As someone who made one for "cheaper", I am glad I bought one of these last year. It works better than the home made and is easier to maintain. Your review last was the final nail in my purchase decision.
I've also had my Army Painter Wet Palette for about a year now and have had no complaints. No mold or smell issues either and I haven't put any copper bits in mine. I have recently gotten the Redgrass Games Studio XL to use as my primary. I'll keep my Army Painter one to use on smaller projects and I do recommend it for those looking to just pick one up. They are readily available at your LGS which is great.
I made my own,then bought one of these,was sat for 5months,left wet with paint in.the hydrofoam was stiff and shrunk,there was no mould at all,no smell and the foam rehydrated perfectly.cant recommend it enough.
If it was completely air tight I would think that would be bad for the paint. As the water evaporates some of it needs to leave or else it would just over saturate the paint making it to thin. I may be completely wrong but it made sense to me.
I got my first stay wet palette 25+ years ago. It was the Daler Rowney Stay Wet palette (for painters) which is still available today. Back then it used tracing paper to put your paint on, and blotting paper to go underneath and hold the water. It worked well. It was considerably bigger than the one you reviewed here, but was much more basic. I like the one you showed for having the brush tray, and the new fancy water pad 😊 I may see if Santa will bring me one 🤞 😂
Hi :) The copper in the palette… Copper and it’s alloys - brass and such - are actively, EXTREMELY ANTI bacterial. That’s why copper pipes are used for water - in ancient times it was found that water vessels made of copper NEVER went rank. The green patination of copper rooves etc., is copper ore left as the surface once weathering has happened. In recent times, hospitals in the US have made fresh use of this old knowledge and retro fitted door push panels and light switches in brass, in intensive care wards and found a huge decrease in cross infection. During the big fright period, that item was taken out of the wiki entry for “anti-bacterial properties of copper”. The effect it has is based in ionisation and dehydration at the cell level. The SCENT of copper on our hands after touching it is copper molecules, those particles stay, spread around and literally shrivel and kill any and every cell form that they come into contact with. During the big panic, I used a bit of brass plate as my hand sanitiser, as it goes on working, unlike any applied liquid! The copper won’t corrode very well in the palette, as it’s largely an anaerobic environment in there, where the coins are, so you won’t see the result of oxidation - verdigris - but be assured, that same anaerobic environment would absolutely STINK by now - and refresh itself very quickly after any cleaning - without the coins destroying the anaerobic bacteria and fungal cells that are otherwise happily breeding in there! Rub a coin over the sponge when you change paper, spread the goodness around :)
The reason why Id like one of these is because I have tried so many parchment papers and im not getting the effect that other people are. However ! Even though my paper does not soak up it still keeps my paint wet much longer then on a dry regular pallet. Plus there is a lid for it so if I needed I could put that on or fridge it. Its great that they make replaceable paper to.
I know this is a bit late but something you could do is buy the mastersons and then buy the refill packs for this or the redgrass ones. Kind of best of both worlds if you are really trying to penny pinch or already have a mastersons. I have been doing this for quite sometime. I wet ahead and bought this one later down the road when i wanted to have more than one wet palette on hand when friends come over to paint.
I got one last year as a present. I liked everything but the paper. I was getting tiny fibers in my paint. So I switched to parchment paper and everything works great.
Same. I buy the parchment paper in the box, with each piece folded into quarters. I carefully tear a quarter, and then trim it to fit in my wet pallet. Easy and inexpensive (two words you don't hear often in this hobby.
I have had the problem with fibres in the paint.For me the ap palette is too small.I am currently testing different types of palettes on my channel.I am now trying the Green stuff world xl.The best thus far is homemade from a Ferrero Rocher box and spontex sponge with cheap baking paper.
Had previously bought a Masters, but between the extra effort of boiling the paper, the fact that it seemed to dry out too easily even when closed, and it being a little too large, I just bought an Army Painter. While I haven't used it yet, I'm already happy I got it just for the smaller size as it is a better fit for my workspace. Looking forward to testing it out soon.
I had bought a Masters as well. I don't like the paper and considering it is meant to be usable for heavy body acrylics it probably the reason. I gave in and bought the Army Painter palette a couple months ago.
What type of parchment paper do you buy ? Im in Canada I have tried like 6 diffrent types and I dont get the effect that these wet pallets get. They still keep paints wet longer but not as good as these. Also need pins to pin the paper or it will curle up.
Well I use Reynolds brand standard parchment paper, not sure if you can get that in Canada though. As far as edges curling get yourself a tattoo squirt bottle and you can simply reapply some water to the edges to keep those edges from drying. Also it should be noted the function of the wet pallet is to keep paint fresh for one session as over time too much water will be mixed in and will break down the paints.
ya Iv heard of Reynolds before. Im going to try that then, thanks so much for letting me know. o yeah for sure i never store it over night or never had to yet ya condensation could mess up the blend id imagine. il get the Reynolds thanks again eh@@Chuckbreakseven
I bought mine two years ago and It's become invaluable, I re wet the pad every couple of days with de ionised water, the stuff you put in your batery. It's dirt cheap from car parts shops, less than a £ so about a $. But yes definatley worth it.
You can make a lot of things yourself cheaper. What you pay for is convenience, and to be fair, this product is convenient. Plus it doesnt feel cheap. Nice colors, nice army painter branding, nice materials. Cool that it has some space to put your brushes etc... And I live in a city apartment and unfortunately dont have a spare room as a dedicated hobby space so to have everything in this compact package is nice too.
I liked it, for what it was, and i still use mine as my main wet palette. As shown, my only real issue is that its not air-tight, when you seal it. But, that really only kicks in if were to try to travel with it it. I'm kinda eager to see what Mini Masterwerk's wet palette is going to come out like.
You don't need an airtight seal.If it's airtight you will get condensation build-up which will drip into the paint.This is especially true if you put the palette in the fridge overnight.People think it must be airtight but it's not true.
I use both this one and a homemade one. I kind of depends on what I want for the moment. This one in particular is what I take when I go to my friends' to paint.
Baking parchment is hard to get in the UK, it's all that greaseproof stuff so this is defo an easy option. A little shallow as you say so the tray touches the paint so I store mine brush holder down. I just would like it if the papers were smaller to make it easier to top up the water level and stretch them to make full contact.
@@IPHbS many thanks Ivan. It was the sponge, they come packaged folded (which is silly) and the fold was making the paper touch the tray. I turned it upside down and it's all good now. Thanks again for your suggestion :)
For me metallic paints tend to dry out faster than regular ones. I'll have a couple metallic paints and several regular ones a day or two later and the metallic ones are always dried out.
Use a Ferrero Rocher box and spontex ant bacterial sponge.Get cheap baking paper and you won't go wrong.This is the best i have used thus far but i am currently testing others👍
I bought the red grass games one a few months before this one came out. Totally would have gotten this one solely because of the price. And I get you can make your own, but I’ve never had as much success with the ones I made and I could never find a Tupperware container low enough walls that didn’t annoy me every time I brought my brush over. Well worth the money and besides, we spend so much on minis, $30 is basically free!
I'm appreciative of this review as I wanted a wet pallet for someone with no idea what I am doing, I just started really painting in the past year and only a handful of times. I just wanted a good wet pallet, for the ease for mixing, that I didn't have to do much to use and maintain. This really makes me happy in my decision and it's good to see I didn't ruin it with the bit of paint that bled 🤣👍
Its a good idea to use distilled water as it won't have any crap in it which will get into the paint.Use it in the palette and also the jar you wash your brushes in.👍
@@justarandomname420 right now humidity is down here to like 46% so it's drying out every few days or so that I'm using it. During the summer it's like 66% inside or so and not really an issue that often IMHO.
@@spikeybitstv I'm in a high alpine desert mountain valley. Very low humidity, ultra high UV index, constantly windy. Paint dries on my brush while I'm painting. A drop of retardant in my wet pallet works wonders tho! Got into Army Painter stuff because of your reviews. Glad I did!
Bought one of these and it's just not working for me. I can't find anywhere that shows how much water to put in it - either the paper surface is dry as a bone and the paints just dries up or its saturated and the paints falls apart. I understand that the paper is supposed to absorb water from underneath but the paper that came with the palette doesn't seem to let anything through. I don't know, seems to be another one of those things that you either know or don't!
Put sponge in palette saturate with water pour off excess apply paper.The best paper is cheap baking paper.The best palette i have used thus far is homemade from a Ferrero Rocher box and spontex ant bacterial sponge.Cheap baking paper and you won't go astray.🐻🤗👍
Good grief. The "how I use it" example must be the most needlessly specific example in history. Over 3 minutes of rambling on about metallics and airbrushing and umber and hyper highlights and spraying red over gold. Does any of that have to do with the actual wet palette?
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I like mine ok. The fact that it's not air/water tight is frustrating. I have to replace the paper about every day in it because the paint is not really workable 24 hours later. But, it does keep it wet while I'm painting and reminds me what colors I need for the next day at least. Thanks for the review, man.
I'd totally trust the opinion of a guy who has a retail stand of said manufacturers product in his room. Yeah "buy this to support hobby business" WTF lol.
I feel like you may be new here... No one buys my opinion bro every product I talk about or use I've done so for months and or years. If you have an issue with anything I review- any of these companies I will work hard to get it resolved for you. Well except GW... they are on their own. Furthermore, in the video, I talk about how you can make one cheaper, and how there are cheaper ones out there even.
you dont want water tight as the condensation builds and can drip messing up your blend. It would be good to travel with but thats it. Iv tried many. Its the paper thats the most important part. iv tried so many and i just dont get the effect this does.
100% appreciate the gigachad move of "To save you time, yes I still use it". Excellent. Always appreciate someone who appreciates my time.
As someone who made one for "cheaper", I am glad I bought one of these last year. It works better than the home made and is easier to maintain. Your review last was the final nail in my purchase decision.
I ordered this the other day because of your review last year. I'm glad to see it stood the test of time. This will be my first wet pallet.
I absolutely love this product. Zero hassle and so easy to use 100% would recommend. Great video
I've also had my Army Painter Wet Palette for about a year now and have had no complaints. No mold or smell issues either and I haven't put any copper bits in mine. I have recently gotten the Redgrass Games Studio XL to use as my primary. I'll keep my Army Painter one to use on smaller projects and I do recommend it for those looking to just pick one up. They are readily available at your LGS which is great.
I made my own,then bought one of these,was sat for 5months,left wet with paint in.the hydrofoam was stiff and shrunk,there was no mould at all,no smell and the foam rehydrated perfectly.cant recommend it enough.
If it was completely air tight I would think that would be bad for the paint. As the water evaporates some of it needs to leave or else it would just over saturate the paint making it to thin. I may be completely wrong but it made sense to me.
You are right you don't want an airtight seal.If you have that then you will get a build-up of condensation which will drip into the paint.
I got my first stay wet palette 25+ years ago. It was the Daler Rowney Stay Wet palette (for painters) which is still available today. Back then it used tracing paper to put your paint on, and blotting paper to go underneath and hold the water. It worked well. It was considerably bigger than the one you reviewed here, but was much more basic. I like the one you showed for having the brush tray, and the new fancy water pad 😊 I may see if Santa will bring me one 🤞 😂
I love mine. I have had it for a year or so and it works really well. I also love the size. Many are way too big and this one is nice and compact
Hi :) The copper in the palette… Copper and it’s alloys - brass and such - are actively, EXTREMELY ANTI bacterial. That’s why copper pipes are used for water - in ancient times it was found that water vessels made of copper NEVER went rank. The green patination of copper rooves etc., is copper ore left as the surface once weathering has happened. In recent times, hospitals in the US have made fresh use of this old knowledge and retro fitted door push panels and light switches in brass, in intensive care wards and found a huge decrease in cross infection. During the big fright period, that item was taken out of the wiki entry for “anti-bacterial properties of copper”. The effect it has is based in ionisation and dehydration at the cell level. The SCENT of copper on our hands after touching it is copper molecules, those particles stay, spread around and literally shrivel and kill any and every cell form that they come into contact with. During the big panic, I used a bit of brass plate as my hand sanitiser, as it goes on working, unlike any applied liquid! The copper won’t corrode very well in the palette, as it’s largely an anaerobic environment in there, where the coins are, so you won’t see the result of oxidation - verdigris - but be assured, that same anaerobic environment would absolutely STINK by now - and refresh itself very quickly after any cleaning - without the coins destroying the anaerobic bacteria and fungal cells that are otherwise happily breeding in there! Rub a coin over the sponge when you change paper, spread the goodness around :)
The reason why Id like one of these is because I have tried so many parchment papers and im not getting the effect that other people are. However ! Even though my paper does not soak up it still keeps my paint wet much longer then on a dry regular pallet. Plus there is a lid for it so if I needed I could put that on or fridge it. Its great that they make replaceable paper to.
I know this is a bit late but something you could do is buy the mastersons and then buy the refill packs for this or the redgrass ones. Kind of best of both worlds if you are really trying to penny pinch or already have a mastersons. I have been doing this for quite sometime. I wet ahead and bought this one later down the road when i wanted to have more than one wet palette on hand when friends come over to paint.
I have almost everything Army Painter makes. Great company and great products!
I bought one, last year. It's great!
I had made a few before, but this had some advantages (such as: not being deep) and I love it.
Greece paper/baking paper is a cheap stand in for the refills. It's the same stuff but in a roll.
I bought one of these very recently, mostly to support a new game store near me. Yet to give it a try but it seems like a good purchase 👍
I’ve used homemade ones for years,wife got me this as she was sick of me stealing her Tupperware lids.
I got one last year as a present. I liked everything but the paper. I was getting tiny fibers in my paint. So I switched to parchment paper and everything works great.
Same. I buy the parchment paper in the box, with each piece folded into quarters. I carefully tear a quarter, and then trim it to fit in my wet pallet. Easy and inexpensive (two words you don't hear often in this hobby.
I have had the problem with fibres in the paint.For me the ap palette is too small.I am currently testing different types of palettes on my channel.I am now trying the Green stuff world xl.The best thus far is homemade from a Ferrero Rocher box and spontex sponge with cheap baking paper.
I got one for Christmas and I love it, is very practical for me and keeps me going with the paints.
Had previously bought a Masters, but between the extra effort of boiling the paper, the fact that it seemed to dry out too easily even when closed, and it being a little too large, I just bought an Army Painter. While I haven't used it yet, I'm already happy I got it just for the smaller size as it is a better fit for my workspace. Looking forward to testing it out soon.
I had bought a Masters as well. I don't like the paper and considering it is meant to be usable for heavy body acrylics it probably the reason. I gave in and bought the Army Painter palette a couple months ago.
I picked one of these up last year, very happy with it. I’d say it’s an easy recommendation 👍🏼
I still have mine! It’s awesome and it’s going strong. I don’t use the paper they include but instead use parchment cut to fit. Totally worth it.
What type of parchment paper do you buy ? Im in Canada I have tried like 6 diffrent types and I dont get the effect that these wet pallets get. They still keep paints wet longer but not as good as these. Also need pins to pin the paper or it will curle up.
Well I use Reynolds brand standard parchment paper, not sure if you can get that in Canada though. As far as edges curling get yourself a tattoo squirt bottle and you can simply reapply some water to the edges to keep those edges from drying. Also it should be noted the function of the wet pallet is to keep paint fresh for one session as over time too much water will be mixed in and will break down the paints.
ya Iv heard of Reynolds before. Im going to try that then, thanks so much for letting me know. o yeah for sure i never store it over night or never had to yet ya condensation could mess up the blend id imagine. il get the Reynolds thanks again eh@@Chuckbreakseven
I love this palette! Sponge, paper and design is perfect. One problem I have with it: it is bit too small for me.
yea you do run out of room sometimes if you're working with a lot of different colors and blends
I bought mine two years ago and It's become invaluable, I re wet the pad every couple of days with de ionised water, the stuff you put in your batery. It's dirt cheap from car parts shops, less than a £ so about a $. But yes definatley worth it.
I've had one for the past year, and I will 100% recommend it
You can make a lot of things yourself cheaper. What you pay for is convenience, and to be fair, this product is convenient. Plus it doesnt feel cheap. Nice colors, nice army painter branding, nice materials. Cool that it has some space to put your brushes etc... And I live in a city apartment and unfortunately dont have a spare room as a dedicated hobby space so to have everything in this compact package is nice too.
I finally picked one up a few weeks ago after watching your review. I'm glad it still works well for you! Thanks for the follow up video!
I liked it, for what it was, and i still use mine as my main wet palette. As shown, my only real issue is that its not air-tight, when you seal it. But, that really only kicks in if were to try to travel with it it. I'm kinda eager to see what Mini Masterwerk's wet palette is going to come out like.
You don't need an airtight seal.If it's airtight you will get condensation build-up which will drip into the paint.This is especially true if you put the palette in the fridge overnight.People think it must be airtight but it's not true.
Picked up one of these about a year ago aswell. My only gripe was it didn't have a seal on the box but I just made one for it myself.
Oh, dope. How did you do that?
I'm lazy as hell so an all in one solution for £20 with cheap and widely available refills is perfect for me.
I use both this one and a homemade one. I kind of depends on what I want for the moment. This one in particular is what I take when I go to my friends' to paint.
My homemade wet palate seems to over thin my paints so I will probably get this.
I love mine. Totally worth it.
Sadly i've had mold and bad smell after a week of use in mine. Didn't use any copper though. Don't have that problem with the Everlasting.
I like the wet pallette I have was worth buying
I use my AP wet palette all the time! It's a great product
thanks for these videos just bought one last week nice to hear it is a good product
I just bought this the other day and I am not going back to my old palette.
Best purchase ever for me, even a year later
Baking parchment is hard to get in the UK, it's all that greaseproof stuff so this is defo an easy option. A little shallow as you say so the tray touches the paint so I store mine brush holder down. I just would like it if the papers were smaller to make it easier to top up the water level and stretch them to make full contact.
You have a faulty tray then. Adress that to AP, and you will get your replacement! All the best! ;)
@@IPHbS many thanks Ivan. It was the sponge, they come packaged folded (which is silly) and the fold was making the paper touch the tray. I turned it upside down and it's all good now.
Thanks again for your suggestion :)
Cheap baking paper from tescos will do👍
@@kitswithkaren5003 I've only ever seen greaseproof in the supermarkets and that's no good, it's coated in silicon and hydrophobic.
For me metallic paints tend to dry out faster than regular ones. I'll have a couple metallic paints and several regular ones a day or two later and the metallic ones are always dried out.
Does the wet palette thin the paint for you? Never used one before
I've heard Redgrassgames are slightly better but there doesn't look anything too bad from the Army Painter Wet Palette.
Pick up a tube of Silicone, Run a bead Under the Brush Tray edge that contacts the Bottom (Wet pallet), so it seals more airtight.
Did I mention I'm watching a year old review of a year old review of this wet pallet
Is that gold metallic paint? That’s a no go for wet palettes.
I just bought one today.
Thank you! Great and useful video!
Got one too love it
I'll make my own
Use a Ferrero Rocher box and spontex ant bacterial sponge.Get cheap baking paper and you won't go wrong.This is the best i have used thus far but i am currently testing others👍
They do say store flat. Much easier solution though.
Thanks for the revisit of the review. Always interesting to see what people think of the product a year later. :)
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
I bought the red grass games one a few months before this one came out. Totally would have gotten this one solely because of the price. And I get you can make your own, but I’ve never had as much success with the ones I made and I could never find a Tupperware container low enough walls that didn’t annoy me every time I brought my brush over. Well worth the money and besides, we spend so much on minis, $30 is basically free!
If you want to make your own use a Ferrero Rocher box and a spontex ant bacterial sponge you won't go wrong.👍
I'm appreciative of this review as I wanted a wet pallet for someone with no idea what I am doing, I just started really painting in the past year and only a handful of times. I just wanted a good wet pallet, for the ease for mixing, that I didn't have to do much to use and maintain. This really makes me happy in my decision and it's good to see I didn't ruin it with the bit of paint that bled 🤣👍
Glad it was helpful!
thank you for the sopper coin trick... bacterie do not like copper at all :-)
Hey you know you can make your own at home for like $4.99 😮
If you don't like painting that much, just make one. But if you enjoy the painting aspect of the hobby, TREAT YOURSELF and buy one.
I'm more curious now why you don't have any smell buds as you call them....
seriously how did he gloss over that!?
Think of the smells he's missing.Carbon monoxide petrol nicotine dog shit😂
Hope those pennys are at least 1982 or they are not copper
Do you have to use distilled water?
Its a good idea to use distilled water as it won't have any crap in it which will get into the paint.Use it in the palette and also the jar you wash your brushes in.👍
Make your pennies are pre 1983 and you will have copper post 1983 are a blend
ah good to know thanks!
I put the copper pennies in and it made it worse
Make sure your pennies are pre 1983 , post 83 have very little copper in them and other metals will cause porblems
In one video they said, use an airbrush flow improver in the water when hydrating that should have anti-mold stuff in there.
The problem i am having is knowing how much water to put in it.
I get the sponge over saturated then pour out the extra. I live in a very dry area, so have to keep an eye on how dry it gets over painting sessions.
@@justarandomname420 That is a good tip! Thanks!!!!!!
@@justarandomname420 right now humidity is down here to like 46% so it's drying out every few days or so that I'm using it. During the summer it's like 66% inside or so and not really an issue that often IMHO.
@@spikeybitstv I'm in a high alpine desert mountain valley. Very low humidity, ultra high UV index, constantly windy. Paint dries on my brush while I'm painting. A drop of retardant in my wet pallet works wonders tho!
Got into Army Painter stuff because of your reviews. Glad I did!
Bought one of these and it's just not working for me. I can't find anywhere that shows how much water to put in it - either the paper surface is dry as a bone and the paints just dries up or its saturated and the paints falls apart. I understand that the paper is supposed to absorb water from underneath but the paper that came with the palette doesn't seem to let anything through. I don't know, seems to be another one of those things that you either know or don't!
Put sponge in palette saturate with water pour off excess apply paper.The best paper is cheap baking paper.The best palette i have used thus far is homemade from a Ferrero Rocher box and spontex ant bacterial sponge.Cheap baking paper and you won't go astray.🐻🤗👍
Good grief. The "how I use it" example must be the most needlessly specific example in history. Over 3 minutes of rambling on about metallics and airbrushing and umber and hyper highlights and spraying red over gold. Does any of that have to do with the actual wet palette?
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Cook the paper????
Masters sta-wet palette paper has to be put in boiling water first.
@@davinci3259 huh, well maybe that explains why I didn't like it and it didn't seem to work
for the money spend the extra $$$ and get the RGG one its way nicer...AP is still good but I have both and I prefer the RGG one.
Why is the RGG one better?
@@madamebutterfly4905 the paint stays fresher longer.
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I like mine ok. The fact that it's not air/water tight is frustrating. I have to replace the paper about every day in it because the paint is not really workable 24 hours later. But, it does keep it wet while I'm painting and reminds me what colors I need for the next day at least. Thanks for the review, man.
30 bucks is a scam for that also not cool to guilt trip people into supporting their LGS by buying an over priced product.
I'd totally trust the opinion of a guy who has a retail stand of said manufacturers product in his room. Yeah "buy this to support hobby business" WTF lol.
I feel like you may be new here... No one buys my opinion bro every product I talk about or use I've done so for months and or years. If you have an issue with anything I review- any of these companies I will work hard to get it resolved for you. Well except GW... they are on their own. Furthermore, in the video, I talk about how you can make one cheaper, and how there are cheaper ones out there even.
its not watertight? 100% worthless
you dont want water tight as the condensation builds and can drip messing up your blend. It would be good to travel with but thats it. Iv tried many. Its the paper thats the most important part. iv tried so many and i just dont get the effect this does.