Great full to have studied with a teacher who was in Cleveland Orch under Szell when at CIM. ♡♡♡even though it was after Szell he gave that orchestra their sound.. and the articulation...don't get me started! So right!
He owned this symphony… what is astonishing is how incredibly consistent his tempo always was… if you look at all of his recorded 5ths (Cleveland, Concertgebouw, Vienna live, and this one above) the first movement is always just about 7:35 … across years, orchestras etc … one of the greatest of all classical musicians
Me gusta el tempo y la energía que le imprime el director. Muchos de los directores actuales tienden a suavizar esta sinfonía y con un tempo demasiado lento en mi opinión. La versión de Benjamin Zander y Karajan también van en la misma dirección que esta
Where was this recorded? This is definitely not Orchestra Hall in downtown Chicago nor Medianh Temple (the CSO’s alternate recording location), nor Ravinia Festival. This looks like a television studio. I’m guessing that this was recorded at the then brand new WGN Studio at 2501 West Bradley Place in Chicago. Does anyone know for sure?
@@bloodgrss I never personally thought Szell was "brilliant". I always felt he was more than that. And when I learned that he was a Furtwängler admirer, it confirmed my feelings. I would love to hear a Reiner Cleveland Beethoven 5. Midwestern orchestras, led by virtuosi like Rodzinski and Szell and Reiner and Kubelik are a fascination of mine.
Can't say I disagree with you about Midwestern orchestras led by virtuoso geniuses. Humbly, I offer you one I posted years ago with Sir Thomas Beecham: ua-cam.com/video/KnSqNNlkLxo/v-deo.html@@ilirllukaci5345
Szell took certain liberties with this piece wherever he went. But they made sense. Take, for example, in the first movement, the horn call transition to the second theme. In the recap, Beethoven writes this figure for the "lightweight" bassoons. Szell says: uh-uh, and gives the figure back to the "mighty" horns to play...a justfiable tweek considering the sheer power of this movement. To me, this is Szell covering up one of LvB's very, very infrequent composition errors. Szell's rendition certainly works for me.
Foolish-it was an adorned studio that lent itself to better camera coverage than a concert hall. The sonics were compromised, but that was also due to the recording technology of the day. Sad your unintelligent opinion has embarrassed you for 3 years...
The greatest performance of this symphony I have ever heard. What a privilege to hear this.
Great full to have studied with a teacher who was in Cleveland Orch under Szell when at CIM. ♡♡♡even though it was after Szell he gave that orchestra their sound.. and the articulation...don't get me started! So right!
An intense and absorbing rendition of the Fifth, led by the great George Szell.
He owned this symphony… what is astonishing is how incredibly consistent his tempo always was… if you look at all of his recorded 5ths (Cleveland, Concertgebouw, Vienna live, and this one above) the first movement is always just about 7:35 … across years, orchestras etc … one of the greatest of all classical musicians
There are many outstanding recordings of this Symphony. No performer "owns" any piece of music.
Szell is my favorite, I sympathize with his philosophy very much " beauty can not be born out of chaos"
Szell idolized Furtwängler. And that beauty was born out of the Ur mist.
saw him back in 1969 at severance hall. in fact, I have a poster in my bedroom of george szell!
The master at work. Szell IS the greatest conductor of all time.
My god, thrilling!
Simply great
Listening to recordings, I was wondering how Szell conducted. He mostly used abrupt, precise movements. And this piece was a hallmark of George Szell.
Szell's Beethoven 3rd isn't too shabby either.
His B3 recording with Cleveland is now considered to be the gold standard.
FWIW, a very young Bud Herseth (Principal Trumpet) is seen at 24:56, 26:22 and 28:28.
Me gusta el tempo y la energía que le imprime el director. Muchos de los directores actuales tienden a suavizar esta sinfonía y con un tempo demasiado lento en mi opinión. La versión de Benjamin Zander y Karajan también van en la misma dirección que esta
Where was this recorded? This is definitely not Orchestra Hall in downtown Chicago nor Medianh Temple (the CSO’s alternate recording location), nor Ravinia Festival. This looks like a television studio.
I’m guessing that this was recorded at the then brand new WGN Studio at 2501 West Bradley Place in Chicago. Does anyone know for sure?
I heard that George Szell temporarily was replacing very sick Fritz Reiner (the original Music Director), who suffered a heart attack.
Adelstein was in fine form.
Now try to imagine a Reiner Cleveland 5th!?!?
Why-this one is brilliant enough...
@@bloodgrss I never personally thought Szell was "brilliant". I always felt he was more than that. And when I learned that he was a Furtwängler admirer, it confirmed my feelings.
I would love to hear a Reiner Cleveland Beethoven 5. Midwestern orchestras, led by virtuosi like Rodzinski and Szell and Reiner and Kubelik are a fascination of mine.
Can't say I disagree with you about Midwestern orchestras led by virtuoso geniuses. Humbly, I offer you one I posted years ago with Sir Thomas Beecham: ua-cam.com/video/KnSqNNlkLxo/v-deo.html@@ilirllukaci5345
Oh, and with Beecham conducting Reiner's orchestra...@@ilirllukaci5345
@@ilirllukaci5345 Another one for you:ua-cam.com/video/MfH6oj76qu4/v-deo.html
Is this George Szell's interpretation of Beethoven or Beethoven ?
Both
Silly-could be said of ANY conductor's interpretation. Beethoven is dead you know...
Szell took certain liberties with this piece wherever he went. But they made sense. Take, for example, in the first movement, the horn call transition to the second theme. In the recap, Beethoven writes this figure for the "lightweight" bassoons. Szell says: uh-uh, and gives the figure back to the "mighty" horns to play...a justfiable tweek considering the sheer power of this movement. To me, this is Szell covering up one of LvB's very, very infrequent composition errors. Szell's rendition certainly works for me.
herseth
So who’s idea was it to have one of the world’s greatest orchestras filmed and recorded at this sonically inert hotel venue......?
Foolish-it was an adorned studio that lent itself to better camera coverage than a concert hall. The sonics were compromised, but that was also due to the recording technology of the day. Sad your unintelligent opinion has embarrassed you for 3 years...
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