The difference between a producer and an audio engineer
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2013
- In this video I'm explaining the differences between a producer and an audio engineer. Many people have asked me what the differences are, and if these roles really still apply nowadays on the 'modern producer'.
So we're comparing the traditional producer with the audio engineer and the modern producer.
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Every beatmaker who claims to be a producer needs to see this video...even today.
+1 a producer orchestrates an entire project and helps an artists vision come to life. not send them a beat and say hey have fun with this.
Beatmakers are and can still be producers, because they are the ones selecting the sounds, as the producer over sees what is happening inside of the studio, the producer oversees what is happening inside of the virtual studio.
There might be an instance where the beatmaker does not get to choose the sounds themselves, and just have to work with samples given to them, but even still, they had to decide the groove, and the tempo.
Arranegment is a different topic. Arrangers know what their job is.
So yes, Beat makers can call themselves producers. Producing a beat still requires decision making, whether you think it does or not.
@@TranceCore3 being in the studio with the artist is not the same as emailing artist your beat.
@@taylorstep8135 Technically if a beats emailed to a artist or they buy or download it to sing on it or rap then it's a co production.
@@greenhound that’s a huge part of the vision …..
The first partynexdoor album was written produced engineered released by PARTYNEXTDOOR himself which to this day blows my mind
grimes.
Check out JPEGmafia if you aren't already aware of him.
The guy has handled every aspect of his music in the entirety of his discography bar ONE song.
Seriously impressive stuff
It's very common in the SoundCloud scene for artists to do it all themselves unless they're in a collective or are already friends with a producer
@@philraymond8202 no???
So the engineer take Tory lanes voice and makes it what it is essentially and not the mixer
where have u been all my life ??? haha MANN I have been looking at ur vids for a lil while now and boy I did not get disappointed. GREAT CHANNEL
I want to Really thank you for taking the time and Energy of putting these tutorials together and sharing them here on UA-cam. I am working up a power point Presentation for for a class at my church. I can't believe the stuff I have forgotten through the years and thank you for the refresher on all of this and wish that I was young again and just starting out. The music industry has changed dramatically from when I started back in the early 70's. ~"Dr."John~
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Thanks man! Love to hear that! I am trying to publish these books for other media as well, but that takes a lot more time than I actually anticipated.
Again: thanks for your kind words, and great to hear you are 'spreading the word'!
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I have both of Wick's books and they are great. I've learned so much from them and I continue to go back to them time and again as references. I highly recommend them.
I'm a Producer based in Kingston, Jamaica.
Sadly, everyone wants me to be their engineer :(
Still doing this?
This video was honestly so informative!! Thank you!!
Hi Tovasti, I am definitely going to continue with this season, but it will include many things which I am preparing and trying to arrange. (Including downloads of the multitrack recordings which I will be mixing this season...)
The training program will be there as well one day, but it has to be as complete as any paid audio-college. This will involve a lot of work which I currently don't have. By the time I can run all of this full-time, I will definitely offer a FREE program.
Thanks a lot :D
Love hearing that! -Cheers
Awesome breakdown, thanks!
Thanks Zazoo515, love to hear how much you learn!
And thanks for your recommendation, highly appreciated!
Informative. Really learned a lot from this. Thanks
Nice. Well explained.
Great video! Love the graphics. Subscribed.
This is why the industry got so competitive. Everything just got more accessible
It shouldn't be gatekept.
Hahah thanks a lot!
-- Let him know ;)
And yeah, the LA-2A is a very nice compressor indeed!
Haha good question, would almost do it in a video now ;)
A producer can sometimes only work with the band based on one project.
And he works, together with the band, on the production process of their music.
The band's manager is doing managing tasks like taking care of bookings, promotion, deals, contracts.. etc. (But these tasks can vary and are highly depending on the relation and agreement with the band and/or label.)
Producers are usually musically creative, managers... manage :)
Where do you get your graphics from? Or do you custom build all your graphics? They look amazing and add a lot to the story. I've been trying to find a good source of graphics, but have struck out so far. Most places seem expensive.
Thank you!
So I am the studio owner and recording engineer helping make a 5 song EP that the singer/songwriter/artists/performer wrote 100% himself. Some 20/30 recording and mixing sessions later, I don’t know if I am entitled to a share of either the publishing (probably not, having not written a single word or note), or mechanicals from the master (which I am 100% responsible for, having chosen and physically operated every recording and mix decision, to the final master)...
Thank you for this great video...
good stuff!
Great video!!!
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really great video!
Super helpful!
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Rick Rubin needs to watch this. Also the LA2A is my favorite compressor :)
I have no idea what a patchbay is lol. But this is very informative, Thanks for this video
You are good, man. Keep up the good work! On 2:37 you need no apostrophs for plural, but fuck, tutoral's good anyhow.
thank you. may God Bless you more you good person. amen
How you do all the animation and graphics stuff? What kind of school did you take?
Hey guys! where could I get to watch the documentary he mentioned in the video 'sound city' ?
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Awesome
Hi,I have a question....Does Sound Enginering helps in electronic music production or at future in same??
Great job doing this video, but I differ. I have known many producers that can't mix at all, or record. That's why engineers will always be a big part of the creative process. It doesn't matter how much better plugins get, experience dealing only with transients makes you a mastering engineer. Experiencing with mics and rooms makes you a great recording engineer. One thing is that you have certain knowledge of how things work during the process, but producers most of the times don't have the expertise to handle that themselves. That's why most of the one man productions now sound bad in general, you need different ears that can work in different ways and they all convey & nurture the project in development. A really good producer knows this, he can make a great team of engineers, arrengers, etc... so that every work he does sounds great. So many details and that's without even talking about the room or monitoring system in home/amateur studios. You can't mix/record/master those things that you don't hear.
Really great video, but I do differ in what actual "music producers" are and need to get their feet closer to the ground to what they can really do.
+AwesomeBrilliance
More information required. Are you using a condenser microphone? If you’re in an untreated room, it’ll be especially noisy because it picks up everything.
It could be self noise from the interface/preamp you’re using.
How far away from the microphone are you? Depending on the microphone, this could be 5-10 inches. If you’re further away with the gain turned up higher, you’ll probably get some echo.
Maybe you’re getting interference with the cables, or the cables are poor quality.
Finally, is your mic shit-tier quality? Are you using a USB mic?
Could be anything.
Have you worked with a producer in which is on a label or a person who claims to be a producer? Every real producer that I've encountered can't do the engineer's job but are capable of filling in as they know the basics of how things work enough to make things work...I think that you missed the point of this video tbh and no one mentioned mastering in this video they were giving the jobs of a producer and how a producer differs from an engineer. Also, the majority of the audio engineers that I know are also producers and have credits on mainstream projects. They also have home studios in which they utilize to produce some of the songs that you may ear on the radio etc.
@AwesomeBrilliance What kind of microphone? What's the polar pattern? Which brand? If the mix is nosy it could be a lot of things from the cabling to your input sources. If it's background noises that you're picking up due to you recording in the wrong environment you may want to try a dynamic mic. Also, are you conversing with a mix engineer or a mastering engineer because they aren't really the same?
hmm, the definition of Producer is that they must know how to operate the board (or software) and mix it themselves? I don't know about that. I just learned how to engineer myself, so I can finally transfer everything I hear in my head (every note, every effect, all the levels, the entire sonic structure) into my DAW. I have spent years telling the engineer what to do, because I knew how the tiniest detail was supposed to sound. And I believe that's what production is.
I may have needed this I think the engineer is the most powerful cus with out him , your idea is just a idea and he knows the tech side to achieve sound and work every fear hmm
I am the guy in the end, I produce, record, mix and even master my own stuff. Can't wait to release my stuff.
Consolous Where's your shit Bro? It's been a year...
Parity is Uncertain lmao
We are waiting bro 😤
Same but which school should I do then ?
When are you going to continue season episodes? What about that training program what read in your website but you deleted it? you are not going to continue it?
Say I wanted to go to full sail what would they consider a beatmaker? Music producer or audio engineer??
Thanks
Very good!... Liked! Another flaw for school system! Yea
Can you please explain how to connect mixer to and audio interface
Tnx
Moody Good is introduced as producer and sound engineer
Hi there, I am an incoming grade 11 student, i want to an audio engineer but i also want to be music producer, So what Strand will I choose?
“The ‘record’ button”...how to know if someone is reading of a script. Appreciate the info though.
Audio engineers can actually have longer careers. Beat makers are too easy to replace. I know this for a fact. That's why I moved into mix engineering and live sound. I'm so surprised none of these kind of videos don't explain which one has more long term benefits.
Is it possible to take on both roles?
So according to this vid Sound Engg can do Music producers work Am I Right?
NO. Producers know music. Sound engineers know the studio. but it did kinda seem like he hinted that Producers know about Sound engineering
in nowadays yes u can be everything like he said
yes ofcourse ,if u know both then congrats you are one of them ❤️
No sound engineers level out effects and volume and deal with vocals while producers make beats or compose music but nowadays u can do both and good artist who are perfect examples are partynextdoor,Russ and plenty more
@@dominicmuembo7830 so music producer know about sound engineering? Thanks🙏
Are producers and audio engineers hired by a label or an artist
Wow.... it's so complex
my aim is to produce such a captivating piece of music that could get me grammy. so should i take a audio engineering course or producer course?
take none! do what you do don't waste a dime
What about people like Martin Garrix and kshmr .. in which category they come
Nice video, but how about saying and showing both men and women can be producers? :)
all this true about "home producers")) BUT!
High quality sound can be only created in correct sounding room with correct monitors.
And there is one more golden rule - shit in shit out.
As result only experienced audio engineer can create a home studio from his sleeping room)
Anyway nice work!
Thank you for this tutorial!
It’s almost offensive when a guy making beats in fruity loops are calling themselves producers/engineers when they don’t know anything outside of Fruity loops, especially most the guys on the “deconstructed” series of the genius channel. All the instruments in FL are already somewhat “dialed in”, that’s why most music in the last 7 years sounds the same. This is coming from a guy that enjoys “some” trap music. I think “beat maker” is more of an appropriate term for the trap producers. And don’t get me started when they use a musical “sample” , They’re more like a glorified dj, they’ll take a riff or a piece of music and add a drum beat.
Yes. So offensive. How dare they claim the title of "producer"? All they're doing is clicking on a few buttons and boom. A wild Instrumental appears. The lyrics, recording, mix, master, marketing material and promotion just happens automatically when you hit the export button in FL 🤓
So I’m wondering let’s say I already have a beat, who would I have to work with in order to record my vocals and etc ?
A recording engineer would be your best bet, you can also record your own vocals and either learn or pay someone to mix your music as well. I'm a Recording/mix engineer.
He also knows how things should sound in his opinion.
what is analog digital conversion do
We wear many hats these days. Can't pay too much mind to these terms.
Got any examples of records where bad engineering screwed a good producer? Or the opposite - where a lousy producer was saved by a great engineer?
Iggy Pop once fired the producer, and let the engineer work out the sound. The resulting album is called Soldier..
Does sound designing is taught in sound engineering course . I think the guy must be a sound engineer to be a good producer .
I am a EDM producer, I know how to mix but sometimes its difficult to know certain things like - how to EQ perfectly,how to compress and all .
So do I need a sound engineering course?
You do know there are tutorials on how to EQ in a mix on UA-cam right?
Learning about mixing in a music studio from a producer is far more better than learning from online videos .. @ Rivers bliss
Thanks :-) will send it to all my non musicians friends :-D
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@1:37"How to make things sound that way".
My goal is to do this in the most efficient manner but I am so far from it.
I want to dedicate my all to this, can someone tell me what is a good way to learn it please??
I always used to think this was audio engineering but I guess i was wrong.
Brian Anderson learn synthesizers. use UA-cam to learn customizing drums.
+Brian Anderson Find audio that needs to be engineered. Figure out what it should sound like, or what it shouldn't sound like at least. Then, your task is much simpler, as at that point it's only figuring out which tools to utilize and how to utilize them to get from point A to B.
Damn now I’m more confused what I want 😊
So the producer is pretty much like a store manager, audio engineer the assistant manager and recording artist the worker except on different level of income 👍🏾
I need an audio engineer mentor
im 18 and im improving (a little bit slowly) in producing beats and things like that.. but the problem that i'm not good at equalizing and optimizing the track.. because all my resources are from youtube and from myself.. but i still have this problem that i cant show real quality in my beats or tracks... i started alone since 3 years and im still alone till this day because i don't know anbody working in this field, i hope if somebody can give me an advice to improve in this thing and solve my problems (sorry for my shitty english)
soundcloud.com/aloush-mission-rapperboy this is my channel
so if somebody can see my work and give me an advice.. i'll be so grateful
Vikings is a banger beat! You should totally make something similar to it with that arabic sound and ambiance. I would also make it more... powerful. Just imagine someone getting frustrated and starts yelling as they rap. If this beat was a bit more powerful it would totally do the trick for me personally!
Drewlinskii thnx man
***** sorry but what it has to do with what am talking about?
Damn we are lucky!!!
So what's the difference between a producer and a manager?
Distinguish between pre-producer and post-producer.
Damn, look at you GO!!!! 12k views, 400 likes and fukkin ZERO dislikes!!!! I don't think I've ever seen a vid with 0 dislikes and DAMN that bastard who ever touches that button. This was a great vid. Great sense of humor too!!
I'm the third type.
Which major should you go in for college, for there to make beats engineer and ect
My major is Sound Engineering, 2 year course. My main classes for first year are as follows: Sound Theory(using the Sound Reinforcement Handbook), Music Theory(self explanatory), DAW( Cubase for 1st year, Pro tools for second year.), and Studio Craft(recording in the studio, using mixing console, setting up all the equipment/instruments etc.) I'm also more into the direction of music production, I make hip hop and house beats. I think If you take up sound engineering its a great idea since you get to learn IMPORTANT fundamentals for music production such as mixing /mastering, music theory,which is crucial in making beats. But you should only take Sound/Audio engineering if you are also interested in the engineering aspect (recording artists, setting up sound system, mixing/mastering vocals and instruments etc). hope i could help bro and good luck.
if you have musical talent fuck science and waves... generate new tunes and all the science nerds will lick your balls... but, if you don't have musical talent, and you enjoy learning about the "reasons" behind the physical world you live in (regardless of social horseshit).. then you definitely should go for a sound engineering career... it's like that son... there is space for ALL SORT OF ANIMALS in this world ;)
+Sinelizwi Cosmo where do you go to school?
OMGaBlackGguy A lot are self taught. Just look at Dr.Dre
1:55
why am i watching this i already know the difference
and that's why nowadays one-man-army bedroom producer sucks and don't get traction. because when it's ALL about you, it's gonna be ONLY about you.
When it comes to the modern producer segment, it kinda makes me feel like all these producers that charge assloads are uselesss.
it depeneds
Does an audio interface really make a difference?
Not necessarily, it depends on what your using it with, which plugins and vst's.
Everything in this video is excelent, except that I would switch the looks of producer and sound engineer.
Lmao you’re wrong they’re relatively accurate
oh fuck brand shirt last one
This video noticeably lowered my interest in visiting a professional recording studio. At least if it works like this.
You definitely didn't get the job done but I think it was because you wanted to make a short video about this particular subject
I guess I am a modern producer 😂