With that crony you have to back up a little more. The co2 blast will miss with the reading. Also you have to reset the crony after a Err ready, it may get stuck
Nice video. I would have like to get your final comparison decision. You said this one is not of your top 5 but which one would be in this trop 5 now? Thank you.
Hehe Brother, that is a constantly moving needle. The industry has blown up and we are getting new offerings all the time. It really just depends on your use or needs.
Thanks for the review. I think I will be passing on this one. Have you tried the 50 or the 68 cal Paintball Gun Ball Maker to make your own balls? I`ve seen few videos on them. It might be cheaper them buying the balls and slugs all the time.
Greetings! I have indeed (for the shotgun). Those things will fire, pretty much, anything you can get in the chamber. I am in the process of making the .43 cal pepperballs atm. It’s very slow and tedious work :-)
🤔Hmmmm... I can see why it’s not in the top 5. I like the size, but 4 capacity and using the harder to find 8g cartridges seems like a no-go. Thanks for the reviews, I’m really enjoying your channel since I subbed!
Such a cute little bugger. I really wanted it to be good. Mine is red. The mag got stuck permanetly. tried to fix , no go. You know there's a power screw on the back? but turned up all the way it's only 6 joules
Yeah, it was the most impressive and it certainly feels “cheap“. I think, if I were to grab one out of my case to defend myself with, this might be the last one I would select :) perhaps it can be modded, we shall see :-)
I have question,i want buy Byrna but idk if is real good quality,and if SD is new one from 2022,or if they will put out on this year new model with include fix 12g co2…!thx
The Byrna is absolutely fantastic. You might notice, I’m actually carrying the Byrna on my right hip. I alternate between that and the Glock 17 in the last video. The truth is, they’re both fantastic. Thank you so much for watching!
I personally do not like the look of the G lock 17, I held a real steel h&k vp9 today which felt good but didn't love the mag release. Trying to decide the M&P vs the VP9 from umarex but would like to see a real comparison compared to the byrna. Byrna looks bigger than they are letting on, especially compared to a 1:1 scale umarex t4e.
I'll tell you what I've noticed about the m&p.. I just got one and I'm slightly disappointed. The trigger is terrible. It is a super heavy pull. The mag release needs to be pressed to put the mag IN(for some reason, it interferes with the mag going in. Not sure if that's just a flaw with mine though) I kind of like my cheap HDP50 better, it feels more powerful and sounds better. But the thing does look great. The slide lock is kind of silly, it locks like 1 inch back. It looks more like an out of battery than an empty mag, but I think they all do that. I really don't want to talk you out of it, because they all might be that way. I don't know yet. I've only got the hdp50 and the m&p 2.0... I think I'm going to get the TPM1(imitation glock) and see if they all feel like my m&p. I need to do it soon so I can return my m&p plus extra mag if it's just a lemon... It has fired well and the co2 seems like it would last pretty long. I did 4 mags before degassing and was surprised how much gas came out. It also did a nice "group"(one single hole) at self defense range of approx 7 feet..
@@AlternateArmsSD that's great! The byrna is the only .68 I could find that looks less like a toy. Revolvers are not something I would carry so the only .50 I could find is the one t4e training launcher, .43 has lots of options I've found but a comparison showing the what makes each one the choice over the others would be nice.
@@erict3728 good day sir. I finally broke down and bought a ppq43 a few days ago. I have limited experience with semi-autos I always carried a Smith & Wesson 19 or a 41 revolver. Having said that I had read a lot about these before deciding to get one. The consensus was the ppq43 was the best not getting into comparing it to the new glock gen 5. The PPQ from what I understand was the first of these 43 caliber pistols. I read it was the most reliable and had the best trigger. I shot mine for the first time today using the only rounds I have The solid aluminum balls from riot balls. They're listed as Weighing approximately 1.9 grams not grain so they're reasonably heavy. I fired approximately 40 of these through it and then the released the gas from the cartridge slowly, not much came out. The build quality seems good I had no misfires and I had read that these particular riot balls made of solid aluminum cycle quite well through these 43 caliber pistols. I would say they pack a good punch close quarters using these particular aluminum rounds. Also, before firing these I put in the spring labeled rubber balls as these are actually heavier than those. It's interesting the trigger squeeze I think is basically like a revolver as it I believe feeds the ball in however since I was so used to my Smith & Wesson it felt vaguely familiar and I actually found the point at which I could stop and then squeeze. As I'm sure everybody knows these are not a replacement to firearms they're just another avenue to possibly protect one's self . I had read the Smith & Wesson 43 caliber had trigger problems in terms of it being heavy to pull through and an inheritant problem with the magazine release button breaking. I might suggest that you depress the magazine button every time you insert the magazine and then release that just before pushing it up the final quarter of an inch in. I tested that on the PPQ and it was quite effective I believe it takes some stress off these pistols. Jon does a good job here a lot of time and money is involved and I certainly appreciate it. Also, if anybody is interested Hogue manufacturers different grip sleeves for pistols. These are not the stick-on kind they may make those as well these are the ones that you slide on with a fair amount of force and get into place. The one that fits the ppq43 is item number 17600 it is shown to be a precise fit for the sig Sauer p320 full size. It also is supposed to fit quite well the ppq43 as well as the actual firearm. These are somewhere around $12 plus shipping. Also, T a l o n and likely others make grips that are self-adhesive. I hope you have a good night.
100% correct! It falls in that “pepperball lifelite” category as it has limited ammunition and the smaller cartridge. It was bad for velocity though. Thanks for watching!
Yeah, it has that in common with the HDP50 compact. If you only have 4, they need to hit like a freight train. A fully modded HDP50 compact certainly does.
I did indeed, however, Lancer tactical only has the hornet in the scorpion listed for sale currently. If they do bring back the larger one, we will definitely get it on the channel. Thanks for watching!
You know, that was my first impression too. The strange thing is, it kind of grows on you as weird as that sounds. It loads like no other magazine I’ve ever seen :-) it would be simple enough to keep a few in your pocket if you had to use it in an emergency situation but, you’re right, it is strange :-)
I bet if you made a plastic printed part for the C02 pusher......Ahhhh Nvm 😂😂😂😂😂 Joke this definitely looks more like a Toy 4 Rounds 🤡 Looks like a clown gun and for 129 bucks No Thanks it does seem to have some power to it
Great video, fewer rounds is a no-start.
Yeah, that's a definite issue.
Thanks again for your work. I would say the biggest downfall of that particular pistol is the four rounds.
With that crony you have to back up a little more. The co2 blast will miss with the reading. Also you have to reset the crony after a Err ready, it may get stuck
Greets Jerry! Yeah, this is an older video. I learned this chrony, bit by bit, but now have it down :)
I found a re branded version of this, comes in blue or red it's called the Mercury Rise MUB
I sent them an email and never received a response. I’m trying to get one on the show. :)
I just got one it will be great self defense weapon just need more rounds per mag you can change the color of the gun easy
Yes you can (and I have a couple videos up on it) :)
Good little weapon for the right circumstamces. Great review of this launcher brother.
Thanks man!
Nice video. I would have like to get your final comparison decision. You said this one is not of your top 5 but which one would be in this trop 5 now? Thank you.
Hehe Brother, that is a constantly moving needle. The industry has blown up and we are getting new offerings all the time. It really just depends on your use or needs.
Thanks for the review. I think I will be passing on this one. Have you tried the 50 or the 68 cal Paintball Gun Ball Maker to make your own balls? I`ve seen few videos on them. It might be cheaper them buying the balls and slugs all the time.
Greetings! I have indeed (for the shotgun). Those things will fire, pretty much, anything you can get in the chamber. I am in the process of making the .43 cal pepperballs atm. It’s very slow and tedious work :-)
🤔Hmmmm... I can see why it’s not in the top 5. I like the size, but 4 capacity and using the harder to find 8g cartridges seems like a no-go. Thanks for the reviews, I’m really enjoying your channel since I subbed!
Thank you so much!! We get the good with the bad :) Have a great night!
Over Priced ! Good job Jon
Yuppers! Thanks Brother!
Such a cute little bugger. I really wanted it to be good. Mine is red. The mag got stuck permanetly. tried to fix , no go. You know there's a power screw on the back? but turned up all the way it's only 6 joules
Yeah, it was the most impressive and it certainly feels “cheap“. I think, if I were to grab one out of my case to defend myself with, this might be the last one I would select :) perhaps it can be modded, we shall see :-)
Is this able to be modified for increased velocity
Take a look at the MUB43 video man.. This is an interesting company :) Thanks for watching!
I can not handle the orange lol
I want the pistol grip 12-gauge that shoots two paper balls it's just going to be a while before I'm able to afford it
They are nice and easy to mod!
You need to fire straight through the chronograph to get a reading and that is a top end chronie
Thanks! I’ve gotten MUCH better since this video was made :) Thanks for watching!
I have question,i want buy Byrna but idk if is real good quality,and if SD is new one from 2022,or if they will put out on this year new model with include fix 12g co2…!thx
The Byrna is absolutely fantastic. You might notice, I’m actually carrying the Byrna on my right hip. I alternate between that and the Glock 17 in the last video. The truth is, they’re both fantastic. Thank you so much for watching!
I personally do not like the look of the G lock 17, I held a real steel h&k vp9 today which felt good but didn't love the mag release. Trying to decide the M&P vs the VP9 from umarex but would like to see a real comparison compared to the byrna. Byrna looks bigger than they are letting on, especially compared to a 1:1 scale umarex t4e.
The Byrna is larger (and lighter) than both of them. I’d be glad to set up a “best of” video on each caliber of you’d like :) Have a great night!
I'll tell you what I've noticed about the m&p.. I just got one and I'm slightly disappointed. The trigger is terrible. It is a super heavy pull. The mag release needs to be pressed to put the mag IN(for some reason, it interferes with the mag going in. Not sure if that's just a flaw with mine though) I kind of like my cheap HDP50 better, it feels more powerful and sounds better. But the thing does look great. The slide lock is kind of silly, it locks like 1 inch back. It looks more like an out of battery than an empty mag, but I think they all do that. I really don't want to talk you out of it, because they all might be that way. I don't know yet. I've only got the hdp50 and the m&p 2.0... I think I'm going to get the TPM1(imitation glock) and see if they all feel like my m&p. I need to do it soon so I can return my m&p plus extra mag if it's just a lemon... It has fired well and the co2 seems like it would last pretty long. I did 4 mags before degassing and was surprised how much gas came out. It also did a nice "group"(one single hole) at self defense range of approx 7 feet..
Yes, order from Amazon if possible, returns are great if necessary
@@AlternateArmsSD that's great! The byrna is the only .68 I could find that looks less like a toy. Revolvers are not something I would carry so the only .50 I could find is the one t4e training launcher,
.43 has lots of options I've found but a comparison showing the what makes each one the choice over the others would be nice.
@@erict3728 good day sir. I finally broke down and bought a ppq43 a few days ago. I have limited experience with semi-autos I always carried a Smith & Wesson 19 or a 41 revolver. Having said that I had read a lot about these before deciding to get one. The consensus was the ppq43 was the best not getting into comparing it to the new glock gen 5. The PPQ from what I understand was the first of these 43 caliber pistols. I read it was the most reliable and had the best trigger. I shot mine for the first time today using the only rounds I have The solid aluminum balls from riot balls. They're listed as Weighing approximately 1.9 grams not grain so they're reasonably heavy. I fired approximately 40 of these through it and then the released the gas from the cartridge slowly, not much came out. The build quality seems good I had no misfires and I had read that these particular riot balls made of solid aluminum cycle quite well through these 43 caliber pistols. I would say they pack a good punch close quarters using these particular aluminum rounds. Also, before firing these I put in the spring labeled rubber balls as these are actually heavier than those. It's interesting the trigger squeeze I think is basically like a revolver as it I believe feeds the ball in however since I was so used to my Smith & Wesson it felt vaguely familiar and I actually found the point at which I could stop and then squeeze. As I'm sure everybody knows these are not a replacement to firearms they're just another avenue to possibly protect one's self . I had read the Smith & Wesson 43 caliber had trigger problems in terms of it being heavy to pull through and an inheritant problem with the magazine release button breaking. I might suggest that you depress the magazine button every time you insert the magazine and then release that just before pushing it up the final quarter of an inch in. I tested that on the PPQ and it was quite effective I believe it takes some stress off these pistols. Jon does a good job here a lot of time and money is involved and I certainly appreciate it. Also, if anybody is interested Hogue manufacturers different grip sleeves for pistols. These are not the stick-on kind they may make those as well these are the ones that you slide on with a fair amount of force and get into place. The one that fits the ppq43 is item number 17600 it is shown to be a precise fit for the sig Sauer p320 full size. It also is supposed to fit quite well the ppq43 as well as the actual firearm. These are somewhere around $12 plus shipping. Also, T a l o n and likely others make grips that are self-adhesive. I hope you have a good night.
defense, gun's, ammo and ammo.
Woohoo! :)
Can you conceal carry this without a carry permit?
Check the laws in your state, but these are not considered firearms.
Can you use aluminum balls in it
You can BUT I’d look at the Salt Supply S2 video. It packs quite a bit more power.
16 round drum and/or stick magazine capacity
As I recall, the hornet was 5 rounds.
Hey John I'm trying to get afsc pistol sent to me I live in Illinois they won't send it to me is there any ideas you can come up with
Shoot me an email brother. I may have some ideas.
Jonreynoldscts@gmail.com
They need to fix it to make it 12 grams not 8 g CO2 and at least eight shot magazine, not 4
I could not agree more! Check out the lancer scorpion. That might be a tad more to your liking. If not, I have demoed TONS of other launchers :)
hey man I got a PPQ pistol that shoots pepper balls rubber steel balls and paintballs for self-defense do I need a license to concealed Carrie
Not that I have found but DEFINITELY check your local laws to be sure.
@@AlternateArmsSD I live in Texas
@@rickymoses9889 Then you are good to go. We are constitutional carry.
@@AlternateArmsSD I love you videos and I'm going to be watching them for now on
@@AlternateArmsSD but yeah I live in Port Arthur Texas yeah I got the brown PPQ pistol that you got
looked like movie magic at 7:43
R O F L … No, what you missed was the “curious vendor” realizing I was filming and freaking out :) Perhaps I’ll do a blooper real some day :)
I wasn't going to say anything haha. Hope you have a good night.
the hornet in my opinion would be better if it used 12gram C02 cartridges and used .68 cal balls
100% correct! It falls in that “pepperball lifelite” category as it has limited ammunition and the smaller cartridge. It was bad for velocity though. Thanks for watching!
Dam only 4 rounds
Yeah, it has that in common with the HDP50 compact. If you only have 4, they need to hit like a freight train. A fully modded HDP50 compact certainly does.
And did you know it has a big brother?
i wrote them re; the availability of the bigger one (.50 12g) they said it would be back but who knows
I did indeed, however, Lancer tactical only has the hornet in the scorpion listed for sale currently. If they do bring back the larger one, we will definitely get it on the channel. Thanks for watching!
Mag seems cheap
You know, that was my first impression too. The strange thing is, it kind of grows on you as weird as that sounds. It loads like no other magazine I’ve ever seen :-) it would be simple enough to keep a few in your pocket if you had to use it in an emergency situation but, you’re right, it is strange :-)
I bet if you made a plastic printed part for the C02 pusher......Ahhhh Nvm 😂😂😂😂😂 Joke this definitely looks more like a Toy 4 Rounds 🤡 Looks like a clown gun and for 129 bucks No Thanks it does seem to have some power to it
It does, but I would definitely use high-quality pepper balls.
do the byrna have good stopping power
Yes they do. They have a great kinetic round and there are TONS of after market rounds available too.