War Thunder Air Guides Part 7 - Using And Defeating Radar Missiles (FOX-3 & FOX-1)

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
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    0:00 Intro
    1:02 How to use FOX-3 effectively
    3:00 Pulse Radar Recap
    4:17 Pulse doppler radar recap
    6:00 Multipathing
    6:56 Chaffing
    8:30 Cold, Hot and Notching
    10:16 Gimbal Limit
    10:30 Cranking
    12:00 cranking simplified
    12:50 F Pole tactics
    14:30 NEZ and MAR
    16:30 Altitude
    20:14 Examples (links in the description for the full videos on these)
    F-15 BVR introduction guide: • BVR IS EASY, When You ...
    SU-27SM: • The SU-27SM Flanker At...
    Mirage 2000F-5: • The Completely Reworke...
    F-4F ICE: • Germany Suffers ft. Th...
    Outro: A.N.O. - Vanish
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  • @Hazey652
    @Hazey652 Місяць тому +364

    Truly the Picasso of our time 🎨🖌

    • @Asspiss100
      @Asspiss100 Місяць тому +11

      "The f15 is fast but not quite as large as your mother"

    • @SotGravarg
      @SotGravarg 29 днів тому +1

      Nah Hans Zimmer is the picasso of our time, some say he's the mozart of our time but I say he's both.

  • @ItzCPU_
    @ItzCPU_ Місяць тому +233

    Who needs the mona Lisa when you can have this absolute gem of a drawing

    • @ziepex7009
      @ziepex7009 Місяць тому +3

      top 5 comment right here

    • @ItzCPU_
      @ItzCPU_ Місяць тому

      @@ziepex7009 thanks

  • @mrincogno7978
    @mrincogno7978 Місяць тому +200

    I think you have taught me everything I know in this game. From energy fighting and defensive flying to radar usage. Cheers Defyn, your guides are always a massive help

  • @Kiirxas
    @Kiirxas Місяць тому +155

    This guide is suprisingly easy to understand for such a complex topic. Massive kudos

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  Місяць тому +48

      that was the aim, glad to hear it :)

    • @CyberRecon
      @CyberRecon Місяць тому +5

      @@DEFYN This is the best guide i have ever seen, you show how to do it and show example's and keep hammering it in with clips of effectively doing it.👏👏👏

    • @frank-7861
      @frank-7861 Місяць тому

      @@DEFYNhey sorry, unrelated, what is the bracket underneath the mar at 2:29 ? Thank you
      And if you could make a short video on the new in cockpit mfd (?) radar screens on what each number means and each symbol. Thank you

    • @v0idwalker489
      @v0idwalker489 27 днів тому

      @@frank-7861the bracket is the mar, it has a lower range because if you’re close enough there are many things that the enemy could do to evade.

  • @Basicallybaltic
    @Basicallybaltic Місяць тому +9

    I left the boring museum I was in (the Louvre) because this absolute masterclass beats every exhibition there by an art school rejection and a half.

  • @EdgeR2
    @EdgeR2 Місяць тому +77

    Thank you Defyn, I can now larp properly

  • @stevato0449
    @stevato0449 Місяць тому +68

    3:53 Me when I see SU-57 in my radar

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  Місяць тому +15

      You win the comment section

    • @Micro-Lander
      @Micro-Lander 29 днів тому +3

      Shitty ah NATO jokes, bruh new jokes when they gonna drop SU57 is old

    • @stevato0449
      @stevato0449 29 днів тому +5

      @@Micro-Lander I'd make SU 75 jokes but like either of the Sukhois they're still in the hangar

    • @televisio8652
      @televisio8652 29 днів тому +3

      @@stevato0449 we'd make Su-75 jokes but the blueprints have not even left Ivan's babushka's basement. And when it does it will be a paper tiger

    • @garroncassidy385
      @garroncassidy385 26 днів тому +1

      @@televisio8652 This just sounds a bit upset.

  • @GeneralLee2000
    @GeneralLee2000 Місяць тому +90

    Can bro jam MY WEZ? 👀

  • @Beulena.
    @Beulena. Місяць тому +54

    Don't play WT anymore but gonna watch for the tutorial algorithm.

  • @Beastactive66
    @Beastactive66 Місяць тому +8

    no matter how good missiles get missiles don't go through mountains.

  • @elitely6748
    @elitely6748 Місяць тому +27

    Hell yeah, great to get a dedicated in-depth tutorial from our man Defyn!
    I've been notching Fox-3's slightly better but thanks so much we appreciate it!

  • @opar6585
    @opar6585 Місяць тому +4

    That last part when defyn mentioned that you have other ordnances really relates to me.
    I just got AIM120 some minutes ago with F15C and while i grinded it most of my kills were with aim9m.
    Lots of people got so focused and stressed facing fox 3s that they forgot that ir missiles still exist, they just didnt flare. Easy splash.

    • @garrettpersyn3665
      @garrettpersyn3665 15 днів тому

      Happened to me the other day in my F-14B, got uptiered to 13.0 and had a missile fired at me head on, was confident it was an AIM-120 only to realize too late that it was an AIM-9M and I hadn't bothered turning my afterburner off when I turned around

  • @Panocek
    @Panocek 29 днів тому +1

    17:42 - targets that have clear sky as background gives Pulse Doppler no ground returns as reference point to filter out, thus any decent radar set becomes unnotchable unless chaff is involved.

  • @hunterparke9059
    @hunterparke9059 24 дні тому +2

    A wonderfully educational video with defined terms within. This video does not exclude a single audience and I applaud you for that. Thank you for putting this out there:)

  • @sdghtjsdcgs
    @sdghtjsdcgs 18 днів тому +2

    The last point about IR missiles and guns is super relevant. I've gotten a ton of IR and gun kills lately. Its like people are so focused on Fox 3's the rest of their brains stopped working.

    • @venatrix3431
      @venatrix3431 16 днів тому

      Same with my Magic 2s, though rarely gun kills because people will keep distance (and expose their afterburner in the process)

  • @ArcaneActual
    @ArcaneActual Місяць тому

    For real, great video! Hard to cover so much information that comes with the bvr play but you nailed it and kept it entertaining.

  • @antonmancia2096
    @antonmancia2096 Місяць тому +1

    Great video that compiles really well all the knowledge one needs to fight in the new META. A great watch

  • @Adrella_Highwing
    @Adrella_Highwing Місяць тому

    Really appreciate the level of detail and corrolating it all into one video, thanks man! Must have been a lot of work!

  • @Amexel
    @Amexel Місяць тому +2

    Very helpful video, I knew some of this already but the strategies with altitude and cranking are really good to learn! Got an Ace in the Gripen A yesterday so IR-missiles are definetly still useful lol

  • @hindel6141
    @hindel6141 Місяць тому +3

    Very informative Mr. Defyn. Thank you for sharing.

  • @Duality.12
    @Duality.12 29 днів тому +2

    this is why I love you
    you make things simple and put visual examples in the video for speds like me

  • @brianebanks1769
    @brianebanks1769 23 дні тому

    Very well done video. You explained conplex concepts well using similes and analogy. You may not get the most views with these videos but they are very helpful. Ty defyn

  • @GOLDEN_TOMCAT
    @GOLDEN_TOMCAT Місяць тому +1

    Man this Video is such a Masterpiece thank you so much Defyn ♥

  • @Asspiss100
    @Asspiss100 Місяць тому +2

    8:05 ive found that when notching and dropping 2-3 pops of chaff at a time in random intervals, the missile is slightly turning into the chaff briefly before going back to lead pursuit on my plane- effectively making it travel a greater distance while also turning more rlcreating drag and slowing it down. Makes it a lot easier to outrun/ outturn it

  • @nemexx3357
    @nemexx3357 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for explaining this! Massiv help.

  • @roebuckpayne
    @roebuckpayne Місяць тому +1

    This video is excellent.
    Well done as always Def. o7

  • @oofdotcom420
    @oofdotcom420 Місяць тому

    perfect timing Defyn, i just got the RB99's on the "new" grippy

  • @MarkKirkwood-ox4zv
    @MarkKirkwood-ox4zv 27 днів тому

    Seriously started using your videos on how to actually notch, crank and play these jets at top tier. Genuinely top notch content as well as patter.

  • @Hagop64
    @Hagop64 Місяць тому +1

    I feel like I was already almost doing everything right but not having great success with it. Thanks for clarifying the key bits I was missing!

  • @Yablokus
    @Yablokus Місяць тому +1

    Your videos really helped me to become better at dogfights. Thank you!

  • @varesin2978
    @varesin2978 Місяць тому +1

    Defyn is a masterfull virtuoso when it comes to painting.
    That SU-27 at 8:45< is made in such a way that blinking makes it wobbly. So much talent required to create such a powerful illusion.
    Truly impeccable piece of art.

  • @stevato0449
    @stevato0449 Місяць тому +2

    Love cranking to your videos keep it up 👍👍

  • @KledAteTacos
    @KledAteTacos Місяць тому +1

    Good guide, thanks defyn

  • @gggnikcalbiz
    @gggnikcalbiz Місяць тому +17

    study for 30 mins ❌ watch how to deal with fox-3 missiles ✅

  • @aescobar32
    @aescobar32 28 днів тому

    amazing video and great info. Gracias!

  • @The_Gabinator
    @The_Gabinator Місяць тому

    Thanks for the great tutorials as always.

  • @HinataNarutoSasuke
    @HinataNarutoSasuke Місяць тому +1

    Thanks, needed this

  • @Gerg_de
    @Gerg_de Місяць тому +1

    I already knew most of this but i didnt know exactly how the DL display and PD worked so this video was very informative

  • @H34Rt54
    @H34Rt54 Місяць тому +1

    Dude thank you so much for fox-3 missile guide,

  • @MrVazRaptor
    @MrVazRaptor Місяць тому +1

    nice job defyn

  • @braedynhoward3644
    @braedynhoward3644 Місяць тому +7

    also, for cranking, losing some altitude while turning to the gimbal limit also forces the missile to turn more as it decreases in altitude and as it enters thicker air, while you retain your speed in a turn as you fly down. this makes the missile turn down, in addition to turning left or right, while flying into thick air. And if you then use the gimbal limit to turn in the other direction, it bleeds more speed before finally turning cold (but that's not recommended unless you have some distance to maneuver before the missile reaches you, otherwise, crank and go cold).

  • @user-dv1hm5rq7q
    @user-dv1hm5rq7q Місяць тому +1

    Gave Videos!
    Bedankt

  • @tkadi21
    @tkadi21 27 днів тому

    congrats for the effort !

  • @willthomas9635
    @willthomas9635 Місяць тому +1

    this was very well thought out and presented. Well done. Should help lots of noobs out there

  • @xRazProductions
    @xRazProductions Місяць тому +1

    Excellent content. Really.

  • @waskus
    @waskus Місяць тому +1

    Great video

  • @progenrh4754
    @progenrh4754 Місяць тому +1

    Good shit bro thanks alot

  • @usmcpound
    @usmcpound 29 днів тому

    This seems so much easier in RB the sim.
    Thanks for the useful information.

  • @Tuhrue
    @Tuhrue Місяць тому +14

    Gonna watch this knowing full well Im still gonna get smacked out of the air by these new wall hacking missiles even after using terrain masking to defeat them (literaly happened)

  • @catto7274
    @catto7274 Місяць тому +1

    my brain expanded by a significant amount after this video, thank you neurosurgeon Dr. Defyn

  • @roebuckpayne
    @roebuckpayne Місяць тому +1

    This is helping me learn to fly my 5F. I’m no good with the MICA’s.

  • @hankstorm3135
    @hankstorm3135 20 днів тому

    nicely made thx

  • @amari2509
    @amari2509 Місяць тому +1

    So much fun.. thank you

  • @j-figpack5153
    @j-figpack5153 Місяць тому

    Needed those few seconds 😩😤😤

  • @HoorGuvLabs
    @HoorGuvLabs Місяць тому +1

    I just gooned all over my table seeing a new defyn video

  • @Squizziles
    @Squizziles Місяць тому +1

    DEFYN Making us all more qualified pilots than actual Mig pilots and the few modern phantom pilot’s 😂😂

  • @LokirofRoriksted
    @LokirofRoriksted Місяць тому +1

    thanks for the guide. I was thinking about getting a top tier premium with the summer sale, tried it out and couldnt fire missiles or anything

  • @GonKreicy
    @GonKreicy 29 днів тому +2

    DFYN: See the radar as a fleshlight
    Me: Wait what? Oh right, accent

  • @mochabear88
    @mochabear88 Місяць тому +1

    ty

  • @scenario7f12
    @scenario7f12 Місяць тому +1

    Would still be stuck at props if Defyn wasnt around, appreciate every bit of help you give (ps I reckon your the next Van Gogh as well :))

  • @Bastyxx227
    @Bastyxx227 Місяць тому +1

    When your understanding of a topic is so great, that you can explain it like we are 5 yo
    Excellent video Defyn, as always the Picasso of our time

  • @navyeod_24
    @navyeod_24 24 дні тому

    There goes UA-cam unsubbing me from people randomly again. Love these videos, helps a lot for surviving in top tier!

  • @WelsyCZ
    @WelsyCZ Місяць тому +2

    Hey thank you for this guide, even though I was familiar with radar (or so I thought) and have like 1500 games at 10.3+, this was real easy to understand and I loved watching it. Real useful.

  • @elbalazo5135
    @elbalazo5135 Місяць тому

    This comes in handy for when I pass the French br 11.3 and get to the mirage 2000.

  • @samuelealessi234
    @samuelealessi234 Місяць тому +1

    You are the reason i didn't gave up on Air RB

  • @Wotplaya4
    @Wotplaya4 Місяць тому +5

    I want to note, for 9:05, that yes most PD radars will usually not have a problem with zero speed closure rates, not all radars can lock targets at zero closure speed (in all conditions). The F-14s radar most notibly suffers from zero speed clutter. How in the world you'd ask, that's because of sidelobe returns. When flying low to the ground, the ground right underneath you has a strong enough return (from your radar sidelobes) to clutter the 0 m/s speed region. The ground underneath you is essentially always moving with you at the same rate.
    Most modern radars do not have this clutter at all, it's just turned off in their code (I guess they filter these out using radar altitude data realistically speaking). In the case of the F-14, it's about a +/- 60 m/s region from zero speed you can't lock when cluttered, going to higher altitudes of course helps reducing the clutter. F-4J/S (and the Speys) suffer from the same issue, as well as radarsets with the MTI mode, maybe some other ones as well.

    • @Mikestriken
      @Mikestriken Місяць тому

      Yeah that part confused me, because I knew that closure rate was filtered in the F-14 from experience.

  • @bensundermann6553
    @bensundermann6553 Місяць тому +1

    I minute ago DEFYN guide = :)

  • @WestwindKestrel
    @WestwindKestrel Місяць тому

    Damn i'm early. 2 things that I think could be added is 1. Checking if canopy rolling can still be used to dodge and 2. a rough "matchup" spreadsheet where you fire two different radar missiles from equal starting positions and see which one reaches first (e.g. 530D vs. R-24R etc.). Also, try playing the Netz now lol.

  • @KekForce1
    @KekForce1 Місяць тому +1

    Bro really broke the 4th wall at the end with putting us to sleep just as I was dozing off 😳

  • @kgetman88
    @kgetman88 Місяць тому +2

    Had to pause my goon sesh to watch and study

  • @nicolasalexander408
    @nicolasalexander408 Місяць тому

    Hi DEFYN, is there a video about how you got to learn so much about planes et al in war thunder? You have such a comprehensive knowledge as far as I can tell and are able to explain things in real time...just wondering? I got myself a F5-C, I've never had many jets and I do really like props tbh, but they are pretty cool though all the missiles stuff is not particularly relaxing.....

  • @LV3BRR
    @LV3BRR Місяць тому +2

    I thought i knew a decent amount about fox 3s and defending, guess i didint

  • @justinmarcogarcia6855
    @justinmarcogarcia6855 Місяць тому +13

    Imagine applying all of this then your team proceeds to get wiped out, FUN

    • @kingghidorah8106
      @kingghidorah8106 Місяць тому +4

      as the soviet mains said when the r27er got you in terminal guidance: Just nutch hardur bro))

  • @_VORT3X_.
    @_VORT3X_. Місяць тому +1

    Being a DCS player is beneficial 👌👍

  • @BazzRahulGaming
    @BazzRahulGaming 28 днів тому

    Mmm...
    Now thats a good stuff.
    👌

  • @nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666
    @nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666 Місяць тому

    best line of the video dont forget you have a gun so many ppl have forgot they have a gun now

  • @poly18
    @poly18 Місяць тому +2

    Hey Defyn, are you planning to do a video on the J-8F with the new missiles? Just want to know if it’s any good or not😊

  • @user-md6jm3kv6d
    @user-md6jm3kv6d Місяць тому

    Thx

  • @babch0
    @babch0 Місяць тому

    yay, from now on I can finally leave 8.3 and go play toptier again (it will be painful quckly lol)

  • @nicolasalexander408
    @nicolasalexander408 Місяць тому +1

    I was just watching missile videos and eh, here we are......how not to die so much....awesome.....

  • @kingghidorah8106
    @kingghidorah8106 Місяць тому +5

    Defyn my dude, your animated infographics are insane. I remember when it all started with sideway silhouettes of props and the explosion emoji 💥now you animate radars and flight paths (edit even each missile's own silhouette too) . You's a man always improving, someone make him stop!

  • @Evrimomono
    @Evrimomono Місяць тому

    Larped my heart

  • @iliaskzls1232
    @iliaskzls1232 28 днів тому

    That's all good and stuff, but can you make a video explaining how to use the radar and missiles?

  • @pyencdocde5716
    @pyencdocde5716 Місяць тому +1

    I like this video

  • @BlackbirdDrozd
    @BlackbirdDrozd Місяць тому

    Anyone else noticed after reduction of the multipath that the WT trees are like 120 meters tall? I was flying a mirage today and was using the cockpit radar altimeter that displays exact height from the ground and when I finally reached 60 meters (when the ground protection of multipath starts), I was like in the middle of the height of average tree in the map ...... 120m trees (like 400 feet) is probably too much for a tree :D

  • @salltyboi
    @salltyboi Місяць тому +1

    Mwuah Defyn❤

  • @MrHelllove
    @MrHelllove Місяць тому +1

    best poilt

  • @amari2509
    @amari2509 Місяць тому +6

    Do ppl actually prefer this meta over the ir furball one?

    • @srgabrielfb
      @srgabrielfb Місяць тому +1

      This one for sure, but i think Gaijin should make another game mode with furballs and everybody gets happy *suffering*

    • @aerocraft3377
      @aerocraft3377 Місяць тому +1

      @@srgabrielfb They did, I think it´s called arcade or something

    • @srgabrielfb
      @srgabrielfb Місяць тому

      @@aerocraft3377 Nah it doesn't Work for top tier, They need the last realistic mode instead of the current arcade.

  • @antoinespadone7834
    @antoinespadone7834 Місяць тому +1

    Could you make a video on any aircraft at 12.3-12.7 without any fox 3 like the M4K wich impossible to play in the current metha

  • @pandoranbias1622
    @pandoranbias1622 Місяць тому

    Welcome to the Navy Fighter Weapons School. Your instructor for today will be Lieutenant Colonel "Cutaway" Defyn.

  • @GoldRunner95
    @GoldRunner95 Місяць тому

    I’m not gonna get to top tier before I die but I’ll watch this just in case I can play it in my afterlife

  • @LugborG
    @LugborG 10 днів тому

    So THAT'S how the missile knows where it is.

  • @Frogg-YT
    @Frogg-YT Місяць тому +1

    oh dam, i've been using fox-3s COMPLETELY wrong this entire time (luckily i never use them)

  • @adrianb8693
    @adrianb8693 Місяць тому +1

    I have a question, if we all like dogfighting in top tier planes, wouldnt It be a good idea to make another gamemode like ARB (df) (doghfight) so we can have idk maybe higher multipath or whatever like duels? so we can play again dogfighter planes like the f16 A

  • @chish7690
    @chish7690 29 днів тому

    you might need to review the jas39a gripen at 12.7 with aim7e2s and bol chaff that 120s cant track

  • @thesawtoothdude
    @thesawtoothdude Місяць тому

    Any idea why my camera resets to center when I try to use an input while in free look? Such as trying to zoom or pitch while looking behind my aircraft

  • @luigisbrother7968
    @luigisbrother7968 Місяць тому +3

    I should not have found Defyn saying "sigma missile" as funny as I did yet here I am laughing away as a hyena. Tho great video as always

  • @piecemakernoalias1018
    @piecemakernoalias1018 29 днів тому

    Amazing seeing all the features I have no access to because I have a Baz Meshupar (I don't gamble so don't try to tell me to play Derby roulette with the Barak II)

  • @user-zp6vy9zx5n
    @user-zp6vy9zx5n Місяць тому

    Play one of the JU-87 series planes defyn chan ( preferably the Gs or The Ds )

  • @ViewerofContent
    @ViewerofContent Місяць тому

    Ngl I might just keep looping in props. 👍