I just think the marketing wasn’t up to par. I heard about it every time she released something and then it’ll died after that. I’ve never seen any women wear it publicly.
As a person that's currently studying social media marketing this pod was fantastic. Demaris thanks for the break down. I conflicting information out there can leave you feeling discouraged but this pod was great!
I felt like they weren’t delivering on the Ivy Park topic at first, but they started making points that made sense to me. Beyonce is not known for her personal style, despite always serving a red carpet. She’s very glamorous and sophisticated, so the Ivy Park designs didn’t all make sense for her. Now had she done behind the scenes content with her and her dancers practicing or working out in the more athletic stuff, it may have helped.
Your position on birthday texts is so funny! I love getting a bunch of birthday texts. The more I get the happier I am 🤣 But, I LOVE my birthday so I may be different 🤣🤣🤣
There’s no fan base that’s any crazier than the other. The Bey Hive and The Barbz are more notable fan bases but if you’ve ever ventured over to Stan Twitter then you’ll know every artists fans are nuts 😂
I'm just gonna say it, outside of music, Beyoncé is not as culturally influential as Rihanna. People admire Beyoncé but want to BE (like) Rihanna, that's why she moves product with such ease. Nobody is buying into the image of Beyoncé outside of music because she's just not relatable like that imo 🤷🏾♀️
@@prettystreetchic exactly! Rihanna is attainable from a consumer standpoint, if I buy her products maybe I can be like her, even the way she acts, she's so down to earth and "normal" you probably have a home girl with a similar vibe. Beyoncé gives elitist "superstar", we don't know much about her, she's elusive, only pops out to make announcement, appears perfect on camera etc. that works for the music, but that doesn't translate when marketing product to everyday people, esp not sportswear 😂
I love the seriousness about the topic, convo was dope when u started mention data and the opening that 4th wall, who better to talk about data then the ppl that essentially benefit off it. Dope show keep the content rolling !
The problem with Ivy Park is that it was hard to get and barely any marketing from Adidas (Beyoncé barely posts). It should’ve been more accessible and pushed to more everyday influencers
Agree, SKIMS is mass-produced while IVY PARK was a handful per Adidas store... Ivy had a high demand with low production and missed their opportunity.....
The reason why IVY PARK didn't pop is because the truth is no one has ever looked at Beyonce as a fashion Icon and Rihanna is. Julian said it "she is not looked at in fashion" Baby D it would not have mattered who she sent that big box to. However you are correct she did not wear her stuff out, Mal is way off in his take about this and it would not have mattered if she was with Nike with Balmain or whatever she does not translate in fashion. House of Dereon didnt work and the same with IVY PARK and this is the 2nd remix. People don't remember Rihanna began to pop with Fenty Puma before Fenty makeup hit Sephora and then came Fenty Savage. Truth be told in fashion circles Rihanna and ASAP Rocky are looked at as more fashionable than Jay Z and Beyonce. IVY PARK makes me think IVY League and there is nothing fashionable about that not to mention that they clowned IVY PARK saying the clothes looked like Popeyes Chicken uniforms. Beyonce is beloved as the top top entertainer the Queen but is not looked with the same high regard in fashion. Remember prior to getting super weird Kanye really knew how to dress it translated to Nike Yeezy Red Octobers and then to Yeezys. Pharrell was really into fashion before BBC so him being creative director of Louis Vuitton makes sense. People need to believe you in fashion for it to hit and if you out and about not even wearing your own stuff it wont translate
I thought the CEO said his kids lived in Singapore where TikTok isn’t available. I know they’ve been trying to get them out for about 4-5 years now, think it’s a matter of national security and how probable China could assess their data. The US government should be concerned.
For real lol...they wanna be different so bad. They don't wanna look like a podcast. These gentlemen don't have passion for poddin. Mal is forever saying 'i don't care...."
42:18 As a former Uber driver I can confirm that I did judge the rider as they walked up and that would determine if we listened to 2 or 46 on Sirius…😂😂 Sometimes I didn’t care, like if there’s a game on… we listening to this game…
Nah, Nike couldn't have saved Bey. The clothes just weren't wearable. Rihanna was successful because she found a hole in the beauty industry and filled it. People weren't purchasing stuff just because it was Rihanna, but because it was a needed foundation shade.
As someone who isn’t religious I’m trying Ramadan out for a spiritual challenge one week in and it’s pretty tough, decided to take a small cheat meal and glass of water in the middle of the day from now on because I almost fell asleep on the Highway lmao
Totally agree with Baby D on the Bey Adidas collab. Wear your own brand, make it believable! They used to have Ivy Park sell out in 10 secs online! The Fake Sold out thing is getting old. So many people loved her pieces and couldnt get it. So on to bigger and better at Balmain.
“RIHANNA navy is chill” 2 mins later... “ “I’m definitely putting a bullet into somebody over Rihanna for sure” and she was so proud to say that like ewwww. “man breaks into RIHANNAS home to propose to her” but yeah ok they chill alright I def didn’t get death threats from them
On the Beyoncé topic We don’t wear ivy Park because it’s not accessible to us normal people second to Demaris point where are we going to wear some of these dramatic looks to in our real life ? I Love Beyoncé but she just doesn’t know how to market herself in the fashion field that’s the Difference between her and Rihanna Riri has a look and a style that we can pin point and Beyoncé is trying to figure out what’s her look to sell Plus Beyoncé needs to wear her own clothes so we can see how she styles it at events. Hopefully this is a better understanding because y’all just up here tip toing around what it is.
Beyonce being in everybody's algorithm is nuts... because not 1 time has Beyonce popped up in any of my algorithms on any of my social media. Dr. Umar Johnson and Rizza Islam however,seem to be stalking me🤣
Problem with TikTok is that being a Chinese company, and how the Chinese government is structured, Bytedance will have to provide the Chinese government any information they want
Ivy Park is dope!! Feels like present her and supporting her at the same time. You can wear anywhere & every where. Dress it up and down. Now I’m not going to her concerts so I just recently bought some more ivy park stuff!
I checked out Ivy Park every time there was a drop. I was willing to spend money on something special but there was never anything I would actually wear that would justify me spending that much.
Listen the last 15 mins was by far the funniest thing ever cause I think Johnathan major really forgot what color he was 😂😂😂 listen brothers yah better listen to Dr.Umar
The owner of TikTok did not say that he would not allow his kid - they asked him a question that if he could would he and he said yes but in Signapore the law is over 13 , then he was asked what if it was here , and he said yes he would if they live in the states.
Y'all definitely should do more conversations about PR and marketing I really enjoyed the Ivy Park Convo
I haven't listened yet, but I bet Rory got in his bag for this.
@@MyWillBeDone they all did, but Julian and Baby D held it DOWN
@@TheLarryWilson still listening... facts, Baby D and Julian cooking!
Agreed! I really enjoyed hearing everyone's opinions and questioning each other!
I just think the marketing wasn’t up to par. I heard about it every time she released something and then it’ll died after that. I’ve never seen any women wear it publicly.
D made the best point. Where would I wear Bey’s line? Those aren’t everyday clothes for my lifestyle.
mal repeatedly saying "they shoulda made tekashi strip" is the craziest sentence he's ever uttered
It's honestly the most New York old school thing he could've ever said. If you know you know😂
@@emartinez7733 i know what it is, i just think its hilarious that he kept repeating it like no one heard him
Mal on the Jonathan Majors bit had me in tears🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
agreed
Took me out. 😂😂
Top 10 pod moment
Happy birthday to Demaris! And her saying "you just big!" Got me in tears! 🤣
Should not have had me dying like that😭😭
You just big was craaazy 😂😂
@@laurenjackson2810flag on the play😂😂
S/o to Demaris for being the only one who was honest about Beyonce and Ivy Park
The Uber driver playing ' Story pf OJ' for Mal is CRAZY
..when Lady D mentioned she just want to be happy it hit home for me. Big ups another great podding
When Mal said Jonathan Majors bout to be on Tubi i fuckin screamed
😂😂
As a person that's currently studying social media marketing this pod was fantastic. Demaris thanks for the break down. I conflicting information out there can leave you feeling discouraged but this pod was great!
Rory silence during the Jonathan Majors segment lol 😂😂😂😂😂
I felt like they weren’t delivering on the Ivy Park topic at first, but they started making points that made sense to me. Beyonce is not known for her personal style, despite always serving a red carpet. She’s very glamorous and sophisticated, so the Ivy Park designs didn’t all make sense for her. Now had she done behind the scenes content with her and her dancers practicing or working out in the more athletic stuff, it may have helped.
I usually just listen but seeing the little icons they chose to sit next to their IG handles was HILARIOUS hahaha. It's the little things hahah
Agreed 😂😂
Rorys face, while Mal talking about Jonathan Majors....(mad uncomfortable) had me weeeakkkk! Mal you a fool 🤣😂
Eddins laugh at 1:30:10 is crazy 🤣🤣🤣
lmaooo omg
he came out the closet there
That laugh was craaaazy 😭 sounded like a gremlin or something
ITS THE FUNNIEST SHIT I EVER HEARD FAM!!!😂😂😂
Your position on birthday texts is so funny! I love getting a bunch of birthday texts. The more I get the happier I am 🤣 But, I LOVE my birthday so I may be different 🤣🤣🤣
I want all the well wishes on my Facebook wall, I'm traditional
I think most women would like it men we don’t care lol
I need 30 mins of Mal naming places Jonathan Majors gonna end up if he keep choking white women LMAOOOO
The way Iaughed at this episode...last 10 min...gold...😂😂😂🤣
That jonathon majors breakdown was so outta pocket lolll
Mal went from “don’t ever say algariza to me” to being an algorithm expert.
I thought I was the only one who remembered that 😂 Seeing Mal grow has been hilarious
Lmao, OGs know.
Next he gonna pop up with a girlfriend. The growth is nice to watch
Lmaooooo
📠📠📠
I love this show and will follow you wherever you go. But can we get some skits. I go back and watch the first skit alot. Can we get more???
There’s no fan base that’s any crazier than the other. The Bey Hive and The Barbz are more notable fan bases but if you’ve ever ventured over to Stan Twitter then you’ll know every artists fans are nuts 😂
I'm just gonna say it, outside of music, Beyoncé is not as culturally influential as Rihanna. People admire Beyoncé but want to BE (like) Rihanna, that's why she moves product with such ease. Nobody is buying into the image of Beyoncé outside of music because she's just not relatable like that imo 🤷🏾♀️
Facts! Riri is just more relatable and gives homegirl vibes. Bey is elite dont make eye contact vibes.
That’s a fact
@@prettystreetchic exactly! Rihanna is attainable from a consumer standpoint, if I buy her products maybe I can be like her, even the way she acts, she's so down to earth and "normal" you probably have a home girl with a similar vibe. Beyoncé gives elitist "superstar", we don't know much about her, she's elusive, only pops out to make announcement, appears perfect on camera etc. that works for the music, but that doesn't translate when marketing product to everyday people, esp not sportswear 😂
“No creep shit” is elite 😂
100% the designs were the issue. Ivy Park wasn’t something the average person would wear from day to day
I love the seriousness about the topic, convo was dope when u started mention data and the opening that 4th wall, who better to talk about data then the ppl that essentially benefit off it. Dope show keep the content rolling !
Yall were cooking with that Jonathan Majors segment 😂
Not having Baby D lead the conversation about Beyoncé and her female clothing line is hilarious
The problem with Ivy Park is that it was hard to get and barely any marketing from Adidas (Beyoncé barely posts). It should’ve been more accessible and pushed to more everyday influencers
Agree, SKIMS is mass-produced while IVY PARK was a handful per Adidas store... Ivy had a high demand with low production and missed their opportunity.....
Not the chew advertisement 😂. That was nasty.
1:13:13 "When you intentionally send your mentally unstable squad after people..."
"Oh you're talking about Nicki?"
"wHaT? nO!" 😂
The reason why IVY PARK didn't pop is because the truth is no one has ever looked at Beyonce as a fashion Icon and Rihanna is. Julian said it "she is not looked at in fashion" Baby D it would not have mattered who she sent that big box to. However you are correct she did not wear her stuff out, Mal is way off in his take about this and it would not have mattered if she was with Nike with Balmain or whatever she does not translate in fashion. House of Dereon didnt work and the same with IVY PARK and this is the 2nd remix. People don't remember Rihanna began to pop with Fenty Puma before Fenty makeup hit Sephora and then came Fenty Savage. Truth be told in fashion circles Rihanna and ASAP Rocky are looked at as more fashionable than Jay Z and Beyonce. IVY PARK makes me think IVY League and there is nothing fashionable about that not to mention that they clowned IVY PARK saying the clothes looked like Popeyes Chicken uniforms. Beyonce is beloved as the top top entertainer the Queen but is not looked with the same high regard in fashion. Remember prior to getting super weird Kanye really knew how to dress it translated to Nike Yeezy Red Octobers and then to Yeezys. Pharrell was really into fashion before BBC so him being creative director of Louis Vuitton makes sense. People need to believe you in fashion for it to hit and if you out and about not even wearing your own stuff it wont translate
“You just big” lmfao 😭😭
Baby D is kinda tapped in with the sneaker/fashion community. I see you 🤝🏾
Y'all boys getting alotta hate lately but I love this pod.. Keep grinding fellaz!!
The place is Svalbard. I’ve had it in my weather app for a minute to look at the quick sunset. It’s normal rn tho.
Demaris was cookin this episode!
Both fanbases are insane
3:24 so we just gonna let rory get off “RAMA-BOND”?!!! 💀💀💀
Bars ☝🏼🤲🏼
Mal was grasping straws at the Ivy Park conversation...
Mal is 100% correct. Beyonce x Nike would have sold out
Reading a Blue Chew promo ad from your phone guys come on now. Yall should do a funny pre recorded skit
That would be nice
Rorrrrryyy and Maaaaal. Love y’all ❤
BTW When Mal painted his nails and said it was art. I never forgot it
“He got… Stomp the Yard” . One of Mal’s best rants! Hilarious
imagine eating Blue chew during Ramadan😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
These numbers wild cuh🤦🏼♂️….and holding the mics to be different🤦🏽♂️
I thought the CEO said his kids lived in Singapore where TikTok isn’t available. I know they’ve been trying to get them out for about 4-5 years now, think it’s a matter of national security and how probable China could assess their data. The US government should be concerned.
I ain’t gonna lie y’all gotta get mic stands or something. Seeing ya hold them mics for an hour and thirty minutes is making my arms hurt.
For real lol...they wanna be different so bad. They don't wanna look like a podcast. These gentlemen don't have passion for poddin. Mal is forever saying 'i don't care...."
Maybe shirt clip mics
Lets go back to a time when "Content Creators" didn't exist
how many videos does the $10 tier get ever month? because it’s been almost 2 weeks with no “more rory and mal” video*
Not much anymore more, I had to pay that extra $10
Next show can yall have a topic on the Jim Crow style situation going on in Jackson, Mississippi?!
@1:31:00 What happened to old boy from the Chi. He's not even doing Tubi movies. Is he?
When tf is Julian going to get the real friend of the show on the pod: Jason Derulo
I ain’t seen a soul wear Nocta bruh. How do we know Drake is killing it?
Demaris's attitude is different every episode. Shes not consistent at all. We know what to expect from the rest of the crew
Julian B took me out🤣🤣
42:18 As a former Uber driver I can confirm that I did judge the rider as they walked up and that would determine if we listened to 2 or 46 on Sirius…😂😂
Sometimes I didn’t care, like if there’s a game on… we listening to this game…
Nah, Nike couldn't have saved Bey. The clothes just weren't wearable. Rihanna was successful because she found a hole in the beauty industry and filled it. People weren't purchasing stuff just because it was Rihanna, but because it was a needed foundation shade.
both of them looking off to the side when Julian says Selena sends me!!!
Mal been podding 🔥🔥🔥😂‼️
As someone who isn’t religious I’m trying Ramadan out for a spiritual challenge one week in and it’s pretty tough, decided to take a small cheat meal and glass of water in the middle of the day from now on because I almost fell asleep on the Highway lmao
Be Careful Homie
Take your breaks when you need them & fill up right before sunrise & you’ll be all good for the day.
I used to be religious but a lot of my family still is so I participate in Lent which is pretty much Ramadan
Totally agree with Baby D on the Bey Adidas collab. Wear your own brand, make it believable! They used to have Ivy Park sell out in 10 secs online! The Fake Sold out thing is getting old. So many people loved her pieces and couldnt get it. So on to bigger and better at Balmain.
Mal went in on Jonathan Major we need more of that checking on the BS our black stars do🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
HAPPY B DAY BABY D! She really fire, lol
Demaris gonna swing on Julian sometime soon
Eddin is the most unproblematic crew member. He takes the jokes, always has a positive attitude and has great energy every ep. I enjoy him so much.
1:33:09 "which white woman?"
me: Gwyneth Paltrow
Happy birthday, Demaris 🥳🎈🎂
Did Mal just use the word “striation?!” 😂
Haven’t laughed at Mal’s jokes so hard since the old pod on that Jonathan majors segment 😭
I fast forward to this section to see if it was a funny as you said....and it wasn't ..thanks for wasting more of my time with these ppl
@@avonwalker9067 Is someone holding a literal gun to your head and making you watch this? 😂
Mal went the fuk off when talking about Jonathan Majors. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. And so f'ing true
Julian do NOT call baby D a twunk!
The “Santa Clause Isn’t Real Anymore” Line Might Be A Top 5 Bar In His Discog
“RIHANNA navy is chill” 2 mins later... “ “I’m definitely putting a bullet into somebody over Rihanna for sure” and she was so proud to say that like ewwww. “man breaks into RIHANNAS home to propose to her” but yeah ok they chill alright I def didn’t get death threats from them
MAL WILD for that India Love take 😂😂😂
On the Beyoncé topic We don’t wear ivy Park because it’s not accessible to us normal people second to Demaris point where are we going to wear some of these dramatic looks to in our real life ? I Love Beyoncé but she just doesn’t know how to market herself in the fashion field that’s the Difference between her and Rihanna Riri has a look and a style that we can pin point and Beyoncé is trying to figure out what’s her look to sell Plus Beyoncé needs to wear her own clothes so we can see how she styles it at events. Hopefully this is a better understanding because y’all just up here tip toing around what it is.
Also, her last clothing line failed too
RIHANNAS clothing line DIDNT do well 😭
Mals go-to move in pressing a troll is for him to "strip" is a little crazy
Beyonce being in everybody's algorithm is nuts... because not 1 time has Beyonce popped up in any of my algorithms on any of my social media. Dr. Umar Johnson and Rizza Islam however,seem to be stalking me🤣
FOR SURE a lot of thigh for the torso cover-up ratio LMAO!
Problem with TikTok is that being a Chinese company, and how the Chinese government is structured, Bytedance will have to provide the Chinese government any information they want
1:30:37 hiding her like anne frank is nuts 💀
💀😂😂
From a fellow Aries- Happy birthday baby dee. My b-day is today. The big 43
Damarius… “y’all know I support violence” Ha!! We know!!
Lol
Shiggy catching strays 🤣😂🤣😭🤣🤣🤣
Ivy Park is dope!! Feels like present her and supporting her at the same time. You can wear anywhere & every where. Dress it up and down. Now I’m not going to her concerts so I just recently bought some more ivy park stuff!
Wide Open during the holy month is crazy fam
37:11 hilarious but more apps should do that too.
“He showed Jussie how to do it” 😭😭😭
I've never related to something more than when she said, "Idk, but I think chicken selects were on the McDonald's menu."
I checked out Ivy Park every time there was a drop. I was willing to spend money on something special but there was never anything I would actually wear that would justify me spending that much.
Listen the last 15 mins was by far the funniest thing ever cause I think Johnathan major really forgot what color he was 😂😂😂 listen brothers yah better listen to Dr.Umar
Take a shot every time Mal says nigga lol
You'll have alcohol posioning
Y'all just finding out someone is in charge of who blows up and who doesn't lol 🤣🤣🤣
Mal is correct. Nobody jackin adidas unless it’s Yeezy. Let’s be honest
Mal said why not embarrass him?? That’s not embarrassing?? Do everything the Mal way 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂💪🏾
I'm Muslim did a 30 day water only fast. Most clarity I've ever had in my life.
Feel like it was just me and Eddin that peeped baby D tellin Mal “lemme see” when describing his inner thigh bruise
Last time I went to the mall it was super packed. What is Demaris talking about? People like to shop still! Y'all so misinformed 😂
Na ion like how yall jus let Rory get that Rama-Bond line off nd not address that🤣🤣
The owner of TikTok did not say that he would not allow his kid - they asked him a question that if he could would he and he said yes but in Signapore the law is over 13 , then he was asked what if it was here , and he said yes he would if they live in the states.