Xenosaga Episode II - Review

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  • Опубліковано 26 жов 2024

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  • @MurdockEx
    @MurdockEx 4 роки тому +27

    This could explain why Xenosaga III is so valuable. If everyone quit the series during this game...

  • @cuckoophendula8211
    @cuckoophendula8211 4 роки тому +6

    I like how you pointed out the window washing, since I've always called the so-called "side quests" chores in this game. They didn't just feel like chores, some of them were actually your in game characters doing literal chores.

  • @Cordellium
    @Cordellium 4 роки тому +10

    By all measures, agree with your take Hellfire. Two was such an oddball out in so many ways, including that it was the only Xenosaga released in PAL territories. One small thing on the music front is that Yuki Kaijura did all of the cutscenes while Shinji Hosoe did all of the actual in game music. Part of the problem is the massive clash of styles between these two. Yuki is more ethereal in anything she writes and really hits that note well by the third game where she does it all solo (thankfully) while Shinji is very much into super electronic beats and sounds that often, not always, but often just do not mesh with the feel and story of Xenosaga. Great review again! Thanks for these!

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому +1

      Cheers for the feedback. I knew who the composer's were but didn't have much context of thier styles or what they specifically did in game.

    • @Taikaru
      @Taikaru 4 роки тому

      It's truly baffling that they would only release part 2 of one of the most complex and epic stories ever told. It's like they were trying to sabotage their own series... such a shame.

    • @YouTubeCensors
      @YouTubeCensors 2 роки тому

      Ep3 OST was my favorite of the trilogy, it also helped you could listen to it while playing unlike ep1 where it only played in cutscenes

  • @dessfred
    @dessfred 4 роки тому +8

    I remember the combat system in X2. The difficulty curve hit like a truck after the first "dungeon". The game pratically tells you: ok now, you have to understand how this battle system work if you don't want to spend hours in battles.

  • @tonytony8872
    @tonytony8872 4 роки тому +8

    The thing I find most jarring was the change in shions personality from episode 1 to 2.
    That could just be because the different voice actress but she seemed so much more hostile and aggressive in the second for no reason

  • @MakoTenseii
    @MakoTenseii 4 роки тому +10

    Ngl I may be in the minority but I dont care. I preferred 2 more than 1. I really loved the new mechanics, story and music. And I love Rubido's character so having a game focus mostly on his story was great

  • @patsg1146
    @patsg1146 4 роки тому +14

    Xenosaga is a great trilogy as a whole, but 2 was such a disappointment, and I 100% agree with what you say in this review. But combat mechanics with the combo system kills it for me as you ALWAYS do the exact same thing in every single battle, not just the boss fights, and it gets so tedious by the end.
    But it's also the shortest game in the series and 3 is definitely the best!

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому +5

      I love 3 so far. 15 odd hours in. It may end up being my favorite in the series.

  • @pmtazekiel
    @pmtazekiel 4 роки тому +14

    After the first one, this one just felt slow. And I agree, the character remakes just didn't do it for me. Luckily, the third one is a great game. Probably the best of the three.

    • @yoyoyo88665
      @yoyoyo88665 4 роки тому +1

      Paul Cooper I take it you haven’t played Episode I in ages? Episode II has far faster animations. I feel like a lot of Episode I fans do not view Episode II rationally, at all.

    • @pmtazekiel
      @pmtazekiel 4 роки тому +2

      @@yoyoyo88665 I mean the story. Not the animations. Compared to the first and third, not much happens and what does isn't terribly interesting.

    • @windwaker0rules
      @windwaker0rules 4 роки тому +1

      @@yoyoyo88665 Episode 2 is a little too hard but Episode 1 is way too easy to break especially if you played XC2 or do side quests.

    • @El-Duderino-His-Dudeness
      @El-Duderino-His-Dudeness 3 роки тому

      @@yoyoyo88665 I completely agree. But then again I only played each one, one time. But in my recollection, I hated the first game, it was a slog, had one piece of battle music and tons of mandatory grinding with a terribly slow and convoluted battle system. I remember really liking the basically everything about Xenosaga 2 more. Better character design, better battle system, more music variety, more interesting narrative due to cutscenes being executed with more visual flair.

    • @YouTubeCensors
      @YouTubeCensors 2 роки тому

      I thought the first one was slow and this is Slower! Not surprisingly I used a cheat device to speed past combat in this game and play the real gem that is Ep3

  • @Dinowrestler
    @Dinowrestler 4 роки тому +3

    First Xenosage I played was 3. Even with out knowing everything before hand, I loved the game all the same. Hated 2, I'd only give it 60%. Xenosaga 1 is still great.

  • @etantao
    @etantao 3 роки тому +5

    Way back in the day I loved ep1 but this one was so different I didn't go all the way to ep3. Now its so hard to play them unless you got a old ps2. I so wanted the remakes to happen :(

    • @TheCrimsonSpork
      @TheCrimsonSpork 2 роки тому +2

      Optimized via an emulator is the only way to go, still a gorgeous game

  • @greatrulo
    @greatrulo 4 роки тому +2

    Great video! I'm surprised you don't have more of a public following, tho I'm sure you'll get one soon, I've been binge watching all your reviews.

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому +2

      Cheers mate! Thanks for the support!

  • @jakeaw1794
    @jakeaw1794 4 роки тому +4

    Another excellent review. I really enjoy these. I just finished Ep 2 today and I think your review hit it on the head. While the combat is complicated, IF you can master it, the game becomes quite easy, which is a good thing as the epic story is great and I was forced to miss out on it in my youth because I could not grasp the battle mechanics. I did not have this problem this time around, and blew through the game in under 30 hours.
    Your take on the graphics and voice acting is also spot on. I did NOT prefer it to the first game, and am looking forward to moving on to Ep 3, which I heard has some of the Ep 1 cast returning.
    I am having some massive ps 2 loading issues with Ep 3, otherwise I would have gotten more into it today, and am hopeful I can continue playing as I will be very disappointed if I cannot complete this great series. I have never played Ep 3 either. I am very much looking forward to your Ep 3 review video, and wish you the best of luck on your "know the facts" video, as it will be insanely complicated to piece it all together lol. Thanks again for another great review, keep up the good work!!

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
      I'm about 15 hours into Episode 3 and I love it so far. It's probably going to end up being my favorite in the series. I also have a feeling there's going to be loads of awesome facts for this series.
      Thanks for the support!

  • @BawesomeBurf
    @BawesomeBurf 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty much agree with everything you said, although I preferred the ES mechs to the AGWS. There was at least a use for them here. I think I used AGWS for a whole 2 battles in the first game.
    A couple other things that really annoyed me is how you could sneak up on an enemy in the field, but somehow end up being surrounded when the battle begins. Also thought it was extremely lazy on their part to make us run through the same dungeon twice. It does kinda make sense from a story perspective, but there had to have been a better way to present that section.

  • @Taikaru
    @Taikaru 4 роки тому +3

    Darn, how did I miss this! UA-cam suggestions, you've been letting me down. I agree Xenosaga II was weaker, and I resent that it may have killed my favorite series... but I for one still loved it. A lot of the music was dodgy and the change in tone startling, but I still found many of the tracks composed by Kajiura, such as "Lamentation" and "She's Coming Back". Many complain about the difficulty/grindiness, but I don't remember that at all... must because I played it when I was younger and had a lot more time. Ha! Either way, it's still my fondest hope that someday it is remastered, and the full Perfect Works vision completed.

  • @EvilCronos13
    @EvilCronos13 4 роки тому +4

    Xenosaga II brings back a number of things that you miss in the second game, such as some voice actors returning, a musical style that is somewhere between the first and second games, a simpler combat system and borrows from both previous games, and a faster paced story.
    Xenosaga is a great trilogy and really enjoyable story to follow across all 3 games. Each game has a different style of art, combat, music, and tone. The second game in the series is considered to be the worst of the 3 for good reason, but it's required to play this one too to get the full story. The combat is the aspect of the game that bothered me the most during my initial playthrough as a kid, but after doing a lot of research and preparation, I've been able to find a lot more ways to make the combat a lot more bearable and while I still find combat takes far too long, it's not as bad once you know a lot about weaknesses and how to exploit them.
    It's too bad they weren't able to do all 6 games they wanted and connect back to Xenogears. Maybe then the final game wouldn't be so rushed.

  • @zionne2716
    @zionne2716 3 роки тому +1

    Great reviews ! You quite often hit the nail on the head with pros and cons.

  • @jemucore8170
    @jemucore8170 3 роки тому +1

    I found the ad for this game in an old shonen jump. Thanks for answering lol my questions about this game, grate review.

  • @mathieudeforge9787
    @mathieudeforge9787 4 роки тому +1

    Wow this was a really high quality modern review of a game series that seems like it should have a lot more notoriety still today. The review didn't spoil anything for me, while still showing and mentioning just enough teases of game play and ideas that the game explores to get me really excited to play the game. I just searched this up after FINALLY playing Xenoblade Chronicles X, neglecting it for years after buying it and never doing anything with it because it just didn't feel like the original Xenoblade Chronicles to me. Anyways I finally came around to playing the game and now I want a game that is more similar to Xenoblade Chronicles X and this review kind of cemented that continuing the explore the Xeno series further is what I'm gunna do. I'll check out your review of Episode 1 and 3 first, but I'm pretty sure I'll play these after seeing this, even if you're saying this is the weak point in the series from what I'm understanding. Keep up the good work. You got a new sub.

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому

      Thanks mate. Glad you enjoyed. You've played Xenogears, right? That's the best of the lot.

  • @wezyr1
    @wezyr1 4 роки тому +2

    Another detailed and informative video.The best Xenosaga Episode 2 review out there.Keep it up good Sir.

  • @princeroan
    @princeroan 2 роки тому +2

    when this game came out i fell in love with this game. i didnt think much of the sidequest but the story, music and battle system were just perfect to me back when this first came out. then i remember going on gamefaqs afterwards and seeing a lot of people saying how much this game sucked ass. i was so confused... i never got around to playing the third game, which i own lol... i just remember loving the character s so much in this game. choas being my favorite. jr, albedo, momo, jin, shion, kosmos!!! i liked just about everyone, even some of the baddies lol. jr. always gave me billy vibes from xenogears just because of the hair style and guns. >___>

  • @500features
    @500features 4 роки тому +2

    I remember it was a grind to play through in 2004 and did not enjoy it had it not been for the story. I wouldn't recommend people playing it today though. There are full fmvs and games scenes on youtube that I would rather recommend people to watch that if they want to keep up with the story.

  • @faidou9954
    @faidou9954 4 роки тому +2

    I honestly don't mind the more realistic designs of the characters in this entry nor the audio designs. I understand your gripes with everything else, though.

  • @Butterflywings011
    @Butterflywings011 3 роки тому +4

    My favorite games were the first and third game. Yes the 2nd game had good graphics and soundtracks, but it was worse than the first one.

  • @redstratus97
    @redstratus97 Рік тому

    The story kept me going with this game. Yes there are a ton of flaws and some of the sidequests were so bad they felt like your teeth were getting pulled. Lots of very annoying parts in this 2nd game for sure. But the story maintains it’s good flow and I was very much hooked to see how it went. Didn’t even bother with the endgame content. It’s not necessary at all as that side quest really doesn’t matter much to the big story. I will highly recommend playing this one with a guide. It makes it slightly more bearable.

  • @gamingtothefullest6418
    @gamingtothefullest6418 Рік тому

    Thank God for episode 3, because this game didn't do KOS-MOS any justice, despite being on the cover of the game. Case in point; 7:20, from a highly sophisticated battle android that's armed to the teeth and can take out legions of enemies to a window washer. That simple side quest reflects perfectly how KOS-MOS got the short end of the stick in this game. Yes, I know that story wise this game is meant to focus on the backstory of some of the other characters, but still they could've shared the spotlight with KOS-MOS given that she is the central protagonist and the mascot of the series.

  • @Mugiwara2k
    @Mugiwara2k Рік тому

    I remember playing the first game way back in the early 2000’s and absolutely loving it and eagerly looked forward to the sequel.. only to be disappointed by what it ended up being.
    It’s not a bad game by any means, but it’s a massive drop off when compared to the excellent first game (And the 3rd is in between the 1st and 2nd games in terms of quality)

  • @willanrac
    @willanrac 4 роки тому +1

    I really love teh xenosaga series, but This is still the only game of the three I"ve only completed once. I've tried multiple times to get through it, but after goign through the digital forest for momo(?) just remember hall ways of forests with stupid mobs, that slog just killed any motivation to keep going.

  • @sephirrothvt
    @sephirrothvt 4 роки тому +1

    I love the lack of emotions on faces it makes it a lo lot of fun like if the people were closer to robots.

  • @Tsohartales1774
    @Tsohartales1774 4 роки тому +1

    I really enjoyed your review on Xenosaga I and II. Xenosaga is one of my favorite rpgs .. I should also mention the big news, that Xenosaga IV will be coming soon this year as a Movie!. Xenosaga IV will take place after Episode 3. I have been working super hard on a live action Xenosaga movie. The name of coming movie is : Xenosaga IV: Eternal circle of Zarathustra.

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому

      Hey mate. Sounds awesome? Where can i follow the progress?

    • @Tsohartales1774
      @Tsohartales1774 4 роки тому

      @@HellFireRPGs Hey. Well you can follow me on my channel Jeho87. Plus I will send the link to the trailer for Xenosaga IV for you. ua-cam.com/video/vEAppJnFM-0/v-deo.html
      I also have a behind the scenes for Xenosaga IV on my channel too.

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому

      Will do. Cheers for the info

  • @Mr.VonStoogle
    @Mr.VonStoogle 4 роки тому +3

    Love the 1st game , but episode 2 what a f*ckin drag! They f'ed up so much with this game, horribly tedious battle system, bland visuals, voice actors sounded off or some were replaced, and too much time was spent on the U.R.T.V.'s (I like Jr., Gaignun, and Albedo but really didnt need all that backstory). I only managed to get through this game once, its just sooo boring. The only ways Id ever replay it is if
    1. it were remastered with the others (id force my way through a 2nd time)
    2. it was remade and all 3 games had the same combat without any of 2's tedious crap. I'd prefer the 1st games Xenogears inspired combat but 3's standard menu based stuff would work too. Would not be happy with a more action rpg approach either, that pretty much soured me on Square's rpgs starting with FF12.
    Episode 3 was pretty good even though I really didnt like Shion in it she kind of was an idiot.

  • @MrRPGcrazy
    @MrRPGcrazy 4 роки тому

    I personally really like this game, I only really find Kosmos to have bad voice actor in this game. I actually think Chaos was an improvement and Momo was about the same quality. Lucky for us Shion and Kosmos voice actors from 1 returns in 3. The music is great imo, sure there are some bad tracks(but I do like episode 1 soundtrack more still). The Combat has Its issues but when you understand it Its quite fun imo, I do like ES battles, sure Its simple but that does not have to be a bad thing.
    In your rating system this would be a 80-85% for me I think. I prefer this trilogy over Xenogears by quite a huge margin. Mainly because the translation is so much better and have much better dungeons.(Xenogears dungeons are terrible imo).
    Good video.

  • @alexbooker2582
    @alexbooker2582 Рік тому

    I wish the developers could've stuck with some of the old stuff like the battle system, the original voice actors, skills and so fourth. If they did they probably would've had a successful 6 part series.

    • @Chelaxim
      @Chelaxim Рік тому +1

      Xenosaga I&II DS had the second game with the battle system of the first and Shion is the MC.

  • @windwaker0rules
    @windwaker0rules 4 роки тому +1

    ah the only one released in PAL.... WHY?!?!?! same as well releasing only Episode 2 of star wars or Goblet of Fire for Harry Potter

  • @Makoto03
    @Makoto03 4 роки тому

    I loved Xenosaga episode 2 story wise but the game overall felt like such a such a step backwards presentation wise. I also disliked the new look for Shion. I loved the post credit scene revelation about Chaos though, which got me pumped for episode 3.

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, it made me jump straight into the third. Luckily I didn't have to wait years for the release.

  • @theflyingninja1
    @theflyingninja1 4 роки тому +1

    An amazing series but it just left so many things unexplained.

  • @lonewolf12361
    @lonewolf12361 3 роки тому +1

    yea this game is a little slow but i did use some cheats to give me extra class, skill points and extra items and it made the battles go faster since I got stronger skills a little quicker.

  • @sephirrothvt
    @sephirrothvt 4 роки тому +1

    Developers did not know what were doing and were mixing up

  • @YacDiesel
    @YacDiesel 3 роки тому +2

    The story was great, but the battle system made it virtually unplayable. It’s no wonder the series flopped after this entry.

  • @notsogoodgamer2334
    @notsogoodgamer2334 3 роки тому +1

    My biggest problem with this one was the combat I hated it.

  • @sonh788
    @sonh788 11 місяців тому

    Bought this and glad i didnt waste any more time on it after the first 2 hours . Even better i paid $20😅

  • @CaptainMauser
    @CaptainMauser 4 роки тому +1

    Every character looks botoxed to insanity Played the Final fantasy 7 demo?

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому +1

      I have! It was awesome. My holidays start the day it's released. I can't wait. Did you like the demo?

    • @CaptainMauser
      @CaptainMauser 4 роки тому

      @@HellFireRPGs Yeah. Haven't felt this pumped since Dark Souls

  • @shaifs5072
    @shaifs5072 2 роки тому

    Voice acting in this was almost as bad as the hand textures. KOS-MOS and Shion were the worst. "Oh no, poor Momo." sums how I feel about it. Story started off well but fell off after Momo's subconscious section. My main problem is that it felt like nothing happened after that. The shift away from Gnosis was very jarring. Battle system was engaging enough but far from X1

  • @sephirrothvt
    @sephirrothvt 4 роки тому

    Why FEI does not appear on this game?

  • @FushigiYuugiFanboy
    @FushigiYuugiFanboy 4 роки тому

    I don't completely hate this game but it is by far the worst in the Xeno franchise for me. I didn't really care for the gameplay, but the music and story were great.
    The voices were... Ok. The only one that legitimately bothered me was Shion at first, but as the game went on it grew on me. The original was sorely missed.
    I do find it hilarious that they took out shops and then proceeded to make them a "feature" on the back of the boxart for Xenosaga 3.

  • @true-omegaid8467
    @true-omegaid8467 4 роки тому +1

    Battle system commits Xenosaga 2.

  • @nigma195
    @nigma195 9 місяців тому

    I don't like the direction they went with with episode 2 at all it's really a different game all together it feels like. It feels like it has no connection to the 1st one at all. I'm bothered by that but i just want to get through the story. Hopefully ep3 is much better

  • @windwaker0rules
    @windwaker0rules 4 роки тому

    Cast is a downgrade mostly except for Joshua Seth as chaos even though he is known for Tai its hard to notice because he did a good job. I also like Shions new clothes it shows character progression and i hate her big eyes in the first game, there is anime eyes and then there is X1 Shion.

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому

      I liked the full anime style more than what they did with Episode 3. Ep 3 is better than both though. I love it so far.

  • @sector7676
    @sector7676 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah, and xenosaga 3 only cost $200!!!! 😡

  • @DeadVoivod
    @DeadVoivod 4 роки тому +1

    Episode 2 was the weakest of the trilogy, especially what you mentioned about grinding and the somewhat complex battle system.

  • @YouTubeCensors
    @YouTubeCensors 2 роки тому +1

    The art style is vastly superior to ep1 BUT the in game visuals were 🤮

  • @nathanknight848
    @nathanknight848 5 місяців тому

    Love 3 and 1 but this was a massive dissapointment. Xenosaga 2 Stopped being fun and turned into a grind.

  • @northsouth1256
    @northsouth1256 4 роки тому

    umm why are they fighting in their underwears?

    • @HellFireRPGs
      @HellFireRPGs  4 роки тому +2

      The swimsuits can be used to give you a few benefits.

  • @jasonblade5872
    @jasonblade5872 3 роки тому +2

    Fed up with this stupid game! Easily the worst of the series.