What is Tavares and Marner's market value| OverDrive - Hour 3 - 05/09/2024
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- Bryan Hayes, Jeff O’Neill and Jamie McLennan are joined by TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun to discuss the future of Sheldon Keefe and could he back in the NHL sooner rather than later, the timeframe for the Maple Leafs to name a new head coach and could Rod Brind’Amour or Joel Quenneville be an option in Toronto, the market value for John Tavares and Mitch Marner if the Maple Leafs were to move off them and more. They are also joined by TSN Oilers reporter and Got Yer Back podcast founder Ryan Rishaug to discuss Leon Draisaitl’s status for Game 2 against the Canucks, the vibe in the Edmonton Oilers market after giving up a 4-1 lead, Stuart Skinner and Connor McDavid’s performances in Game 1 and more.
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I just wanna know how much o dog is charging for ad space
The entire planet is doing this now…get a calendar 📆 It’s the “I’m a brand” era
He's been adding more. He's the only one doing it lol.
That’s actually hilarious. He’s not even subtle about it.
@@ozzydo2314 Lmao gotta give him credit - I’m sure he’s taking in some decent money off the ad placements
lol
True. No different from the strategically placed Body Armor drinks at the pre-post interviews. Too bad these hockey players don't have the balls like Cristinado who threw away the Coca Cola drink they tried to make it look like he's promoting.
These insiders just blow hot air 24/7
It's TSN, almost all of there shows are a joke of hot air idiots
@@christopherharte4741 So you and the other person tune in / click purely for the comedic relief?
to be fair, the only "insider" that actually seemed to ever have any inside info is Adrian Wojnarowski for basketball. EVERYONE else in every sport is just trying to mimic him because fans look for and expect it to exist
Don't crunch the numbers to finely just move them & get on with it!
Don't forget about Shanahan's market value!
Finally
Marner with small cap retention will get a good return. Not a haul but good pieces that will help the Leafs.
Tavares interest will be lower but some team with cap space might take him, perhaps Utah?
Please no, I want utah to succeed lol
JT has leadership qualities that could come in handy for Utah.
why do we talk about all these scenarios and ignore the obvious. If the fans stop paying THEN changes happen. TRUTH!!! and you all know it. Stop taking free tickets from corporations and stop attending.
The only thing that is going to happen here is what always happens in multi-billion dollar corporate behemoths: they will ADD more upper management. They will do NOTHING constructive. As long as this ownership group remains in place the results will remain the same.
What is the intro song? Sounds catchy lol
There was the Philly to Anaheim trade earlier this year. Disgruntled forward prospect, for Drysdale. If the Leafs can't at least get something like that for Marner, I don't know what to tell you...
Drysdale didn’t have a NMC
No can pass and set people up like Marner the guy ìs great
After bonuses paid there will be a market for both. Question is will the players waive their ntc
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“These guys can’t take criticism of their play” “How can we run them out of town in a trade”? One of these things is not like the other
Leafs didn’t lose because of coaching, they looked convincing against a strong Bruins side.
They lacked a good dcorps and quality cap due to how much is spent on the core four.
Move Marner and Tavares if you want to build a championship calibre squad.
Are you stupid? They couldnt score man.
Im not in full agreement. What if we started Woll and recognized Samsonov was 5 and 9 prior. What if we had Swayman in net? We win easy. We also need to fix that defense. But yeah all the money went on that top 4 and its a broken model. No one wants to see the re do.
Easier said than done with all the no move contracts look it’s the hardest trophy to win in all of team sports imho u need everything to have a chance of a cup, coach, assistant / special teams coach, goaltending, defense, forwards & depth the days of Patrick Roy (93) winning the cup practically single handed have long gone! And yes I know he never scored the 10 OT GWGs 😏
right on right on.. pick a new line lol
listening to O-Dog's guarantee after the Canes OT loss was so funny.
he's consistently the worst part of this show. But I guess you need a doofus to make everyone else look smarter
Just throw Brind'Amour a bag whatever he wants. No cap for coaches and its one place we can actually spend money.
Didnt you try that already with Babcock?
How many cup winning teams has he coached? Canes are the American Leafs, great regular season and no cups although they have had a few more playoff wins... RB is not the Leafs answer Quennville is looking better and better everyday
Keefe is better than Green and I feel that the Sens should have waited a few days to acquire him. But Keefe might need a break and if even not there are better teams that want Keefe's services.
Trade Proposal A) Marner and Reilly for Dobson and Horbvat B) Marner,Reilly Tavares for Malkin & Karlson C) Marner and Reilly for Werenski, Marchenko, Sillinger a 1st and and 2 rounder
I think it's a good idea to fade O if you're going to bet on NHL playoff games.
let marners agent talk to any teams and negotiate the trade from there
How much money are missing out on from losing?
you guys got your thing bad golf
Honestly, it isn’t a coaching problem it’s a core 4 problem. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
It's the money they pay the core 4... they pay all of them superstar money, when only one of them is a true superstar.
They about to find out the hard way like the sharks did
Bam Son
They have also been babied for last 5 years by Keefe. Brind'Amour might be what they need too turn these boys into men probably not but hopeful thinking
Coaches determine how a team plays …. Motivation and processes are coaching moves. We have some of the best players in the league and they cant get it done with keefe style hockey….. core is not the issue … it was dubas he is gone, keefe was dubas guy coach … now we get a tree style coach, if core can’t do it with a tree like team then marner and jt are gone anyway
Marner for Zegras and the 3rd pick?
in tampa marner would feel at home in blue and white mom dad would feel at home with all the canucks in town and in the stands ..............stamkos out marner in marner would love low taxes accepting no raise is a raise the fans already love marner
If they wanna talk Financials what kind of money would be generated if this team had a deep playoff run??
send tavares to robidas island for last season and comeback for playoffs
So are we relying on a new Shanaplan now as our savior , if Shanahan stays I find a new team to be a fan of!
Well they are both superstars right? I mean they wouldn't be making 11 mill if they weren't so I would say a lot...at minimum 5 first rounders
Why would any team give up any 1st rounders for these players when they can just wait for Marner and Tavares contract to expire. Leafs are not resigning these players. If Leafs management can’t trade them that’s $22M of dead cap space for another year 😂.
I think Brind’Amour might be available for the leafs? Canes down 3-0 in series against The Rangers.
Great! Another coach who can’t win in the playoffs
Carolina played well against Florida in last year's playoff but lost because of Bob's outstanding goaltending. This year they have lost once by 1 goal in regulation and now twice in overtime to the Rangers. Again they are playing well, but it looks as though they are going to come up short.
@@haysbrickell9579 Sounds like the Leafs
No coach can save this team it’s a jinxed team. Lol
I was hoping Carolina and Florida for an ECF, but the Rangers are obviously sidelining that.
Lol wait till they both refuse to wave no trade clause and they'll be stuck with the core four again
Odog like 0-4 predictions I would always talk opposite whoever he chooses lol 🤔🤣🙄🤦♂️
Love this 🇨🇦😁
trade Marner even if all you get in return is a bucket of hockey pucks - you will at least get some VALUE out of the hockey pucks
If I was in the room I would ask shanny "what does taking responsibility mean?'... holding a press conference and stating the obvious? That's it? No I blew it and resignation? Zero consequences beyond an awkward presser is a joke. If I was there in the room I would ask him... "in 2017 2018 and 2019 the Florida Panthers missed the playoffs... then in 2020 lost in Qualifying Round, 2021 lost in First round, 2022, lost in Second Round, 2023 lost in the FINALS. That's called progressing year by year. Why have the Maple Leafs in that time only managed first round loses with the exception of beating a Tampa team that was minus key players? Year over year there is ZERO progress with the Leafs. And how do you plan to change this outcome for next year?
This should be a 24 hour sports program 😄🇨🇦
Great question all in all tough questions here😂🔥🇨🇦
hayes uses lap dog as his personal atm
MLSE tells “ Toepick” that he’s not getting an extension…………. He will probably stay to spite the team and walk,………. Or waive the NTC and move on…………… hopefully the latter…………👀😎👍🤘🍁🍻🇨🇦
O'dog is losing weight!! Looks good
This may be one of the greatests pool of teams ever😄🇨🇦🇺🇸
Time to give your fans a message 😁🇨🇦
Marner could be traded for his father’s love and acceptance.
Wow! Let’s get personal because 23 men you don’t know lost at pro hockey against 23 other men you don’t know
@@gordonbgraham calm down princess.
@@freestuff1188 Goody? That you?
@@gordonbgraham 🧚♀tinkerbell? that you?
@@freestuff1188 emojis are for 12 year old girls on Tik Tok…definitely not Goody
Quenville tho a great coach and what the Leafs desperately need he is persona non grata not great for Maple leafs image after the toxic shit that went down in Chicago so much that it might even stop JQ getting in the Hall 🤔😏 plus will Bettman even let him coach again might take a new commish for him to even coach again 🤔🤷♂️
Hire Quennville as new coach
i dont think yall want the drama that comes with him, theres a reason why he doesnt have a job anymore. I think Gallant is your best choice for the leafs
@@PastaTime88 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@PastaTime88 bam son
@@user-sn8sw2vi8z I’m being genuine, this isn’t like a bruins fan trying to sabotage yall. He was in Florida, dominating, they only fired him for Quennville, then he went to Vegas and they also dominated under his coaching. He seems like a new age coach that might mesh well with Matthews, Nylander, and Reilly (I’m assuming the captains next year)
@@PastaTime88 bam son
Marner brings the team down every post season. He plays for himself. When he threw his gloves off on the bench that was the last straw. The richest Nhl franchise money is no object with these clowns.
BS
What side of this 💰🇨🇦😄
lol these guys desperately wanting a no nonsense coach yet these are the same guys who cried about what the team had to say about babs after he was fired. No coach solves this mess. Break up the core 4 and rebuild net up.
Thank u Noodles for talking sense. Enough of this crap
Retro 1967😁🇨🇦🎶
Bam Son
It’s not like 1993 was yesterday
Talk pierre Lebrun 😁🇨🇦
Once they hire a new head coach i would do whatever it takes to get Saros in net from Nsh also bring back Schenn lock him up for a few years at least he hits lots he plays with heart that they need.
They can hire a new coach this & that but unless they fix the back-end in Net with a true #1 goalie & 2 solid dman then the new coach won't even have a chance...
Bertuzzi to me was not a good fit they need someone way better than him who scores more consistently.
I would resign Domi if the term is reasonable.
Also resign McCabe & Edmondson trade Liligren.
Schenn is a pylon now.
😂Friday is all we have🇨🇦🔥
Very unpopular opinion here....The Edmonton Oilers are probably one of THE most OVERRATED teams in the entire NHL. Goaltending is average, at best and Defense is terrible. They try to out score their problems and sometimes it works, but its not gonna win them a cup, plain and simple.
ridiculous - Joel Quennville - never been sentenced , never been tried, never suspended - WTF is that ? I would love to see a labor attorney take a bite into that . I'm not saying he did anything wrong - but even murderers - after they serve their sentence - have the chance to earn a living .
100% correct. Unfortunately these woke creeps drive this narrative. If Quennville were black I bet nothing would have been done.
Plenty of teams would take Tavares if you retain half salary, plenty!
and? you do realize Toronto would still retain that percentage of cap hit until the contract expires, right? (the whole 1 year)
that cap hit is $11,000,000 and 50% of that retained is $5,500,000.
the idea of salary retention is to acquire assets that strengthen the position of a team to win down the line.
the Laugh's adopted a win now stance. not a gimp themselves for year and win down the line after retention expires stance.
who are the Laughs acquiring in or following a Tavares trade that is worth their own salary plus+ an additional $5,500,000 for that current year?
is Toronto involving draft pick stock in exchange for a 3rd team eating aforementioned retention?
not to mention the full NM Clause. (i know, i just mentioned it)
welcome to reality and the acknowledgement of proverbial handcuffs.
One of the leafs most important crossroads 🇨🇦😁
Retain salary and lose a pick.
click bait no better than AI
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Sign Free agents Zadorov Montour and Pesce. Trade Mathews to LA for Quintin Byfield, Brandt Clarke and JL Dubois(to make the$ work for LA) plus draft picks. Trade Marner and Reaves to San Jose or Chicago for more Picks, firsts and seconds only please, or to Seattle for Wright and picks or to Anaheim for Dostal and picks. Clark is on a similar path as Makar. You would still have $15million to sign 2 forwards and a goalie for next year. The following year adios Tavares hello $11 million and sign Crosby, the year after McDavid. See you at the parade
Just one goal from the surgeons knife😁🇨🇦
Shanny is not getting fired.
Leafs buy high and sell low
Shanny, Tavares, Keefe & Marner should all walk the plank. of course. But Matthews should also be traded...Mr 69 is the milk carton man. He is a players version of the Presidents Trophy. I don't care if he scores 500 regular season goals. It has been 8 years that Matthews has been a playoff no show. This story is way past being just old.
Tavares is no longer worth $11 million a year
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Meanwhile former Oilers coach just hanging out 😁🇨🇦
Leafs need a coach they can’t take in a fight. I think my daughter could dust Woodcroft
marner to tampa
For who? 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Crosby and a 1st rounder!
tavares is crursed.
Maybe he is the curse
Keefe is going to Pittsburgh to join his bum chum buddy Doofus aka Dubas lol 😂😂😂
Weird phrasing…latent issues?
If its McLellan Im done with this team. Smarten up and hire Quenneville. Tell Gerry B to piss off
I feel John T will get a 3-4th liner and a draft pick....Marner will get a premium player and 2 draft picks.
No trade contracts will be in play.
Ghost injuries anyone 🇨🇦🇺🇸😁
Luke 🔥🇨🇦
Jake the Snake 😂Roberts like 🇨🇦🇺🇸🔥🎲
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No need for too much change 😁🇨🇦
Practically every leaf fan whines about how soft and lazy Marner is. He's making over 10 million per year and he's going to want more as a UFA. Who the f is going to want him! Tavares is past his prime, thus way overpaid! Who's going to want that contract?
No 😂freekin idea how this plays out 🇨🇦🇺🇸
Tavares? Leadership? What leadership? He's awful! He loses! He's oblivious!
Trying to be serious here😁🇨🇦
Market value of Tavares? None at $11 M. Marner has value to a team that wants or needs to make the playoffs. Since he only has one year left they could eat some salary. The question is how do you convince him to move on, he has NMC.
Hayes ruined this moment 😂🇨🇦😄
Leafs should not move to far from the center 🇨🇦😁
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Nice to laugh about a serious situation in sports 🇨🇦✔😁
Do I need to keep pointing out that the odonkey is a complete joke...
He opens his mouth and day after day embarrasses himself. Another great bet by him saying the canes would win tonight. Completely clueless.
Ken Holland helped us with our cross roads 😁🇨🇦
Green bay Packers worldview Hayes🌐😄🇨🇦🇺🇸
Tavares had one good season in Toronto he has done nothing to improve his game. He's no captain, no leader can't inspire a team.
What's his worth???
A pail of pucks
He doesn’t do much out there now. Coach didn’t really figure it out either. I did not want the Tavares signing.
Bro said Herbert’s overrated 😂😂 another horrific take by o-dog
Pierre is ripping off Matthew McConaughey when he says his stupid saying at the end of his interview.
Send Matthews Willy & JT to Robidas island go get McDavid, Tanev, Pesche, Hellerbuyck and bring them for playoffs worked for Vegas last year nearly worked again this year 🤔😏😜🤪🤣
Here is a better question to ask TSN.. Is Mitch Marner the wimpiest person to ever play in the NHL?
Leafs are garbage
Tavares 3rd line C at 3m, Reilly 3rd pairing D man on a shitty team for 4m . Quenville to finally bury that god awful dump and chase bs. We have elite talent and they need the puck and not be constantly chasing n fighting for it in the corners. Reilly is the worst playmaking D man in the business, and like Tavares he is soft and wouldn't hurt a fly , there is a reason why he is hardly ever injured.
Tavares is so slow he ruins anyone he plays with
No market for these 2 losers. Leafs can trade them for a bag of pucks if any takers.
Matthews is the one that should be traded. He will bring back the most because of his signed contract. And he just might agree to a trade to a US based city.
Bag of pucks & stack of sticks .. 🏒 .. It’s about the cap & changing the makeup that’s the real worth stop trying to get “Value for value” as you never will.