I would really like to see the Cat 289d3 up against the Bobcat t76, technically those are supposed to be more comparable being that they are both 74hp 10,000 lbs machines
I agree. Problem is CAT prices themselves out of the market. The T770 in Canada, is about $130k, and the 289 is $143k, 299 is $148k. 289 is perfectly capable, but its primary competitor, the T76, is only like $108k. Definitely not worth the extra $35k for something with the same power range.
Hey Garrett, I've had a T770 for about 18 months now. Been in it about 6 hours a day for an average. I personally have had more problems with it than i think a machine like that should have over that amount of time. Broken tilt cylinders, broken tilt cylinder pins, too many error codes to count, three fuel sending units, aux controller replacements, and still throwing codes left and right. Throws tracks pretty easily too. I mulch quite a bit, so looking at a 299D3 as a replacement. Great videos, btw!
No machine will hold up to abuse, I’ve got a 2021 a770 and have got over 1500 hours, aside from general maintenance, no issues, sure hope I don’t jinx myself
@@Jim-fo4dd like I stated in the comment, I mulch quite a bit, which is pretty abusive to a machine that isn’t at all made for it, but at the same time, each and every problem I’ve had has been covered under warranty and deemed the fault of Bobcat in some form or another. Broken tilt cylinder and pins were a primary and secondary issue. The cylinder was deemed to have come from a bad batch of cylinders that Bobcat knew about, the resultant force from that break is what damaged and eventually broke the pin. So I say that to say this: I take really good care of my equipment, it’s how I make money. Bad aux controllers, fuel sending units, and throwing codes from day one have nothing to do with abuse or how hard the machine is running, it has to do with QC at Bobcat, or maybe lack thereof?
We had a lot of overheating problems with our s770. Dealer has looked at it three or four times and it keeps happening. Throws several codes and we have to let it cool down, but then it will only operate 5 to 20 minutes before overheating again. Ended up being at least partially related to a wiring harness issue. It’s still not perfect. Enough headaches to have us searching for a new skid steer. It ain’t always “abuse.” Sometimes design can make components a bit more susceptible to damage or irregular wear and tear. Neat machines but frustrating when even the service department can’t figure out your issue. You’ll run into that occasionally, anywhere. Not just Bobcat.
Both awesome machines but I prefer the cat over the bobcat the ac will freeze you and the heat will drive you out in the winter they just need to Improve that stupid door system, we have to carry a propane torch with us because the hinges freeze and lock up when it gets super cold in the winter.
Great comparison. I'm surprised to see the 74hp Cat 289D3 keep up with the 95hp Bobcat T770. I know they are both in the same weight class but it's still a little disappointing that a non-DEF machine is keeping up with a DEF machine. What is the price difference?
Im currently pricing out skid steers up here in Canada. The T770 is about $130k, the 289 is $143k, 299 is $148k. 289 is perfectly capable, but its primary competitor, the T76, is only like $108k. Definitely not worth the extra $35k for something with the same power range.
Ive ran both I'd take either one of them over a POS Case. I ran bobcats for many years. I run cat track machine now 299d3 love it. We have some case wheel machines junk. Hate them. No visibility out of the cab and the pilot controls are junk.
nice video! Look up vts loegering tracks for skid steers. I will make a video in Canada of our wheeled skid steer with the wheels off it with these tracks on it climbing hills and tag you in it.
As a person that works on a lot of skid steer you are crazy. Kubota and takeuchi will be down for months if the distributor doesn't have the as it has to come from Japan. Also the tak and Kubota are not as reliable. Bobcat is a good machine all around the just suck ass to work on. Personally I like cat the most least amount of problems and easy to work on compared to bobcat. Case, jcb and takeuchi are junk once get a few hours on them everything goes to hell, drives, cylinders, head gasket issues, and much more takeuchi is the worst of all of them reliability wise
There in the same weight class. Can't help that CAT underpowered the 289 and 279. even my old deere 270 9000lb machine has 84hp. 75hp for a 10500 lb machine is low.
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I would really like to see the Cat 289d3 up against the Bobcat t76, technically those are supposed to be more comparable being that they are both 74hp 10,000 lbs machines
I agree. Problem is CAT prices themselves out of the market. The T770 in Canada, is about $130k, and the 289 is $143k, 299 is $148k. 289 is perfectly capable, but its primary competitor, the T76, is only like $108k. Definitely not worth the extra $35k for something with the same power range.
Hey Garrett, I've had a T770 for about 18 months now. Been in it about 6 hours a day for an average. I personally have had more problems with it than i think a machine like that should have over that amount of time. Broken tilt cylinders, broken tilt cylinder pins, too many error codes to count, three fuel sending units, aux controller replacements, and still throwing codes left and right. Throws tracks pretty easily too. I mulch quite a bit, so looking at a 299D3 as a replacement. Great videos, btw!
No machine will hold up to abuse, I’ve got a 2021 a770 and have got over 1500 hours, aside from general maintenance, no issues, sure hope I don’t jinx myself
We have 1450 hours on our T770 and she has had no major failure, also knocking on wood. don't abuse machine, machine will last.
@@Jim-fo4dd like I stated in the comment, I mulch quite a bit, which is pretty abusive to a machine that isn’t at all made for it, but at the same time, each and every problem I’ve had has been covered under warranty and deemed the fault of Bobcat in some form or another. Broken tilt cylinder and pins were a primary and secondary issue. The cylinder was deemed to have come from a bad batch of cylinders that Bobcat knew about, the resultant force from that break is what damaged and eventually broke the pin. So I say that to say this: I take really good care of my equipment, it’s how I make money. Bad aux controllers, fuel sending units, and throwing codes from day one have nothing to do with abuse or how hard the machine is running, it has to do with QC at Bobcat, or maybe lack thereof?
We had a lot of overheating problems with our s770. Dealer has looked at it three or four times and it keeps happening. Throws several codes and we have to let it cool down, but then it will only operate 5 to 20 minutes before overheating again. Ended up being at least partially related to a wiring harness issue. It’s still not perfect. Enough headaches to have us searching for a new skid steer. It ain’t always “abuse.” Sometimes design can make components a bit more susceptible to damage or irregular wear and tear. Neat machines but frustrating when even the service department can’t figure out your issue. You’ll run into that occasionally, anywhere. Not just Bobcat.
Interesting and you are doing great work on our lawn
Hey I love to see that you use local skid loader attachments. I happen to work there and we take a lot of pride in the attachments we send out.
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Both awesome machines but I prefer the cat over the bobcat the ac will freeze you and the heat will drive you out in the winter they just need to Improve that stupid door system, we have to carry a propane torch with us because the hinges freeze and lock up when it gets super cold in the winter.
Love the videos man we have both cat and bobcat your definitely right there are pro and cons to both… good luck buddy
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Great comparison. I'm surprised to see the 74hp Cat 289D3 keep up with the 95hp Bobcat T770. I know they are both in the same weight class but it's still a little disappointing that a non-DEF machine is keeping up with a DEF machine. What is the price difference?
Cat seems to have better power management on it, it has power where it needs it & the anti stall works good on them also.
Im currently pricing out skid steers up here in Canada. The T770 is about $130k, the 289 is $143k, 299 is $148k. 289 is perfectly capable, but its primary competitor, the T76, is only like $108k. Definitely not worth the extra $35k for something with the same power range.
Ive ran both I'd take either one of them over a POS Case. I ran bobcats for many years. I run cat track machine now 299d3 love it. We have some case wheel machines junk. Hate them. No visibility out of the cab and the pilot controls are junk.
It a good match between the Cat and Bobcat. Just be the different in price to buy the unit.
Both get the job done....
Does the 289 have snail mode like bobcat?
Y'all having to much fun with those machines good thing still under warranty lol
I have a 21 288 d3 not too bad but I need more power.
Cat 289d3 Vs Bobcat T76?
T770 now has ride control.
nice video!
Look up vts loegering tracks for skid steers. I will make a video in Canada of our wheeled skid steer with the wheels off it with these tracks on it climbing hills and tag you in it.
Ranking for skid steers.....imo 3) Kubota, 2)takuchei,1) bobcat
As a person that works on a lot of skid steer you are crazy. Kubota and takeuchi will be down for months if the distributor doesn't have the as it has to come from Japan. Also the tak and Kubota are not as reliable. Bobcat is a good machine all around the just suck ass to work on. Personally I like cat the most least amount of problems and easy to work on compared to bobcat. Case, jcb and takeuchi are junk once get a few hours on them everything goes to hell, drives, cylinders, head gasket issues, and much more takeuchi is the worst of all of them reliability wise
If you ever ran a bobcat before you should know they’re junk
Looks like the bobcat has more tooth engagement on the drive sprocket, if that makes a difference…
I would like to know, how FAST the Bobcat T770 goes?....In rabbit mode full power, seems VERY SLOW,,,
ONLY about 8 mph.....Should Go about 13 mph.
The 770 has 94hp and cat has 20hp less, cat makes great machines. I would go cat over Bobcat but either are great little machines.
Not reeeeeally comparable though with the 289 only 75hp. Gotta put that size bobcat up against a cat 299
There in the same weight class. Can't help that CAT underpowered the 289 and 279. even my old deere 270 9000lb machine has 84hp. 75hp for a 10500 lb machine is low.
Put the 299 up vs the new T86. That would be something to see.
Price is probably a more realistic category parameter, and the Bobcat is less expensive. So probably a fairly realistic comparison.
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@@GarrettWilliams2017 I saw your new truck in his neck of the woods today.
This guy is a terrible operator!!!