooth1Perry? For using online rumors in a moment that less than 5% of the crowd got (no one is actually on Twitter).
What’s the old saying. “Sticks and stones may break my bones. But words will never hurt me.”
CM Jock never internalized that message.
Ariel is a big fan of Punk.
I think he wanted to get rid of Punk but had no legal way to do so without paying out his contract which was millions of dollars. Then Punk did that dumb fight, and Tony had an opening to fire Punk for cause.
Well, I suppose this is how it always was going to end. CM Punk just can't let things slide. A damn shame though.
It does seem like Hangman, Kenny, the Bucks, and everybody else was ready to let bygones be bygones and move on and Punk just couldn't let it go. I do have to assign some blame to The Artist Formerly Known As Jungle Boy (TAFKAJB) for wanting to do a spot with real glass in the first place. Bruh, just use sugar glass it will look fine on TV and it's 1000X safer. Wanting to use real glass is just plain stupid. That said, Punk needed to be the bigger man here and it's clear he's incapable of being the bigger man.
He’s the most overrated wrestler ever
@@SebastianMikulecwhat?!? The bucks refused to meet up.
@@nonyabidness7911 The impression I got is that Punk might have wanted to do something, but the Bucks thought it was better to steer clear of each other (which may or may not have been on advice from their lawyers) and Punk took that as a personal slight, starting the whole thing over again.
@@SebastianMikulec Eh look windshield glass is actually pretty difference to normal glass. It's made specifically to not break into the kind of pieces that will cut you badly. Of course that being said Perry making a dumb in joke about it on live tv, wasn't exactly the most mature thing to do.
Dave's dog is like "Who cares, it's just wrestling...pet me mf'er"
Lol best comment
Dave's dog hit him with the ol' "...you know it's fake, right?" once they were off camera.
Phil Brooks let down so many people who rooted for him. He had so much goodwill. Brought so many fans back who hadn’t watched in years. That first appearance in the United Center now feels like a lifetime and feels so sad to watch now because it didn’t and shouldn’t have had to end this way. CM Punk is the Christopher Moltisanti of pro wrestling. If you ever watched the Sopranos, he was on top, made and should have been a success but he didn’t know how to get out of his own way.
That part!
Punk didn't do shit wrong to you bruh. The fuck you taking it so personal for? He entertained you, did his job and took care of business like a man. You have no reason to be upset
He didn’t “bring any fans back” look at the television ratings.
CM Punk has never let me down since he became my favorite pro-wrestler back in 2011 and he hasn't let me down yet. Not even now. Heck, I respect him even more now.
@@ChrisCothron-pg4bshe did bud. Let's not Mince facts now
People can say whatever they want about TK... but dude has a set to not only fire Phil before Chicago shows, but to step out in front of that crowd and tell them what he did and why... and turned them in his favor. Bruh a G for that and has may respect.
🛑
TK did that take buzz a way from Payback. Smart. Nobody was talking about payback
It's a lot easier to fire someone when they say they're quitting and they hate AEW the last time you see them lol. Tony does not have a set of stones, my guy.
As far as addressing the crowd and getting the story out, that was done to get their narrative out before Punk said anything after getting the news. That's it. That's literally it.
Nothing about this is impressive. it's all bad, on all sides. Punk looks like crap, but AEW looks so damn bush league yet again.
@@samismith8752lmao wtf are you talking about ? Bush league. Holy some of yall are just dumb straight up .
@@samismith8752 cry more
@@michaelpreller4025 have u been crying since punk returned to wwe ?
If i'm playing psychologist, i dont think punk ever got over being clowned in the ufc. He seems absurdly desperate to prove he's a tough guy
Quite possible ...thats a really good analysis
nah it not the ufc. he never got over gettin his ass handed to him by teddy hart. that where all the conflict first started. after that he always wanted to be the tougher guy and start picking fights in every company he work for. vince, hhh, ryback, cena and the list goes on and goes even before all the stuff in aew.
@@demoth I remember hearing about that years ago. Punk basically turned into Teddy Hart but with success.
A moment of silence for Punk's sycophants and zealots during this hard time.
"When the entire world starts to smell like shit, check your shoes."
The only time the world smells like shit is every Wednesday night from 8-10
@@StevenRowcliffe well, now we got a clue as to who may (or may not) be living rent-free in your head. 🤔
Update: Profile join date checks out.
@@StevenRowcliffecry about it
Aww go superkick a door ya dork
I have never seen fans of a wrestling promotion so happy that the biggest draw and merch mover was fired with literally nobody on the roster with the starpower to replace him.
And that is why this promotion will have the same 800,000 people tune in every week and it will never grow.
All the lawyers and important people in the company recomended to fire the guy, but Punk fans will still say everyone is a child and he's the only adult in wrestling.
You can always tell who the Cornette marks are because they just repeat whatever he tells them. It's sad that people can't think critically and wrap their heads around the idea that their precious daddy Jim might be wrong but that's where a lot of society is now so I guess it's not changing any time soon
The lawyers were looking for justification to fire with cause. That’s all they were there for
@@thagame7528 this time, I can only imagine how many times they had to work on something involving Punk, this was just the last straw.
Punk worked with children
CM Punk is fired coming up to the one year anniversary of the Gripe Bomb at All Out 2022.
How about now?
I was for Punks return... but the man let me way down.
Agreed. My best friends favorite wrestler in 2021 was cm punk. Not anymore. He lost our respect a year ago. Good riddance
Indeed
Same, I'm so bummed about all this. Punk let us all down.
Aew let you down. Punk taught you to put shit talkers in their place.
@@dlinekidd93 Dave Meltzer brain washed u lol
CM Punk was always going to be a volatile person in the organization. I think Tony Khan believed that they could work together, and for a while it appeared to be the case. However, CM punk is not a good culture fit for AEW. He may not be a good culture fit for any major wrestling company. Perhaps he should have been wrestling the last 7 years, and learn to work with all these younger, up and coming talents. But his temperament, apparent anger management issues, and inability to process setbacks, at least publicly, just cost him his best job of the last 5 years.
Yes! We need to get all those violent trouble-makers out of the hall of fame! Like, Harley Race, and Dr. Jerry Graham, and Randy Savage, and The Undertaker, and Hacksaw Duggan, and Karl Gotch, and Jerry Jarrett, and the Steiners, and Jerry Lawler, and Frank Gotch, and Andre the Giant, and Arn Anderson, and Danny Hodge, and Paul Orndorff, and Larry Hennig, and Verne Gagne, and Lou Thesz, and Gene LeBell, and Strangler Lewis, and the Road Warriors...
@@sweetswaggerlee are you on crack?
@@sweetswaggerlee There is a discussion to be had here.
However.. There are a high amount of individuals within society today, who are incapable of engaging in discussion.
There is a giant difference between
the comment section of a video discussing economics/investments
&
the comment section of a video discussing Pro-Wrestling/Main Stream Entertainment.
Knowledge & Economic Class are key factors here.
@@TheHardys01 Totally agree! And Warner made the best decision. Punk was doomed from the jump - pro wrestling is one of the last remaining carnie acts; I'm not sure billion dollar media conglomerates can manage the talent. Bill Watts fired anyone who *couldn't* win a bar fight. That's a key reason how Vince survived and WCW imploded (Bischoff had a deal but Turner execs wanted no part of wrestling anymore). The wrestling a lot of us grew up on is gone. And Punk is a relic of that generation. I just wish the talent could have talked it out - TK is in over his head.
@@sweetswaggerleeYou are on point. The generation gap that exists is hard to overcome by just throwing everyone into the mix without strong management in place.
This is why some semblance of a training facility is important because it creates a culture among the new/older talents and gets them all used to working within parameters set by the office.
The fact that there are people still defending this behavior is borderline sociopathic.
Some wrestling fans are absolute losers and a chunk of them the types who end up just like Punk. Getting kicked to the curb because they're soft and can't handle their emotions.
Punk has always been subject to people antagonizing him because they “just don’t like him”.
Do you even know what a fucking sociopath is? Clearly you don't
They're adults still wishing they had the feeling of being an invincible badass when they were 13. The feeling Punk gave them back then. They're just afraid to grow up.
@@coltsfan354Do you think Jack and Hangman are adults?
@@djdarq6311 Yes. I don't understand the question.
This aged like milk
Dave's dog is so expressive
He was always gonna be a ticking time tomb and of course he decides to go off at their biggest show ever
...and on the guy who literally made a TV show for him.
@@billywashere6965 Collision was requested by the network who wanted a big star to be an exclusive there, suggesting Punk.
But hey, don't let a good shit slinging story get in the way of the truth.
Aged like milk.
It's sad that something that started so incredibly bright and was a genuine feel-good moment and full of hope for the future devolved into this. Tony bent over backwards for him, treated him like a demigod, giving him everything he could want, and he was still a miserable prick and a walking powder keg. Punk is his own worst enemy.
Tony never stopped his talent from feeding bullshit to the dirtsheets. Floating made up or exaggerated stories making Punk look bad. He could have handled it better but being gaslighted by your coworkers is a helluva thing to get over. When you confront them calmly to find out who's leaking bs, and ask your boss to do something which he says he will but doesn't, it can set off a man with a short fuse, which Punk obviously has.
@@samismith8752; pretty much exactly the case. Short fuse, unwilling to take B.S. from people openly trashing him. And nothing was ever cleared up by management, so the guy exploded.
Punk had so much clout over Tony Khan. But his fragile ego just kept getting the better of him.
Jon Moxley is left to pick up the pieces of Punk's latest tantrum. Again.
Bryan Danielson is everything Punk claims he is. And doesn't create the drama Punk makes.
He’s extremely EXTREMELY self centered and thinks he’s his younger self still….
CM Punk is and always has been his own worst enemy.
If Punk actually tried to attack Tony, he needs to go to anger management or something. What an absolute psycho.
From what was published, doesnt seem like he attack TK. More like blinded by rage and just didn't consider the surrounding. Not any better since that mean alot of people would've gotten in the cross fire.
@@demothI will say it's a little silly to me that *production* people was crossing the line, as if the wrestlers being in danger around this maniac isn't already bad enough. Even if you're acting like Brawl Out last year had two sides to the story, the math equation already said that CM Punk was the irritant.
@@demothLatest report says he lunged at Tony but implies more than that happened
I'm not somebody who thinks most people should see a therapist but the guy definitely needs to see a therapist.
He needs to be sued is what needs to happen.
Punk needs to drop the straight edge thing. It obviously hasnt work well for his psyche. Dude needs some strong edibles and a mirror to look into.
CM Punk did this to himself unfortunately. He radiated that aura of being a diva. Instead of being humble and grateful, he made it about him. So I hope he learns his lesson and does better in the future wherever he goes in life.
It’s funny with him. When he was trying the mma ufc thing, dude was incredibly humble. He had nothing but good things to say about trainers. Opponents. The sport in general. Always spoke with the utmost respect of it all. In pro wrestling - not so much. It’s almost like he’s doing it old school kayfabe living his character.
So
The very first line Punk said when he came back was "I don't know if you guys heard, but I'm tired of being nice."
Well it turns out so is Tony Khan.
Please
TK was day late and a dollar short. He gets no props
if anything he showed hes still a nice guy by announcing egerything before the shows, everyone is saying that he shouldve waited till the end of the chicago shows but thats just lying to people
Dave and Bryan wanted this. Let's just be honest. Ultimately Tony is to blame for his lack of authority and leadership.
Clicks on there stuff about to drop big time. Love him or hate him Punk creates a buzz and media frenzy. Punk is a Icon in every sense of the word. Collision is going to go the was of Rampage....DOA
@@thequackpackattack9250Rampage dies very well for it's timeslot
Punk fanboys wont like it, but if its always the same guy surrounding drama that aint a coincidence, they also had camera footage and plenty of witnesses, not even mentioning that he was aggressive to tony. But im sure they will spin it in their delusion and make it about punk being the victim. AEW did fine before punk and when punk was signed half the time he was out cause of injury or suspension anyways so its for the good.
I agree but he had to go. There's no debating that this dude always had issues with others. He always felt that he was this larger than life guy and he's not. He always felt that he had to be some type of a leader that nobody saw him in. He always had something to say about everybody else guys who are quick to give you her opinion. You already know who they are about
@@flyguy7825I think it sucks that we are left with jericho moxley young bucks. Jungle boy lol. Aew is fucked without cm punk ftr
@@junior-corradosoprano9435 Bro they're going to continue on without him. And what are you talking about? FTR is still there and if that's your opinion that's your opinion, but CM Punk was more trouble than what he was worth
@@junior-corradosoprano9435unless they sign another big deal WWE guy.
@@junior-corradosoprano9435Punk was a drop in the ocean at All In. Not even close to headliner. AEW have an incredible roster who are absolutely killing it and they are constantly actively developing new stars.
Collision was great, with great crowd reactions. In Chicago. After Khan director addressed Punk's dismissal in front of a sore crowd.
Can't have been an easy decision, but it was the right one, for the sake of the roster
Five years on and we're still playing the game of assuming it's over for AEW at every setback? 🤔
They have the best AEW champion they've ever had right now. He's stepping up to the mark and filling exactly the time they need.
Dave saying he was giving CM punk the benefit of the doubt is hilarious
I thought so too. He’s team bucks all day
I have been a huge Punk fan for as long as he has been wrestling. I have loved his in ring work, psychology, mic skills and everything else he has brought to the business but I genuinely think he has serious mental health problems and it is so good for AEW and the business as a whole that he is gone. WWE should not go near him at all and I hope he gets help because in the end he just sets fire to everything.
i agree with all of that. fight with the elite, fight with jack perry, who knows who he was gonna pick a fight with next.
What are you? A psychiatrist now?
@@Soppy_kop2 You think I need to be a psychiatrist to see the man has problems? If he is mentally healthy I would hate to see what happens if he wasn't. I feel bad for him.
@@NZeroKurosakiThe Elite kicked Punk's locker room door in and broke out his dogs teeth. Punk didn't start that. Rookie nobody Perry was talking smack about Punk on TV for no reason. Punk didn't start that.
@@sandyunderpants4376lol stop defending him and blaming everyone...he has problems with Jericho,Mox, Page and even almost apparently fought Miro GOOD GOD stop defending him😂
Cm Punks run with AEW is some “ Dark Side of the Ring” material. Can’t wait for the episodes 😂
yeah. 1st episode: scary fighter fired for scary fighting.
@@sweetswaggerleeAlternatively, “man fired for physically attacking boss and biggest fan in the world” would work.
Punk's fragile ego never recovered from his humiliating UFC run
Next he’ll probably be making comments on meltzer videos…
imagine any of the elite trying out for ufc lmao. Better yet imagine Tony trying to control an angry Brock Lesnar...... BTW how u been feeling since punk returned to wwe ?
@@ericgarcia2943 look Eric, I couldn't give a fuck about the elite, but they could hardly do much worse lol ... But then again none of them have the wannabe "tough guy" pretentions as Phil.
@@ericgarcia2943 ..and since you ask, I'm really pleased that to get back in WWE, he had to bend the knee to Hunter & be a good little Philip. That's so punk!
@@colonelhyde2626 lol be a good lil Phil 😂😂 crazy how the person who was supposedly in the wrong is the only one succeeding out of everyone in the brawl out
😂😂😂
Punk might've won the pipebomb battle but Vince & Hunter royally won the war. Everything they said on Punk every promo every confrontation is instantly Gold. People are gonna watch those promos for generations saying Triple H and Vince were totally correct.
Both those guys are trash. I would kick it Phil before I ever would acknowledge the other two
Sadly, yeah. This was Punk's chance to prove them wrong... and instead, he proved them right.
It’s not like Vince is a great guy either.
Both vince and hunter have done worse, but ok. Billionaires and their family always "win the war." doesn't mean they're right.
That HHH promo to cm punk stands true even to this day
Weak cardiac was way worse than Punk
Guy literally buried everybody
@@thagame7528 if everything he said to Punk was total hypocrisy (and yes, maybe it was), he still did not tell a single lie, and the last year bears that out conclusively
@thagame7528 he did things in his wrestling eras to get leverage and all on many things but at least HHH is a much more matured person now and takes accountability and responsibility
@@TheStingOfDeath He gained perspective after the fact? Good. Maybe there is still hope for Punk
@@TheStingOfDeath Punk was seemingly on his best behavior thru the MJF feud, I was actually referring to Punk during those early months as ‘Jolly Punk’ cause Punk was all rainbows and sunshine. Then the Adam Page promo happened that was a total low blow that I said was below the belt. Things went downhill after that promo.
TMZ won’t let us down. I expect to see the footage soon.
SOMEBODY filmed the footage on their phone. Someone’s got it but will it leak
@@mrrobert9176 There's literally no need for that; there's CCTV footage of it. There's fucking cameras EVERYWHERE in Wembley.
Poor Phil, could never get out of his own way
Just as a story, if you made it like a mini-series or something about CM Punk, it would be genuinely tragic. A guy whose had so much struggle and then finally gets given everything he ever wanted but the struggles from years before kept him from accepting it.
HAHAHA RIP AEW
@@vlcheish its nice reading these comments bro. I wonder where are all of Dave's fans now
The saddest part about all this is that there are still fans that are in denial about this whole situation. They still blame the Elite, dave meltzer, Alvarez, Tony Kahn and Jack Perry for this entire situation. They justify every violent act and every hypocritical statement made by Punk since All Out last year. They are out there making comments about Punk going to WWE and cutting promos on the Elite and Aew. This is one of the saddest true stories about a talent who had such good will with fans for years. His come back to wrestling was one of the greatest moments in the last 10 years. All it took to destroy it was a vague critical in ring promo by adam page. Punk has lost alot of the good will he had with wrestling fans but some people will never see the truth right in front of their face.
Yeah? Who?
Just go to any comment section in the last year in any video on any wrestling news channel. Fightfuls live stream yesterday was full of superchats from delusional fans.
Couldn't agree more. Punks' whole AEW run was him being an absolute hypocrite. His actions were the exact opposite of everything he said it was so disappointing. He has clearly been trying to get fired for well over a 6 yet people will shit all over AEW and blame everyone else and take no accountability just like Punk...
Bro who cares it’s wrestling
@@reeseangle9621 Yeah that seems to be going around a lot since All In.
Cm punk is the definition of glass wafer thin ego. Everything is about HIM. If they didn't get rid of him then they would have to walk on eggshells constantly, praying that some offending scent in the air wont set him off! Will he wanna fight the catering guys simply because the food is at a temperature that offends phil brooks?!? Yes probably...that dude ironically is the biggest child in that lockeroom and is more sensitive then a freshman cheerleader at her 1st day in school.
Wonder if CM Punk takes medication for anger, have friends that take it and it genuinely helps.
He's straight edge. He doesn't believe in drugs 😂
Tony needs to lay off the coke
Punk can always go back to UFC and be a punching bag, I guarantee he wouldn’t have done any of that backstage stuff there.
Punk fleeced TK for millions, no need for UFC
Or he goes to WWE and laughs at the indie promotion
"I can't say, cause I cannot get into his brain BUT.......Yes!"
Dave Meltzer never ceases to amaze
Listen to it again. He was agreeing that some people *had said* that Punk was trying to get fired.
It really isn't hard. Three seconds' thought and you understand what he said.
Dave give the dog the mic, let the dog talk, the pup gots something to say..
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He knows about Ace Steele ...Larry leaked it to him
Finally….. the right decision by Tony. We don’t need that behaviour in wrestling today. Now let’s move on.
Get the heat out of pro wrestling.
I can't enjoy fake tumbling gymnastics if I cannot be guaranteed that the participants are best buds 🥺
@@jamesmiller5331 Another freak, holy shit. NO ONE NEED TO LIKE EACH OTHER but defending a psychical assault for such a minor reason like disagree on a wrestling spot is literally some sort of mental disorder.
@Eon2137 Dude, don't even try. These people are like Flat Earthers. Their perception of reality is fucked beyond repair.
Thats why aew is a success rn lmao
Most of the people are not really interested in identifying those responsible for passive bullying and underhanded behavior. For you, the one who points out the dirt is guilty. Whoever does the dirt gets away with it. Jim Cornette was right.
4 match Phil couldn't make it past 4 matches without getting injured or suspended. Epitome of a clown.
TK "ill give u ur own show, keep the elite away, and u can do whatever u want"
Punk " uhmmm this is too good of a deal, let me fight someone young enough to be my son and see what happen"
2 years ago it was the greatest return in the history of wrestling probably when he showed up in AEW. His feud with MJF was a classic and unfortunately Punk had to put his ego and that over helping build AEW. Yes what the Elite did was childish a bit but all Punk had to do was just squash the beef backstage and not do it in public last yr so bad that the cops at all out had to break up a fight. Sucks cause Punk is a top 10 all time favorite of mine but oh well.
Yeah I'm 26 and for my generation, Punk was it. It sucks when talented people are not cool. I don't think he's necessarily a malicious dude, but he's absolutely self-absorbed. Still wish we got those dream Punk vs Danielson and Punk vs KENTA matches
@@shawnmand5607 I feel ya I grew up in the attitude era and became a big fan of punk like 10 some years ago.
Third best return in wrestling history. Don't forget about that legendary Brian Christopher segment. And definitely don't forget about that time Marty Janetti was around for like two weeks. Punk edges out Vince McMahon in Gomez Addams cosplay but barely
Punk just assumed the elite spread rumours about him being the reason colt aint on the show anymore, theres no evidence that they spread those rumors or talked to any media. It could have been entirely made up dirt sheet story, so yeah we dont even know if those "childish" things even happened.
Greatest return in history 😂😂😂
All he had to do was wrestle and get on With other folk. He clearly is convinced of his own greatness
You could say that exact same thing to other people. The Bucks didn't have to enter his locker room and Jack Perry didn't have to be an idiot.
Look at the news,
What do you see?
Punk is F-I-R-E-D!
Buying a ticket to boo the guy responsible for the show you bought a ticket for, is an odd decision.
Yeah this is why I can't stand CM Punk fans. They think he's in the right. There should be no reason at all for them to boo Tony Khan for that decision. Ridiculous
Re: Post 97 Vince McMahon
It would be an odd decision except for the fact that that's not why they bought the ticket. They bought a ticket for CM Punk.
Punk is the draw, not AEW.
@@TheInsideVideo lmao that's a reach
That dog. 5 stars.
That dog gives zero fucks about Punk.
6 stars and it’s not even in the Tokyo Dome
Wow, Dave saying that they (observer) have been far too kind to Punk was intriguing
Yeh lol.
Punk has always hated dirtsheets especially Meltzer, and he hates the Elite, who Dave just LOVES, so maybe Dave has been trying especially hard to be balanced. Though it is very uncharacteristic of him to do so.
Yes Dave could've made up even more 🐎💩.😂😂😂😂
@@dessertstorm7476he hates dirt sheets so he ran to Nick Hausmen to cry all year?
@@dessertstorm7476 he hates dirtsheets that criticise his behaviour. He forgets to mention he uses them to push his own angle every time something happens (Nick Hausmen)
Triple H was right about Punk. Everything he said back then in the promos turned out to be true down the road. He had this cat all figured out from the start.
TRIPLE H…..THE SAME ONE THAT DID A RACIST STORYLINE & WON…THATS A PERSON U BELIEVE???
Maybe they were both right about each other.
Is there a single AEW fan that can distinguish a person's genuine opinions from kayfabe comments HHH the wrestling character made about CM Punk the wrestling character a decade ago?
@@CJM51392 You thinking it was only kayfabe is comical. And it’s not only AEW fans who think that.
@@MyChannel-ol1zz
What a mark lol.
guarantee Bryan and Dave celebrated before and after recording
Yup it's insane seeing 2 grown men meatriding the Elite to this extent.
At dinner with the Elite
So did I.
When did Punk & his cheerleaders think he is Bas Rutten? Dude did two MMA matches & got his ass handed to him both times. Wow, he managed to cheap shot skinny geek Jungle Boy & put him in a choke. He & his buddy had a chair throwing/handbags at dawn with the EVP's who cannot fight their way out of a paper bag either. Yet Punk struts around acting tough like has chocked out Lesnar, Angle, Shamrock, Severn etc & Cornette & his supporters fete his 'toughness' like he is Strangler Lewis or Lou Thesz.
"Cornette and his supporters" lol wow
Human beings will always find a way to divide up into two even ret@rded camps and then yell at each other on the internet
He beat up the bucks and Jack. It’s okay man.
He whooped your favorite wrestlers asses. Cry some more
WWE didn't die when Punk left , nor will AEW, they sold out Wembley without him, i will miss the drama lol
I sure as fuck won't. I'd rather talk about wrestling I enjoy than argue about backstage shit.
At first when I heard TK's statements, I was like "Fearing for his life, what?"
Then Bryan started talking about monitors falling on TK, and I was like "Jeezus Christ that sounds like Phil bodied TK into a bunch of tables, what the hell?!"
He never got to see what actually happened with Brawl Out a year ago, this time he was front and center and got caught in the crossfire. It really changes your perception when you get to see first hand how other people could have been hurt. I'm sure it was a big wake-up call for TK.
That report, plus the seeming confirmation by TK, and the fact that there's footage leads me to believe the facts were pretty damning. With the amount of evidence there is it just seems like a unanimous recommendation that he fire Punk must mean the facts showed that he was at fault. Look at it objectively and it becomes very difficult to defend Centimeter Punk
With this decision, AEW needs to pick up Will Osprey full time. And I hope Bryan Danielson gets cleared soon, there is a big hole at the top of Collision that needs to be filled now.
I was thinking the same thing Orspeays agent must be hearing the cash register ringing.
You think they can replace the best talker in the business with an Essex flippy chav or Danielson repeatedly calling people amateurs?
It was brought up on another wrestling channel he should try hard for Adam Copland (Edge) and they also brought up Mercedes as well.
@@nathandts3401 Why are we bringing up Eddie Kingston?
@@nathandts3401omfg are u kidding me ? Both ospreay and Danielson are 10x the performer punk is .
Awesome. I'm buying All Out tonight.
You and 15 other people….
Dave with his cap looks like an 8 year old on a school trip. Alvarez too. The Dog is the Star
It's great Punk got let go. AEW is great! The Young Bucks are the best tag team in the world, off all time, even! Hangman Page, Jungle Boy, OC and Mox are on the ultimate wrestling Mount Rushmore! Stone Cold and Rock are so overated! Anything the latter 2 can do, the former 4 can do better, by acrobatic leaps and bounds!
Without Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez constantly praising AEW and the founders still with the company, as of me writing this comment, we wouldn't have known how great everyone is. So, thank you for your 100% unbiased journalism, Dave and Bry.
You know what? Mox is better than MJF, and we, the TRUE wrestling fans, know it. I'd rather watch a gorey deathmatch and an absolute 5 star ozone-layer breaching high-flying tag team match than a fairly thoughtfully laid out wrestling match anyday. My life was incomplete without the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, but ever since it entered my life, my eyes have been opened to the wonderful world of the likes of Riho, despite being much smaller than her opponents, defeating them every week, giving us normies th confidence to take on all of life's challenges.
Thank you, Matt and Nick Jackson, Tony Khan, Dave and Bryan, for adding the most company of all time to our lives, without which our lives would be wastelands of pleasure.
The greatest trick M. Sacras ever played on us was making us think that such a great and truly powerful entity doesn't exist. Such an entity put their thing down, flipped it and reversed it as only they can, and only then can their true form be revealed to all.
I’m starting to agree with Kevin Nash when he said Punk has some mental health issues that he needs to take care of
Talent isn’t sexually transmitted , but maybe bi-Polar is infectious
Lol go watch kids play
I legit think he came back to Wrestling and remembered or realized "I don't like wrestling " and tried to speed run his firing.
No, he doesn't like what wrestling has become. He should have just quit.
If he didn't like wrestling he would not care this much. He loves wrestling, but hates the culture of AEW. Dude would do better spending his last years floating around the globe wrestling whoever he wants and then bowing out.
@samismith8752 What's the culture of AEW? This isn't like a "what!? You're wrong, idiot!" Reply. I'm legit wondering what you mean by culture.
Do you mean the people? Or the rules?
Punk has been nothing but trouble. He popped 1 Rampage rating and drew a couple of houses, that's it. His defective, sensitive personality isn't worth it.
Punk definitely has some issue whether it's anger management, cte or mental health. Its worse because he's surrounded by cult like fans and yes mens who won't tell him to get help. Even people with addiction dont mess up this badly
I mean, it's not exactly a secret Punk had a fucked-up upbringing, but I'd also say his run in WWE exacerbated those issues as well and he's not gotten the proper therapy to take care of this.
he had a I don't deal with pussies issue
Everything popped off and gorilla position so we know CM Punk was going to be fired plus the cameras were there💯 So Good Luck Cm Punk In All Your Future Endeavors 🤣🤣
Bryan Alvarez is CREAMING his jeans!!!
😂😂
Ignoring the whole Jack Perry incident itself, the fact that after it happened Punk physically threatened Tony Khan who was his boss is cause enough to fire him. Anyone who has a real job knows that making your boss feel threatened is more than enough to be shown the door XD
Punk though he had Tony by the balls. Thinking AEW needs him.
Well the ratings will fall
@@Punkinlunkbut it's worth it that's the point.
@@watersandblue6001 worth what? He just sold the most merch and move ratings but since he talked back to the elite, the Elite made sure he got fired by being passive aggressive
@@PunkinlunkFall to what. The ratings for the show with Punk front and centre have been abysmal
As someone who thought Punk should've been gone immediately after All Out 2022, what else did you want Tony to do? He kept Punk way longer than he should have and it was proven Punk just wasn't going to ever stop. He demonstrated in the SI article he wanted to move forward but his actions showed he wanted to do the exact opposite. You can't justify it at this point. Stop digging into the "Hangman made a comment 8 people in the crowd understood" well and realize the Punk response was way out of proportion compared to the alleged antagonizing.
Completely agreed.
""We were far too kind to him." That's funny because a few months ago Meltzer was apologizing to Punk after Punk went on Instagram and called him out for his reporting about this.
He's such a slimy liar lol
TK tried everything and did everything for Punk. But Punk still fucked it up
Tony even blew him I bet
Jack and Hangman fucked it up
Now that we've seen the footage, we know they were way too kind. That was attempted murder. Period.
There comes a time in life when you just have to cut out the cancer, no matter how hard that decision is and the short-term costs or ramifications.
Nobody wants to keep the cancer and hope for the best.
@@sandyunderpants4376 Exactly.
All of this has me thinking .. maybe Triple H wasn’t the problem all those years ago. 👀
Cause weak cardiac never abused his power
@@thagame7528 Both statements can be true.
@@SeanStrifeconvenient excuse for hypocrisy
No he definitely was.
@@thagame7528 pretty sure Hunter never made Vince feel like him and his colleagues lives were in danger…
Thank God! In 2 years, Punk has had 2 fights, he’s been suspended twice, he’s gone into business for himself twice, he’s been injured twice, he’s relinquished the title twice & now I only have 2 fingers for him…DEUCES!
fights happen, get over it
@@keni95851 Punk’s gone. Get over it!
@@jihadx5307 he is 🤷 what's more concerning its the pathetic softness of people.
@@keni95851 soft because I don’t condone unprofessionalism & immature temper tantrums in professional settings? There’s a time & place for everything & Punk had his opportunity to fight at work when he was in the UFC & failed.
TK should show the footage on All Out and sell some PPVs
Punks skin is way too thin to be a pro wrestler. Hangman said a mean thing! Jungle boy said a mean thing! Yeah it's called pro wrestling.
Cena told Roman "it's called a promo kid you're gonna have to learn how to cut one". Roman didn't attack anyone or lose his marbles because HES A PRO.
I can't believe Khan actually went out before the show to address the live audience. I woulda been terrified to go out there, in Punk's home town.
He from here too
@@RenzoSupreme I know, but you know how crazy Chicago fans can get for CM Punk.
He was so strong and brave 🥰🥰
Tony is a billionare who owns a wrestling company and who's dad owns a football team. He's fine
This all started with Hangman cutting a promo out of nowhere on Punk .
Correct. Then Jack did the same thing. Finally someone gets it.
Go cry into your punk pillow, he's done. Move on
It all started when Tony didn't squash the Cabana rumors and let them spread, leading Hangman to believe them to be true and then shooting on Punk on live TV.
Punk is, was, and always will be a diva...
And punk is still grinding that axe………. I bet he still wants to fight some kid in grade school that threw an eraser at his head…..
Far too kind? LMAO theres no way he said that.
Surprisingly enough, I saw an overwhelming amount of support for TK and that they've had enough of Brook's shenanigans
Kinda telling, I thought the reaction would have been opposite
Enjoy the slop that TK feeds you
@@thagame7528dude why do u say that? Legit every week tk puts on fantastic wrestling shows . Like do you have a functioning brain at all ?
One key sentence in the release statement "The company has decided to terminate the CONTRACTS" This all but confirms what people with common sense understood a while ago. CM Punk was not hired simply as a in ring character but he definitely had management duties and that's why they were extra careful to address the Brawl Out debacle with kid gloves, the guy had just as much power as The Elite backstage, until he decided it to throw it away in a true Joker fashion. Good riddance
Dave's dog to CM Punk's dog: You got fired! *Barkes*
I love ugly dogs. Larry is a treasure. May not have ever been adopted if not for Punk. Pro wrestling seems to poison his brain, but the dude seems legit outside the business. Does work with PAWS, uses his platform to support human rights. If you recall he was the first person to openly and loudly support D Young when he came out, and that was during a time when being gay in wrestling was still dangerous or a career ender.
What’s gonna happen to Ace Steel now? He was a big part of this whole situation…
Just speculating here but I would think they'll probably pay him out or just keep him on contract from home until the term ends. He didn't fight anybody on his current deal that we know of so it might be a legal issue otherwise. I don't know anybody who works at AEW tho so I don't know. That's just what I think the most likely scenario is
@@hezekiahramirez6965 yup, probably on gardening leave for the rest of his contract
How was he a part of this situation? He wasn't even on the continent
Dog Meltzer is the best guest.
I suspect this is what Punk wanted.
Tony, Bucks & Kenny have been so giving to this diva, but even the patience of a saint can run out.
They need to make Orange Cassidy the face of Saturdays. Building to him going over MJF in the long term.
Dave is right, he knows Punk wanted out & let's see how professional FTR are now... or will they hold up the belts like their diva pal 😢
👎🏿
Cassidy?
🤢 You’ve gotta be joking me.
@@AdrianBeegoatz 🤣
HHH said it best in the Promo he cut on Punk 17 years ago THIS MONTH on Smackdown. August 30th 2011
LAAAAAAAST MONTH, surely?
12 years ago but great comment. That promo had some truth in it apparently
Are you time traveling from 2028?
Is Trump in prison? Is dubstep still a thing? Is Roman still the world champion? I have so many questions
Nobody cares what weak cardiac said
Dave left this out but the week after MJF/Cole vs. FTR was the week they were up against Summerslam so that night was gonna do a bad number regardless
100%
That was a big detail left out.
Let’s see how Collision does in the ratings against the “Royal Rumble” or “Wrestlemania” with Brandon Cutlet and The Best Friends main eventing next year.
@@AdrianBeegoatz Cutler most underrated wrestler of this generation
Are you guys investors in AEW?? Why are you so concerned about the numbers
@@Rrldc1 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When I was younger, I identified and liked CM Punk a lot. I was all with “The systems corrupt and holds people back” rebel mentality.
Now that I’m a bit older, and think back to interviews and things that I heard, I realize how unaccountable and whiny CM Punk is. He’s the type of guy that blames others for his problems or why things didn’t go the way he wanted them to go. I don’t like the victim mentality he can sometimes perpetuate.
With that being said, I hope he can come back and make amends. He’s a icon and a legend. Wishing everyone involved the best
What are Dave and Brian going to do now? The witch hunt is over and there’s no one to blame when Aew ratings continue to plummet. No stars, just gymnasts