Shadow was supposed to be legitimately killed off. But his popularity led him to return. Congrats on beating it! Thank you for persevering! The Sonic way: it doesn't matter what happens. Never give up the fight
I think your biggest issue with the game beforehand was just pushing yourself too much to finish it, rather than stepping away once you got a bit frustrated, in which case just made it more difficult when it came to learning how each stage works. In that sense it's beneficial to replay some of the earlier stages, to get better with the gameplay and perhaps even grind some lives as well. Either way, its cool to see you persevere and have a bit more fun with the game.
@@robertpowell9982 Again, I invited that fatal mistake upon myself in my younger years. And much of that stubborn frustration was because I was managing severe insecurities stemming from a deep delusion that is now the foundation of my current self; I had to learn a fair bit of mindful temperance to both loosen my attachment to that identifier and lean into the flow of the game before I could git gud.
Way to go Dee!! 😁 The trick to SA2 is the billions of times we replayed those levels, we were mostly kids and had a different acceptance to jank than we do now. But yeah the game is not easy.
Honestly, that was amazing graphics back when that game came out, before the PS2 and GC when compared to PS1 and N64 this game was top line, I wouldn't put to to just young kids accepting jank
I dunno. Watching this playthrough has honestly been a struggle session of seeing someone blame the game for their own lack of intuition or basic ability. The Biolizard fight is a perfect example. Claiming "it's not that obvious on an old game" when there's a literal glowing pipe to grind on that lights up when the rest of the time it isn't glowing? Claiming the energy balls are unpredictable when they literally only come in two flavours: Up and down? And then saying there's no way to avoid them while literally doing nothing but press the jump button despite having literally made it to the final act of the game fully aware of the fact that there's a **ROLL BUTTON**? There's only so many times you can blame the game and call it janky before it becomes pretty evident that the person just plain wasn't paying any attention the entire time they played the game.
It can be said that Sonic games continue to have that 90s approach to video game difficulty, where the learning curve kinda smacks you over the head repeatedly until you start getting the hang of it.
No introduction, just straight into the gameplay, maximum dialed in. The determination is real. I wasn't sure if you'd finish this game at all, but I certainly wasn't expecting it so soon. Massive respect.
huge respect for you for finishing it man. its a classic and one of those games you definitely appreciate over time. Once you beat this game it's a real treasure to go back and play... janky and all.
There's an upgrade for Knuckles you missed in one of his previous levels... It would've let you breathe underwater. Most people can't complete this level without that upgrade. It took me a lot of tries, but I managed... The fact that you managed to _without a game over_ shows that you're *much* better at this game than you think.
I quite literally was genuinely depressed you seemed to hate SA2. It was heartbreaking to hear you struggle with it so hard, but seeing you fully enjoying the peak of sonic finales had me smiling so fucking wide. I'm proud of ya Dee!
The youtubers only want to see the story and they don't care about the fact that if you want to get good at Sonic games you need to replay the stages and study the level design, skips, character physics and capacities. That counts for almost every Sonic game. It's the philosophy of the franchise, however no one cares about that; instead they complain about the game being bad, too hard etc...
@@ritster21 Agreed. No one should be dying 87 TIMES on a single level. Back when I was like 11 I never died half that number ANYWHERE. Dan is just a terrible player, offensively meant or not
Overcoming challenge and adversity for the ultimate reward is the core of what made videogames videogames. The cycle this man went through on his journey with this game is videogames in their purest form.
That final chase run was genuinely impressive once you got the hang of those gravity drums, especially since you did most of the level on your first try - well done!
I knew it was gonna end like this. There would be no way he makes the title of the last video without a comearound. Now Dee knows how to hang on the edge of tomorrow.
So glad you decided to play again Dee and not give up. Appreciate your work and persistence on this one. Watching it now and excited for this new year gift lol. Enjoy your New Year Dee!
Right? I did it without the air necklace as a kid, but that level made me rage quit for months. I was only able to beat the stage after hogging air bubbles like I was on Life Support
I've never seen anyone do the Biolizard without using the Somersault. Watching him attempt to dodge the floating energy balls manually made it much more nailbiting.
@@TCBStudiosthe few times I have seen dee play games, he always end up hitting himself with a wall, he seems like a nice guy but I'm sure he's the reason the power rangers had to say their colors
It also didnt help that he didnt read or listen everytime Omochao told him he could summersault or jump the balls. He even acknowledged that he must be missing something but still wouldnt read the prompt. A win is a win though, even if he took the hard path to get there.
i will 100% agree that this game is in need of a remake, however, i still think for the most part it holds up i first played this game in 2022, i have absolutely zero nostalgia for it, and i really enjoyed it, it's one of my favorite sonic games of all time, though the best part is definitely the beginning, also i recommend continuing with the chao garden if it's something you enjoyed the ending is genuinely one of the most beautiful things i've seen in a video game even though shadow didn't actually die, i don't think that takes away from his sacrifice, he made a promise to maria to help the people and he's continuing to keep that promise all the way to today
"Why Gerald made Shadow look like Sonic" - There's a reason, but I don't think it's ever technically confirmed... Shadow came out of a 50 year stasis when this game started, so he's older than Sonic, but you might remember some murals in Sonic Adventure 1 from the Echidna tribe's ruins. They predicted the fight between Sonic & Chaos. Dr. Gerald Robotnik used these murals, as he thought they predicted the ultimate lifeform. That's also why there are water monsters kinda like Chaos in the levels on the Ark... But I don't think Sega ever outright _says_ any of this in the games themselves... It's just implied through context.
So originally shadow was only supposed to be in SA2 and was supposed to stay dead. But he was so damn popular that they immediatley brought him back in the following game.
This video is a prime example of how modern games hold your hand and don't allow you to think for yourself. If the camera focuses on it, it's important. If it glows, you can interact with it. Study your surroundings. Learn from your mistakes. Pay attention to enemy patterns.
this game and especially the ending cutscene really felt like the end of an era. it felt like a grand farewell for both the cast and the players. discussing their past adventures and what they wanted to do in the future. If the franchise ever wanted to end this was the perfect way to do it. everyone getting ready to move on with their lives.
Shadow looks like Sonic because he was molded after the mural that depicted a Sonic like figure with the master emerald on angel island by Gerald. It’s really Sonic being dedicated but Gerald wouldn’t have known that.
Sa2 was potentially the last sonic game and yeah that’s why it shows the memorial to shadow because he was supposed to be dead but fans liked him enough when they moved to the next game they brought him back
There are a couple of optional upgrades you can unlock by revisiting previous stages, that make the final story stage, Cannon's Core, a lot easier. Lots of people mentioned the Air Necklace, found in Aquatic Mines, which lets Knuckles breathe underwater, so you don't need to deal with the air bubbles. The Air Necklace can be found on the first visit to Aquatic Mine, but it's hidden pretty well, so most players don't find it on their first run. The other notable upgrade is the Magic Hands, found in City Escape (requires Flame Ring and Bounce Bracelet), which allows Sonic to just instantly kill a nearby enemy without even moving. This is useful for that early spot in Sonic's segment, allowing you to kill the Artificial Chaos over the bottomless pit remotely, without leaving the safety of the ground. The intention was probably for players to explore around and replay stages (the extra missions and the chao garden both incentivize this) and find all these extra upgrades before tackling the final story. Unfortunately, while this design philosophy worked well at the time, it doesn't fit the way streaming content is usually handled, though in the developer's defense, livestreaming didn't exist back them. Your suspicion that you were missing something about the Biolizard fight was correct. For the dark orbs he spits at you, you're supposed to jump over the low ones and somersault under the high ones. Omachao even mentions this sometimes after a death, but people tend to not notice Omachao when they're dialed in. This part of the fight actually becomes a pretty simple rhythm minigame with the somersault. I suspect the somersault not being in any of the other 3D games is what's causing you to forget the somersault exists, as there were a lot of points that stumped you throughout your playthrough where somersault was the answer. The pink balls though... yeah, that part is pretty janky. A deeper understanding of exactly how the homing attack works in this game (especially as opposed to more modern versions) helps, but... it's not great. One more interesting note is that Biolizard is sort of an evolution of the King Boom Boo fight, where you're intended to keep a set distance from a chasing boss, without going too slow or too fast. Unfortunately, this is not conveyed to the player nearly as well in Boom Boo's case, resulting in the mad dash rage we saw in the that fight (you're not the only streamer I've seen miss this strategy and rage on Boom Boo). Either way, I'm super impressed with how well you did in Cannon's Core. You got a couple game overs, but every attempt, you learned and improved. And despite brute forcing Biolizard, you still made it through. You kept your cool through the whole video. Amazing job!
You can actually collect Gerald's journal on Shadow Generations popping off the balloons that are floating around the hub world, it covers his story, his research, the story of Maria on the ARK and more stuff about Eggman's family
Way to go!! You finish my first and favorite Sonic game. I am so glad that you never gave up on the game. To be honest I finished this game for the first time earlier this year (the biolizard was so hard). To my understanding this was not only a game to celebrate Sonic’s 10th anniversary, but was supposedly going to be the last Sonic game which explains the ending scene. I don’t know how true that is, but just that thought alone makes this game so special. And was going to be the last time we would see Shadow. Also when you get a chance read Gerald’s Journal.
Gerald was gunned down and executed at the end of his video recording. Also the math writing behind him is from the same prison cell Sonic was in earlier, they were calculations for his revenge.
Glad you came through in the end! =D 16:30 There's "Sonic The Fighters" and "Sonic Battle" both are their own style. A fangame exists that is a more classic 2D fighter, but the name is escaping me. =/
I still have memories of trying to beat Biolizard when I was like a 7 year old and getting so frustrated because I'd game over again and again, I was stuck on it for days lol. Eventually I made it through somehow so it's always cathartic to see someone else overcome the boss for the first time :)
You... you finished it!? You beat SA2!? I thought you quit and I understand why, but this is a WELCOME surprise! I'm glad you got to finally finish SA2. People theorized Shadow is based off the mural of the Super Hedgehog on Angel Island, but it's never confirmed why Shadow looks like a Hedgehog. SA2 is an easy to play, hard to master game. Getting all the Rank A with my guidebook as no easy task, but worth it for the bonus content! I wish you got to play around in the Chao Garden a bit or did you off camera? Honestly, I prefer the jank of SA1 and SA2 over the modern Sonic games. I feel like I have more control over the characters and such. Though Shadow Generations is close to what I love about the old 3D Sonic games. My favorite part of the final battle of SA2 is wait it out for the 4 minutes where the Ark is burning up and the characters saying "It's too late! Get out of them!" before finishing off the Final Hazard and it works with how long the song "Live and Learn" is. To me, SA2 is still my favorite Sonic game and the best one to me.
48:20 it’s a theory but Gerald has been to Angel Island where he likely saw a mural of Super Sonic like a prophecy. Gerald likely based Shadow of that appearance hence why his quills are always pointing up like Super Sonic’s.
Im impressed by how you did the last few stages in the Dark Story and yeah the Knuckles and Rouge sections of Canon's Core is very confusing for first timers and you beating the Knuckles section without the air necklace is also very impressive, The Biolizard fight can also be frustrating at first but you still pulled through also it's also a very nice feat you were able to beat FinalHazard so quick on the first try. Congratulations on beating the game, and who knows maybe you might find yourself playing the game again on your own time now that you know what to do, I think. Next is "Sonic Heroes" baby I don't know when you will be playing it but im looking forward to it when it happens
I'm glad you saw this through to the end. If you rage at the jank in this game, then you're really gonna hate Sonic Heroes. But that's the next game in the timeline to know what happens to Shadow
48:18 so interestingly, it wasn't until the recent Shadow Generations release that we got any explanation as to why Shadow was created in the form of a hedgehog. In Shadow Generations, you collect pages of Gerald's diary and in it is Sega canonizing an almost 2 decades long fan theory. This fan theory is a lot of connecting dots and making some assumptions. In the Ark, in the room where Shadow fights the Biolizard, there is a master emerald shrine. This is an unusual kind of thing of thing to have located aboard a scientific lab in space so what gives? The shrine is an exact replication of the shrine found in Mystic Ruins in Adventure 1. In Mystic Ruins, there is a mural depicting Perfect Chaos, the final boss of Adventure 1. It is theorized that Biolizard was based on Perfect Chaos. However, the Biolizard Ultimate Life Form prototype failed so Gerald went back to the drawing board. The only other prophecy mural we'd seen up to this point is in Sonic 3&Knuckles. The fan theory for the longest time operated under the unproven assumption that Gerald somehow found Angel Island, and found the only other mural we've seen so far. Shadow Generations' Gerald Diary finally confirmed that he indeed did visit Angel Island. In the Angel Island mural is a depiction of Sonic fighting Eggman in the Doomsday Zone Super Sonic final battle of S3&K. Shadow was based on Sonic in that mural.
Gerald made Shadow look like Sonic because he took inspiration of an ancient mural he saw that depicted Super Sonic saving the Master Emerald from evildoers EDIT: Someone just told me you can see the mural in Sonic & Knuckles game for the GENESIS
To be fair Shadow first appeared on the dreamcast. Not sure what the time skip was between OG SA2 and Heroes but I can assume it was a few game entries inbetween.
Kinda amazed you only got one Game Over after getting to the Knuckles part, I got so many gameovers there on my first playthrough 😭 feels like lots of platformers in the 90s and 00s had these gauntlet-like finales where you had to do a lot of hard challenges in a row and if you game over you start from the beginning. Also the biolizard is a really frustrating fight, when i first played it i got stuck there for days i think. somersaulting/ducking under the energy balls that go higher makes it go faster but i couldnt even beat the first half of the fight for ages, i always got swept away by the water. its definitely a lot easier once youve replayed it tons of times and know the boss' moves inside and out
I heard that originally was planned that Shadow definitely die at the end of the game and that SA2 was to be the final Sonic Game because Sega didn't did well with the Dreamcast (it was the last Sega console), but apparently the game solds too well that they continue with the franchise on other consoles (because Sonic games were exclusive for Sega consoles before) and Shadow becomes so popular that they bring him back on Sonic Heroes
Yay, you did it! DeeBee! I hope you get ready for my personal fav Sonic game (Sonic Heroes) it is a challenge to pass but later you'll get the hang of it. Love your content man.💯
YOOOO congratulations!! Super proud!!! I felt that same excitement I felt years ago watching you beat it. We all thought shadow was gone forever till his game came out. Makes me wanna play again at least the choa garden (which is the in-game therapy for kids) lol.
Watching you finally beat this game was so wholesome. What an Ark... a Space Colony Ark if you will. I actually shed a tear, just like Shadow himself, at you finally getting to see the story of Shadow and how it all ends. I think this one in particular just feels so triumphant. Seeing your feeling of overcoming a challenge, through sheer determination, even in the face of... well... jank, and willingness to see the story to its end, and right on New Year's Eve no less. What a memorable moment.
2:43:12 I believe it was Reggie who said "The game is fun, the game is a battle. If its not fun, why bother? If its not a battle, where's the fun?" so given that you're struggling in a battle I'd say you're in the fun.
First time playthroughs of Sonic Adventure 2 can be rough to newtime players but upon replays, the game does get/feel better when you are adjusted to the game engine, gameplay mechanics, and know what you're doing. Thinking about it, my first time playing this game was probably just as rough as yours but I still loved it (and became my favorite Sonic game at the time when I first played the GameCube port, surpassed by Sonic Generations as my favorite). It was my first 3D Sonic game after playing the 2D classic era. My Favorite for music and story
Great work, man! I managed to beat this game for the first time too just a few days ago. I basically just played the whole game in a single session which took me all day but, I finally beat it too. Gameplay-wise, I still prefer the first Sonic Adventure but I totally get what you mean about having the urge to play it again even after beating it. I've been replaying the Sonic and Shadow stages specifically because I want to memorize the levels and get better at speeding through them, but that jank still comes back to haunt me every so often lol.
Glad to see you pushed through despite all the negativity you kept getting. Also to answer a question in your video, yes, there is a Sonic fighting game. Multiple in fact. There's Sonic Battle on the GBA, and there's Sonic the Fighters for arcade and it's also in some collections like mega or gems collection (I dont remember which has it)
31:31 - If you pause here, you can see what she's talking about in full. It's in English, even. In short, Project Shadow created Biolizard, which they called Shadow. Which helps explain what's going on - Project Shadow was an iterative process, where at least two creatures were called Shadow. And Shadow was simply never told. Maybe he was even created as an adult, like a clone. So... what is Shadow's true identity? Gerald didn't make Shadow "look like Sonic". That happened decades ago, before Sonic. There's no given reason why the both have the same powers - you'd think that might come up at some point, but the military just created someone with Chaos powers, and that happened to also happen seemingly naturally. (I'm not sure on the canonicity of Knuckles and Tails' Chaos powers.) Not that we know anything about Sonic's birth. And obviously Sonic Team made Shadow as Sonic's shadow. But in-game it may just be coincidence. The gameplay is very janky and inconsistent, especially compared to Shadow Generations (and the single-radar element makes the Knuckles stages a worse version of SA1's), but thankfully a fresh mind helped you out. And then it takes you an hour to beat the next stage, to no one's surprise. Honestly surprised you thought the story ended after Hero and Dark, considering you played Sonic Adventure. 57:52 - No, that's the Ark. It's falling. That scene is highly exaggerated, though. 58:28 - Ahhh... not sure? Some sort of recorded confession before his execution? Or imprisonment? Which he programmed into the Ark after that, somehow? The timeline of the backstory is really confusing and poorly explained, and the poor localization is not helping. They tried to make something a lot more narratively complex than SA1, and people like it's core ideas, but it's also quite janky, like the rest of the game. 2:12:30 - Yes, this is why the Biolizard appeared in Shadow Generations. And then Shadow died and totally didn't come back two years later. The Ark is still there because they teleported it into a stable orbit that won't fall (unless you add more Emeralds or something). Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Rouge are still there, so they can't teleport it into the sun.
This was my first Sonic game and it holds so much nostalgia. I had a figure of Sonic from this game who got used so much that his arms fell off, his foot was twisted, his nose came off and eventually his head. I am so glad you got to see this wonderful ending and I am so glad I could see the Sonic movie in cinema as a 26 year old while seeing kids who were the same age as me also enjoy a film based on this game.
Congratulations on sticking with it and getting it done! Hopefully, this game gets the remake it deserves one day and it'll be an experience you can fully enjoy!
Definitely 06, the controls and glitches in that game are notorious for how bad they are. I don't think he'll play Shadow the Hedgehog since he did a full reaction to the story earlier this past month.
heroes is way more easy, a lot of things like grinding and homming attack become more automatic that it hurted me they made it too easy, Shadow comes the same as heroes, things control way too similar. 06 is gonna destroy him since he lack the patience, focus, reading, watching carefully surroundings and something that is gonna be worst: NOT REMEMBERING THE HABILITIES, specially since 06 got way more things to learn (including the gems) and use even if thankfully they are not necesary to go trough the game, but they help a lot and make some of the stages really easy, NOW there he is gonna learn what is real Jankiness in a game
2:34:27 The game by this point has taught him multiple times how to dodge those dark balls, but he's ignored the tip (btw i never moved from the spot i was standing on when i dodge those). And as annoying as it is that you can target the main body when trying to hit the bubbles, it is not that hard to just focus on the bubbles alone if you actually understand how Homming works. Also, it helps to pick up ONLY 5 rings at a time as they are limited and you will need them all.
I’m amazed and glad you didn’t rage quit on the final boss because most people who never played this game before just can’t seem to get passed the final boss but you did it so easily Not bad at all!🤙
This game was the Dreamcast's swan song and Sonic Team thought that this was probably gonna be their last game. Hence why the ending's somber tone and sense of finality seems random and out of place.
16:33 there are a few fighting games. The closest to those one's is a game called Sonic the Fighters. An old 1996 game. There's also Sonic Battle (2003). And if your okay with Crossovers, Sonic's appeared in Super smash bros. 1:27:51 Big (as explained in Shadow Generation's) is looking for Froggy. Metawise he's got an "where's Wally" kind of role. 2:14:37 yay he got it. eventually.
The jank is real but the ending is hype. That sounds about right. Don't worry, Shadow comes back next game with memory loss (Sonic Heroes) . Apparently, Eggman finds Shadow and puts him in a DBZ rehab pod.
as some of the lyrics to Live and Learn go...: "ooOOOOH, LOOKS LIKE YA CAME BACK FOR MOOOOOORE!" AND YOU DID!! Just like Jim Carrey couldn't help himself but come back at least one more time, too. all prophesied, and _Ultimately_ (heh) serendipitous, imo. Congrats, and happy new year to you and your family, Dee !!
6:10 lmao garss. Someone didn't catch that. I'm glad you went into this with a better headspace. Yes, this game has a lot of jank, but it's important to not let it get to you like the first two streams. 😅
I'm so glad that you gave this game its final run to get the ending, Dee. Seeing your spectrum of emotions made me truly believe you should hang it up. Bcause if you don't enjoy something, it definitely shouldn't feel like you HAVE to complete it just for the fans/viewers. This, too, is my favorite Sonic game, and, to me, it really is about growing up and getting used to the jank with muscle memory for this game because my goodness is it bad sometimes. I won't defend it there lol. That first Biolizard fight defeated me for a good half a year as a kid (no joke), and the later levels in the game are MURDER on the thumbs and patience. But sometimes...SOMETIMES that jank comes back with a vengeance, and I felt that in your playthrough and could relate. And with the addition of trying to stream this game and finish in one sitting, I think it definitely had a negative effect on you with those added challenges. I feel it's a game you gotta play alone and with some time to spare with yourself to get used to it and try to attune to it. Even now when I go back to play it, I have to play it in little bits just so I don't burn myself out. I still love it, but it hasn't aged the greatest for certain lol. I've seen you play and enjoy difficult games, so seeing this comeback was quite amazing, and I'm glad you felt earning the ending was worth it. Only one way to go through life: Live and Learn! ✌ Hope you enjoy the movie all the more when you see it again! ^_^
So, just to give a helpful nudge in the right direction (if you want it, of course) since you've just completed Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow's story is pretty much the only major multi-game arc in the entire franchise. The full story of Shadow starts with *Sonic Adventure 2* (obviously), picks back up in *Sonic Heroes* (the very next main 3D title after Adventure 2), then completes itself with *Shadow the Hedgehog's standalone 2005 game* (which is a very confusing game but basically it's a choose-your-own-adventure with Shadow as the protagonist and all the lore is sprinkled throughout each path and each path you play through is essentially a "what if" story you create), with an extra story in *Sonic Battle* (a Game Boy Advance game) featuring Emerl (the crazy robot Shadow fought at the beginning of the Shadow Generations Dark Beginnings animation you watched). Other than that, *Shadow Generations* (which you already played and completed) is really the only other major Shadow storyline and, as good as it is, it really only gives Shadow personal closure for everything that had already happened in those other stories I mentioned.
Next up in the timeline is Sonic Heroes (which still has some jank, but it’s LESS jank than this). It’s a bit of a time commitment, but the finale is epic.
Congrats on clearing the game as well as defeating The Finalhazard on your first try! Yes like most of us, I too had multiple attempts against the broken Biolizard boss fight but reaching the end was/is absolutely satisfying 😂
Congrats on beating the game! You deserve so much respect for persevering until the end, it was genuinely inspiring to see. Also, all of your frustrations are completely normal for a first playthrough, don’t let anyone try to tell you different by saying “skill issue”. You played really well and the people that are claiming you’re bad at the game have forgotten their own first playthroughs (I say this as someone who loves SA2 and has 100% completed it). Also, if you’re planning on playing Sonic Heroes next, just be warned that it is even more janky and tedious than this game. Hopefully the rumors about it getting a remake are true.
LETS GOOOOOOOOO DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE i played this game when i was a kid so happy to see you beat it And this is the best sonic game!!!!!!
Shadow was supposed to be legitimately killed off. But his popularity led him to return.
Congrats on beating it! Thank you for persevering! The Sonic way: it doesn't matter what happens. Never give up the fight
I think your biggest issue with the game beforehand was just pushing yourself too much to finish it, rather than stepping away once you got a bit frustrated, in which case just made it more difficult when it came to learning how each stage works.
In that sense it's beneficial to replay some of the earlier stages, to get better with the gameplay and perhaps even grind some lives as well.
Either way, its cool to see you persevere and have a bit more fun with the game.
@@robertpowell9982 Again, I invited that fatal mistake upon myself in my younger years. And much of that stubborn frustration was because I was managing severe insecurities stemming from a deep delusion that is now the foundation of my current self; I had to learn a fair bit of mindful temperance to both loosen my attachment to that identifier and lean into the flow of the game before I could git gud.
the SA2 arc has been insane
Way to go Dee!! 😁 The trick to SA2 is the billions of times we replayed those levels, we were mostly kids and had a different acceptance to jank than we do now. But yeah the game is not easy.
Honestly, that was amazing graphics back when that game came out, before the PS2 and GC when compared to PS1 and N64 this game was top line, I wouldn't put to to just young kids accepting jank
I dunno. Watching this playthrough has honestly been a struggle session of seeing someone blame the game for their own lack of intuition or basic ability. The Biolizard fight is a perfect example. Claiming "it's not that obvious on an old game" when there's a literal glowing pipe to grind on that lights up when the rest of the time it isn't glowing? Claiming the energy balls are unpredictable when they literally only come in two flavours: Up and down? And then saying there's no way to avoid them while literally doing nothing but press the jump button despite having literally made it to the final act of the game fully aware of the fact that there's a **ROLL BUTTON**?
There's only so many times you can blame the game and call it janky before it becomes pretty evident that the person just plain wasn't paying any attention the entire time they played the game.
It can be said that Sonic games continue to have that 90s approach to video game difficulty, where the learning curve kinda smacks you over the head repeatedly until you start getting the hang of it.
Jank? You just can't calculate the controls
No introduction, just straight into the gameplay, maximum dialed in. The determination is real. I wasn't sure if you'd finish this game at all, but I certainly wasn't expecting it so soon. Massive respect.
huge respect for you for finishing it man. its a classic and one of those games you definitely appreciate over time. Once you beat this game it's a real treasure to go back and play... janky and all.
There's an upgrade for Knuckles you missed in one of his previous levels... It would've let you breathe underwater. Most people can't complete this level without that upgrade. It took me a lot of tries, but I managed... The fact that you managed to _without a game over_ shows that you're *much* better at this game than you think.
I quite literally was genuinely depressed you seemed to hate SA2. It was heartbreaking to hear you struggle with it so hard, but seeing you fully enjoying the peak of sonic finales had me smiling so fucking wide. I'm proud of ya Dee!
The youtubers only want to see the story and they don't care about the fact that if you want to get good at Sonic games you need to replay the stages and study the level design, skips, character physics and capacities. That counts for almost every Sonic game. It's the philosophy of the franchise, however no one cares about that; instead they complain about the game being bad, too hard etc...
@@lks19Exactly. Sure the game has problems. But 90% of his issues were his OWN fault! He just sucked at the game!
@@ritster21 I think he was quite good for a first timer btw.
@@ritster21 Agreed. No one should be dying 87 TIMES on a single level. Back when I was like 11 I never died half that number ANYWHERE. Dan is just a terrible player, offensively meant or not
@@raikasha8152 He’s pathetic! He was such an idiot fighting the King Boom Boo boss!
Overcoming challenge and adversity for the ultimate reward is the core of what made videogames videogames. The cycle this man went through on his journey with this game is videogames in their purest form.
That final chase run was genuinely impressive once you got the hang of those gravity drums, especially since you did most of the level on your first try - well done!
I knew it was gonna end like this. There would be no way he makes the title of the last video without a comearound. Now Dee knows how to hang on the edge of tomorrow.
"How are you supposed to avoid the top ones?" - By rolling under them.
The roll is so rarely used that it's easy to forget about though.
So glad you decided to play again Dee and not give up. Appreciate your work and persistence on this one. Watching it now and excited for this new year gift lol. Enjoy your New Year Dee!
Holy shit, you beat the Knuckles section of Canon's Core without the Air Necklace upgrade. *Massive* props to you sir (applause)!
I'm impressed you got through the Knuckles section without the Air Necklace; I actually thought that was impossible as a kid.
Same here, I don’t think I did it without the air necklace.
@@Jo.Jo.222 indeed. real accidental hardcore. poor Dee.
I remember clearing it like that as a kid and not knowing there was an air necklace several years later
Right? I did it without the air necklace as a kid, but that level made me rage quit for months. I was only able to beat the stage after hogging air bubbles like I was on Life Support
I didn't know these bubbles are there to give you air, in case you haven't found the necklace.
I've never seen anyone do the Biolizard without using the Somersault. Watching him attempt to dodge the floating energy balls manually made it much more nailbiting.
I think he'd find the game a lot more fun if he'd actually play the game instead of slamming his head against the wall repeatedly
@@TCBStudios this
That's the Deebeeway, unfortunately, sometimes. @@TCBStudios
@@TCBStudiosthe few times I have seen dee play games, he always end up hitting himself with a wall, he seems like a nice guy but I'm sure he's the reason the power rangers had to say their colors
It also didnt help that he didnt read or listen everytime Omochao told him he could summersault or jump the balls. He even acknowledged that he must be missing something but still wouldnt read the prompt. A win is a win though, even if he took the hard path to get there.
i will 100% agree that this game is in need of a remake, however, i still think for the most part it holds up
i first played this game in 2022, i have absolutely zero nostalgia for it, and i really enjoyed it, it's one of my favorite sonic games of all time, though the best part is definitely the beginning, also i recommend continuing with the chao garden if it's something you enjoyed
the ending is genuinely one of the most beautiful things i've seen in a video game even though shadow didn't actually die, i don't think that takes away from his sacrifice, he made a promise to maria to help the people and he's continuing to keep that promise all the way to today
for me, I got to fully play the game on the GameCube few years after, i too think this game really does hold up.
"Why Gerald made Shadow look like Sonic" - There's a reason, but I don't think it's ever technically confirmed... Shadow came out of a 50 year stasis when this game started, so he's older than Sonic, but you might remember some murals in Sonic Adventure 1 from the Echidna tribe's ruins. They predicted the fight between Sonic & Chaos. Dr. Gerald Robotnik used these murals, as he thought they predicted the ultimate lifeform. That's also why there are water monsters kinda like Chaos in the levels on the Ark... But I don't think Sega ever outright _says_ any of this in the games themselves... It's just implied through context.
It is now confirmed in geralds journal which was released this year packaged with shadow generations 👍
It's canon, Shadow Generations has Gerald's Journal if you collect all the pages (or pre-ordered the physical Journal)
Man if only Dee knew that he forgot to pick up a new ability for knuckles that would've made this whole underwater section A LOT less Stressful
TBF, said upgrade is very easy to miss.
So originally shadow was only supposed to be in SA2 and was supposed to stay dead. But he was so damn popular that they immediatley brought him back in the following game.
Playing SA2 as a kid I can easily say you knew Biolizard was gonna be an eerie fight the moment it's boss music hit
This video is a prime example of how modern games hold your hand and don't allow you to think for yourself. If the camera focuses on it, it's important. If it glows, you can interact with it. Study your surroundings. Learn from your mistakes. Pay attention to enemy patterns.
this game and especially the ending cutscene really felt like the end of an era. it felt like a grand farewell for both the cast and the players. discussing their past adventures and what they wanted to do in the future. If the franchise ever wanted to end this was the perfect way to do it. everyone getting ready to move on with their lives.
I don’t think a thumbnail has ever made me this happy.
Shadow looks like Sonic because he was molded after the mural that depicted a Sonic like figure with the master emerald on angel island by Gerald. It’s really Sonic being dedicated but Gerald wouldn’t have known that.
Sa2 was potentially the last sonic game and yeah that’s why it shows the memorial to shadow because he was supposed to be dead but fans liked him enough when they moved to the next game they brought him back
There are a couple of optional upgrades you can unlock by revisiting previous stages, that make the final story stage, Cannon's Core, a lot easier. Lots of people mentioned the Air Necklace, found in Aquatic Mines, which lets Knuckles breathe underwater, so you don't need to deal with the air bubbles. The Air Necklace can be found on the first visit to Aquatic Mine, but it's hidden pretty well, so most players don't find it on their first run. The other notable upgrade is the Magic Hands, found in City Escape (requires Flame Ring and Bounce Bracelet), which allows Sonic to just instantly kill a nearby enemy without even moving. This is useful for that early spot in Sonic's segment, allowing you to kill the Artificial Chaos over the bottomless pit remotely, without leaving the safety of the ground. The intention was probably for players to explore around and replay stages (the extra missions and the chao garden both incentivize this) and find all these extra upgrades before tackling the final story. Unfortunately, while this design philosophy worked well at the time, it doesn't fit the way streaming content is usually handled, though in the developer's defense, livestreaming didn't exist back them.
Your suspicion that you were missing something about the Biolizard fight was correct. For the dark orbs he spits at you, you're supposed to jump over the low ones and somersault under the high ones. Omachao even mentions this sometimes after a death, but people tend to not notice Omachao when they're dialed in. This part of the fight actually becomes a pretty simple rhythm minigame with the somersault. I suspect the somersault not being in any of the other 3D games is what's causing you to forget the somersault exists, as there were a lot of points that stumped you throughout your playthrough where somersault was the answer. The pink balls though... yeah, that part is pretty janky. A deeper understanding of exactly how the homing attack works in this game (especially as opposed to more modern versions) helps, but... it's not great. One more interesting note is that Biolizard is sort of an evolution of the King Boom Boo fight, where you're intended to keep a set distance from a chasing boss, without going too slow or too fast. Unfortunately, this is not conveyed to the player nearly as well in Boom Boo's case, resulting in the mad dash rage we saw in the that fight (you're not the only streamer I've seen miss this strategy and rage on Boom Boo).
Either way, I'm super impressed with how well you did in Cannon's Core. You got a couple game overs, but every attempt, you learned and improved. And despite brute forcing Biolizard, you still made it through. You kept your cool through the whole video. Amazing job!
You can say you lived and learned playing through this game
i have never seen anybody be this locked in too a videogame for 3 hours. really glad that you finish this game, are gonna play sonic heros next ?
You can actually collect Gerald's journal on Shadow Generations popping off the balloons that are floating around the hub world, it covers his story, his research, the story of Maria on the ARK and more stuff about Eggman's family
Way to go!! You finish my first and favorite Sonic game. I am so glad that you never gave up on the game. To be honest I finished this game for the first time earlier this year (the biolizard was so hard). To my understanding this was not only a game to celebrate Sonic’s 10th anniversary, but was supposedly going to be the last Sonic game which explains the ending scene. I don’t know how true that is, but just that thought alone makes this game so special. And was going to be the last time we would see Shadow. Also when you get a chance read Gerald’s Journal.
Gerald was gunned down and executed at the end of his video recording. Also the math writing behind him is from the same prison cell Sonic was in earlier, they were calculations for his revenge.
DBG earns his Sonic gamer medal.
In the end, you lived and learned!
wait what?!
I just finished watching the other video "hero ending", thanks for continuing with SA2!
The Red Nail clue stopped being relevant when you died. That re-randomizes all the emerald shards.
Yeah man, this one of if not the BEST Sonic game of ALL time, that last story is legitimately one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen🤩
"Why is Big the Cat there?" - I think he's in every level, hidden away somewhere as an Easter egg to find... So just for fun.
Glad you came through in the end! =D
16:30 There's "Sonic The Fighters" and "Sonic Battle" both are their own style.
A fangame exists that is a more classic 2D fighter, but the name is escaping me. =/
I still have memories of trying to beat Biolizard when I was like a 7 year old and getting so frustrated because I'd game over again and again, I was stuck on it for days lol. Eventually I made it through somehow so it's always cathartic to see someone else overcome the boss for the first time :)
Proud of ya Dee! I think SA2 definitely is a game that’s better the more you spend time with it and try to learn it.
You... you finished it!? You beat SA2!? I thought you quit and I understand why, but this is a WELCOME surprise! I'm glad you got to finally finish SA2.
People theorized Shadow is based off the mural of the Super Hedgehog on Angel Island, but it's never confirmed why Shadow looks like a Hedgehog.
SA2 is an easy to play, hard to master game. Getting all the Rank A with my guidebook as no easy task, but worth it for the bonus content! I wish you got to play around in the Chao Garden a bit or did you off camera?
Honestly, I prefer the jank of SA1 and SA2 over the modern Sonic games. I feel like I have more control over the characters and such. Though Shadow Generations is close to what I love about the old 3D Sonic games.
My favorite part of the final battle of SA2 is wait it out for the 4 minutes where the Ark is burning up and the characters saying "It's too late! Get out of them!" before finishing off the Final Hazard and it works with how long the song "Live and Learn" is.
To me, SA2 is still my favorite Sonic game and the best one to me.
48:20 it’s a theory but Gerald has been to Angel Island where he likely saw a mural of Super Sonic like a prophecy. Gerald likely based Shadow of that appearance hence why his quills are always pointing up like Super Sonic’s.
Im impressed by how you did the last few stages in the Dark Story and yeah the Knuckles and Rouge sections of Canon's Core is very confusing for first timers and you beating the Knuckles section without the air necklace is also very impressive, The Biolizard fight can also be frustrating at first but you still pulled through also it's also a very nice feat you were able to beat FinalHazard so quick on the first try. Congratulations on beating the game, and who knows maybe you might find yourself playing the game again on your own time now that you know what to do, I think. Next is "Sonic Heroes" baby I don't know when you will be playing it but im looking forward to it when it happens
The SA2 arc of the Deebeegeek Sonic Saga was peak. Absolute cinema
I'm glad you saw this through to the end. If you rage at the jank in this game, then you're really gonna hate Sonic Heroes. But that's the next game in the timeline to know what happens to Shadow
48:18 so interestingly, it wasn't until the recent Shadow Generations release that we got any explanation as to why Shadow was created in the form of a hedgehog. In Shadow Generations, you collect pages of Gerald's diary and in it is Sega canonizing an almost 2 decades long fan theory.
This fan theory is a lot of connecting dots and making some assumptions. In the Ark, in the room where Shadow fights the Biolizard, there is a master emerald shrine. This is an unusual kind of thing of thing to have located aboard a scientific lab in space so what gives? The shrine is an exact replication of the shrine found in Mystic Ruins in Adventure 1. In Mystic Ruins, there is a mural depicting Perfect Chaos, the final boss of Adventure 1. It is theorized that Biolizard was based on Perfect Chaos. However, the Biolizard Ultimate Life Form prototype failed so Gerald went back to the drawing board. The only other prophecy mural we'd seen up to this point is in Sonic 3&Knuckles. The fan theory for the longest time operated under the unproven assumption that Gerald somehow found Angel Island, and found the only other mural we've seen so far. Shadow Generations' Gerald Diary finally confirmed that he indeed did visit Angel Island. In the Angel Island mural is a depiction of Sonic fighting Eggman in the Doomsday Zone Super Sonic final battle of S3&K. Shadow was based on Sonic in that mural.
Damn that was FAST.
Gotta go fast
Uh did I miss this, damn I’m angry with myself now
Dee must have done this off camera. He had said he might so as to not feel so stressed.
Do you want to edit your comment? Done WHAT off camera? Did you mean not streaming?
@123goofyking No. Off camera, as in not live and without others adding additional stress with their comments.
Congrats on finishing the game! It's good to end the year off on a high note. Hope you get to enjoy more Sonic games in the future.
Gerald made Shadow look like Sonic because he took inspiration of an ancient mural he saw that depicted Super Sonic saving the Master Emerald from evildoers
EDIT: Someone just told me you can see the mural in Sonic & Knuckles game for the GENESIS
"Are there any Sonic fighting games?" - Sonic the Fighters
Shadow was supposed to die but he got so popular that Sega was brought back in the next; Sonic Heroes.
To be fair Shadow first appeared on the dreamcast. Not sure what the time skip was between OG SA2 and Heroes but I can assume it was a few game entries inbetween.
Kinda amazed you only got one Game Over after getting to the Knuckles part, I got so many gameovers there on my first playthrough 😭 feels like lots of platformers in the 90s and 00s had these gauntlet-like finales where you had to do a lot of hard challenges in a row and if you game over you start from the beginning.
Also the biolizard is a really frustrating fight, when i first played it i got stuck there for days i think. somersaulting/ducking under the energy balls that go higher makes it go faster but i couldnt even beat the first half of the fight for ages, i always got swept away by the water. its definitely a lot easier once youve replayed it tons of times and know the boss' moves inside and out
One thing about older games is part of the fun is overcoming the challenge. But once you do, you tend to get some epic moments.
You are truly one of us now... movie and game versions both taken in...
2:12:33 correct. That boss fight was the same as this at first before doing new stuff
I heard that originally was planned that Shadow definitely die at the end of the game and that SA2 was to be the final Sonic Game because Sega didn't did well with the Dreamcast (it was the last Sega console), but apparently the game solds too well that they continue with the franchise on other consoles (because Sonic games were exclusive for Sega consoles before) and Shadow becomes so popular that they bring him back on Sonic Heroes
Love you persevering King!
Yay, you did it! DeeBee! I hope you get ready for my personal fav Sonic game (Sonic Heroes) it is a challenge to pass but later you'll get the hang of it. Love your content man.💯
YOOOO congratulations!! Super proud!!! I felt that same excitement I felt years ago watching you beat it. We all thought shadow was gone forever till his game came out. Makes me wanna play again at least the choa garden (which is the in-game therapy for kids) lol.
Really think old early 3D games just take some getting used too especially since every 3D game at the time never ever controlled the same way
Watching you finally beat this game was so wholesome. What an Ark... a Space Colony Ark if you will. I actually shed a tear, just like Shadow himself, at you finally getting to see the story of Shadow and how it all ends.
I think this one in particular just feels so triumphant. Seeing your feeling of overcoming a challenge, through sheer determination, even in the face of... well... jank, and willingness to see the story to its end, and right on New Year's Eve no less. What a memorable moment.
I think you may actually want to watch a speedrun of this game to see how you compare 😅
Sonic Heroes next?
he did it the Deebeeway XD
2:43:12 I believe it was Reggie who said "The game is fun, the game is a battle. If its not fun, why bother? If its not a battle, where's the fun?" so given that you're struggling in a battle I'd say you're in the fun.
First time playthroughs of Sonic Adventure 2 can be rough to newtime players but upon replays, the game does get/feel better when you are adjusted to the game engine, gameplay mechanics, and know what you're doing. Thinking about it, my first time playing this game was probably just as rough as yours but I still loved it (and became my favorite Sonic game at the time when I first played the GameCube port, surpassed by Sonic Generations as my favorite). It was my first 3D Sonic game after playing the 2D classic era.
My Favorite for music and story
Great work, man! I managed to beat this game for the first time too just a few days ago. I basically just played the whole game in a single session which took me all day but, I finally beat it too.
Gameplay-wise, I still prefer the first Sonic Adventure but I totally get what you mean about having the urge to play it again even after beating it. I've been replaying the Sonic and Shadow stages specifically because I want to memorize the levels and get better at speeding through them, but that jank still comes back to haunt me every so often lol.
Glad to see you pushed through despite all the negativity you kept getting. Also to answer a question in your video, yes, there is a Sonic fighting game. Multiple in fact. There's Sonic Battle on the GBA, and there's Sonic the Fighters for arcade and it's also in some collections like mega or gems collection (I dont remember which has it)
It was Gems collection 👍
31:31 - If you pause here, you can see what she's talking about in full. It's in English, even. In short, Project Shadow created Biolizard, which they called Shadow. Which helps explain what's going on - Project Shadow was an iterative process, where at least two creatures were called Shadow. And Shadow was simply never told. Maybe he was even created as an adult, like a clone. So... what is Shadow's true identity?
Gerald didn't make Shadow "look like Sonic". That happened decades ago, before Sonic. There's no given reason why the both have the same powers - you'd think that might come up at some point, but the military just created someone with Chaos powers, and that happened to also happen seemingly naturally. (I'm not sure on the canonicity of Knuckles and Tails' Chaos powers.) Not that we know anything about Sonic's birth.
And obviously Sonic Team made Shadow as Sonic's shadow. But in-game it may just be coincidence.
The gameplay is very janky and inconsistent, especially compared to Shadow Generations (and the single-radar element makes the Knuckles stages a worse version of SA1's), but thankfully a fresh mind helped you out. And then it takes you an hour to beat the next stage, to no one's surprise.
Honestly surprised you thought the story ended after Hero and Dark, considering you played Sonic Adventure.
57:52 - No, that's the Ark. It's falling. That scene is highly exaggerated, though.
58:28 - Ahhh... not sure? Some sort of recorded confession before his execution? Or imprisonment? Which he programmed into the Ark after that, somehow? The timeline of the backstory is really confusing and poorly explained, and the poor localization is not helping. They tried to make something a lot more narratively complex than SA1, and people like it's core ideas, but it's also quite janky, like the rest of the game.
2:12:30 - Yes, this is why the Biolizard appeared in Shadow Generations.
And then Shadow died and totally didn't come back two years later.
The Ark is still there because they teleported it into a stable orbit that won't fall (unless you add more Emeralds or something). Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Rouge are still there, so they can't teleport it into the sun.
Shadow didnt die, there is no fall damage in Sonic games.
This was my first Sonic game and it holds so much nostalgia. I had a figure of Sonic from this game who got used so much that his arms fell off, his foot was twisted, his nose came off and eventually his head.
I am so glad you got to see this wonderful ending and I am so glad I could see the Sonic movie in cinema as a 26 year old while seeing kids who were the same age as me also enjoy a film based on this game.
Yeah. Shadow was gonna die and stay dead, but thanks to the power of fan support, somehow, Shadow the Hedgehog returned. 2:55:36
I enjoyed your whole SA2 arc, happy new year Dee!
Yeah, back in time we had to live and assume that shadow was death. 😭
Congratulations on sticking with it and getting it done! Hopefully, this game gets the remake it deserves one day and it'll be an experience you can fully enjoy!
still watching but huge respect for returning, these are the hardest levels in the game. :D
Fun Fact: Despite her yoinking a lot of his look and arc, Shadow the Hedgehog is an enormous Ryuko Matoi fanboy
I wonder what will hurt him more next: Heroes, Shadow...or 06?
Definitely 06, the controls and glitches in that game are notorious for how bad they are. I don't think he'll play Shadow the Hedgehog since he did a full reaction to the story earlier this past month.
heroes is way more easy, a lot of things like grinding and homming attack become more automatic that it hurted me they made it too easy, Shadow comes the same as heroes, things control way too similar.
06 is gonna destroy him since he lack the patience, focus, reading, watching carefully surroundings and something that is gonna be worst: NOT REMEMBERING THE HABILITIES, specially since 06 got way more things to learn (including the gems) and use even if thankfully they are not necesary to go trough the game, but they help a lot and make some of the stages really easy, NOW there he is gonna learn what is real Jankiness in a game
100% 06. I love 06 but the physics are SO BAD.
Congrats on finishing it. Hard games build character.
2:34:27 The game by this point has taught him multiple times how to dodge those dark balls, but he's ignored the tip (btw i never moved from the spot i was standing on when i dodge those). And as annoying as it is that you can target the main body when trying to hit the bubbles, it is not that hard to just focus on the bubbles alone if you actually understand how Homming works. Also, it helps to pick up ONLY 5 rings at a time as they are limited and you will need them all.
I appreciate the tips but I’ve already beaten it. Thanks though.
I’m amazed and glad you didn’t rage quit on the final boss because most people who never played this game before just can’t seem to get passed the final boss but you did it so easily
Not bad at all!🤙
This game was the Dreamcast's swan song and Sonic Team thought that this was probably gonna be their last game. Hence why the ending's somber tone and sense of finality seems random and out of place.
i still, to this day, have had trouble against Finalhazard. well done, dee :3
16:33 there are a few fighting games. The closest to those one's is a game called Sonic the Fighters. An old 1996 game.
There's also Sonic Battle (2003). And if your okay with Crossovers, Sonic's appeared in Super smash bros.
1:27:51 Big (as explained in Shadow Generation's) is looking for Froggy. Metawise he's got an "where's Wally" kind of role.
2:14:37 yay he got it. eventually.
The jank is real but the ending is hype. That sounds about right. Don't worry, Shadow comes back next game with memory loss (Sonic Heroes) . Apparently, Eggman finds Shadow and puts him in a DBZ rehab pod.
as some of the lyrics to Live and Learn go...: "ooOOOOH, LOOKS LIKE YA CAME BACK FOR MOOOOOORE!" AND YOU DID!!
Just like Jim Carrey couldn't help himself but come back at least one more time, too. all prophesied, and _Ultimately_ (heh) serendipitous, imo.
Congrats, and happy new year to you and your family, Dee !!
6:10 lmao garss. Someone didn't catch that.
I'm glad you went into this with a better headspace. Yes, this game has a lot of jank, but it's important to not let it get to you like the first two streams. 😅
You DID IT! You mad lad! Im proud of you man!!
After this story comes Sonic Heroes which continues Shadow’s story but it gets complicated.
I'm so glad that you gave this game its final run to get the ending, Dee. Seeing your spectrum of emotions made me truly believe you should hang it up. Bcause if you don't enjoy something, it definitely shouldn't feel like you HAVE to complete it just for the fans/viewers. This, too, is my favorite Sonic game, and, to me, it really is about growing up and getting used to the jank with muscle memory for this game because my goodness is it bad sometimes. I won't defend it there lol. That first Biolizard fight defeated me for a good half a year as a kid (no joke), and the later levels in the game are MURDER on the thumbs and patience. But sometimes...SOMETIMES that jank comes back with a vengeance, and I felt that in your playthrough and could relate. And with the addition of trying to stream this game and finish in one sitting, I think it definitely had a negative effect on you with those added challenges. I feel it's a game you gotta play alone and with some time to spare with yourself to get used to it and try to attune to it. Even now when I go back to play it, I have to play it in little bits just so I don't burn myself out. I still love it, but it hasn't aged the greatest for certain lol. I've seen you play and enjoy difficult games, so seeing this comeback was quite amazing, and I'm glad you felt earning the ending was worth it. Only one way to go through life: Live and Learn! ✌ Hope you enjoy the movie all the more when you see it again! ^_^
So, just to give a helpful nudge in the right direction (if you want it, of course) since you've just completed Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow's story is pretty much the only major multi-game arc in the entire franchise.
The full story of Shadow starts with *Sonic Adventure 2* (obviously), picks back up in *Sonic Heroes* (the very next main 3D title after Adventure 2), then completes itself with *Shadow the Hedgehog's standalone 2005 game* (which is a very confusing game but basically it's a choose-your-own-adventure with Shadow as the protagonist and all the lore is sprinkled throughout each path and each path you play through is essentially a "what if" story you create), with an extra story in *Sonic Battle* (a Game Boy Advance game) featuring Emerl (the crazy robot Shadow fought at the beginning of the Shadow Generations Dark Beginnings animation you watched). Other than that, *Shadow Generations* (which you already played and completed) is really the only other major Shadow storyline and, as good as it is, it really only gives Shadow personal closure for everything that had already happened in those other stories I mentioned.
Next up in the timeline is Sonic Heroes (which still has some jank, but it’s LESS jank than this). It’s a bit of a time commitment, but the finale is epic.
Less? Definetly more
Less jank? Team Chaotix would like a word.
Congrats on clearing the game as well as defeating The Finalhazard on your first try! Yes like most of us, I too had multiple attempts against the broken Biolizard boss fight but reaching the end was/is absolutely satisfying 😂
Congrats on beating the game! You deserve so much respect for persevering until the end, it was genuinely inspiring to see. Also, all of your frustrations are completely normal for a first playthrough, don’t let anyone try to tell you different by saying “skill issue”. You played really well and the people that are claiming you’re bad at the game have forgotten their own first playthroughs (I say this as someone who loves SA2 and has 100% completed it).
Also, if you’re planning on playing Sonic Heroes next, just be warned that it is even more janky and tedious than this game. Hopefully the rumors about it getting a remake are true.
LETS GOOOOOOOOO DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE i played this game when i was a kid so happy to see you beat it And this is the best sonic game!!!!!!
"A new day brings new adventure. But for now... rest easy heroes."
"HEROES RISE AGAAAAAIN"
5:55 Typo! You’re not going crazy.
Final Chase is very awkward to navigate, yes !