You are literally the best person I have ever seen on UA-cam.You're dry sense of humor knowing when to throw it in and when to not Is impeccable?I love your videos.Don't ever stop
I really liked CatDog. He/she was a special animal with a fun personality. I'm glad you featured him/her as much as you did as it always brought a smile to my face. And I can always watch reruns whenever I get nostalgic about CatDog.
I understand the dealer thing. I grew up on the Iron Range, my old man owned a logging company. We always used Still chainsaws only because of the dealer, we could set them outside the shop door at 8:00 PM, make a phone call and usually could pick it up at 6:00 AM. Dealers and service mater.
Sadly these days if you left your chainsaw outside the door at night, it would disappear. Good news though you'll probably find it at the local pawn shop in a few days. Then you'll be able to buy your own item back from them.
City slicker here... but i do know where our food comes from... turned on the radio this morning and heard the weather's gonna turn nasty soon in the midwest... hope you get the harvest in... take care, all the best.
Love you praise and comments on the dealership service. I have given you a hard time on twitter for being all green, but I am 100% jealous, we dont get that level of service from anyone here. that shows how excellent your dealer service department is. nice work midwest machinery!
I was only a farmer til I was 18 then left home on my own adventure and went to work for Boeing in 1965. Never went back to farming but always appreciated the life... Watch a lot of farming videos and can relate and understand. Keep up the Great work, Zack. Russ
Catdog was my favorite character this year on Millennial Farmer and I'm sad to see them go. All that money going into stunt doubles means there's not enough to provide the actor who plays Catdog with anything, I get it. Just wish it didn't have to be this way sometimes.
Oh dear. Reminds me of 1980s in New Zealand climbing into our old Claas Mercator and then IH 1480. Bearings in awful places. Shooting for parts. Thanks for the memories.
I just wanted to let you know how much my family loves your channel. I see your stuff on X/Twitter, and its encouraging to me that far away in MN there's another "Normal" family. Great content. My kids were sad about CatDog.
Quick lesson in understanding combines: the engine is running. The combine itself, thresher and other moving components where they are are NOT RUNNING. And yes, this needs to be done to diagnose the problem. You can’t diagnose a running problem without the equipment actually running. They are being safe. Well done, Zach and Zach’s Dad!!! You guys are awesome! ❤❤❤
I'm ok with that, but climbing up in there with prybars and such is not advisable while the engine is running. As I said, years gone by that would be totally fine, but nothing is mechanical anymore.
Stream light stylus pro USB! I've had mine for 8+ year and just now have developed a problem. I just have to send it in to be replaced... I've just been lazy and haven't. Still works just have to give it a tap to get full strength light🤷
I grew up on a feedlot. Using bailing wire to hold together a 60s John Deer combine with wood paddles. Trim steer Heston swather. No cabs. I feel your frustration. I love I can fast forward through it!
I watch a lot of farmers. Learned a lot, like what a shear bolt is & that farmers break a lot of them. How enormous the equipment is, how hard farming is on all the equipment & how unbelievably expensive parts are.
@@keemez oh I’m SURE! Bc the aviation industry is ALSO part of the military complex. We all know how the military complex overcharges us to pad their dark money projects.
Can't believe the writers wrote off Catdog. I hope there will a decent replacement in the upcoming seasons, however you never know what the team comes up with towards the end of each season. Sure tough to see that the Actor takes it that seriously. Let's hope for a spin-off with both of them!
Zach, I was thinking the same thing as far as sounded like something was stuck up inside of it. What threw me off was the periodic change of sound, glad you found it and no major damage.
Really loved the way you rolled from sad catdog news into the merch plug. Maybe you need to pay the stunt double less to get catdog back. Alternative.... start mentoring the other young kittens into catdog 2.0. Love the channel, writers, production crew, editors and actors! Keep the green rolling!
My friend used to live by Starbuck and she always praised Glenwood John Deere (Midwest Machinery?) for their great and prompt service on her lawn equipment.
I am amazed that you put your hand inside the combine mechanisms, do you not worry that somehow it might start and hurt you? You trust us engineers pretty hard!
Those bearings give ample indications that they're gonna fail if you do your pre-season service, take all the belts off the machine and rotate everything and put a prybar to the bearings to see how much play they got in them. We got four combines, including a 9870. I put 19 bearings in one of the S670's during pre-season service, that has 2000 separator hours on it. Easier to do them in the shop during pre-season than it is in the field when the machine has to run. I found that even the bearings in the vacuum fan for the rotary screen were nearing failure point. Plus chopper bearings, discharge beater bearings, feed accelerator bearings, front rotor bearing, all the jackshaft bearings in the screen and vacuum fan drives, elevator bearings, etc.. Them bearings aren't expensive (except for that front rotor bearing), but they're time consuming to put in. They get really expensive when you have to have the dealer come out to do it.
I was really starting to feel at home when the 9870 was making noises. Sounded just like my washing machine… then y’all fixed it. Oh well. Glad you’re back going!!!
You could tell it was either one of those bushings or the beater bearing with it coming from the back. We always replaced the bushings on the shaker arms and bearings every couple years. I'd replace the other side too. Bet it won't last long
Now retired but worked over 45 years in industrial maintenance so watching you troubleshoot and then repair the bad bearing brought back memories. Been at the end of that pry bar myself more than I can count. Enjoy the channel, sorry about Catdog. 😆
You played the CatDog saga just right. Good entertainment to accompany very interesting coverage of the combine breakdown. Hope all continues to run smooth
We had a hell of a time getting our 2388 ready for harvest this year. Low hours but still managed to find problems that took weeks to fix. They all break, new or old, any color. You're absolutely right, every farmer spends money repairing things!
We had the discharge beater go out on our 9760 right before the big snowstorm in Oct 2019. Was not fun to deal with. Also, i was probably sitting in line at the elevator in Enderlin, ND when that same CP train rolled through.
Just want you to know after a whole day having problems with stuff during harvest makes me feel better in the evenings to watch your videos where another farmer spends all day having problems with stuff. Thanks Zack!!
It does not matter what color your machinery is, it will all break eventually. So what is most important in our minds is how close and how good is the dealer. If you have a close dealer, but the service is total crap, we would go farther away.
Please don’t ever forget that you and your family are a piece of sanity in our world. I did the same work on a cattle ranch when young. I can relate to it all. Please keep going!
I really thought adding another million subscribers and giving Anna a combine ride would lift your spirits after CatDog left you but to each their own.
Seems like breakdowns tend to happen on bright sunny days when harvest conditions are great. A really frustrating item is when the neighbors are going and you're dead in the water. Thankfully you had the other combine going and making progress. Good service techs are priceless when repairs are beyond your abilities.
@@jamesmcintosh4664 Have no idea who that is James. Ironically that Profile pic looks just like me. I put it together myself using a couple different black and white images I ran across online.
Dad had a '68 Deere 45 combine. Remember well bearings going out on it during harvest. Dad had a sort of "golden ear" to detect them and he'd stop frequently and put oil on them to try make it through harvest. I always wondered if these bearings were just undersized or what. Seems like same problems continue with newer stuff. From the sound of this one, I was pretty sure it was a bearing someplace.
Hey Millennial Farmer, I always enjoyed watching Farmers Harvest their crops, and I hope to buy some land one day and become a farmer myself after I finish High school this year, because I'm only 19, My question is, Is it Hard to be a farmer, what are some positive and negative things about your job as a Farmer ? I hope you figure what's wrong with the Combine
Sorry to spoil your dream but it's damn near impossible for a young person to become a first generation farmer. My advice to you is go find employment at a well established farm if that's the kind of work you would like to do. Good luck
Zach: You need to add a modern small flashlight to your pocket load out. Get a good one and you’ll wonder how you got along without one. I use my Smartphone light occasionally and always think “Where’s my good light when I need it?” Sitting on my dresser. ☹️
Wow awesome response from your dealer..up here our dealer will show up a week after we call😂 and won't have the basic parts needed for any piece of equipment..but they really good at charging for overnight freight 🤣🤣🤣
A local farmer lost both legs a few months ago and everybody wondered how it could happen. By crawling in these tight spaces with the machinery still switched on, I can somehow comprehend how it _might_ happen when you are not *extremely careful* at all times!
Augers are way worse than combines. Combines are made to be worked on. It's actually amazing how they build them to have access to everything so they can be fixed on the fly. Cept for the electronics, of course. Augers are just made to eat everything, including you.
the one thing that makes things move forward and creates confidence between owner and seller is their Service Departments...if they suck, you lost. It is obvious they are aware of that and its the bread & butter of most companies.
The good news is that Combines only break down during harvest season, the rest of the year they work great!!
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Good one! 😏
Unless you need to start them.
I've been on the farm my whole life and you are correct, sir!
@@MillennialFarmerWe own a restaurant in Hackensack, MN. Equipment only breaks on busy days!
You are literally the best person I have ever seen on UA-cam.You're dry sense of humor knowing when to throw it in and when to not Is impeccable?I love your videos.Don't ever stop
"I'm not getting special treatment here, We'll probably just get invoices." I had a hearty laugh on that one! Thanks Zach!
I really liked CatDog. He/she was a special animal with a fun personality. I'm glad you featured him/her as much as you did as it always brought a smile to my face. And I can always watch reruns whenever I get nostalgic about CatDog.
I'm supporting you in this hard time being separated from cat dog
Sorry for your loss Zac.
I have to say that the "Safety Sally" in me gets the heebie-jeebies when you guys are in and under those machines with the engine running. 😱
I'm sad to see Catdog move on but glad to hear he/she's doing OK. You've still got the pups and they add their own dimension to the channel. Thanks.
You farmers do a lot of your own work, but it is obvious you all need a great service and parts department for your equipment. Great videos.
Absolutely!
I understand the dealer thing. I grew up on the Iron Range, my old man owned a logging company. We always used Still chainsaws only because of the dealer, we could set them outside the shop door at 8:00 PM, make a phone call and usually could pick it up at 6:00 AM. Dealers and service mater.
That’s the same reason my grandpa ran stihl saws in Missouri.
Sadly these days if you left your chainsaw outside the door at night, it would disappear. Good news though you'll probably find it at the local pawn shop in a few days. Then you'll be able to buy your own item back from them.
City slicker here... but i do know where our food comes from... turned on the radio this morning and heard the weather's gonna turn nasty soon in the midwest... hope you get the harvest in... take care, all the best.
Might be a good idea to change the bearing on the other side too. Insurance against delays !! It's the same age.
8:00 The Farmer & The Train Engineer with a nice little exchange. Very subtle but highly respectable moment.
Love you praise and comments on the dealership service. I have given you a hard time on twitter for being all green, but I am 100% jealous, we dont get that level of service from anyone here. that shows how excellent your dealer service department is. nice work midwest machinery!
Just wanted to say Thank you Zack for putting these videos out. Love watching them. 70 yr old fan in Montana
I am ( only ) 66 and i think the same !
From Quebec
I was only a farmer til I was 18 then left home on my own adventure and went to work for Boeing in 1965. Never went back to farming but always appreciated the life... Watch a lot of farming videos and can relate and understand.
Keep up the Great work, Zack.
Russ
Zack, I want Tee-Shirt with somehow incorporating "Five to Four:" love it!
Service techs deserve a raise, cool to see the 9870 wasnt too busted you had me worried after last video love those cold starts from that machine!
The best advice I can give anyone for purchasing any kind of equipment;
It will only ever be as good as the dealer/parts network in your area.
I'd buy Catdog merch for sure...I love Catdog and miss him/her already. I'm glad him/her is still alive and curious!
Can’t believe I missed this from 4 months ago…. I knew the problem right off… the machine is green.
Good evening from Ireland 🇮🇪Zach .
And this, folks, is what harvest is really like. Grovelling inside a combine.
Catdog was my favorite character this year on Millennial Farmer and I'm sad to see them go. All that money going into stunt doubles means there's not enough to provide the actor who plays Catdog with anything, I get it. Just wish it didn't have to be this way sometimes.
😉💔🤔😥
Catdog was a red shirt.
@@afacelessname1378
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Say it isn’t so
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Notice we haven't seen Catdog in some time and they/them 'going to the neighbors' just happens to coincide with the Screen Actors Guild strike.
Cat dog went to the “farm”
2 Full Trucks, and a little in the Grain truck. Sounds like a Country Song
Great video! Thanks not leaving us hanging too long for part 2. Hopefully the breakdowns are about done for you guys this year.
I worked for a John deere dealer road service for 10 years, I remember those late nights chasing machines around, especially during harvest
Nice to see you give props to Midwest Machinery & their techs!
Big props come along with a big bills and callout charges lol
Oh dear. Reminds me of 1980s in New Zealand climbing into our old Claas Mercator and then IH 1480. Bearings in awful places. Shooting for parts. Thanks for the memories.
I just wanted to let you know how much my family loves your channel.
I see your stuff on X/Twitter, and its encouraging to me that far away in MN there's another "Normal" family.
Great content. My kids were sad about CatDog.
We have plenty of cats 🤣 thanks for the support!
Great service from Midwest… Sunday night at dusk!
Quick lesson in understanding combines: the engine is running. The combine itself, thresher and other moving components where they are are NOT RUNNING. And yes, this needs to be done to diagnose the problem. You can’t diagnose a running problem without the equipment actually running. They are being safe. Well done, Zach and Zach’s Dad!!! You guys are awesome! ❤❤❤
Like a bunch of lost newborn calves in search of mama.
I'm ok with that, but climbing up in there with prybars and such is not advisable while the engine is running. As I said, years gone by that would be totally fine, but nothing is mechanical anymore.
Sounds like a f. D bush on feeder
@@byron7165 You should seen me climb into a running combine with a running chainsaw to clear a plug. That sucked.
@@byron7165 agree with you totally.
Lol. I wanted to shout through the phone where the noice comes from.
We had the same issue a few years back.
I've always figured you don't by a brand of equipment for name you buy it because have a good dealer that takes care of you.
Great service is worth everything. Pleased you got going without too much drama.
We need to start a collection to get Zach a real flashlight.
Stream light stylus pro USB!
I've had mine for 8+ year and just now have developed a problem. I just have to send it in to be replaced... I've just been lazy and haven't. Still works just have to give it a tap to get full strength light🤷
He would just leave it somewhere and still use his phone😂
I agree. I was thinking the same thing
Stylus pro
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I grew up on a feedlot. Using bailing wire to hold together a 60s John Deer combine with wood paddles. Trim steer Heston swather. No cabs.
I feel your frustration.
I love I can fast forward through it!
I watch a lot of farmers. Learned a lot, like what a shear bolt is & that farmers break a lot of them. How enormous the equipment is, how hard farming is on all the equipment & how unbelievably expensive parts are.
And trust me the prices would still shock you even knowing all of that. It’s crazy!
@@AlabamaLinemanFarmer oh I’ve heard. Ag equipment prices must be set by the govt, like $100 toilet seats for military budget.
if you think ag equipment/parts are expensive, best stay away from the aviation industry
@@keemez oh I’m SURE! Bc the aviation industry is ALSO part of the military complex. We all know how the military complex overcharges us to pad their dark money projects.
Glad you got your combine working again and sorry about catdog keep up the content loving channel
Can't believe the writers wrote off Catdog. I hope there will a decent replacement in the upcoming seasons, however you never know what the team comes up with towards the end of each season.
Sure tough to see that the Actor takes it that seriously. Let's hope for a spin-off with both of them!
I'm seeing a rising star in that new litter of kitties in the garage. I think the grey tabby might make the next season
Well said on the writers.. Super good timing.
🤣🤣 these comments Crack me up. I needed this today!
Catdog apparently tired to pull a Suzanne Sommers (RIP)and demand John Ritter’smoney
@MillennialFarmer after all that happened I'm sure you needed a laugh today. Catdog! Catdog! Catdog! Ahhh forget it. He/she's gone. Next kitty
Love the farm setup . Makes want to play on Midwest horizons again it’s always been one of my favorite maps
glad to know the cat found a home. There were probably more mice over at the neighbors.
Zach, I was thinking the same thing as far as sounded like something was stuck up inside of it. What threw me off was the periodic change of sound, glad you found it and no major damage.
Really loved the way you rolled from sad catdog news into the merch plug. Maybe you need to pay the stunt double less to get catdog back. Alternative.... start mentoring the other young kittens into catdog 2.0.
Love the channel, writers, production crew, editors and actors! Keep the green rolling!
When you hear the knocking fading in and out it makes sense that there is an imbalance! ie: bearing!😊
I'm glad the combine noise wasn't more expensive than it was!! We sure will miss Catdog though. Huge loss. 😢
My friend used to live by Starbuck and she always praised Glenwood John Deere (Midwest Machinery?) for their great and prompt service on her lawn equipment.
I am amazed that you put your hand inside the combine mechanisms, do you not worry that somehow it might start and hurt you? You trust us engineers pretty hard!
found it hard to believe he climbed in while engine was running
You broke my heart with info of catdog......😂😂😂😂😂
I don't know. First Jim is out for the season and now Cat-Dog has left. It's becoming a rough harvest for us viewers out here.
My friends dog ran away and moved in with the next door neighbors. Talk about demoralizing...
One thing I have learned is it’s always a bearing. Even if it’s not a bearing, it’s a bearing.
I love your content! Have for a couple years now.
Please keep up the hard work and BE SAFE!!
Those bearings give ample indications that they're gonna fail if you do your pre-season service, take all the belts off the machine and rotate everything and put a prybar to the bearings to see how much play they got in them. We got four combines, including a 9870. I put 19 bearings in one of the S670's during pre-season service, that has 2000 separator hours on it. Easier to do them in the shop during pre-season than it is in the field when the machine has to run. I found that even the bearings in the vacuum fan for the rotary screen were nearing failure point. Plus chopper bearings, discharge beater bearings, feed accelerator bearings, front rotor bearing, all the jackshaft bearings in the screen and vacuum fan drives, elevator bearings, etc.. Them bearings aren't expensive (except for that front rotor bearing), but they're time consuming to put in. They get really expensive when you have to have the dealer come out to do it.
One step more would be to listen to bearings with a mechanics stethoscope.
You will hear a problem long before it actually fails.
I was really starting to feel at home when the 9870 was making noises. Sounded just like my washing machine… then y’all fixed it. Oh well. Glad you’re back going!!!
Catdog was my favorite side character the last seasons, I wish the writers had done more with him.
He was very uncooperative, to be honest. He was difficult to work with.
@@MillennialFarmerHe claims he was underpaid, overworked, and underfed.
Which, come to think of it, are the same complaints every cat has.
You could tell it was either one of those bushings or the beater bearing with it coming from the back. We always replaced the bushings on the shaker arms and bearings every couple years. I'd replace the other side too. Bet it won't last long
Now retired but worked over 45 years in industrial maintenance so watching you troubleshoot and then repair the bad bearing brought back memories. Been at the end of that pry bar myself more than I can count. Enjoy the channel, sorry about Catdog. 😆
You played the CatDog saga just right. Good entertainment to accompany very interesting coverage of the combine breakdown. Hope all continues to run smooth
We had a hell of a time getting our 2388 ready for harvest this year. Low hours but still managed to find problems that took weeks to fix. They all break, new or old, any color. You're absolutely right, every farmer spends money repairing things!
If it’s running it’s tearing up period! Like you said it doesn’t matter the color either as we’ve had red and green and both has their issues.
We had the discharge beater go out on our 9760 right before the big snowstorm in Oct 2019. Was not fun to deal with.
Also, i was probably sitting in line at the elevator in Enderlin, ND when that same CP train rolled through.
Somebody dig out the pool noodles the Safety Sallys are emerging. 😂
Just want you to know after a whole day having problems with stuff during harvest makes me feel better in the evenings to watch your videos where another farmer spends all day having problems with stuff. Thanks Zack!!
It does not matter what color your machinery is, it will all break eventually. So what is most important in our minds is how close and how good is the dealer. If you have a close dealer, but the service is total crap, we would go farther away.
And which one you'd rather work on
Combines no matter what color seems to be really bad for breakdowns no matter
Yup. Combines & other harvesters are very complex machines. They all have breakdowns and wear out parts often.
Please don’t ever forget that you and your family are a piece of sanity in our world. I did the same work on a cattle ranch when young. I can relate to it all. Please keep going!
I really thought adding another million subscribers and giving Anna a combine ride would lift your spirits after CatDog left you but to each their own.
glad to see you got moving again, i was always taught when combining and break down if you have to go inside it switch the engine off just a thought
If cat dog comes back you have to get some T-shirts made up!! I’d buy one for sure.. really enjoyed this video. Keep it up boss..
14:54 God be with you and CatDog 😅❤🖖🏼🇺🇸
Very hard to find services like that anymore that’s awesome ya you spend a ton of money but good deal having guys like them
Whenever you do a hearing you are always pleased it didn’t start a fire.
The 9870 is one of the best combines JD ever produced and still a very dependable machine
I want to see more of the older combine I like the noise it makes when the auger’s working.🤓👍🏻
What an absolute XXL plot twist in the story here with catdog, this is better writing than most modern tv shows
I always wondered about your brand loyalty, it’s so perfectly illustrated in the last two videos. That’s a good business partner you have up there!!
With farmers it's less about brand loyalty and more dealership loyalty. If the dealership is awesome then they'll take care of your stuff so it works.
The segway about Cat-Dog was hilarious! “In our time of need you could consider our merch store”. CLASSIC! 😂
Thanks for your time making the video watching from Reno NV
There may be more to the catdog story than meets the eye. Poor little thing may have a different story than Zac.
Seems like breakdowns tend to happen on bright sunny days when harvest conditions are great. A really frustrating item is when the neighbors are going and you're dead in the water. Thankfully you had the other combine going and making progress. Good service techs are priceless when repairs are beyond your abilities.
God Bless the American Farmers.
Why does your profile icon look very similar to network chuck
@@jamesmcintosh4664 Have no idea who that is James. Ironically that Profile pic looks just like me. I put it together myself using a couple different black and white images I ran across online.
Thanks for showing a city guy what real work looks like 👍. Toronto, Ontario Canada!
i would buy cat dog merch., you need to get him or her back!
TRAIN! I was typing out that we need a catdog shirt and then the outro popped on, ha!
Combine puzzles, the bigger machines have bigger problems. Keeping farmers in our prayers especially during harvest.
Midwest out of another location has been extremely helpful to me and friends also!
Dad had a '68 Deere 45 combine. Remember well bearings going out on it during harvest. Dad had a sort of "golden ear" to detect them and he'd stop frequently and put oil on them to try make it through harvest. I always wondered if these bearings were just undersized or what. Seems like same problems continue with newer stuff.
From the sound of this one, I was pretty sure it was a bearing someplace.
Cp rail..just retired from them last year. I’m in western Canada 🇨🇦.
We got done harvest last week🎉
what black mirror did you walk under and break before harvest this year?
It's called farming and a day that ends in Y
Harvesting calls for working all hours, and that's everybody in the farming community, farmers and vendors' staff.
Hey Millennial Farmer, I always enjoyed watching Farmers Harvest their crops, and I hope to buy some land one day and become a farmer myself after I finish High school this year, because I'm only 19, My question is, Is it Hard to be a farmer, what are some positive and negative things about your job as a Farmer ? I hope you figure what's wrong with the Combine
Sorry to spoil your dream but it's damn near impossible for a young person to become a first generation farmer. My advice to you is go find employment at a well established farm if that's the kind of work you would like to do. Good luck
We had a loud noise and one of our dog bone connected to the civ had slid almost off
Those field techs deserve a raise
Zach I'm sorry about the situation with Cat/Dog. Remembering the good times we all had with you and Cat/Dog. Onwards and upwards for all involved.
Zach: You need to add a modern small flashlight to your pocket load out. Get a good one and you’ll wonder how you got along without one.
I use my Smartphone light occasionally and always think “Where’s my good light when I need it?” Sitting on my dresser. ☹️
Wow awesome response from your dealer..up here our dealer will show up a week after we call😂 and won't have the basic parts needed for any piece of equipment..but they really good at charging for overnight freight 🤣🤣🤣
CatDog needs his own merch!
Same. When we had the farm that was the first thing I would tell the help. Shut the engine off when working inside it if there is a problem.
A local farmer lost both legs a few months ago and everybody wondered how it could happen. By crawling in these tight spaces with the machinery still switched on, I can somehow comprehend how it _might_ happen when you are not *extremely careful* at all times!
Augers are way worse than combines. Combines are made to be worked on. It's actually amazing how they build them to have access to everything so they can be fixed on the fly. Cept for the electronics, of course. Augers are just made to eat everything, including you.
Glad y'all got fixed up. Have a safe harvest. We're going to start up again Tuesday running beans in Ohio
It’s A+ customer service is what I call it.
the one thing that makes things move forward and creates confidence between owner and seller is their Service Departments...if they suck, you lost. It is obvious they are aware of that and its the bread & butter of most companies.