@@allnight1619 thanks! Yep, I do try to get back to everyone, there sometimes are a few comments that manage to slip through the cracks but I do my best! Thanks for watching 🙏
This is a really good review. I'm a shop guy, with a pretty decent knowledge of the current trends and tech in the industry. You dropped a lot of facts in this vid. You even mentioned the reason why the Orca became so big... that Travis Rice vid with him dropping pillows in Japan.... insane.... After that everyone wanted it... and after that, every company has tried to make their own versions.... I'm about to pick up a Dancehaul myself, so have been looking for reviews on it... You knocked this one out of the park. Thank you for your detailed take on this board. You have a new subscriber.
Thanks Ashley, I appreciate the comment! You'll love the board, I still haven't been able to ride it as much as I would have liked, all the lifts here in France are still shut. The only thing that has changed since I reviewed it is that I'm actually finding it is quite good on rails now too, I've been using it on a DIY rail setup and actually really like it, it just took a little bit of getting used to!
Mine arrived a few days back & I cannot wait to try it out. This amazing review was the main reason for choosing the ‘Dancehaul’. Thank you Malcolm 🕺🏽. Hope the lifts open for you soon🤞.
What did you think of the Dancehall? I ride a 158W assassin and looking at the 22/23 152 and keep both boards. This will be for next season and buying now while discounting is available is always a good idea. I think Salomon will be making a 154 in the dancehall for 23/24 so this could be a better option for my 90kg weight. Any info from you guys would be awesome. 😎 Thanks in advance
Nice video and nice board! Didn't realize the gold top sheet has a glittery look to it. Looks really good! Big ups to your camera person - really helped to make your video look clean. Can't wait to see you rip through the Sarenne on that thing!
Malcolm this is one of the best board reviews i have seen and i watched alot from probly everyone one youtube, very in depth if you have the time to do some demos i would really like to hear your opinions
Thanks David, I was supposed to be at some of the board tests this spring but they were all cancelled. I'm going to be doing some stuff for whitelines magazine so later in this season I'll have some stuff, for the following season, to test! And before that anything I can get my hands on I'll make sure to review!
Malcolm Moore I have a idea! You should visit these demo days, where you can pick some boards f.e. Capita Mercury or Lib Tech Travis Pro. Make some reviews and meet people out of the industry. May be a little bit naive, but c‘mon! 🤜🤛🤙🏻🏂
@@thomasgebhard3332 I've just been speaking with Whitelines magazine and they're actually gonna send me some stuff out to try at the end of this winter!
Hi Malcolm! Nice purchase spectacular Dancehaul!🚀In spring i bought a Lobster Aaron Schwartz, aesthetically it has a shape similar to yours.😊 These latest surfboards they have created are magnificent. I hope that the Covid situation improves a little for the winter in this bad year, so as to run more peaceful. See you next time Hi Malcolm🍻❄
I was looking at the warpig, that's how I found your channel. Then I stumbled upon the, superpig. As you know, it has the same profile as that, dancehaul. I love the design of that dancehaul. Reminded me a muscle car design. Unfortunately I've not been able to get out to try the superpig yet . Should be good tho. Great vid, thanks 🤙
Its funny because I already own the Lib Tech Orca "last seasons model" which I love and was going to buy the new tech they added to their snowboard this season, but your video popped up when searching for the Lib Tech Orca and after watching your review I decided to buy the Salomon Dancehaul instead. Your review was killer and looking forward to seeing you rip on this board more in your videos!
@@malcolmmoore one last thing...I own the Orca as well and use Union Atlas Bindings, do you recommend a specific binding you like for the Dancehaul or will the Atlas be good for both? Tks
@@carmen172 yeah the atlas is a great binding, I've had issues with unions breaking, but they ride well if they dont! If they're working fine theres no need for a different pair of bindings
Excellent review and stylish riding man. You're killing it out there and it's great seeing someone have so much fun on the mountain. Was planning on traveling to the Alps this year to snowboard, but with everything the way it is it seems like that may need to wait a bit longer. Stay safe out there and keep shredding
Well Malcolm, tomorrow is the day! Dancehaul is going up to Keystone with me! Last week I brought up my Harpoon and the week before, my K2 Manifest Team. Doing all the same piste runs on all 3 boards, so I’ll be able to make comparisons and see how different they all ride.
It’s amazing how well your channel has done the past year. I’ve been coming back to your videos to always brush up and learn new things. Keep it up! And now I’ve decided to get a Dancehaul 21/22. I’m 5’10” and about 75kg. It seems like the 147 is the recommended size, but I love my aggressive riding and the aggressive carving (trying to learn the eurocarve). Should I size up to the 152 or stay with the 147? How different do you think the maneuverability will be?
Thanks for watching! I would go for the 152, you don't need to size down as much on this board. For this board I ride the 157, whereas for the ride warpig I went down to 154.
Malcom. Thanks for your reviews. Really great to get reviewers perspectives on new gear, especially new decks. After going down the research hole of the Dancehaul and not being able to get one last year I know have the 157 and 152 in plastic starting at me in my garage. I have not found any shop that carries it as a rental to be able t demo it. I am 6’2” (188)cm and. 175lbs (81)kg. Size 10.5US boot. I ride northern MN, mostly hard pack and make a few trips to CO or UT each year. Ride park very little just small features chasing the kids. Still love deep powder in upper bowls. Currently riding the Mercury Capita 161 and will keep it. Let me know if you have a suggestion on the 157 or 152. Appreciate your insight. Cheers.
I had that same problem except with 147/152. I haven’t rode it yet but from other reviews the 152 goes up to a 264mm waists width so you got plenty of room with that
i’d go with the 157 given you normally ride a 161 and want the float in deep powder. i went through the same thing before i bought my 152 and i’m a bit heavier than you but i normally ride a 155 for all mtn and wanted something more playful and park friendly. in short - you’ll be fine on both just pick the one that suits your style of riding!
Looks like the Solomon Dancehaul is awesome board for my kind of riding, ie, charging the pistes, I leave the park stuff to the younger riders! The board graphics are great too not too in your face, understated and retro. I decided to move on from my Solomon Craft and recently got hold of the Jones Frontier (158W). Tried it out in the snowdome, way stiffer than the Solomon, can't wait to try in out on the mountains....just hoping this COVID19 situation doesn't stop me from going to the Alps next winter! Would be good if you are able to provide us with some developments regarding this and what the resorts are doing to cope with the pandemic for next season! 👍👍
Yeah definitely going to be a good on mountain board, I may even test it at Hemel Hempstead if I'm able to get back to the UK at all this October! 😂 Regarding this winter, at present I think ski resorts will be relatively normal just with the caveat of compulsory masks on lifts. I feel like the main issue will be the travel out here, depending if quarantines are still in place. Also, many tour operators such as crystal or neilson have dropped a large number of their chalets and hotels, so you may need to book all the aspects of the holiday independently. And hopefully there's going to be lots of snow! 🤞
Had to watch this twice because the footage was so clean lol. I don't even need a new board! Also seems like whenever snowboarders switch back to a more traditional Camber, they love it more than anything. Any thoughts on your preferred kind of board (Camber, Rocker, etc)?
Thanks Yawnz! Yeah I've got to say I was loving the feeling of camber here, it's actually been a few years since I've been on a normal cambered board and it just felt great. I'd become accustomed to pushing my knees out wider to help translate my weight across the entire board on the warpig, but this you can just stay centered and the camber does alot of the work for you, plus the bounce out of turns is so rewarding!
Have you tried out a Superpig? What are your thoughts? Having ridden the The Warpig, Superpig, Orca and Dancehall, i would not even put the Orca in the same ballpark as the rest of them, it was mediocre at everything i tried on it, it was ok. All the other boards you have mentioned here are special or excel in some way, but the Orca turned out to be a beacon of overhyped mediocrity. More reviews please, love this format.
Thanks, no but those are definitely boards I would like to try. From what I understand the gremlin would work pretty similar to this board. The Yes Y is the more beginner friendly version of the optimistic. That I have tried and is a great board but with quite a different feel. It carves amazingly well but it is less playful, and although it is is good in powder i would say the dancehaul has the edge here with the more traditional powder board outline.
@@malcolmmoore I appreciate you. Yes, I hear that The Y. is a softer Optimistic. Not necessarily a "beginners board" by being softer though; more playful for sure. Keep up the great work! I'm digging in to all your content. So much great stuff.
Hey Malcolm. Epic content once again. Shot well with great editing to boot. I would please like to ask your opinion on this board. I am 70kg (155lbs), 176 cm (5 feet 9.3 inches), size 9 US (8 uk). I would classify myself as an intermediate rider. I rarely ride switch due to a knee injury, but I do like to hit the park and do basic rails. I'm mostly a groomer rider through. I don't like a true camber board due to it being too catchy. I'm looking at getting the 147cm. Do you think this would be a good fit for my size and riding style in your proffesional opinion? Thank you and keep up the great content.
What size board do you normally ride? I found you dont need to size down on this board as much as you do for other volume shifted boards for instance I normally ride a 160 in a standard all mountain board, on my ride warpig I rode a 154, whereas on this I have the 157. I felt like alot of the length was contained within the big nose therefore it didn't actually feel all that different on piste. I'm sure the 147 will be fine but you could probably go up to the 152 as well. Unless you are really looking for a super small board I wouldn't size down too much!
Hey Malcolm, I bought the Salomon dancehall board last year and absolutely love it. Ive seen the Amplid dada 2022 version for a great price and saw it was one of your favourites. Do you still rate it as an addition to a quiver or is it very similar to the Dancehall? Love the videos. Keep em coming. Thanks
Dada is softer and more playful for jibbing etc, but still also carves well and can still ride pow. I like them both! But if you're not too fussed about doing ground tricks there's not a whole load of improvement to be had from the dada over the dancehaul!
Hey Malc Great review. Just bought the Pro as found one discounted locally. Can I ask whst boots do you use? I have a pair of a well know make but cannot believe how quickly the lace eyes have drilled through the tongue. Cheers, Niall
Great vid, more reviews! I definitely need to jump on that goldie. For the sake of keeping the facts straight, Capita Slush Slasher (flat), Rossi Sushi (camrock) or Yes Optimistic (after the revamp, camrock then camber) were the ones that pushed the directional freeride/powder volume shifted hype long before the Orca.
Yeah true but that didn't fit in with my narrative so much! 😂 But aside from maybe the yes optimistic I dont feel like these are really boards that you'd want to take down big mountain lines, so although they're good in powder they're not really for big mountain free riding. Whereas I feel like this board and the orca would be comfortable charging steep couloirs. I'm just imagining taking the slush slasher down something like that! 😂
Malcolm Moore I haven’t ridden my Slush Slasher yet but I don’t count on that either 😁 The short fats fit perfectly the scenario and riding style you covered in your vid imo 👍
@@DG-xj6zv yeah, I love the volume shifted boards, I used to have such a nightmare finding boards wide enough to properly carve on, and I'm yet to try one that doesn't carve well!
Hello Malcolm! Would bataleon Astro full wrap be Ok for this board? I normally Ride k2 Passport and those bindings were to for it but im wondering if they wont be too stiff. Should I buy new bindings like Rome katana ? Your vids are sick bro!
Hi Malcolm! You have 2 boards that i'm trying to choose between. I mean warpig and dacehaul. What are you thoughts on comparing them? What is the pros/cons on each? I really appreciate your answer. Thanks!
The warpig is a better all rounder board, better in the park, switch, and still really good at carving. The construction they use on the topsheet (topless construction) is terrible and both warpigs I have had began to delaminate badly after about 1 month. One time they replaced the board on warranty the second time they didn't... The dancehaul is better in powder, and whilst the edge hold is probably the same as the warpig, it feels more fun to carve thanks to the camber. It is a little softer than the warpig too.
@@malcolmmoore The edge hold on the Daunchall is not much better? I live in the Midwest with icy hard snow and short runs I was hoping this would have good edge hold.
@@bbolanda1818 it's ok it's not amazing on ice, magnetraction is the best for ice, but I find it annoying in pretty much every other circumstance. Its grabby in wet snow, and doesn't give a smooth feel when carving. So it's a trade off! the dancehaul is primarily a powder board though, so if you're not going to ride much powder it might not be the best option...
If you want it is a pow board for tight trees I would go for the 152, or if you specifically want a really agile board. For most other scenarios I would probably take the 157 though. 👍
@@malcolmmoore Do you know what the weight range is on that board? Also how do you think it would do on hard snow or if you hit a little ice? Thanks in advance.
@@bbolanda1818 check out the spec sheet on the salomon website, but it's a pretty broad window. Unless you're pushing 100kgs you'll be fine on the 157!
@@malcolmmoore would you suggest 152 or 157 for 75kg, 10,5 boot 187cm? coming from 159 lib tech trs and bataleon goliath. Looking to run all - groomers, trees and powder
Thanks for this review. As an old snowboarder that could not practice much because of young kids, I want to come back. What do you think of Burton step-on bindings on the Dancehaul salomon board ? Would be a nice fit ? (Remind, I am old :-) Thanks.
I haven't tried the step ons myself but have taught a few people with them and they've had no issues. If you live somewhere icy having ridden the dancehaul a bit more now it isn't the best in those conditions, but everywhere else it is fine!
@@malcolmmoore What would you recommend over the Dancehaul for those icy conditions, getting back to boarding after having kids, intermediate, not hard charging, on piste?
I get goosebumps watching this video! My 21/22, 157 Dancehaul is sitting here in my office begging to be ridden. And Wolf Creek and A Basin are open! But I am not about to ruin this beautiful board on all those rocks and tree stumps poking out everywhere right now. Also, what is the song playing in the background? I LOVE it! I want to add it to my snowboard playlist.
Thanks, I can't actually remember what the song is now though I'm afraid! Can't wait to get back on the dancehaul after missing last season due to lockdowns!
@@malcolmmoore Yeah, it's been awhile for me. 6 Seasons! But I am back and ready to go. Got my Epic Pass in the mail just the other day! Breckenridge and Keystone, here I come! I wanted to ask you. I heard that at higher speeds and hard charging, the Dancehaul gets a little loose. That it's more of a fun carving playful board. Would you agree?
@@malcolmmoore Also, I like to have multiple boards in the quiver, what board you suggest that would be a totally different ride experience from the Dancehaul? Or do you just rock the one board?
As for multiple boards yeah I have a few. My new one for this season is the amplid dada. www.amplid.com/?sPartner=MalcolmM It's another volume shifted one, I tested it this summer and loved it. I also rode the souly grail and killswitch from amplid too. The souly grail was great but a bit too directional for me, and the killswitch was cool, but not as fun as the dada. I'm always intrigued by new shapes though, the gnu banked country for this season looks cool. I've always wanted to try the yes 420, but I think I would be better off somewhere that gets a bit more powder than Europe! Just get as many boards as you can! The good news is that there's not many bad boards these days so just pick something that you think looks fun!
You should try a Donek.... made to your own specs. You specify the waist, length, side cut radius, layout, extra holes for powder days while maintaining a twin layout across the standard holes, standard camber. I went for 157 length, 309mm waist, 8.7m side cut. Stability is incredible, unreal speed and incredible float. No gimmicks. Put it on an edge - stay on an edge - and the maneuverability shocked me.
@@malcolmmoore And you get to choose whatever color and custom graphics you want. I also put the DPS Phantom treatment on the base. Unreal performance... Never have to wax again :). I love your instructional videos. They're the best.
Nice review, thanks a lot! The board looks like lots of fun. For 160-165 lbs would you go for the 147 or the 152? Boot size is 9.5, so thats no problem either way. I am intrigued by the smaller size for more agility on piste and in the trees but the float in powder will be better on the bigger one...
Yeah you've summed it up pretty well yourself there! The bigger will have better float but slightly less agile. To be honest though I would probably lean towards the 152, unless you normally ride a board of about that length anyway, and want something much smaller. But I normally ride a 159 so only sized down 2cms for the 157 and it feels great...
Nah I'm not a fan, I find it a little grabby when conditions are good. For instance on perfect snow it doesn't carve all that smoothly. The mellow magnetraction on some Jones boards is a good compromise, but I just always prefer a traditional side cut!
Hey Malcolm. As usual another great video. I was wondering what you think of this board in comparison to the warpig, which to buy and which is better all around
Basically they're both great but there's a few differences. Most importantly is actually durability, the topsheet on the ride warpig delaminates really easily. It has happened to my board and I've seen it happen to a bunch of other peoples too. Whilst it doesn't affect the ride so much it's pretty annoying. After thinking about that basically the dancehaul has the edge in powder for sure, and whilst it isn't necessarily better at carving I would say it is a little more fun. The warpig is better at riding switch and in the park. However they can both do everything pretty well!
On the strength of your great review I’ve got mine coming today. Christmas come early 😂... just hope COVID does one so I can get out to the alps in the new year to try it out !
Hi Malcolm. I’ve just bought this board based on how impressed I was when you dropped this vid back in the summer. Just wondered if you’ve now been out in some pow? If so what was it like? I can only dream right now!
I have ridden it a little, but as the lifts are shut here in france I have to hike everything, therefore I'm mostly on my split board at the moment! But it definitely works and I'm really looking forward to riding it more, but it may have to wait until next winter now the way things are going...
Hey Malcolm, excellent review! Definitely my fav snowboarding channel, learned a lot from your vids! I'm now looking to purchase my first snowboard, I'm 5'7 and in the 160-165lbs range, would you go for the 147 or 152? I don't do park much just want to carve a lot mostly as of right now. I'm also torn between this and the Salomon Assassin 156, which one would you recommend more? Thank you!
I would go 152 if you want this board, the assassin is more of an all rounder, the dancehaul is obviously quite directional. But if you're not planning on riding much switch the dancehaul is a pretty fun board!
I'm on contact Pros here, but am not a union fanboy, love the way they ride but they really fall apart in my opinion! I don't think you want too stiff of a binding for this board, that way you can ride it loose and surfy. Malavitas would work well, contact Pros like I mentioned, I think the salomon bindings with the shadow fit heelcup would work well too!
Great review! I'm torn between this and Bateleon Party Wave+, do you think 157 Dancehaul will be wide enough for my 47 EU (13-14US) boot size? Toe drags are my nightmare on most boards. Thank you!
@@malcolmmoore thx for your answer! yes, Party wave+ is wider for sure. I kinda wanna choose Dancehaul 157, but im not sure if it is wide enough for my 47 EU (13-14US) boot size :(
anyone know the name of the song? BTW great board. I would get the 2022 pro if I ever get to see one available. Bought the board because of this review.
Hi Malcolm, best snowboarding channel on youtube! im set on getting a dancehaul but torn between the 147 and 152. Im 178cm 5’10”tall and 81kgs 177 pounds so i fall right in the middle of the recommended range for the 152 and top of the 147. What would you recommend? Looking for it to be playful but wide enough for eurocarves and relatively good float in pow.. thanks!! 🙏
Perfect, thanks mate! I have to say ive watched alot of your tutorials and made notes on them. My riding this season has progressed like never before thanks to you. The way you break it down technically is perfect for how i learn. Much love from Australia 🙏
What's your stance angles on this video? Look +/+ by how you're riding but not sure. also, have you ridden the First Call? From what i can tell it seems Salomon tweaked it a bit and renamed it to Danchaul (love the new graphics on the dancehaul tho).
I'm +18 -12. I have ridden the first call and it's basically the sick stick but with slightly cheaper base and construction. The dancehaul is quite different and was actually taken from the Max Buri pro model. I would say the first call feels more like a traditional pow board whereas this is definitely a bit more nimble and has that volume shifted feel to it!
Awesome review man! Just picked up this board based off your review. I'm 5'10 160 lbs with a 10" boot size. I was recommend to get the 152 because I was told it would handle speed much better. Was wondering what your take is, was really hoping to get away with the 147 for that more playful feel and quick turn initiation. Would i really be giving up good handling at speed if i sized down? Thanks for the great review 🤙🏻
It's not as good as magnetraction edges or anything like that, the sidecut is just a standard sidecut. However the camber does a good job of applying pressure along the whole edge. It's not bad at all but if you're on the east coast or ride somewhere with loads of ice it might not be the best!
@@malcolmmoore I just wanted to follow up and see if you think this or the Warpig would be better on the Ice Coast. I imagine this, because it is camber. But in some of your previous videos, you handled mixed (icy) condition on your Warpig. Thanks for all the great content!
If it becomes your main board I will miss the seeing other warpig board, the base of it left a pretty colorful reflective glow on the snow during turns. Originally thought that was some good post processing on the video until I saw it was the board :D
Hey, thanks for that awsome review for both this and the WarPig... I'm basicaly sold on the Superpig, but still wondering if this or the Warpig/Superpig rides/carves better switch? I have a nice high-performance Twin that is amazing funt to carve but its just 263waist and I can boot it out all 4 ways (size 10 or 10.5)
Thanks :) already looking at it... Kind of packing my van for after Christmas, looking for any place to go riding... Packing my kites as well #bringyourownlift
@@malcolmmoore have to see how border and quarantine regulations will be after Christmas, but as of right now it looks like Switzerland although the most known places for snowkiteing are in France... How are things developing down where you are?
I generally stick the same all the time now. +18 -12. It just seems to work for me in all scenarios, and its not too pushed out that riding switch feels too different.
will you be swapping from your warpig to the salomon board ? (i am just on edge to buy the new war pig, i mostly ride pistes and sometimes just off piste and i would say im just an intermediate rider)
Yeah, I still have the warpig but I think I'll mostly use the salomon this year. Apart from riding park I guess. I had issues with the warpig delaminating which wound me up a bit in the end!
Hey Malcom ! thanks for another great review... So, what would you say to someone thinking of buying either the Dancehaul or the Orca (price diff. apart...) ?? Also, what would size would you recommend for the dancehaul for a 6' / 200lbs / 11 shoe size ? Would have loved an in between 152 & 157 option....... Thanks a lot in advance and happy winter to everyone !! Peace from Switzerland !!
I haven't actually ridden the orca so I cant say for certain but I reckon the only area in which the orca wins is on ice due to the magnetraction... I would say go for the 157, that's what I'm on and you're a little bigger than me. If you really want something for riding tight trees the 152 will work, but seeing as you're in Switzerland I reckon you don't spend too much time in the trees, unless we get a low snow line!
Wondering how you feel about riding the contact pro bindings? They are supposed to be quite soft right? But you like them for more aggressive carving etc?
Yeah aside from my gripe I the review which you've now seen I love them. For me board feel is really important and they have great board feel. They're not that stiff no but I prefer to have a bit of flex and if you use your ankles well and have reasonably stiff boots then it's not an issue!
Malcolm: I have just discovered your Ride Warpig has a rocker-flat-rocket profile with a medium flex. It speaks well for your techniques to grip on hard pack! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hey, I've still got it however I'm barely able to ride at the moment. The lifts here in France are staying closed this season meaning that I have to hike every run I do. That means I'm either on my split board, or I have been using more of a twin board for my tutorial vids. I can't wait to get back on it though, but it might need to wait until next season now, gutted!
Hey Malcolm, I’m debating between the 52 Dancehaul and the evo exclusive Dancehaul Pro. I understand the pro is about 20% stiffer. Based on your experience with the regular Dancehaul and having the “perfect flex”, do you anticipate the moderate increase in stiffness to have significant effect on the edge hold, carving, general playfulness, etc?
The added stiffness will improve it at high speeds and when charging through choppy terrain. It will probably have better edge hold too, but it will lose some of the powder butter ability and general playfulness! If you charge fast alot I would go for the stiffer one, if you mess around I bit more I would go for the regular one!
Do you have any experience with the K2 Simple Pleasures? That is my current do everything board, since I do not ride park, other than hitting small to medium jumps. I love my Simple Pleasures on powder days and it does good carving on groomers, but I feel like I want a board with a bit more bite and better carving on groomed runs. Do you think the Dancehall is enough of an upgrade over my K2 on piste to make it worth buy a secons board in the same category? Or do you have a recommendation for a purely on piste carving board? My boots are size 11 and I get a bit of toe/heal drag on my Simple Pleasures when the snow is soft. Thanks for any input you my give.
Hey, I'm on burton imperials which I get every season. Also union contact Pros which ride great but literally fall apart. Probably gonna get some burton cartels when I have some cash. Haven't had a chance to ride the dancehaul much more yet as the resorts here in france are still shut due to the virus!
Aww buddy. I can't even imagine. I'm in Canada at the moment and it's basically lock down except for the ski hills. Keeping our fingers crossed every day they stay open. Hope they open for you dude. Happy New Year
I think I'll use it quite alot, but I'll probably keep the warpig for teaching, as it is so much better switch! But in reality, when I'm riding for myself, I don't ride switch all that much, so that's why I've been leaning towards something a bit more directional!
@@malcolmmoore I used the same logic and bought the Endevour Archetype. Something with a bit more width might be better in the future for me, size 11 (US) boots are pushing it for my board. So I'm very interested in this Salomon.
@@AndrewJonathanHill I'm thinking about maybe getting a super soft park board just to try something completely different - now I have this in my arsenal, maybe next season though, can't keep buying boards! 😂
Bought the new DOA but i think i will switch to this... i never do park and love carving and powder... at 5ft5 and 160 pound..what size you board is a good fit for me?
Either the 152 or the smaller one, 147 I think, will work. If you normally ride a board around 155 or so go for the 152, but if you normally ride like a 150 go for the 147. Basically size down 2 or 3 cms
Hey Malcolm, Trying to deicde between a 157 and a 152 to compliment my 158W Burton Custom. I'm 6'1 and 175lbs with a 12 boot size. I ride pretty aggressively and log around 50 days in Colorado. What size do you think would be the best? Keep up the good work.
Hey Liam, You are right in the middle but I would probably lean towards the 157, but if you want a more nimble tree board you could definitely drop to the 152. With covid keeping resorts shut here last season I still haven't really ridden this board much. I'm actually moving into the amplid dada for this season, you can see that here, (this is an Affiliate link btw but it is a decent Board!) www.amplid.com/?sPartner=MalcolmM However this board is much more similar to something like the ride warpig. I've been liking the look of the gnu banked country this season too which although not a volume shifted board, looks to kind of offer a similar but probably more aggressive ride than the dancehaul... so many options, but I guess back to your original question, for more of a mucking around or tree board, the 152, for more of a piste carving board, and big open faces go for the 157!
I'm on the 157, so I opted not to size down too much, the warpig I ride the 154. Looking at the specs I felt alot of the length of the board is contained in the big rockered nose, therefore it actually feels more like the warpig on piste, and then the nose will just help in the powder!
@@malcolmmoore Hey Malcolm, interested in this board from your great review. I'm 5'7, 195lbs. Thinking this might be a great all mountain carver for pistes, but also for hunting stashes in trees and big resort. I'm pushing the weight limit of the 152, but what do you think? I'm just wanting a board that's a bit snappier but doesn't feel like its gonna go from under me if I ride in a big steep bowl.
@@Seraphial I would go for the 157, it doesn't feel that big on piste as alot of the length is just the nose sticking up in the air. The length will really come into to play in the powder though. Due to the short tapered tail it will still feel nimble enough. If you're desperate for a really short board the 152 will work but personally I'd go for the 157. That's what I'm on and I'm the same weight as you, well a couple of kilos lighter!
@@Seraphial the warpig is a great all mountain board, as is the superpig (although I haven't ridden it) but I think the dancehaul pips both in the powder. So it just depends if you need something for the park as well, they can all do everything, but the dancehaul will suffer on boxes and rails and riding switch, whereas the ride boards dont feel as good in pow..! 🤔
@malcolmmoore Thanks. Probably have to wait until next fall to get a Biru when he comes out with the 150. At 5'7" 140 lbs and size 8 boot, I feel like that will be a better fit than the 154. On a different note, wondering if you have also been on the Borealis Artefact and if so, do you have a preference between that and the Shorty and if so, why? And do you think either or both will be too long for my specs - smallest each has is 158 (Artefact) and 159 (Shorty). Thanks again. Can't wait to try the Biru. Have heard/seen nothing but good things about it!
I really liked your review and how detailed it is. Just thinking about the size... i know this has been asked a 100 times already but i really can‘t decide between 152 and 157. I‘m 186cm tall and weigh about 86kg. I once had the Assassin 163W and i really liked it‘s flotation, hated it on spins, quick 180s tho. Since a while i‘m on the Huck knife 158w and i love it! Its perfect. So i‘m thinking the 157 (also salomons biggest board, same as the assassin) could be a little to big for what i like to ride. On the other hand i‘m in the alps and want it to perform good in pow and steep lines as well. Please help xD
I would go 157, I normally ride a 160 or 159 so thought maybe I should downsize more. But for me the 157 actually feels right. Although they say this is a volume shifted board it doesn't feel like the Ride Warpig or the K2 Party which you can size down alot more on. I feel like alot of this boards length is contained in the nose, which you aren't really aware of on the piste, but will just help you in the pow. Sorry i took a while to get there with the answer, haha, and hope you're somewhere in the alps where the lifts are running!
This board looks awesome. Will have to wait a bit to try this one out thought. Just bought a custom knapton twin + new cartel bindings (I am tall with huge boots and most normal boards dont cut it for me) and cant wait to try it out in some months.
Yeah, slightly more of a carving board and less powder oriented though. I've ridden the optimistic which is the same shape and I really liked it. The Y is the cheaper softer version but should ride pretty similar!
@@malcolmmoore I’ve got a Y but love the look of the dancehaul plus the free ride focus. Not sure if I can justify the spend... 🤣 Would it be too much of a board for an intermediate rider?
143 too short? I'm 175cm / around 70kg, short legs, boots 9 US/ 42 EU, always ride 151 with waist width of 25.0 and like soft park flex. Also like boards that feel small and light weight, and that spin well like the Capita Ultrafear reverse, which I ride in 151. My Capita Scott Stevens 153 feels big and heavy for me. I ordered a Dancehaul in 143 which has a 24.7 waist witdh. Would it be too short or is it totally fine and actually the perfect fit? Reading the comments here had me started to wonder if it might feel too small.
@@emilianpopov9699 Yep, I'll be here for sure! Best bet is to head over to my website to find all the info out and then just drop me an email! www.masterclasssnowboarding.com
Would you recommend this or the warpig, i ride mostly in the pist but also powder, forest and a little park. I enjoy jumping on jumps and naturally generated bumps
I prefer this I think, its close though! This is more fun in the powder for sure, but the warpig is pretty much better everywhere else. The only thing with the warpig is that the topsheet delaminates super super easy...
man, i got a lib tech orca this summer... which pair of bindings would you pair it with ? i prefer a stiffer boots, but a more flex binding. i bought the burton ion and i was looking at the strata. what do u think ? thanks
I've had alot of problems with unions in the past, I love the way they ride but they always fall apart. I filmed a little bit about them actually which I'll put out next week. I'm going to move to cartels this season, the malavitas are awesome too if you want a slightly more flexible binding, I've had them in the past. I just ride burton imperials now, but ions are good too, I've had them before too.
I hope you get to do a lot more reviews like this. Really like the concept of great footage and voice over explanations of the specs and performance.
Thanks, yep, I have a few more boards lined up for this winter, just need to wait for the resort to open up this season!
Honestly starting to become one of my fav snowboard channel keep it up! I esp love those virtual snowboarding videos.
Thanks Jackie! I can't wait for winter so I can make loads of new vids, I've got so many ideas! Stayed tuned... 🙏
Malcolm Moore hi have you tried the never summer shaper twin
@@jjss2395 nah unfortunately not, looks cool though!
Extremely underrated channel. Almost as good as his vids are his replies to viewers questions. Answers are always on point and solid advice.
@@allnight1619 thanks! Yep, I do try to get back to everyone, there sometimes are a few comments that manage to slip through the cracks but I do my best! Thanks for watching 🙏
This is a really good review. I'm a shop guy, with a pretty decent knowledge of the current trends and tech in the industry. You dropped a lot of facts in this vid. You even mentioned the reason why the Orca became so big... that Travis Rice vid with him dropping pillows in Japan.... insane.... After that everyone wanted it... and after that, every company has tried to make their own versions.... I'm about to pick up a Dancehaul myself, so have been looking for reviews on it... You knocked this one out of the park. Thank you for your detailed take on this board. You have a new subscriber.
Thanks Ashley, I appreciate the comment! You'll love the board, I still haven't been able to ride it as much as I would have liked, all the lifts here in France are still shut. The only thing that has changed since I reviewed it is that I'm actually finding it is quite good on rails now too, I've been using it on a DIY rail setup and actually really like it, it just took a little bit of getting used to!
Mine arrived a few days back & I cannot wait to try it out. This amazing review was the main reason for choosing the ‘Dancehaul’. Thank you Malcolm 🕺🏽. Hope the lifts open for you soon🤞.
Great review! Just ordered the 22-23 And a 57 as well. It’s nice to see that you were in a 57 and loved it.
What did you think of the Dancehall?
I ride a 158W assassin and looking at the 22/23 152 and keep both boards. This will be for next season and buying now while discounting is available is always a good idea. I think Salomon will be making a 154 in the dancehall for 23/24 so this could be a better option for my 90kg weight.
Any info from you guys would be awesome. 😎
Thanks in advance
This looks like an amazing board for groomers, charging and powder. Perfect for a 2 board quiver if you have a park oriented board already.
Came her to check your review as you recommended me from Instagram! Looks like a board for me! Thanks Malcolm
Nice video and nice board! Didn't realize the gold top sheet has a glittery look to it. Looks really good! Big ups to your camera person - really helped to make your video look clean. Can't wait to see you rip through the Sarenne on that thing!
Thanks Brian, yeah, definitely looking forward to getting first lifts up and charging the sarenne as fast as possible!
Malcolm this is one of the best board reviews i have seen and i watched alot from probly everyone one youtube, very in depth if you have the time to do some demos i would really like to hear your opinions
Thanks David, I was supposed to be at some of the board tests this spring but they were all cancelled. I'm going to be doing some stuff for whitelines magazine so later in this season I'll have some stuff, for the following season, to test! And before that anything I can get my hands on I'll make sure to review!
Dude...great review. Great skill and style on the hill brother. Your killing it.
Thanks man!
Please, more board reviews! 👌👌👌
I'll have to try and convince some brands to send me some boards out but at the minute I still have to pay for them!
Malcolm Moore I have a idea! You should visit these demo days, where you can pick some boards f.e. Capita Mercury or Lib Tech Travis Pro. Make some reviews and meet people out of the industry. May be a little bit naive, but c‘mon! 🤜🤛🤙🏻🏂
@@thomasgebhard3332 absolutely, I was going to go to one in zermatt but it's been cancelled, but when they start up again I definitely will!
Malcolm Moore Excellent! 👌 Keep my fingers crossed! 🤞
@@thomasgebhard3332 I've just been speaking with Whitelines magazine and they're actually gonna send me some stuff out to try at the end of this winter!
Hi Malcolm!
Nice purchase spectacular Dancehaul!🚀In spring i bought a Lobster Aaron Schwartz, aesthetically it has a shape similar to yours.😊 These latest surfboards they have created are magnificent.
I hope that the Covid situation improves a little for the winter in this bad year, so as to run more peaceful. See you next time Hi Malcolm🍻❄
Nice, yeah I'm hoping next winter will be a good one! 🤞
I was looking at the warpig, that's how I found your channel. Then I stumbled upon the, superpig. As you know, it has the same profile as that, dancehaul. I love the design of that dancehaul. Reminded me a muscle car design.
Unfortunately I've not been able to get out to try the superpig yet . Should be good tho.
Great vid, thanks 🤙
Awesome, yeah the superpig looks great!
Easily one of the best videos
Love these type of videos you should make more like this 👍👍
Thanks! Yeah, hopefully on going to get some more boards this winter to try out!
Thanks for your videos Malcolm! Really happy for you and your new shred machine!
Thanks Suri! 🙏
Its funny because I already own the Lib Tech Orca "last seasons model" which I love and was going to buy the new tech they added to their snowboard this season, but your video popped up when searching for the Lib Tech Orca and after watching your review I decided to buy the Salomon Dancehaul instead. Your review was killer and looking forward to seeing you rip on this board more in your videos!
Awesome man, yeah I cant wait for winter now!
@@malcolmmoore one last thing...I own the Orca as well and use Union Atlas Bindings, do you recommend a specific binding you like for the Dancehaul or will the Atlas be good for both? Tks
@@carmen172 yeah the atlas is a great binding, I've had issues with unions breaking, but they ride well if they dont! If they're working fine theres no need for a different pair of bindings
How can someone dislike this. 10 out of 10 review!
I know, tell me about it! Haha, thanks, appreciate it 🙏
Excellent review and stylish riding man. You're killing it out there and it's great seeing someone have so much fun on the mountain. Was planning on traveling to the Alps this year to snowboard, but with everything the way it is it seems like that may need to wait a bit longer. Stay safe out there and keep shredding
Thanks! Yeah, I think I'll be very quiet teaching lessons this winter, but that will give me lots of time to work on new videos!
Great review, very informative. Great video as always. Keep it up! Cheers!
Thanks Troy! 🙏
Well Malcolm, tomorrow is the day! Dancehaul is going up to Keystone with me! Last week I brought up my Harpoon and the week before, my K2 Manifest Team. Doing all the same piste runs on all 3 boards, so I’ll be able to make comparisons and see how different they all ride.
Nice, I'd be interested to hear what you think of them!
@@malcolmmoore Dancehaul, is so far, my favorite board this season.
Jus got a killer deal on a 23 model, let's go!
MORE REVIEWS!!! Honestly, this was great👍👍👍
More to come!
It’s amazing how well your channel has done the past year. I’ve been coming back to your videos to always brush up and learn new things. Keep it up!
And now I’ve decided to get a Dancehaul 21/22. I’m 5’10” and about 75kg. It seems like the 147 is the recommended size, but I love my aggressive riding and the aggressive carving (trying to learn the eurocarve). Should I size up to the 152 or stay with the 147? How different do you think the maneuverability will be?
Thanks for watching! I would go for the 152, you don't need to size down as much on this board. For this board I ride the 157, whereas for the ride warpig I went down to 154.
Malcom. Thanks for your reviews. Really great to get reviewers perspectives on new gear, especially new decks. After going down the research hole of the Dancehaul and not being able to get one last year I know have the 157 and 152 in plastic starting at me in my garage. I have not found any shop that carries it as a rental to be able t demo it. I am 6’2” (188)cm and. 175lbs (81)kg. Size 10.5US boot. I ride northern MN, mostly hard pack and make a few trips to CO or UT each year. Ride park very little just small features chasing the kids. Still love deep powder in upper bowls. Currently riding the Mercury Capita 161 and will keep it. Let me know if you have a suggestion on the 157 or 152. Appreciate your insight. Cheers.
I had that same problem except with 147/152. I haven’t rode it yet but from other reviews the 152 goes up to a 264mm waists width so you got plenty of room with that
i’d go with the 157 given you normally ride a 161 and want the float in deep powder. i went through the same thing before i bought my 152 and i’m a bit heavier than you but i normally ride a 155 for all mtn and wanted something more playful and park friendly. in short - you’ll be fine on both just pick the one that suits your style of riding!
Well done mate, great review!! love your smooth ridind style..... Take Care
Awesome, thanks Sergio! 🙏
Looks like the Solomon Dancehaul is awesome board for my kind of riding, ie, charging the pistes, I leave the park stuff to the younger riders! The board graphics are great too not too in your face, understated and retro. I decided to move on from my Solomon Craft and recently got hold of the Jones Frontier (158W). Tried it out in the snowdome, way stiffer than the Solomon, can't wait to try in out on the mountains....just hoping this COVID19 situation doesn't stop me from going to the Alps next winter! Would be good if you are able to provide us with some developments regarding this and what the resorts are doing to cope with the pandemic for next season! 👍👍
Yeah definitely going to be a good on mountain board, I may even test it at Hemel Hempstead if I'm able to get back to the UK at all this October! 😂
Regarding this winter, at present I think ski resorts will be relatively normal just with the caveat of compulsory masks on lifts. I feel like the main issue will be the travel out here, depending if quarantines are still in place. Also, many tour operators such as crystal or neilson have dropped a large number of their chalets and hotels, so you may need to book all the aspects of the holiday independently. And hopefully there's going to be lots of snow! 🤞
Very nice review, quality content, will get this board for pow to compliment my capita bsod, thanks
Had to watch this twice because the footage was so clean lol. I don't even need a new board! Also seems like whenever snowboarders switch back to a more traditional Camber, they love it more than anything. Any thoughts on your preferred kind of board (Camber, Rocker, etc)?
Thanks Yawnz! Yeah I've got to say I was loving the feeling of camber here, it's actually been a few years since I've been on a normal cambered board and it just felt great. I'd become accustomed to pushing my knees out wider to help translate my weight across the entire board on the warpig, but this you can just stay centered and the camber does alot of the work for you, plus the bounce out of turns is so rewarding!
Have you tried out a Superpig? What are your thoughts? Having ridden the The Warpig, Superpig, Orca and Dancehall, i would not even put the Orca in the same ballpark as the rest of them, it was mediocre at everything i tried on it, it was ok. All the other boards you have mentioned here are special or excel in some way, but the Orca turned out to be a beacon of overhyped mediocrity. More reviews please, love this format.
I'm sold. Oh I've just bought a Burton Custom😣😅😅
I bought this!!! So stoked for the season
Nice! Sure you'll love it!
fantastically detailed review. following you for sure. Have you ridden/compared to the Gnu Gremlin or Yes The Y. ?
Thanks, no but those are definitely boards I would like to try. From what I understand the gremlin would work pretty similar to this board. The Yes Y is the more beginner friendly version of the optimistic. That I have tried and is a great board but with quite a different feel. It carves amazingly well but it is less playful, and although it is is good in powder i would say the dancehaul has the edge here with the more traditional powder board outline.
@@malcolmmoore I appreciate you. Yes, I hear that The Y. is a softer Optimistic. Not necessarily a "beginners board" by being softer though; more playful for sure. Keep up the great work! I'm digging in to all your content. So much great stuff.
Hey Malcolm. Epic content once again. Shot well with great editing to boot. I would please like to ask your opinion on this board. I am 70kg (155lbs), 176 cm (5 feet 9.3 inches), size 9 US (8 uk). I would classify myself as an intermediate rider. I rarely ride switch due to a knee injury, but I do like to hit the park and do basic rails. I'm mostly a groomer rider through. I don't like a true camber board due to it being too catchy. I'm looking at getting the 147cm. Do you think this would be a good fit for my size and riding style in your proffesional opinion? Thank you and keep up the great content.
What size board do you normally ride? I found you dont need to size down on this board as much as you do for other volume shifted boards for instance I normally ride a 160 in a standard all mountain board, on my ride warpig I rode a 154, whereas on this I have the 157. I felt like alot of the length was contained within the big nose therefore it didn't actually feel all that different on piste. I'm sure the 147 will be fine but you could probably go up to the 152 as well. Unless you are really looking for a super small board I wouldn't size down too much!
Hey Malcolm, I bought the Salomon dancehall board last year and absolutely love it. Ive seen the Amplid dada 2022 version for a great price and saw it was one of your favourites. Do you still rate it as an addition to a quiver or is it very similar to the Dancehall? Love the videos. Keep em coming. Thanks
Dada is softer and more playful for jibbing etc, but still also carves well and can still ride pow. I like them both! But if you're not too fussed about doing ground tricks there's not a whole load of improvement to be had from the dada over the dancehaul!
Thanks mate!
Hey Malc Great review. Just bought the Pro as found one discounted locally. Can I ask whst boots do you use? I have a pair of a well know make but cannot believe how quickly the lace eyes have drilled through the tongue.
Cheers, Niall
Nidecker kitas 🤗
Hi! Have you had any winter/pow riding on the Dancehaul yet?
Great vid, more reviews! I definitely need to jump on that goldie. For the sake of keeping the facts straight, Capita Slush Slasher (flat), Rossi Sushi (camrock) or Yes Optimistic (after the revamp, camrock then camber) were the ones that pushed the directional freeride/powder volume shifted hype long before the Orca.
Yeah true but that didn't fit in with my narrative so much! 😂 But aside from maybe the yes optimistic I dont feel like these are really boards that you'd want to take down big mountain lines, so although they're good in powder they're not really for big mountain free riding. Whereas I feel like this board and the orca would be comfortable charging steep couloirs. I'm just imagining taking the slush slasher down something like that! 😂
Malcolm Moore I haven’t ridden my Slush Slasher yet but I don’t count on that either 😁 The short fats fit perfectly the scenario and riding style you covered in your vid imo 👍
@@DG-xj6zv yeah, I love the volume shifted boards, I used to have such a nightmare finding boards wide enough to properly carve on, and I'm yet to try one that doesn't carve well!
Hello Malcolm! Would bataleon Astro full wrap be Ok for this board? I normally Ride k2 Passport and those bindings were to for it but im wondering if they wont be too stiff. Should I buy new bindings like Rome katana ? Your vids are sick bro!
Hi Malcolm! You have 2 boards that i'm trying to choose between. I mean warpig and dacehaul. What are you thoughts on comparing them? What is the pros/cons on each? I really appreciate your answer. Thanks!
The warpig is a better all rounder board, better in the park, switch, and still really good at carving. The construction they use on the topsheet (topless construction) is terrible and both warpigs I have had began to delaminate badly after about 1 month. One time they replaced the board on warranty the second time they didn't... The dancehaul is better in powder, and whilst the edge hold is probably the same as the warpig, it feels more fun to carve thanks to the camber. It is a little softer than the warpig too.
@@malcolmmoore Thanks for answering!
@@malcolmmoore The edge hold on the Daunchall is not much better? I live in the Midwest with icy hard snow and short runs I was hoping this would have good edge hold.
@@bbolanda1818 it's ok it's not amazing on ice, magnetraction is the best for ice, but I find it annoying in pretty much every other circumstance. Its grabby in wet snow, and doesn't give a smooth feel when carving. So it's a trade off! the dancehaul is primarily a powder board though, so if you're not going to ride much powder it might not be the best option...
@@malcolmmoore What do you think about underbit on like the Yes Typo?
Hi, thanks for review!
I’m choosing between 152 and 157.
I’m 6’ (181cm) and 174 lbs (79kg).
What size you recommended?
If you want it is a pow board for tight trees I would go for the 152, or if you specifically want a really agile board. For most other scenarios I would probably take the 157 though. 👍
@@malcolmmoore 🙏
For banked slalom and spring slashing, maybe for small fun jib
@@KostyaSanSnowboarding 152 probably for your size and weight. I went for the 157 to perform better in powder, but also I'm about 86kgs
@@malcolmmoore thanks!
Bring the 152
@@KostyaSanSnowboarding 👍
This video was amazing, keep up the great work! What size are you riding/ what size boot do you have?
Awesome thanks! 🙏
I'm on the 157, have a US 12 boot, and weigh about 85kgs
@@malcolmmoore Do you know what the weight range is on that board? Also how do you think it would do on hard snow or if you hit a little ice? Thanks in advance.
@@bbolanda1818 check out the spec sheet on the salomon website, but it's a pretty broad window. Unless you're pushing 100kgs you'll be fine on the 157!
@@malcolmmoore would you suggest 152 or 157 for 75kg, 10,5 boot 187cm? coming from 159 lib tech trs and bataleon goliath. Looking to run all - groomers, trees and powder
Thanks for this review. As an old snowboarder that could not practice much because of young kids, I want to come back. What do you think of Burton step-on bindings on the Dancehaul salomon board ? Would be a nice fit ? (Remind, I am old :-) Thanks.
I haven't tried the step ons myself but have taught a few people with them and they've had no issues. If you live somewhere icy having ridden the dancehaul a bit more now it isn't the best in those conditions, but everywhere else it is fine!
@@malcolmmoore What would you recommend over the Dancehaul for those icy conditions, getting back to boarding after having kids, intermediate, not hard charging, on piste?
:O he is so good at snowboarding, he makes it look easy
😉
Nice review! A comparison against the Super Pig if you've ridden one would be awesome 😉
Yeah, unfortunately I haven't ridden the super pig yet! Maybe this season though...
@@malcolmmoore would also love to see this! Great review
I get goosebumps watching this video! My 21/22, 157 Dancehaul is sitting here in my office begging to be ridden. And Wolf Creek and A Basin are open! But I am not about to ruin this beautiful board on all those rocks and tree stumps poking out everywhere right now. Also, what is the song playing in the background? I LOVE it! I want to add it to my snowboard playlist.
Thanks, I can't actually remember what the song is now though I'm afraid! Can't wait to get back on the dancehaul after missing last season due to lockdowns!
@@malcolmmoore Yeah, it's been awhile for me. 6 Seasons! But I am back and ready to go. Got my Epic Pass in the mail just the other day! Breckenridge and Keystone, here I come! I wanted to ask you. I heard that at higher speeds and hard charging, the Dancehaul gets a little loose. That it's more of a fun carving playful board. Would you agree?
@@malcolmmoore Also, I like to have multiple boards in the quiver, what board you suggest that would be a totally different ride experience from the Dancehaul? Or do you just rock the one board?
That sounds cool, I would agree for the dancehaul, but you can still go pretty fast on it!
As for multiple boards yeah I have a few. My new one for this season is the amplid dada.
www.amplid.com/?sPartner=MalcolmM
It's another volume shifted one, I tested it this summer and loved it. I also rode the souly grail and killswitch from amplid too. The souly grail was great but a bit too directional for me, and the killswitch was cool, but not as fun as the dada. I'm always intrigued by new shapes though, the gnu banked country for this season looks cool. I've always wanted to try the yes 420, but I think I would be better off somewhere that gets a bit more powder than Europe! Just get as many boards as you can! The good news is that there's not many bad boards these days so just pick something that you think looks fun!
You should try a Donek.... made to your own specs. You specify the waist, length, side cut radius, layout, extra holes for powder days while maintaining a twin layout across the standard holes, standard camber. I went for 157 length, 309mm waist, 8.7m side cut. Stability is incredible, unreal speed and incredible float. No gimmicks. Put it on an edge - stay on an edge - and the maneuverability shocked me.
Yeah that would be cool to try out actually! I'll have more of a look into them
@@malcolmmoore And you get to choose whatever color and custom graphics you want. I also put the DPS Phantom treatment on the base. Unreal performance... Never have to wax again :). I love your instructional videos. They're the best.
@@wrinkle66 With Donek being custom made are they extremely expensive compared to a board like this or is it doable?
Any long term review on the board yet? Keen to see how it’s gone for you.
With covid keeping resorts shut I still have barely ridden it in afraid! As I had to earn all my turns this winter I was on my splitboard only!
Nice review, thanks a lot! The board looks like lots of fun. For 160-165 lbs would you go for the 147 or the 152? Boot size is 9.5, so thats no problem either way. I am intrigued by the smaller size for more agility on piste and in the trees but the float in powder will be better on the bigger one...
Yeah you've summed it up pretty well yourself there! The bigger will have better float but slightly less agile. To be honest though I would probably lean towards the 152, unless you normally ride a board of about that length anyway, and want something much smaller. But I normally ride a 159 so only sized down 2cms for the 157 and it feels great...
@@malcolmmoore thanks man!
thx for video . 👍 how is it about ice performance ?
Ok, nothing is as good as magnetraction on ice though...
@@malcolmmoore aha you prefer to magne trac. ?
Nah I'm not a fan, I find it a little grabby when conditions are good. For instance on perfect snow it doesn't carve all that smoothly. The mellow magnetraction on some Jones boards is a good compromise, but I just always prefer a traditional side cut!
Hey Malcolm. As usual another great video. I was wondering what you think of this board in comparison to the warpig, which to buy and which is better all around
Basically they're both great but there's a few differences. Most importantly is actually durability, the topsheet on the ride warpig delaminates really easily. It has happened to my board and I've seen it happen to a bunch of other peoples too. Whilst it doesn't affect the ride so much it's pretty annoying. After thinking about that basically the dancehaul has the edge in powder for sure, and whilst it isn't necessarily better at carving I would say it is a little more fun. The warpig is better at riding switch and in the park. However they can both do everything pretty well!
On the strength of your great review I’ve got mine coming today. Christmas come early 😂... just hope COVID does one so I can get out to the alps in the new year to try it out !
Yep, fingers crossed we can still go riding! You'll love the board though 😃
@@malcolmmoore it’s arrived and it’s a right Bobby dazzler! 🏂 thanks for the review and can’t wait to try it out!
@@Mark-pz5xf 😂 Bobby Dazzler!
Hi Malcolm. I’ve just bought this board based on how impressed I was when you dropped this vid back in the summer. Just wondered if you’ve now been out in some pow? If so what was it like? I can only dream right now!
I have ridden it a little, but as the lifts are shut here in france I have to hike everything, therefore I'm mostly on my split board at the moment! But it definitely works and I'm really looking forward to riding it more, but it may have to wait until next winter now the way things are going...
hey great video ! im 80kg with size 9 boot what size would you recommend?
Can't wait for the fresh snow.
I'm getting excited like it's December already! 😂🤦♂️
Hey Malcolm, excellent review! Definitely my fav snowboarding channel, learned a lot from your vids!
I'm now looking to purchase my first snowboard, I'm 5'7 and in the 160-165lbs range, would you go for the 147 or 152? I don't do park much just want to carve a lot mostly as of right now. I'm also torn between this and the Salomon Assassin 156, which one would you recommend more? Thank you!
I would go 152 if you want this board, the assassin is more of an all rounder, the dancehaul is obviously quite directional. But if you're not planning on riding much switch the dancehaul is a pretty fun board!
@@malcolmmoore will put in an order for 152 immediately, appreciate your help!
First vid i watched from you, new sub 😉 Also damn sexy slowmotion on those turns! This board has my interest, which size did you ride?
Awesome thanks, I'm on the 157 here, normally I ride 159 so I didn't size down too much for this. The ride warpig I went alot smaller and got a 154!
Which bindings do you recommend for this board? Just an FYI, I'm a bit of a Union fanboy....hehe
I'm on contact Pros here, but am not a union fanboy, love the way they ride but they really fall apart in my opinion! I don't think you want too stiff of a binding for this board, that way you can ride it loose and surfy. Malavitas would work well, contact Pros like I mentioned, I think the salomon bindings with the shadow fit heelcup would work well too!
Great review! I'm torn between this and Bateleon Party Wave+, do you think 157 Dancehaul will be wide enough for my 47 EU (13-14US) boot size? Toe drags are my nightmare on most boards.
Thank you!
For a volume shifted board the dancehaul isn't the widest. I'm not sure of the stats for the party wave but I think that is wider 🤔
@@malcolmmoore thx for your answer! yes, Party wave+ is wider for sure. I kinda wanna choose Dancehaul 157, but im not sure if it is wide enough for my 47 EU (13-14US) boot size :(
@@malcolmmoore What bindings are you riding with the dancehaul in this video ? Thx
Hi nice video! can you tell me whether I will buy a freeride or a freestyle board?
and where are you living that you have snow at this time
@@vincentbk228 that is the glacier in 2alpes which stays open for the summer, everything shut until winter now though!
Depends if you rather do freestyle or free riding!?
anyone know the name of the song? BTW great board. I would get the 2022 pro if I ever get to see one available. Bought the board because of this review.
Hi Malcolm, best snowboarding channel on youtube! im set on getting a dancehaul but torn between the 147 and 152. Im 178cm 5’10”tall and 81kgs 177 pounds so i fall right in the middle of the recommended range for the 152 and top of the 147. What would you recommend? Looking for it to be playful but wide enough for eurocarves and relatively good float in pow.. thanks!! 🙏
152 for sure, I find you don't need to size this board down all that much!
Perfect, thanks mate! I have to say ive watched alot of your tutorials and made notes on them. My riding this season has progressed like never before thanks to you. The way you break it down technically is perfect for how i learn. Much love from Australia 🙏
What's your stance angles on this video? Look +/+ by how you're riding but not sure. also, have you ridden the First Call? From what i can tell it seems Salomon tweaked it a bit and renamed it to Danchaul (love the new graphics on the dancehaul tho).
I'm +18 -12. I have ridden the first call and it's basically the sick stick but with slightly cheaper base and construction. The dancehaul is quite different and was actually taken from the Max Buri pro model. I would say the first call feels more like a traditional pow board whereas this is definitely a bit more nimble and has that volume shifted feel to it!
Do you think people will be able to go ski in France at Christmas
I'm pretty sure the resorts will be open, it just depends if there's any quarantine measures imposed when arriving back in your home country!
Awesome review man! Just picked up this board based off your review. I'm 5'10 160 lbs with a 10" boot size. I was recommend to get the 152 because I was told it would handle speed much better. Was wondering what your take is, was really hoping to get away with the 147 for that more playful feel and quick turn initiation. Would i really be giving up good handling at speed if i sized down? Thanks for the great review 🤙🏻
I think the 152 is a good shout. It feels smaller than that anyway as alot of the length is in the big nose, which you'll then appreciate in the pow!
@@malcolmmoore awesome, appreciate the reply man. Cheers 👍🏻
This is awesome! Thank you for this!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Hi great review, do you recommend it for icy conditions? How's the edge hold?
It's not as good as magnetraction edges or anything like that, the sidecut is just a standard sidecut. However the camber does a good job of applying pressure along the whole edge. It's not bad at all but if you're on the east coast or ride somewhere with loads of ice it might not be the best!
@@malcolmmoore thanks a lot!
@@malcolmmoore I had the same question. Thank you.
@@malcolmmoore I just wanted to follow up and see if you think this or the Warpig would be better on the Ice Coast. I imagine this, because it is camber. But in some of your previous videos, you handled mixed (icy) condition on your Warpig. Thanks for all the great content!
Hey mate, sick video!!
I’m us 8 boots and 1,68 height and about 84kgs I just got the 152.
Do you think 152 is the better option over the 147? Cheers
Yes I do!
That was some sexy carving, sir. Really enjoyed this review. Also, you're riding style is 🔥
Awesome, thanks! 🙏
If it becomes your main board I will miss the seeing other warpig board, the base of it left a pretty colorful reflective glow on the snow during turns. Originally thought that was some good post processing on the video until I saw it was the board :D
Haha yep, I love how the warpig does that, I'll still be using it for sure though, especially as it is much better riding switch and in the park!
Hey, thanks for that awsome review for both this and the WarPig... I'm basicaly sold on the Superpig, but still wondering if this or the Warpig/Superpig rides/carves better switch? I have a nice high-performance Twin that is amazing funt to carve but its just 263waist and I can boot it out all 4 ways (size 10 or 10.5)
The superpig will hands down be he best for carving, especially switch!
Thanks :) already looking at it... Kind of packing my van for after Christmas, looking for any place to go riding... Packing my kites as well #bringyourownlift
@@fireblade1986 yeah great idea, where abouts do you think you'll be going?
@@malcolmmoore have to see how border and quarantine regulations will be after Christmas, but as of right now it looks like Switzerland although the most known places for snowkiteing are in France... How are things developing down where you are?
Awesome video man! What your preferred stance angles on a board like this that's directional and volume shifted?
I generally stick the same all the time now. +18 -12. It just seems to work for me in all scenarios, and its not too pushed out that riding switch feels too different.
@@malcolmmoore What's your height?
@@bbolanda1818 6"1
@@malcolmmoore Thank you sir.
will you be swapping from your warpig to the salomon board ? (i am just on edge to buy the new war pig, i mostly ride pistes and sometimes just off piste and i would say im just an intermediate rider)
Yeah, I still have the warpig but I think I'll mostly use the salomon this year. Apart from riding park I guess. I had issues with the warpig delaminating which wound me up a bit in the end!
Hey Malcom ! thanks for another great review...
So, what would you say to someone thinking of buying either the Dancehaul or the Orca (price diff. apart...) ??
Also, what would size would you recommend for the dancehaul for a 6' / 200lbs / 11 shoe size ? Would have loved an in between 152 & 157 option.......
Thanks a lot in advance and happy winter to everyone !!
Peace from Switzerland !!
I haven't actually ridden the orca so I cant say for certain but I reckon the only area in which the orca wins is on ice due to the magnetraction... I would say go for the 157, that's what I'm on and you're a little bigger than me. If you really want something for riding tight trees the 152 will work, but seeing as you're in Switzerland I reckon you don't spend too much time in the trees, unless we get a low snow line!
@@malcolmmoore Merci ! Hope to see you over the FR side at some point!! 🤙🏼
@@RB64190 hit me up if you ever come over this way, I might have to get to swiss if our resorts don't open soon though!😂
@@malcolmmoore Fingers crossed for you and all my mates in FR. I had my first session of the season this weekend ;)
@@RB64190 so jealous!
Wondering how you feel about riding the contact pro bindings? They are supposed to be quite soft right? But you like them for more aggressive carving etc?
Yeah aside from my gripe I the review which you've now seen I love them. For me board feel is really important and they have great board feel. They're not that stiff no but I prefer to have a bit of flex and if you use your ankles well and have reasonably stiff boots then it's not an issue!
Just bought one. I’ve gone the 52. Any suggestions for bindings?
I'm on burton cartels now, they're a pretty standard choice!
Malcolm: I have just discovered your Ride Warpig has a rocker-flat-rocket profile with a medium flex. It speaks well for your techniques to grip on hard pack! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yeah, it still works, but I'm definitely enjoying having camber again now!
Malcolm, I haven't been seeing the Dancehall in your newer videos. Are you still riding it or have you moved on?
Hey, I've still got it however I'm barely able to ride at the moment. The lifts here in France are staying closed this season meaning that I have to hike every run I do. That means I'm either on my split board, or I have been using more of a twin board for my tutorial vids. I can't wait to get back on it though, but it might need to wait until next season now, gutted!
He seems to have moved onto the ampliid dada
Hey Malcolm, I’m debating between the 52 Dancehaul and the evo exclusive Dancehaul Pro. I understand the pro is about 20% stiffer. Based on your experience with the regular Dancehaul and having the “perfect flex”, do you anticipate the moderate increase in stiffness to have significant effect on the edge hold, carving, general playfulness, etc?
The added stiffness will improve it at high speeds and when charging through choppy terrain. It will probably have better edge hold too, but it will lose some of the powder butter ability and general playfulness! If you charge fast alot I would go for the stiffer one, if you mess around I bit more I would go for the regular one!
@@malcolmmoore thanks dude! I appreciate the quick response and your help!
Do you have any experience with the K2 Simple Pleasures? That is my current do everything board, since I do not ride park, other than hitting small to medium jumps.
I love my Simple Pleasures on powder days and it does good carving on groomers, but I feel like I want a board with a bit more bite and better carving on groomed runs. Do you think the Dancehall is enough of an upgrade over my K2 on piste to make it worth buy a secons board in the same category?
Or do you have a recommendation for a purely on piste carving board? My boots are size 11 and I get a bit of toe/heal drag on my Simple Pleasures when the snow is soft. Thanks for any input you my give.
Would you review the party wave +?? 🙏🙏
Might be getting a bataleon this season, honestly though, I'm not sold on triple base at the moment...
Hey Malc, what boots & bindings do you use & how's the dancehaul going ? cheers
Hey, I'm on burton imperials which I get every season. Also union contact Pros which ride great but literally fall apart. Probably gonna get some burton cartels when I have some cash. Haven't had a chance to ride the dancehaul much more yet as the resorts here in france are still shut due to the virus!
Hey dude. Sick review. How would it fair through tight tree runs?
Very well, the short tail makes it really easy to turn on a dime!
Had my first day on it yesterday thanks to you man. That board just wants to go! Laid trenches all day! Keep up the great work mate
@@Jamesyshreds epic! I'm jealous you're able to get riding at the minute, everything is still shutdown over here!
Aww buddy. I can't even imagine. I'm in Canada at the moment and it's basically lock down except for the ski hills. Keeping our fingers crossed every day they stay open. Hope they open for you dude. Happy New Year
Thanks for the review. Will this become your new daily drive?
I think I'll use it quite alot, but I'll probably keep the warpig for teaching, as it is so much better switch! But in reality, when I'm riding for myself, I don't ride switch all that much, so that's why I've been leaning towards something a bit more directional!
@@malcolmmoore I used the same logic and bought the Endevour Archetype. Something with a bit more width might be better in the future for me, size 11 (US) boots are pushing it for my board. So I'm very interested in this Salomon.
@@AndrewJonathanHill I'm thinking about maybe getting a super soft park board just to try something completely different - now I have this in my arsenal, maybe next season though, can't keep buying boards! 😂
@@xelasolo8671 haven't ridden the mercury but it looks like a decent board!
Great review! I'm about 94 kg with an eu 44.5 boot. Do you think the 157 will still float relatively well? Thanks.
Yeah it'll be fine for you!
Great! Thanks for the help
Hi Malcolm, looking to pick this board up in summer sales online. How much shorter do you ride this board. I'm 176cm, should I pick 152 or 157. Thnx
Bought the new DOA but i think i will switch to this... i never do park and love carving and powder... at 5ft5 and 160 pound..what size you board is a good fit for me?
Either the 152 or the smaller one, 147 I think, will work. If you normally ride a board around 155 or so go for the 152, but if you normally ride like a 150 go for the 147. Basically size down 2 or 3 cms
Hey Malcolm,
Trying to deicde between a 157 and a 152 to compliment my 158W Burton Custom. I'm 6'1 and 175lbs with a 12 boot size. I ride pretty aggressively and log around 50 days in Colorado. What size do you think would be the best? Keep up the good work.
Hey Liam,
You are right in the middle but I would probably lean towards the 157, but if you want a more nimble tree board you could definitely drop to the 152. With covid keeping resorts shut here last season I still haven't really ridden this board much. I'm actually moving into the amplid dada for this season, you can see that here, (this is an Affiliate link btw but it is a decent Board!)
www.amplid.com/?sPartner=MalcolmM
However this board is much more similar to something like the ride warpig. I've been liking the look of the gnu banked country this season too which although not a volume shifted board, looks to kind of offer a similar but probably more aggressive ride than the dancehaul... so many options, but I guess back to your original question, for more of a mucking around or tree board, the 152, for more of a piste carving board, and big open faces go for the 157!
Malcolm Moore Thanks legend, I think I’m probably going to go with the 57 cuz everyone i ride with rides fast and hard. you’re the man.
Sounds like you just described the perfect replacement for my Atomic Alibi Renu
Let me know if you get it! 👌
Hey Malc, great vid, what size were you on? Cheers
I'm on the 157, so I opted not to size down too much, the warpig I ride the 154. Looking at the specs I felt alot of the length of the board is contained in the big rockered nose, therefore it actually feels more like the warpig on piste, and then the nose will just help in the powder!
@@malcolmmoore Hey Malcolm, interested in this board from your great review. I'm 5'7, 195lbs. Thinking this might be a great all mountain carver for pistes, but also for hunting stashes in trees and big resort. I'm pushing the weight limit of the 152, but what do you think? I'm just wanting a board that's a bit snappier but doesn't feel like its gonna go from under me if I ride in a big steep bowl.
@@Seraphial I would go for the 157, it doesn't feel that big on piste as alot of the length is just the nose sticking up in the air. The length will really come into to play in the powder though. Due to the short tapered tail it will still feel nimble enough. If you're desperate for a really short board the 152 will work but personally I'd go for the 157. That's what I'm on and I'm the same weight as you, well a couple of kilos lighter!
@@malcolmmoore Awesome, thanks man. For what I'm looking for, Dancehaul vs Warpig vs Superpig? Thoughts?
@@Seraphial the warpig is a great all mountain board, as is the superpig (although I haven't ridden it) but I think the dancehaul pips both in the powder. So it just depends if you need something for the park as well, they can all do everything, but the dancehaul will suffer on boxes and rails and riding switch, whereas the ride boards dont feel as good in pow..! 🤔
Notice you've ridden a Biru. Which do prefer having ridden both now, Dancehaul or Biru and why? Thanks
BIRUUU 🙌🙌 cruisey carvey perfect
@malcolmmoore Thanks. Probably have to wait until next fall to get a Biru when he comes out with the 150. At 5'7" 140 lbs and size 8 boot, I feel like that will be a better fit than the 154.
On a different note, wondering if you have also been on the Borealis Artefact and if so, do you have a preference between that and the Shorty and if so, why? And do you think either or both will be too long for my specs - smallest each has is 158 (Artefact) and 159 (Shorty).
Thanks again. Can't wait to try the Biru. Have heard/seen nothing but good things about it!
I really liked your review and how detailed it is. Just thinking about the size...
i know this has been asked a 100 times already but i really can‘t decide between 152 and 157. I‘m 186cm tall and weigh about 86kg. I once had the Assassin 163W and i really liked it‘s flotation, hated it on spins, quick 180s tho. Since a while i‘m on the Huck knife 158w and i love it! Its perfect. So i‘m thinking the 157 (also salomons biggest board, same as the assassin) could be a little to big for what i like to ride. On the other hand i‘m in the alps and want it to perform good in pow and steep lines as well. Please help xD
I would go 157, I normally ride a 160 or 159 so thought maybe I should downsize more. But for me the 157 actually feels right. Although they say this is a volume shifted board it doesn't feel like the Ride Warpig or the K2 Party which you can size down alot more on. I feel like alot of this boards length is contained in the nose, which you aren't really aware of on the piste, but will just help you in the pow. Sorry i took a while to get there with the answer, haha, and hope you're somewhere in the alps where the lifts are running!
@@malcolmmoore no problem.
Thanks for the answer!
So i made the right choice i ordered the 157.
Yeah lifts are running here!🎉
Great video! ✨
Thanks Emily!
Great review.
Thanks! sorry that i missed this comment first time around!
This board looks awesome. Will have to wait a bit to try this one out thought. Just bought a custom knapton twin + new cartel bindings (I am tall with huge boots and most normal boards dont cut it for me) and cant wait to try it out in some months.
Nice that will be awesome to ride! I can't wait for winter either!
Would you think the Y by yes is a similar style of board?
Yeah, slightly more of a carving board and less powder oriented though. I've ridden the optimistic which is the same shape and I really liked it. The Y is the cheaper softer version but should ride pretty similar!
@@malcolmmoore I’ve got a Y but love the look of the dancehaul plus the free ride focus. Not sure if I can justify the spend... 🤣
Would it be too much of a board for an intermediate rider?
143 too short? I'm 175cm / around 70kg, short legs, boots 9 US/ 42 EU, always ride 151 with waist width of 25.0 and like soft park flex. Also like boards that feel small and light weight, and that spin well like the Capita Ultrafear reverse, which I ride in 151. My Capita Scott Stevens 153 feels big and heavy for me. I ordered a Dancehaul in 143 which has a 24.7 waist witdh. Would it be too short or is it totally fine and actually the perfect fit? Reading the comments here had me started to wonder if it might feel too small.
Awesome review
Thanks, I appreciate the comment! 🙏
@@malcolmmoore are you spending the upcoming winter in Alpe d'Huez? I'd really love to book a lesson in freestyle with you!
@@emilianpopov9699 Yep, I'll be here for sure! Best bet is to head over to my website to find all the info out and then just drop me an email! www.masterclasssnowboarding.com
Cheers
Would you recommend this or the warpig, i ride mostly in the pist but also powder, forest and a little park. I enjoy jumping on jumps and naturally generated bumps
I prefer this I think, its close though! This is more fun in the powder for sure, but the warpig is pretty much better everywhere else. The only thing with the warpig is that the topsheet delaminates super super easy...
Will the 157 handle a size 12 boot? Hard for me to decide between the dancehaul and the Bataleon party wave plus.
Probably not for full on layed out carves, but yeah it's a similar flexing board, pretty flexy!
Have you tried comparing this to the superpig?
Nah unfortunately not, I imagine the superpig will feel a fair bit more aggressive, for powder i would probably still pick this though...
man, i got a lib tech orca this summer... which pair of bindings would you pair it with ? i prefer a stiffer boots, but a more flex binding. i bought the burton ion and i was looking at the strata. what do u think ? thanks
I've had alot of problems with unions in the past, I love the way they ride but they always fall apart. I filmed a little bit about them actually which I'll put out next week. I'm going to move to cartels this season, the malavitas are awesome too if you want a slightly more flexible binding, I've had them in the past. I just ride burton imperials now, but ions are good too, I've had them before too.