A beautiful piece of art! The one thing I like about small layouts is that the builder doesn't become overwhelmed with too large a project. By not biting off more than you can chew, attention to detail as in this case can be achieved with great results. Sounds incredible too!
Thanks for your comment. You are absolutely correct in that the same amount of time and effort on a much larger layout would be alot less effective. Plus the sounds we are offered these days are of a much higher quality so alot less needs to happen on a layout to keep people interested. :-)
Hi , first seen this layout at NEC when I was exhibiting my American layout. Since then I have built 5 exhibition layouts. All of which have been in RM. it is your layout that inspired my to build them. Thank you for the inspiration to build them. If you ever wish to Sell it let me know. Terry Tasker.
Hi Terry Thank you for the kind words. I am pleased it has inspired you to create and exhibit. Borders Reach was sold a couple of years ago to another big fan of it and continues to be enjoyed. Keep modelling 👍👍
@@PaulWright I'm an American modeller but do like a bit of British ( Dad was into the British rail- geez he would have loved the sound of these). I've recently obtained a GP 38-2 ( EMD) loco, Roots Blower. So impressed with the sound. But have to say your loco sounds better :-) I've subscribed * thumbs up*
I'm sure you already know, but the best sound reproduction comes from a speaker which sits in an air tight enclosure, otherwise the sound volume and quality is severely compromised. This particular loco has a 28mm round 4 Ohm 1w speaker installed in an air tight enclosure in the fuel/water tanks between the bogies facing down, which produces a great burbling Sulzer thrash. Thank you for subscribing, but I don't get the opportunity these days to upload very much.
That loco sounds brilliant. If I could make a small suggestion - don't forget gallons of black diesel oil and congealed sludge pooling between the tracks - and trailing off where they leave. Love the detail.
Hi Kris. Thank you for taking the time to comment. Believe it or not what you suggest is what has been modelled, but the lighting and camera used has not picked it up, and doesn't show hardly at all in the video. Rest assured that there are copious amounts of oil/diesel/coolant stains in the 4 foot and in between the tracks too. If anything I may have over done it, if you can do such a thing on a depot layout.
+DaveClass47 Hi DaveThanks for the comment.I was going to upload other classes of loco's with Legomanbiffo's sound chips but the layout has now been sold, so I am unable to do so.I am working on another depot layout so will probably upload some vids of that when complete in a couple of months. It is a larger layout so I can put the loco's through their paces a bit more.
DaveClass47 hi there great layout with lot of fine details plus great locomotive quick question the yard in front of the layout what did you use for the surface thank you.
Hi, I don’t have a layout yet as I’m getting my kitchen done and then I’m clearing out the spare room for one hopefully some time next year. Your layout is positively inspirational! The first thing I noticed about the amazing detail is the ground. Apart from the plants, there’s not a clean bit of ground to be had. Excellent! For a small area, it is a layout one can study for quite a while enjoying all the detail. I was wondering what to do about the window in my room and thought I can’t have a backdrop in front of it, now I think I’ll have a retaining wall there. Like I said earlier, inspirational!
Thanks Jazz Man for the kind words. As is the case with small layouts you can develop the detail quite quickly to the desired level to get a good looking layout. As with layouts of any size they can always be added to with improvements as ideas take hold Good luck with your potential layout build when your kitchen is completed. :-)
+Terry McNabb Hi Terry Thanks for your kind words.Not bad for my first upload, I guess.With these sound loco's you actually need to "DRIVE" them which really adds yet another dimension to layout operation.If I get time I'll upload more classes of loco in the next few days.Paul
Peter Thanks for the kind words. Detail is the key on small layouts and is relatively easy to achieve compared to larger layouts. A small amount goes along way.
This track plan has been used since 1998 to create several layouts of different eras and regions to suit customers needs. It was originally planned by my late brother to demonstrate space saving ideas on small layouts.
Great video and sound, and wonderful shunting layout. What's make is the loco and is it using the manufacturers sound chip and speakers or have you upgraded them? Sound seems v good.
The loco is a Heljan (Danish) manufactured product who do not produce ready fitted DCC Sound locomotives, as yet. The sound decoder is an ESU LokSound V4, which has since been superseded by the next generation of LokSound "5"'s, and loaded with Legomanbiffo sound files. The speaker is a 28mm round 1.5W 4 ohm speaker fitted airtight in the tanks between the bogies. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
@@PaulWright Thanks Paul. I was really impressed with it's smooth slow running over the points and wondered if you're using a 'Stay Alive' device in it? I've read mixed reviews on whether these are really necessary and that with good track and loco maintenance (and of course electro-frogs) you shouldn't need them. Welcome your view...
The inclusion of stay alives isn't generally required for modern loco's with more than 4 wheels, (2 axles). There are caveats of course as you suggest, cleanliness of wheel tyres, wheel backs, pick-ups & track are usually areas which will improve running qualities better than a stay alive, except where insulfrog point work has been used. The smaller stay alives, which fit most loco's, are generally used to smooth out the LED flickering which can occur with loco's so fitted, and do not have a sufficient storage capacity to be very effective as their capacity is less than half a second, but to have a really effective stay alive fitted usually means cutting out some of the chassis to fit one in, but they have a capacitance of over 5 seconds which is very useful. As you say if electrofrog point work has been utilised and everything is kept spotlessly clean, which does take some effort, then all should be well, even with DCC Sound, which requires a higher level of cleanliness than just straight DCC.
Excellent Paul! Superb attention to detail. If you have the time to reply, could you pls tell my why you used code 100 track in such a highly detailed layout? I’m planning my first layout and am aspiring to code 75, but I wondered why you did not. Track looks amazing regardless! Thanks.
Hi Andrew, Thanks for your kind comments. The main reason for not utilising code 75 track was for the geometry of the 3 way point. The geometry of the code 100 3 way was better to fit the desired track plan in the 4' x2' space available. As always it's a balancing act between different aspects of requirements for each layout. Code 75 certainly does look better, but with careful ballasting and weathering code 100 can look almost as good. If there are no geometry and space restraints then I use all code 75 or Peco Bullhead, which looks even better than code 75. Hope that helps.
@@PaulWright Thanks Paul. I know what you mean about the geometry and space restraints of the 3-way point. I *think* I will be OK with the staggered code 75 version, but I still need to dig out my old rolling stock from the 70s and, if it's any good, ask a nice person at an exhibition to see if it runs OK on code 75. Once I'm at the serious planning stage I shall print out the Peco templates and make my final decision between 100 and 75. Like you say, with good weathering (and your weathering skills are outstanding, if I may add) then code 100 looks brilliant too. Thanks again!
If you have very old rolling stock then you will probably have running issues with code 75 as some of the older wheels have deeper flanges and wider tyre profiles. The smaller running flange gap between the stock rail and the switch rail may cause issues, plus. the flanges will actually hit the chairs on the sleepers holding the rails in position. No doubt you will find this out when running through the 3 way point.
Excellent layout just one thing, Ive worked at numerous depots on BR as a secondman, Including Tinsley and Shirebrook West and i never saw a loco with such dirty windows, Lots of layout modellers seem to go for your look its so wrong, Im not saying all the locos i worked the windows were sparkling but they weren't like most folk model them sorry for the rant.
The loco used to demo on the layout was due to have the glazing cleaned soon after the video was made. The weathering process on the loco's obviously contaminate the glazing, and this is removed as the final part of the weathering process, and then the final embelishments are applied.
Hi Chris. The retaining walls and buttresses are scratchbuilt using slaters 4mm dressed stone walling, capped with .5mm plasticard, and weathered of course. Chris, did Neil Mason offer you the Hornby Loadhaul 56006? He hasn't got back to me regarding this so it's been renumbered and renamed as 56006 "Ferrybridge Power Station", etched plates fitted, detailed and weathered if your interested 👍
Hi DaveThe crash barriers are lengths of code 75 bullhead rail supplied by C & L finescale, with small lengths cut for the supports, then painted yellow. Hope this helps.
The ballast is a mix of Woodland Scenics N gauge ballast and kiln dried sand which is laid in the usual way and then weathered with various colours with an airbrush.
Hi DarrenThe sound files are by "Legomanbiffo" which can be purchased through DC Kits website.The speaker is a 23mm round 4 ohm type in the fuel tanks under the chassis inbetween the bogies.A custom built speaker enclosure is also available from DC Kits which includes a much bigger speaker in a custom made replacement fuel tank, although the detail isn't as good as the Heljan one, so I tend to just cut the holes in these and make sure the speaker is airtight in it's enclosure, which is very important to get the best sounds.Hope this helps.
Hi Darren The loco is fitted with an ESU LokSound V4 8 pin chip loaded with Legomanbiffo sound files and has a 23mm speaker in an enclosure in the fuel/water tanks between thee bogies. I now use a bigger rectangle speaker in the tanks and it sounds even better (:
HiIt doesn't really matter what type of loco's you are using as a layout like this can be formatted to suit any time period or location as well as loco types. To start with you need to be as clear as you can as to what you want the layout to achieve for you. In this case I wanted a layout which showcased the loco's I had. A layout like this could easily be filled with shunters, as a small depot would usually have an allocation of shunters and not main line loco's. The depot may be called upon to maintain or repair minor problems with the larger loco's from time to time.If you wanted a shunting layout which involved the shunting of wagons/coaches, then there are many small layouts which have achieved this in a very small space.
Hi Paul, looks the business! I've just subb'd to your channel. I only hope my TMD depot area is somewhere as cool as this one when I get it built. Check out my channel and let me know your thoughts. Cheers. Dave
Hi DaveI have just spent a couple of hours watching your Dean Park videos.....superb stuff.......have subscribed.To say our layouts are at the opposite ends of the size spectrum would be an understatement. Great inspirational loft layout you have there.Hopefully, when I find the time, I will upload some other classes that have visited this layout in the past.Thanks for dropping by.Paul
Paul Wright Paul, your layout is an inspiration....its given me sooo many ideas for detailing my TMD. Great attention to detail, you're a man after my own heart! Thanks for subbing. Appreciate that. Cheers. Dave
Hi Dave The reason for the YO-YO acceleration is to show the 3 different styles of pull away sounds that are produced by the Legomanbiffo sound files. The sounds produced are governed by the throttle position which makes the "playability" much higher than other sound files available which just give the 1 style of acceleration.
You should explain that in the text (you have now). The sound is great and I appreciate that the linitations of the trackplan mean that the loco can do little else but go back and forth, but I still feel that the speed is excessive. It's great to see a layout that isn't dominated by dusty bedraggled trees. My compliments to the cameraman for showing just the layout with no walls or people in the background.
One of the nicest Diesel Shop Modules I have ever scene Nice long switches, and a brilliant simple and logical Depot track plan!
A beautiful piece of art! The one thing I like about small layouts is that the builder doesn't become overwhelmed with too large a project. By not biting off more than you can chew, attention to detail as in this case can be achieved with great results. Sounds incredible too!
Thanks for your comment.
You are absolutely correct in that the same amount of time and effort on a much larger layout would be alot less effective.
Plus the sounds we are offered these days are of a much higher quality so alot less needs to happen on a layout to keep people interested. :-)
The most realistic layout on UA-cam by some distance
Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated.
Yes, very good. Will be well pleased if I get close to this level of quality and realism. You can almost smell the diesel fumes!
Superb, Details, congratulations
@@micheldenis6362 thanks Michele
Hi , first seen this layout at NEC when I was exhibiting my American layout. Since then I have built 5 exhibition layouts. All of which have been in RM. it is your layout that inspired my to build them. Thank you for the inspiration to build them. If you ever wish to Sell it let me know. Terry Tasker.
Hi Terry
Thank you for the kind words. I am pleased it has inspired you to create and exhibit.
Borders Reach was sold a couple of years ago to another big fan of it and continues to be enjoyed.
Keep modelling 👍👍
Love that sound!!
It's one of the best sounding small diesels around, you gotta love the Baby Sulzers
@@PaulWright I'm an American modeller but do like a bit of British ( Dad was into the British rail- geez he would have loved the sound of these). I've recently obtained a GP 38-2 ( EMD) loco, Roots Blower. So impressed with the sound. But have to say your loco sounds better :-) I've subscribed * thumbs up*
I'm sure you already know, but the best sound reproduction comes from a speaker which sits in an air tight enclosure, otherwise the sound volume and quality is severely compromised. This particular loco has a 28mm round 4 Ohm 1w speaker installed in an air tight enclosure in the fuel/water tanks between the bogies facing down, which produces a great burbling Sulzer thrash. Thank you for subscribing, but I don't get the opportunity these days to upload very much.
That loco sounds brilliant. If I could make a small suggestion - don't forget gallons of black diesel oil and congealed sludge pooling between the tracks - and trailing off where they leave. Love the detail.
Hi Kris.
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Believe it or not what you suggest is what has been modelled, but the lighting and camera used has not picked it up, and doesn't show hardly at all in the video.
Rest assured that there are copious amounts of oil/diesel/coolant stains in the 4 foot and in between the tracks too. If anything I may have over done it, if you can do such a thing on a depot layout.
watched this again today....still one of my all time favourite videos on youtube! Dave
+DaveClass47 Hi DaveThanks for the comment.I was going to upload other classes of loco's with Legomanbiffo's sound chips but the layout has now been sold, so I am unable to do so.I am working on another depot layout so will probably upload some vids of that when complete in a couple of months. It is a larger layout so I can put the loco's through their paces a bit more.
Paul Wright Aw that's a shame....I really enjoyed watching that layout, but I am sure your new one will be even better!
DaveClass47 hi there great layout with lot of fine details plus great locomotive quick question the yard in front of the layout what did you use for the surface thank you.
Great scene and plenty of detail
Thanks John.With a small layout you can concentrate on more of the detail, and on a small layout a small bit of detail can make a big difference.
Cheers John
Amazing layout and loco. I love it.
Thank you.
Great report, a source of inspiration, thank you very much !
Thanks for taking the time to view and comment (:
This is just an awesome layout so much in such a small space, any chance of seeing the exact track plan. Fantastic modeling skill 👍👍
Thanks. I'll try and load up a track plan.
@@PaulWright cheers mate 👍
Hi, I don’t have a layout yet as I’m getting my kitchen done and then I’m clearing out the spare room for one hopefully some time next year. Your layout is positively inspirational! The first thing I noticed about the amazing detail is the ground. Apart from the plants, there’s not a clean bit of ground to be had. Excellent! For a small area, it is a layout one can study for quite a while enjoying all the detail. I was wondering what to do about the window in my room and thought I can’t have a backdrop in front of it, now I think I’ll have a retaining wall there. Like I said earlier, inspirational!
Thanks Jazz Man for the kind words.
As is the case with small layouts you can develop the detail quite quickly to the desired level to get a good looking layout.
As with layouts of any size they can always be added to with improvements as ideas take hold
Good luck with your potential layout build when your kitchen is completed. :-)
Thanks Jazz Man. Good luck with your layout.
Paul Wright
Just found your excellent layout
Do you have a track plan ?
What do you use as a fiddle yard ?
Eltel
Hi Paul. Beautiful job! Excellent video as well. Congratulations.
+Terry McNabb Hi Terry
Thanks for your kind words.Not bad for my first upload, I guess.With these sound loco's you actually need to "DRIVE" them which really adds yet another dimension to layout operation.If I get time I'll upload more classes of loco in the next few days.Paul
Loco weathering is very good.
Thanks Katarina.
Excellent job well done that man.
Thank you
looks fantastic, the detail is excellent.
Peter
Peter
Thanks for the kind words. Detail is the key on small layouts and is relatively easy to achieve compared to larger layouts. A small amount goes along way.
This needs more views!!!
Thanks for watching (-:
Awesome detail keep up the good work!
Thanks.
Great stuff.
Nice video.
Thank you.
Great video and layout
Thanks
Love this lay out was the track lay out your idea or was it from a track plan you found some where if you could help that be great :)
This track plan has been used since 1998 to create several layouts of different eras and regions to suit customers needs.
It was originally planned by my late brother to demonstrate space saving ideas on small layouts.
Great video and sound, and wonderful shunting layout. What's make is the loco and is it using the manufacturers sound chip and speakers or have you upgraded them? Sound seems v good.
The loco is a Heljan (Danish) manufactured product who do not produce ready fitted DCC Sound locomotives, as yet. The sound decoder is an ESU LokSound V4, which has since been superseded by the next generation of LokSound "5"'s, and loaded with Legomanbiffo sound files. The speaker is a 28mm round 1.5W 4 ohm speaker fitted airtight in the tanks between the bogies. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
@@PaulWright Thanks Paul. I was really impressed with it's smooth slow running over the points and wondered if you're using a 'Stay Alive' device in it? I've read mixed reviews on whether these are really necessary and that with good track and loco maintenance (and of course electro-frogs) you shouldn't need them. Welcome your view...
The inclusion of stay alives isn't generally required for modern loco's with more than 4 wheels, (2 axles). There are caveats of course as you suggest, cleanliness of wheel tyres, wheel backs, pick-ups & track are usually areas which will improve running qualities better than a stay alive, except where insulfrog point work has been used.
The smaller stay alives, which fit most loco's, are generally used to smooth out the LED flickering which can occur with loco's so fitted, and do not have a sufficient storage capacity to be very effective as their capacity is less than half a second, but to have a really effective stay alive fitted usually means cutting out some of the chassis to fit one in, but they have a capacitance of over 5 seconds which is very useful.
As you say if electrofrog point work has been utilised and everything is kept spotlessly clean, which does take some effort, then all should be well, even with DCC Sound, which requires a higher level of cleanliness than just straight DCC.
Great layout. are those 3 ways normal or asymetrical? I am building my own TMD layout and they sure do save space..
Hi Steven. The 3-ways are the Code 100 symmetrical ones.
@@PaulWright Insul or electro frog?
@@MrBristolmidland they are electrofrog
Excellent Paul! Superb attention to detail. If you have the time to reply, could you pls tell my why you used code 100 track in such a highly detailed layout? I’m planning my first layout and am aspiring to code 75, but I wondered why you did not. Track looks amazing regardless! Thanks.
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for your kind comments.
The main reason for not utilising code 75 track was for the geometry of the 3 way point. The geometry of the code 100 3 way was better to fit the desired track plan in the 4' x2' space available.
As always it's a balancing act between different aspects of requirements for each layout.
Code 75 certainly does look better, but with careful ballasting and weathering code 100 can look almost as good.
If there are no geometry and space restraints then I use all code 75 or Peco Bullhead, which looks even better than code 75.
Hope that helps.
@@PaulWright Thanks Paul. I know what you mean about the geometry and space restraints of the 3-way point. I *think* I will be OK with the staggered code 75 version, but I still need to dig out my old rolling stock from the 70s and, if it's any good, ask a nice person at an exhibition to see if it runs OK on code 75. Once I'm at the serious planning stage I shall print out the Peco templates and make my final decision between 100 and 75. Like you say, with good weathering (and your weathering skills are outstanding, if I may add) then code 100 looks brilliant too. Thanks again!
If you have very old rolling stock then you will probably have running issues with code 75 as some of the older wheels have deeper flanges and wider tyre profiles. The smaller running flange gap between the stock rail and the switch rail may cause issues, plus. the flanges will actually hit the chairs on the sleepers holding the rails in position.
No doubt you will find this out when running through the 3 way point.
Excellent layout just one thing, Ive worked at numerous depots on BR as a secondman, Including Tinsley and Shirebrook West and i never saw a loco with such dirty windows, Lots of layout modellers seem to go for your look its so wrong, Im not saying all the locos i worked the windows were sparkling but they weren't like most folk model them sorry for the rant.
The loco used to demo on the layout was due to have the glazing cleaned soon after the video was made. The weathering process on the loco's obviously contaminate the glazing, and this is removed as the final part of the weathering process, and then the final embelishments are applied.
Class 26 :)
Great diesel railway .Thumbs up to you .Hope you like mine diesel dave's
Where are the retaining walls from please Paul?
Hi Chris. The retaining walls and buttresses are scratchbuilt using slaters 4mm dressed stone walling, capped with .5mm plasticard, and weathered of course.
Chris, did Neil Mason offer you the Hornby Loadhaul 56006? He hasn't got back to me regarding this so it's been renumbered and renamed as 56006 "Ferrybridge Power Station", etched plates fitted, detailed and weathered if your interested 👍
Just shows what can be done with just under 5ft and 2ft!
Hi, see the yellow 'crash' barriers?, what brand are they? Cheers. Dave
Hi DaveThe crash barriers are lengths of code 75 bullhead rail supplied by C & L finescale, with small lengths cut for the supports, then painted yellow. Hope this helps.
Nice engine shed. Was it a kit or did you make it yourself?
Hi Soundseeker.The low relief engine shed was scratchbuilt by myself, and is based on the shed at Haymarket.
What ballast is that ?
The ballast is a mix of Woodland Scenics N gauge ballast and kiln dried sand which is laid in the usual way and then weathered with various colours with an airbrush.
@@PaulWright sounds Hard to make
Paul,
Who's sounds do you have and what speaker is used in the 26, it sounds great.
Hi DarrenThe sound files are by "Legomanbiffo" which can be purchased through DC Kits website.The speaker is a 23mm round 4 ohm type in the fuel tanks under the chassis inbetween the bogies.A custom built speaker enclosure is also available from DC Kits which includes a much bigger speaker in a custom made replacement fuel tank, although the detail isn't as good as the Heljan one, so I tend to just cut the holes in these and make sure the speaker is airtight in it's enclosure, which is very important to get the best sounds.Hope this helps.
Hi Darren
The loco is fitted with an ESU LokSound V4 8 pin chip loaded with Legomanbiffo sound files and has a 23mm speaker in an enclosure in the fuel/water tanks between thee bogies. I now use a bigger rectangle speaker in the tanks and it sounds even better (:
I'm not sure how to start a little layout with sound like this because I try to use shunters
HiIt doesn't really matter what type of loco's you are using as a layout like this can be formatted to suit any time period or location as well as loco types. To start with you need to be as clear as you can as to what you want the layout to achieve for you. In this case I wanted a layout which showcased the loco's I had. A layout like this could easily be filled with shunters, as a small depot would usually have an allocation of shunters and not main line loco's. The depot may be called upon to maintain or repair minor problems with the larger loco's from time to time.If you wanted a shunting layout which involved the shunting of wagons/coaches, then there are many small layouts which have achieved this in a very small space.
This is sort of what I'm trying do but I can't find any dcc shunters that are cheap
Ah...Yes....DCC Sound and cheap aren't 2 words that go together I'm afraid but good luck anyway
Just buy non dcc compliant shunters and make them dcc ready by installing a dcc chip in them that's what I did with my intercity depot
0:56 what class
The class of loco is class 26 or Sulzer type 2
Hi Paul, looks the business! I've just subb'd to your channel. I only hope my TMD depot area is somewhere as cool as this one when I get it built. Check out my channel and let me know your thoughts. Cheers. Dave
Hi DaveI have just spent a couple of hours watching your Dean Park videos.....superb stuff.......have subscribed.To say our layouts are at the opposite ends of the size spectrum would be an understatement. Great inspirational loft layout you have there.Hopefully, when I find the time, I will upload some other classes that have visited this layout in the past.Thanks for dropping by.Paul
Paul Wright Paul, your layout is an inspiration....its given me sooo many ideas for detailing my TMD. Great attention to detail, you're a man after my own heart! Thanks for subbing. Appreciate that. Cheers. Dave
A wonderful layout but is that loco with such incredible acceleration pretending to be a yo-yo?
Hi Dave
The reason for the YO-YO acceleration is to show the 3 different styles of pull away sounds that are produced by the Legomanbiffo sound files. The sounds produced are governed by the throttle position which makes the "playability" much higher than other sound files available which just give the 1 style of acceleration.
You should explain that in the text (you have now). The sound is great and I appreciate that the linitations of the trackplan mean that the loco can do little else but go back and forth, but I still feel that the speed is excessive. It's great to see a layout that isn't dominated by dusty bedraggled trees. My compliments to the cameraman for showing just the layout with no walls or people in the background.