I'd love to know if you've used other papers and had different result, or if you have a definitive answer to what 'Greaseproof' paper actually means in the UK these days!!
thanks for making this i know some people thinks this aint usefull but i was so confused when buying paper and luckily i found this, im not forking over £20 or more on some rediculious branded or generic artist crap, i was so shocked at the prices of a simple wet pallete, so thanks for this you have saved me tons if i had just gone for the artist BS which essentialy is the same thing just pruced up to look clean and proffesional, the other thing i like to do is use clingfilm with a spray bottle, as the water has no where to go but stay on the surface of the pallete, but this is by far the best way i have had a pallete tucked away with paint for nearly 5 months now and its still wet, just not had the time to use that paint for the model im working on
Great video! I just started Warhammer a couple of weeks ago and did my first priming yesterday. I now realise why people say get a wet palette, knew there were DIY options and found this. As I'm in the UK it hit the spot. Off to Robert Dyas later this morning! I've subscribed, hope the channel hasn't died as I see there's no recent content. Stay cool!
In the US, Kansas here. I have 'wax paper' already at home. It seemed like it would be waterproof and it does sort of act that way if you put it straight onto the wet palette. But if I crumple it into a ball and run it under the faucet while crumpling, it turns into parchment paper🙂
There's definitely some contradiction between UK and US terms for baking parchment / paper and wax paper. I've realised that all that really matters is that the paper does the job you expect, consistently, and hopefully it's then useful! Thanks for the comment 👍
Brilliant video. Thank you. Just bought 100 baking parchment squares from Lakeland in the UK for £4.99. They are 7” (18cm) squares. Thought that would give me a decent setup over one of those cellulose sponge cloths. Just need to find a suitable container now.
I bought the Army Painter one last year, as you can imagine it’s rarely been used. It came with some ‘paper’ in which had the consistency of toilet paper in schools in the UK in the 80s. Works great though when I did use it. Agree with the 48-72 days window for paints to be at their best!
I was recommended "Reynolds" brand parchment paper for a wet palette, which I've just received from Amazon, but doesn't look promising either no moisture soaks through it, and it has that same waxy feel like all these other baking type papers. I'm also not convinced that any of your tests were really that "successful" either, as it's possible the paint was staying damp because it was sealed in a box with a load of moisture, and not because of moisture soaking through the paper. I've also seen tracing paper suggested, which I haven't got around to trying myself but this sounds more viable as I don't remember this stuff having the waxy/silicon coating as a kid. There's a suggestion if you want to do a follow up video...!
Not heard of thr reynolds paper before. There's definitely an element of condensation in the sealed box, but I can also see some definite signs of very small amounts of water coming up through the parchment (before closing the lid for the night). I think with all things like this it's not really a 'does' or 'doesn't' work, but that different paper produces different results- it's more a case of making sure the same paper works the same consistently and then at least you can be reasonably sure of the results you'll get. It's when it's inconsistent that it's really annoying so I stick with the same paper now
Some on here have found that crumpling a waxy paper into a ball as the run it under a tap creates enough “cracks” in the coating to let it work as a regular parchment :)
Hello there! Just wanted to check in. Are you doing okay? Your videos on Kings of War really inspired me to jump into that game system. We haven’t seen anything from you in about 4 months. I hope you are well, and perhaps just find yourself too busy to produce content right now. No matter what, I want you to know that you are missed!
Thanks dude! Yes, totally fine. The reason for a lack of videos is that I've been really busy at work but also doing a slow build KoW campaign at a local club I joined has had me doing LOADS of KoW hobby! Got my first tournament at a new local store in a couple of weeks too! I've built and painted a lord on frostfang, a regiment of huscarls (inc lots of converted models), a Snow Queen, more snow foxes and trolls and a Cavern Dweller, also I've converted a giant for Hrimm (posted a pic on the Kings of War Northern Alliance FB page) and started some ice elementals. I'll have painting videos for most of this, hopefully in a month or so!
Very useful video, a DIY wet palette should be an option, the only problem would be finding the right stuff, cellulose (not synthetics) sponges could be more indicate than paper for the base
Thank you for the detailed review. You answered my questions! Could you please tell me what brushes you use? I really enjoyed you showing actual painting on the model. Thank you so much! I am subscribed and hope to learn more from you.
Hi, thanks. I use 'Major brushes', some ok cheap synthetic brushes available in the UK (red handles) and Rosemary & Co series 33 or Windsor and Newton series 7 sable for careful work. I can't remember exactly which of those is in this video but it'll be one of those!
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures Thank you so much for replying! I will check them out! The ones I am using do not hold their tip and I struggle to do detail at the eyes and other tiny details such as the dots you added to the head on the mini.
Hi, it's a mistake to clip the tub totally airtight. if you do that, two bad things will happen: firstly the acrylic binder and pigment which comprise the paint will start to separate and secondly, after several days, mildew can develop. So always leave it open a tiny bit.
Thanks for the comment, good info 👍. Is there any proper evidence that allowing air in will stop the binder separation? I've found some paints separate really easily on a wet pallete even when continuously exposed to the air. I have though noticed that clipping it shut does speed up mildew risk- in warm weather in particular. I've concluded that I wouldn't want to lick the brush after using a wet pallete for more than a few days either way!!
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures Hey. I'm actually an acrylic landscape painter, but I think the same rules apply (except that the tube paint is a tad thicker than Citadel-type paints). It's just from lots of trial and error. I always found my paints would break down after a couple of days, till I tried the lid-slightly-open trick, which cured it! What you are doing with the stay wet palette is making a little micro-climate. If the atmosphere is overly moist and contained, the mould spores just love it. So a tiny gap just shifts things out of their favour a bit. Another thing I do, is have a dispersion water spray bottle handy to re-wet the palette now and then when it is open, but that may not be needed with modelling paints. By the way, thank you for doing a detailed analysis on the paper sorts. I recently moved to Germany, so I'm going through the process of trying to find a suitable palette paper all over again. Nightmare!
I find that the baking paper tends to become damaged after a short time of actual working with it, and it sort of gets a bit bumpy with a fine amount of the paper breaking apart and mixing with the paint.
I'd love to know if you've used other papers and had different result, or if you have a definitive answer to what 'Greaseproof' paper actually means in the UK these days!!
thanks for making this i know some people thinks this aint usefull but i was so confused when buying paper and luckily i found this, im not forking over £20 or more on some rediculious branded or generic artist crap, i was so shocked at the prices of a simple wet pallete, so thanks for this you have saved me tons if i had just gone for the artist BS which essentialy is the same thing just pruced up to look clean and proffesional, the other thing i like to do is use clingfilm with a spray bottle, as the water has no where to go but stay on the surface of the pallete, but this is by far the best way i have had a pallete tucked away with paint for nearly 5 months now and its still wet, just not had the time to use that paint for the model im working on
Great video! I just started Warhammer a couple of weeks ago and did my first priming yesterday. I now realise why people say get a wet palette, knew there were DIY options and found this. As I'm in the UK it hit the spot. Off to Robert Dyas later this morning!
I've subscribed, hope the channel hasn't died as I see there's no recent content. Stay cool!
Thanks for the comment! Ive got more videos planned, just been busy with work (and also playing and painting Kings of War!)
In the US, Kansas here. I have 'wax paper' already at home. It seemed like it would be waterproof and it does sort of act that way if you put it straight onto the wet palette. But if I crumple it into a ball and run it under the faucet while crumpling, it turns into parchment paper🙂
There's definitely some contradiction between UK and US terms for baking parchment / paper and wax paper. I've realised that all that really matters is that the paper does the job you expect, consistently, and hopefully it's then useful! Thanks for the comment 👍
Just getting into warhammer and this video is brilliant, thank you so much
Brilliant video. Thank you.
Just bought 100 baking parchment squares from Lakeland in the UK for £4.99. They are 7” (18cm) squares. Thought that would give me a decent setup over one of those cellulose sponge cloths. Just need to find a suitable container now.
I bought the Army Painter one last year, as you can imagine it’s rarely been used. It came with some ‘paper’ in which had the consistency of toilet paper in schools in the UK in the 80s. Works great though when I did use it. Agree with the 48-72 days window for paints to be at their best!
Cool! Oh yeh that school toilet paper was like a thinned down version of tracing paper!!
How well did the lid seal? Did the paint dry or did it get wetter after a few days?
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures I only used it for a couple of days but it worked great and the paints were as good as when I started.
Useful, I was thinking of buying that. I remember UK schools in the 60s with memories of pointless toilet paper. I see things didn't improve!
Gosh, I was looking forward to more space crusade videos. I've enjoyed the ones you've painted up so far
Thanks for the comment... I do plan to finish the set and do videos... it's amazing how time has flown!
Thank you very much :) So I sstay with my normal baking paper :) Grüße aus Deutschland
I was recommended "Reynolds" brand parchment paper for a wet palette, which I've just received from Amazon, but doesn't look promising either no moisture soaks through it, and it has that same waxy feel like all these other baking type papers.
I'm also not convinced that any of your tests were really that "successful" either, as it's possible the paint was staying damp because it was sealed in a box with a load of moisture, and not because of moisture soaking through the paper.
I've also seen tracing paper suggested, which I haven't got around to trying myself but this sounds more viable as I don't remember this stuff having the waxy/silicon coating as a kid. There's a suggestion if you want to do a follow up video...!
Not heard of thr reynolds paper before. There's definitely an element of condensation in the sealed box, but I can also see some definite signs of very small amounts of water coming up through the parchment (before closing the lid for the night). I think with all things like this it's not really a 'does' or 'doesn't' work, but that different paper produces different results- it's more a case of making sure the same paper works the same consistently and then at least you can be reasonably sure of the results you'll get. It's when it's inconsistent that it's really annoying so I stick with the same paper now
Some on here have found that crumpling a waxy paper into a ball as the run it under a tap creates enough “cracks” in the coating to let it work as a regular parchment :)
Hello there! Just wanted to check in. Are you doing okay? Your videos on Kings of War really inspired me to jump into that game system. We haven’t seen anything from you in about 4 months. I hope you are well, and perhaps just find yourself too busy to produce content right now. No matter what, I want you to know that you are missed!
Thanks dude! Yes, totally fine. The reason for a lack of videos is that I've been really busy at work but also doing a slow build KoW campaign at a local club I joined has had me doing LOADS of KoW hobby! Got my first tournament at a new local store in a couple of weeks too! I've built and painted a lord on frostfang, a regiment of huscarls (inc lots of converted models), a Snow Queen, more snow foxes and trolls and a Cavern Dweller, also I've converted a giant for Hrimm (posted a pic on the Kings of War Northern Alliance FB page) and started some ice elementals. I'll have painting videos for most of this, hopefully in a month or so!
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures looked around your channel - is it just me or is the KOW video gone?
I haven't removed and videos 🙂 got a few more KoW and Space Crusade video footage done, just havent had time to edit and finish them yet
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Very useful video, a DIY wet palette should be an option, the only problem would be finding the right stuff, cellulose (not synthetics) sponges could be more indicate than paper for the base
Thank you for the detailed review. You answered my questions!
Could you please tell me what brushes you use?
I really enjoyed you showing actual painting on the model.
Thank you so much! I am subscribed and hope to learn more from you.
Hi, thanks. I use 'Major brushes', some ok cheap synthetic brushes available in the UK (red handles) and Rosemary & Co series 33 or Windsor and Newton series 7 sable for careful work. I can't remember exactly which of those is in this video but it'll be one of those!
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures Thank you so much for replying!
I will check them out!
The ones I am using do not hold their tip and I struggle to do detail at the eyes and other tiny details such as the dots you added to the head on the mini.
I've only recently discovered your channel, great work! Any upcoming content to tease?
Nothing immediate due to having a lot of work on, but I do have some more Space Crusade and Kings of War painting footage filmed already 👍
Those eyes! Holy crud… they look AMAZING!
Thanks man. These guys have got pretty big heads / eyes which really helps!
Agreed! Stellar!!!
Any chance you might do a few videos on the focus of details, such as faces or armor and the like?
Hi, it's a mistake to clip the tub totally airtight. if you do that, two bad things will happen: firstly the acrylic binder and pigment which comprise the paint will start to separate and secondly, after several days, mildew can develop. So always leave it open a tiny bit.
Thanks for the comment, good info 👍. Is there any proper evidence that allowing air in will stop the binder separation? I've found some paints separate really easily on a wet pallete even when continuously exposed to the air. I have though noticed that clipping it shut does speed up mildew risk- in warm weather in particular. I've concluded that I wouldn't want to lick the brush after using a wet pallete for more than a few days either way!!
@@NoProcrastinationMiniatures Hey. I'm actually an acrylic landscape painter, but I think the same rules apply (except that the tube paint is a tad thicker than Citadel-type paints). It's just from lots of trial and error. I always found my paints would break down after a couple of days, till I tried the lid-slightly-open trick, which cured it!
What you are doing with the stay wet palette is making a little micro-climate. If the atmosphere is overly moist and contained, the mould spores just love it. So a tiny gap just shifts things out of their favour a bit.
Another thing I do, is have a dispersion water spray bottle handy to re-wet the palette now and then when it is open, but that may not be needed with modelling paints.
By the way, thank you for doing a detailed analysis on the paper sorts. I recently moved to Germany, so I'm going through the process of trying to find a suitable palette paper all over again. Nightmare!
I use Distilled Water - to prevent mildew...never tap water. Learned the hard way....
I find that the baking paper tends to become damaged after a short time of actual working with it, and it sort of gets a bit bumpy with a fine amount of the paper breaking apart and mixing with the paint.
Great video, thanks!
trying the tesco one this weekend, but expect it to work the same as the ones in this vid
Let me know if you notice anything different 👍
my first time using a wet palette but the tesco one appeared to work same as the ones in your vid
Meant to ask you about this at New Year’s
600th sub 💪
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Stop procrastinating and upload a new video
Pallette was wayyyy too saturated.
The felt needs a lot of water for it to work. A sponge would've worked better with less water
He talks so much nonsense instead of the actual thing
Try tiktok if you just want a 30 second overview 👍