Thanks for sharing the making videos. I am facinated since the first minute I worked on a scraper during apprenticeship and despite the fact that I have everything at hand to make metal work a joy there is still no scraper in my home shop. Your video reminded me that is is a must to have - once I am grown up, I will buy me one. ... Thanks, great video.
when they break a gear where i work we have to do this as well... not sure why companies don't upgrade. anyway proof you can make anything on a sharper except money. good video!
@Foam Farmer modern machines typically use linear bearing slideways, for the much lower cost of construction. The pro is price, but the con is loss of rigidity. All recirculating ball screws and linear roller ways have backlash. The backlash is compensated by parameters in the cnc control, backlash is the enemy of all machinists, while box slideways are infinitely rigid, acme lead screws usually have a hydraulic backlash eliminator that puts thousands of pounds of pressure to the nut to eliminate backlash. Here's a rule of thumb : Modern machines are good for composite materials and plastics. Older machines (box ways) for steels and hard materials.
@Foam Farmer retrofitting is common on specialized machinery, i used to do that. The more complex the machine (gear shaper) the more complicated the retrofit. You then need someone who knows gear shaping and dnc to run it. That guy owns his own business. Our economic system has forced skilled jobs into extinction.
Keep in mind it would require a big miller or cnc machine to machine those big gears. The beauty of the shaper is its flexibility without the need for expensive tooling.
@@stexxvan To many peoples disappointment...you can. You just need to make a rotary table, sync the rotation to the ram stroke like you would for helical milling, just with some crazy gear ratios and maybe even redesigning the whole power transmission, AND making a sideways clapper. BOOM! Rapid production threading, automatic advance and automatic tool retraction! Threads made on a shaper as efficiently or even more than on a lathe (If you don't skimp on using open change gears and make a proper gearbox this is the only thread cutting machine I would ever want to use. Think of it as a horizontal fellows cutting a very tight helix (sorta).I really enjoy these rhetorical engineering questions of defiance! That's how I figured out you can turn a globoidal worm gear on a manual engine lathe and as usual with manual machines...an attachment!
Its funny. All the mills and cnc machines I used over the years I always found shapers to be actually interesting to watch. So pimple but crazy complex, guess that is what makes them neat
Para fresar interiores me parece bien un cepillo de Codo o un escoplo, pero para exteriores no hay como la fresadora y con un cortador orizontal o un hob, es más rápido y con mejor calidad de terminación
Hi, I just bought such a machine :) Almost a week has been standing still not unloaded from the car :( Regards from Poland , Paweł. P.S. What I could, I left on your interesting channel;)
The indexer is fine. I think you need to make the neutral axis of the wire ( wire centerline) at the same radius as the gear pitch diameter from the axis of rotation. The linear length you move must be equal to the amount of pitch diameter you traverse. Otherwise you will rotate either too far or not far enough, in your case too far or pulley dia was too large.
if no special requirements are needed its in spec as it is for such large modulus. maybe sandpapersharp jumps down by hand :D:D:D and leave it some time for breaking in. we had a conrete mixer with gap between teeth i could put my finger in it and nothing would happen.
Tulisan BUDI KARYA TEKNIK yg d tengah tu mengganggu bgtt, sumpah Kek gabisa d tarok di ujung bagian bawah Atau kalo ga, besar kan aja sekalian tilisan nya
@@stevena105 those gears arent for precision machines. Maybe thats why they use those kind of company and no the other with last tech and precision machines.
Excellent video content. Unfortunately someone decided to put a watermark dead center of the frame.
I wonder who was the clown that did that
Indoshit
I’m sure someone has stolen other videos of his so he had to do that so they won’t make any money off the video if stolen
All the “satisfaction” channels love to steal videos like this from people. They make alot from it too.
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Thanks for sharing the making videos. I am facinated since the first minute I worked on a scraper during apprenticeship and despite the fact that I have everything at hand to make metal work a joy there is still no scraper in my home shop. Your video reminded me that is is a must to have - once I am grown up, I will buy me one. ... Thanks, great video.
Some eternity later...
when they break a gear where i work we have to do this as well... not sure why companies don't upgrade. anyway proof you can make anything on a sharper except money. good video!
Much cheaper to grind up a form tool than try and get a gear cutter for a one off job when your in a hurry.
Your answer is : the cost of cutting tools for the sharper is cheapest
It probably doesn't happen often enough to warrant buying a new machine
When labor is cheap and parts are expensive 🤣
Ummm somebody has to make the part
When people had actual skills, not just button pushing.
@Foam Farmer modern machines typically use linear bearing slideways, for the much lower cost of construction. The pro is price, but the con is loss of rigidity. All recirculating ball screws and linear roller ways have backlash. The backlash is compensated by parameters in the cnc control, backlash is the enemy of all machinists, while box slideways are infinitely rigid, acme lead screws usually have a hydraulic backlash eliminator that puts thousands of pounds of pressure to the nut to eliminate backlash.
Here's a rule of thumb :
Modern machines are good for composite materials and plastics.
Older machines (box ways) for steels and hard materials.
@Foam Farmer retrofitting is common on specialized machinery, i used to do that.
The more complex the machine (gear shaper) the more complicated the retrofit.
You then need someone who knows gear shaping and dnc to run it. That guy owns his own business. Our economic system has forced skilled jobs into extinction.
I always thought a CNC shaper would be an advantage, for what I'm sure perhaps gear racks.
From indonesian country . Sukses selalu budikarya teknik😘
“Robots are taking our jobs!”
Their jobs:
Haven't seen an old Traveling Head Shaper since I was an apprentice. Brings back memories.😁
Get the text out the very center of the screen.
a please would be nice
He stole it from another channel, put a dead centre watermark, then reupload it as his videos.
Somewhere I’ve hear that the only thing you can’t make on a shaper is money.
How about threads and auger?
Keep in mind it would require a big miller or cnc machine to machine those big gears. The beauty of the shaper is its flexibility without the need for expensive tooling.
holes are a bit difficult as well
@@stexxvan To many peoples disappointment...you can. You just need to make a rotary table, sync the rotation to the ram stroke like you would for helical milling, just with some crazy gear ratios and maybe even redesigning the whole power transmission, AND making a sideways clapper. BOOM! Rapid production threading, automatic advance and automatic tool retraction! Threads made on a shaper as efficiently or even more than on a lathe (If you don't skimp on using open change gears and make a proper gearbox this is the only thread cutting machine I would ever want to use. Think of it as a horizontal fellows cutting a very tight helix (sorta).I really enjoy these rhetorical engineering questions of defiance! That's how I figured out you can turn a globoidal worm gear on a manual engine lathe and as usual with manual machines...an attachment!
Skill on a big scale. Awesome!
This must be the most time consuming way of making gears.
I see you never cut one by hand.
Some people like to consoom a lot
I guess some are reaparations, seems very expensives those gears , i guess those are for very very big machines.
@@pak3ton for heavy duty like metal shredder, steel roll
Wooden gears are made much faster
This has to be the best video I have seen this year. Thank you Budikarya for showing us all this unique method of gear hobbing using shapers.
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Gear "hobbing" is a completely different process... 🙄
See their other video.... 😎👍
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@@peterfitzpatrick7032 I meant the word hobbing loosley. But you are correct. Good day and peace too. VF
Wow really impressive hand eye coordination! I assume this is only the roughing stage?
Involute profile of a gear tooth each stroke is bye sliding tool feeding this is expertise. Excellent skill worker.....
What did you do for a living before you retired? "I made a big gear. Took me 30 years, but I got 'er done".
Aaah, the shaper.
The amazing work that machine can do.
👍🏼
This actually makes me thankful for the Maags and hobs we have
Great video! Very Informative! Thank You!
I guess they are charging the customer for every cut.
Obviously, duuhhhh
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Excellent good work 👍👌👏👍👍👍👍
Amazing. How do you refine the profile when finished on the shapers?
Nice to see the tried and true still is a good way.
Wow..gud job Sir
Even when it’s sped up it’s slow 😱
Like it!! Great stuff.
Hell of a cycle time, 1 tooth a shift.
And then your new colleague screw up on the last tooth :D
@@Chris-yy7qc 😆
I did not know this could be done amazing
Bah que mão pra fazer uma peça,com toda a tecnologia que tem hoje
ours still uses planer to do this type of service, I swore it was made with cnc milling cutters
Mantap, salam anak pemesinan
🤘🤘
Its funny. All the mills and cnc machines I used over the years I always found shapers to be actually interesting to watch. So pimple but crazy complex, guess that is what makes them neat
Amazing..........
Parabéns, vcs são fera
I love shapers.
Amazing 🔥🔥
I loved seeing half the video! The other half was covered with your name, comrad. But I bet it looked amazing behind the letters. Also... Why?
Хороший строгальник😉
Very good!
When you get paid by the hour but you are worth every cent.
When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
I'd rather be a hammer than a nail
Yes i would
If i only could
I surely would
I have 2 of such similar Shaper. The crown pinion of sugar mills are easily made on such machines
great bang the tools Indonesia is here, listen
A praina é bem engenhosa!!!
Lajwab
Mantap👍👍
Parabéns 👏👏👏👏
Не очень умно надписи посреди экрана выставлять. Бесит и смотреть очень мешает.
Para fresar interiores me parece bien un cepillo de Codo o un escoplo, pero para exteriores no hay como la fresadora y con un cortador orizontal o un hob, es más rápido y con mejor calidad de terminación
Hi, I just bought such a machine :)
Almost a week has been standing still not unloaded from the car :(
Regards from Poland , Paweł.
P.S.
What I could, I left on your interesting channel;)
you dont know how handy a shaper is until you dont have it. even the small ones.
4:10 OSHA field day
😅😅
@@BudikaryaTeknik was that you? Lol
Nope lol
yg komentar banyak orang kulon😄
vidionya keren👍👍
Orang kulon pada marah2 liat watermark 😅😅
Makasih banyak mas 🙏
The indexer is fine. I think you need to make the neutral axis of the wire ( wire centerline) at the same radius as the gear pitch diameter from the axis of rotation. The linear length you move must be equal to the amount of pitch diameter you traverse. Otherwise you will rotate either too far or not far enough, in your case too far or pulley dia was too large.
Good idea. Thanks!
dark ages machining, too labor intensive
Lỗi thời jôi. Bán ve chai đi
Eu já fiz uma restauração numa máquina dessa
Interesting 🧐 though 👍🏻
Wah keren mas. Kalo untuk quenchingnya gimana ya mas sebesar itu?
I like it
I want to see how the precision final shape is ground...
if no special requirements are needed its in spec as it is for such large modulus. maybe sandpapersharp jumps down by hand :D:D:D and leave it some time for breaking in. we had a conrete mixer with gap between teeth i could put my finger in it and nothing would happen.
Do you realizer how many transmission from old cards and tractors can be saved!!!
Great 👌
Wow antique gears technology,
May be Antique technology, but takes considerable skill by the machinist to accomplish!!!
It's not this guys first rodeo!!!
so slow.
Voilà la vrai fonction de l'étau limeur bravo
how is the form generated? Scribed lines?
Can i know what is metariyal usd for thise
Keren
Wouldn't forging be a faster way to do this?
Oh hi yea about that order I said I needed, well turns out....😬
Is this all manually done? Are you just following an outline?
following marking line
Can someone explain why it doesnt bent easily???
Qué paciencia !
Insert / bevel apa itu yang di pakai mesin shaping ....
Satisfaction
Muito top
Mesin badak ni pas di stm
Who are the builders of your horizontal shaper machine, thanks 😊
Empuk amat besinya
I would think they would be ground after roughing out.
I wanna know what the dude gets paid to turn the wheel 😂
1 bowl of rice and no bathroom breaks !!
Keren bang
Keren gimana, itu diatas pada bahas ni video colongan. Malah jadi bikin malu.
É um pouco mais difícil do que cortar no pantografo.!
You should make your name bigger. Real big. The sound is all we need anyway.
I'll make you a CNC shaper for this work.
Show d+
Trabalhei em uma fábrica de elevadores, tinha uma dessa, fazia rasgo de chaveta kkkk
Tá louco! Essa parada tinha que ser mais automatizada...
@@duffmensimpsons4868 Verdade kkkk
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Tulisan BUDI KARYA TEKNIK yg d tengah tu mengganggu bgtt, sumpah
Kek gabisa d tarok di ujung bagian bawah
Atau kalo ga, besar kan aja sekalian tilisan nya
It has to be tight in z axis....
Paling cepat berapa hari itu bang buat gear yang pertama
Memang mantap, suscribe balik oke,
Looking at the 4th slot over at the 2:46 time stamp you can see it is far too shallow. Otherwise very impressive!
Noticed that also, it looks like a defect in the ring, that likely needs a weld fill before chunking the rest out.
Dios te bendiga
Sin lubricación?, no estoy criticando, solo se me hace extraño 🤔
They cannot afford any lube.
Butuh berapa lama utk proses bubut buat gear tersebut?
I clicked in expecting to see some amazing automation. Then I saw the guy on the wheel...
Just...why? How?
The labour is cheap, why bother with automation
@@KarrasBastomi Consistency. Reduce variances and deviations.
@@stevena105 those gears arent for precision machines. Maybe thats why they use those kind of company and no the other with last tech and precision machines.
Это очень долго и не производительно.
Для этих операций существуют другие станки, а не строгальные.
Это очень плохо, просто пиздец!!!
Да это долго и не производительно но какое есть оборудование на том и работают .
@@Kuban.1968 Проще на сторону отдать на зубофрез, дешевле будет чем долбёжный по-глупому гонять.
Диванные инженеры собрались! Так построен техпроцесс, зуборезы им не нужны
i did not no thid is how gears was made and deffo not big gears bloody hell what a time taking process why not just mould them why like this
Faster milling machine