A lady from my church heard a couple at the mall speaking a language that sounded similar to when she speaks in tongues. She asked the strangers at the mall what language they were speaking and they said “Hebrew!”. So, she spoke in tongues out loud to them asking if they understood her and they said, “Yes, you’re praying for your mother!” That’s miraculous.
Well I think it actually did and I’m sure he can verify it. This isn’t an isolated case either since God is sovereignly doing as He pleases through His vessels all the time.
My brother spoke in tongues over someone at his church and the guy said," You speak Welsh?" My brother answered that he didn't know Welsh. The guy was from Wales and said my brother was speaking to him in his native tongue. That was supernatural.
That would indeed seem like a word from the Lord. Did your brother have an intentional message known to him? (as in Acts 2, where they knew what they were saying and praising, but we're speaking in tongues unknown to them, while heard by others in their own languages).
I was an a mission trip to Poland many years ago. When we prayed together in tongues with the Polish believers. One of them recognized that I prayed in Polish, and he gave me the interpretation. It was a great word of encouragement to me.
Before someone recognized the language, did you think you were just speaking gibberish/heavenly language? I don't say that in disdain, but I ask because I know some people struggle and believe their tongues is not real until something like that happens.
While in Bible class my pastor was praying in tongues. I heard very clear in my mind he was quoting Isaiah 61. After I told him, he explain he and his son were praying Isaiah 61 that morning. I then gave him a word that pertained to valentine signature candy and God calling him to intimacy and he explained his favorite candy is love signature candy. Be careful not to limit the power of God. I sometimes hear what people are praying in the spirit in English and a lot is scripture. I do not know my pastor at a personal level.
I was just teaching on this on Monday. In our denomination it’s usually like prophecy where the interpreter who would stand and say what is being said and the speaker and interpreter would go back and forth just as you see interpreters do in “real life”, those interpretations are weighed as would any prophecy. There is also a lot of worship interpretation. I’ve had a girl would got saved, few moments later spoke in tongues and another lady who got saved the week prior interpreted, the message was God encouraging us to continue evangelising and saying how much people were being helped by our ministry. And then more people got saved because of what they saw. So you find a lot of encouragement and comforting also. That’s what really cemented my belief in these gifts.
It’s very similar is my experience as well. Most often it’s a back and forth between a couple of people where it’s almost a prophecy or encouragement/instruction from the Lord about something.
The dilemma is in a public setting such as Sunday mornings is how does one know if there is an interpretater presence. The way i read it is if a tongue is given and no one interpretates then no more tongues. You guys did a great job.
I believe that speaking in tongues in a corporate setting is allowed in certain applications (when non believers aren’t present). The context in 1 Cor 14 is about a clear message being portrayed to the church for edification. If the person leading the prayer meeting for example asks everyone to pray in tongues for 1 minute, that is not going against what Paul said. If the speaker were to speak in tongues, and not have an interpretation, then that’s going against ch14. But if the whole congregation knows that it’s time to pray in tongues, there is no confusion there because everyone knows what’s going on and that isn’t a violation of ch 14
I frequently listen to a word of faith church online where the pastor is teaching (from the Bible) and frequently, the Holy Spirit will, thru a church member, interrupt and give and share his love and direction regarding the message. There is always an interpreter, and it always edifies the church and lets the church know that not only God is there but he’s listening. It’s wonderful. I wish I had the gift of interpretation, but I don’t. I’ve prayed for it, but I should probably pray more in tongues myself before I receive that gift.
I have while praying in tongues with someone had them recognize words that they actually knew from their language. I would say there are diverse kinds of tongues- initial evidence of the baptism of the Spirit, praying in tongues, and tongues & interpretation. I love all of these gifts. I’m grateful for all of them operating in the church.
Before someone recognized the language, did you think you were just speaking gibberish/heavenly language? I don't say that in disdain, but I ask because I know some people struggle and believe their tongues is not real until something like that happens.
@@BEABEREAN10 I have always felt like tongues were a real language based off of Scripture. Whether it be the language of angels or of men it is still real language that is being used. I have faith that when the Holy Ghost moves on me He is using real language. I have experienced doubts around this before and these experiences did help however. I think I would still be Pentecostal even without these experiences of having people know what I was saying- but it’s definitely been a thing that has helped me keep going.
I just want to encourage those asking "Why? Why do we need these if we have the scriptures?" The gifts give specificity to our lives in a way that scripture sometimes does not. The gifts help us to live more intimately with God (and often woth others). The gifts give us the privilege of participating in what God is doing beyond what we can do in the natural. Even an uninterpreted tongue in your bedroom is a participation in the work that God is doing to bring glory to Himself. The gifts are a gift!
I'm a very recent former cessationist, as in I began investigating spiritual gifts last summer, and didn't fully believe in them until earlier this year. The funny thing was I've had the gift of tongues for at least 5 years and was in denial. When I started studying spiritual gifts I was still under the impression that all tongues are a human language (not sure what I think now), so to "test" that I really had the gift I started Googling the syllables I was saying to the best of my ability (which wasn't great lol), BUT what I usually ended up getting was that the fragments I could get a translation for were praise or prayer, and they were usually in Urdu/Punjabi or possibly Hebrew. - Has anyone else had this interpretation experience or is it just me? lol - Anyhow, all this to say I'm encouraged to hear that tongues are usually interpreted as prayer!!
Also, on the question of "Why do we need tongues to (or another spiritual gift for that matter) edify?", it's been my experience that that's God participating with us and living within His church. Maybe that's partially what is meant by being "partakers of the divine nature." Before believing the gifts still exist today, I didn't feel or understand in what ways we were truly connected to God. He was in Heaven and He had given us this Book to live by, and one day we would be with Him that was all.
I think tongues can be the "scariest" of the gifts to non-believers or cessationists, etc. It's weird when you first see it and hear it and if you haven't been taught about it, it makes no sense. Understandable that you were hesitant to embrace it. BUT so glad you didn't ignore it!
@@rebeccacline1433 Wow, yes! You sound like me. I was a cessationist and also started investigating the gifts last summer. I also was trying to google syllables as well. lol
A helpful take-away for me from this conversation is the idea of delineating between a public space where uninformed/unbelieving people are present and a space where everyone present is mature in the gifts. I will have to think about this more. I am a pastor in the Foursquare Church and grew up in Foursquare. It is common during conferences, camps, etc. that the whole room is encouraged to pray in tongues if they have this gift. But as I've studied scripture I've become convicted that the practice of praying in tongues out loud in a group setting, is (at best) unwise and unhelpful, if not totally unbiblical. So for years, when in these settings, I've prayed in tongues but kept my voice low so that others couldn't hear. But I hadn't considered that perhaps at a pastors conference setting, where everyone present is mature and informed in the gifts, it may not be inappropriate to pray this way corporately. Still considering this, and open to feedback.
I am part of a non-denominational charismatic church and we definitely flow in this way. We call them believers meetings...They are technically open to the public as are all of our services, yet they are focused on the training and equipping of believers to continue the work of Christ. These are the times when we pray corporately in tongues because people under what is going on, they are learned. I have even seen it happen on a Sunday morning as well, but maybe 3 times in ten years and only when the pastor knows there aren't visitors present.
If no unbelievers or unlearned are present, it is not out of order. If an unbeliever or unlearned is present, God will be faithful to supply the interpretation of the people are willing to cooperate with what the Bible says and not act on their own accord. I understand how you’ve felt on this to and have be relearning what I just stated after looking at the text again and again.
WHAT WAS THE PROBLEMATIC PRACTICE OF SPEAKING IN TONGUES AT CORINTH IN 1 COR 14? 23 If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all, 25 the secrets of his heart are disclosed, and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you. When I was a new Christian, someone told me that speaking in tongues without interpretation would drive people away from the gospel. "It is madness to them," I was told. I was confused and wanting to do the right thing, I stopped worshipping God in tongues during the corporate worship part of the service. I so wanted to live a life pleasing to God. Then in seminary, I asked a godly scholar, about this passage. He unpacked this for me in way that left me speechless. The answer was so obvious, yet I missed it. The context is "the whole church comes together." (v. 23) So, we're talking about practice in community worship and fellowship. Look at the parallel structure. If.......all speak in tongues (v. 23) But if all prophesy.....(v. 24) Whatever the practice, it was the same for tongues and prophecy. The "all" practice can only be "ALL AT THE SAME TIME" or "ALL IN SUCCESSION." There are no other options. But if it is talking about all at the same time, prophecy would be just as confusing and disorderly as tongues. Think of the whole congregation all reading from a different portion of Scripture at the same time. This would be just as unedifying to the mind as all praying in tongues at the same time. So, this passage clearly does NOT address the problem of all speaking at once. Now, let's consider all in succession. If this practice refers to both gifts, the passage makes sense. Imagine a service in which each person stands, speaks in tongues without interpretation, and sits down! Indeed, unbelievers or ungifted attendees would think they are crazy--UNLESS THEY ALSO INTERPRET. (1 Cor 14: 14-19) All prophesying in succession would make perfect sense of the passage. So, what does 1 Corinthians say about a congregation worshipping God in tongues. Nothing. The Scripture doesn't address the issue. People worshipping are not addressing the congregation but God. I've been in non-English speaking congregations in which everyone has hands raised and is praising God in Chinese, Tagalog, Spanish, and tongues. I was not confused. I don't think they are mad. Their words don't need interpreted. They are not talking to me, teaching me, or addressing me; they are addressing God. The principle that applies is 1 Cor 14:39-40, "So, my brothers, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. But let all things be done decently and in order." Someone yelling at the top of his or her voice every week during worship in tongues or prophecy or constantly interrupting a teaching time with tongues or prophecy might still be out of order. I felt so freed with this clearer understanding of Scripture. If I am worshipping, with my indistinguishable voice blended into the din of praise, no interpretation is needed. I am using the gift in the context of worship and prayer not to address the congregation. The practice stands up to Biblical scrutiny.
55:35 "If we're going to practice any of the spiritual gifts we also have to practice the rules that accompany their spiritual gifts..." This is why this channel maintains a credibility! Though I don't want to be a cessationist, one has to agree with their skepticism. Nonsense dishonors God... And people that do not esteem and revere God's rules are predetermined reprobate. This should scare anyone who has this "wild west" perspective. You guys do an admirable job here in honoring God. Soli Deo Gloria
I have a question: in you guys experience, does someone with the gift of interpretation actually hear the tongue in a language that they can understand, or does God speak to them separately about what was said. For example, if a group is “practicing” the gift of interpretation, should they all listen to the tongue and see if it comes to their ears as a language they understand, or should they listen to the tongue and then pause to ask God what was said? If both, what is the most common way you see it done? If it was the latter way, how do you protect against you yourself or someone else simply coming up with something that sounds good from their own mind as the interpretation? Thanks!
I’ve interpreted tongues once in my life. I personally heard a voice which seemed to be interpreting what was being said and I repeated what that voice said. A friend of mine said for him it’s like hearing the another language you know. So I doubt it’s the same for everyone
I think it can be different for each person. For Daniel, when an unknown language was written on the walls, there were 3 different words that actually was interpreted into 3 complete phrases. So it wasn't a word for word translation like Spanish-english would be. I believe the handwriting on a wall is a good lesson for all regarding how God operates at times!
Super helpful distinction made between practicing in the church service and outside the church service. I had never thought of that-thanks! Same seems to go with prophecy. No other prophets seemed to be around to test Agabus' prophecies. Something I'm still confused on: If the gift of interpretation is a "visiting" gift like healing (I forgot what you called it... not a permanent gift), and you never know whether someone in the church has it at the moment until the tongue is spoken, doesn't that effectively make it impossible to know whether an interpreter is present, and impossible to practice it in the church service? It only makes sense to me if "interpreter" is something like an office or a known gift, or the tongue has to be in someone's native language.
wow... wow.... the last question really klicked it for me. And today I came to the conclusion that, over the years of listening to remnant radio and other good podcast/teachings I would consider myself a charismatic :)
I guess trying to clarify this issue has some value but the real issue Paul was addressing in Corinthians was that the Corinthians were not acting out of love. They were using the gifts to get attention for themselves, out of pride. It’s unfortunate that too many people measure spirituality by the gifts and not by Jesus’ measure which was love for others.
You guys are great in so many ways. You are definitely brothers who love with Christ's love for each other. My favorite videos of Remnant Radio, I'm pretty sure are just of you three only. All of your videos are good for different reasons but the coming together of close brothers is an example to behold and imitate. The humility, wisdom, knowledge, experience,... just love it. I hope to meet you guys one day.
around 24 min where you talk about the vertical nature of tongues is a really important discussion to have. This is how I have experienced tongues and interpretation and was also the exact thing I was thinking of when you read that passage..
I have a question. Is it wrong to quietly pray in tongues at church? Also I had an experience years ago where a group of women did pray over me in tongues at a women’s retreat and it broke demonic activity off my life!! . Also, I’ve been asked to pray over ppl and I have no clue what to pray.. I’ve prayed over them in tongues quietly and the Holy Spirit highlighted to me what to pray for them in English. Is this wrong? I attend an AG church and I was told this is okay.
Could you do a video of what it feels like to have the Holy Spirit working within you, either during prayer, worship, prophecy, preaching, or just like, loving another person. I feel the spirit within me, it's strong and at times overwhelming, and I'm just wondering what it feels like physically for you all. Thanks and God bless
Good stuff! For those who always says it's only known languages, you really need to slow down and re-read 1 cor 14. Paul literally says that no man understands. And, if it was a known language for the purpose of communication to someone present who speaks another language, then you would not need the gift of interpretation.
@@BEABEREAN10 "No one understands" because there was no interpreter in the Corinthian church. The context of the verse you are referring to does not validate unintelligible tongues, in fact, a couple verses later, Paul compares to speaking in tongues with no interpreter as to speaking as a barbarian or an instrument without distinct tones. He also says this... So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. There are, perhaps, a great many kinds of languages in the world, and no kind is without meaning. 1 Corinthians 14:9-10 He says this in the same breath of what you quoted, and only 8 verses later. You can't just take verses out of context and make them mean whatever you want. You have to study the chapter to understand the verses.
@@echoarmadillo580 so you take the "speaking into the air" and do the same thing you accuse me of doing, except for the fact that your interpretation would mean that Paul did not actually mean it when he said that in tongues you speak to God and that build yourself up. You negate this important revelation by your interpretation. In contrast, I think it is clear in vs 9-11 together that Paul means people in general will think you are speaking into to the air, even though you yourself know you are speaking to God and edifying yourself as he already said prior. He even continued in vs 13 and said again, speak in tongues and pray that you would interpret it so the church can be edified, and said that he does it more than all, but that he would always will to speak intelligible words in the gathered assembly to be certain people were taught. He was not degrading tongues like you assume, just only making a point regarding what hearers might think of your tongues if they don't understand. Secondly, I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day, and in all ancient literature, these words are only found in these two Bible verses! It was a completely unknown and new language written. And notice, there are 3 different words written in this unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 4 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences. This is the inscription that was written: mene, mene, tekel, parsin “Here is what these words mean: Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end. Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting. Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians. Please, hear and see that what God is doing m with tongues is not new and different.
My question as it relates to the concept of known human languages vs heavenly/angelic languages that no one understands is this… Isn’t it more likely exegetically that the reason why what they tongues speaker is uttering is a “mystery” and that they’re “speaking to God” and “no one understands” … isn’t it more likely that the reason for that is that the persons present in the congregation just don’t know the language being spoken rather than creating a totally different category of tongues speaking? Especially since the tongues of angels thing isn’t definitive. Idk I’ve never found the argument for a separate category of tongues to be very persuasive. It seems much more natural to the context of 1 Corinthians 14 that we’re still talking about known human languages. Especially since later down in the passage in the Isaiah quote .. human languages were in view there. And then after that where it says “there are many different languages in the world and none of them is without meaning”… that in the world there… idk when I hear schreiner especially make the case for known human languages, it’s very strong and persuasive versus the “separate category view” .. What do you guys think? P.S. I’m a continuationist
In think we can be certain that practicing rapid gibberish of American consonant-vowel combinations is NOT at all what was happening in Acts 2 or commended in 1 Cor. 13-14. You raise a good question.
@@chaddonal4331 I wouldn't be so sure. I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language completely unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day of all ancient literature, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 3 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences. This is the inscription that was written: mene, mene, tekel, parsin “Here is what these words mean: Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end. Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting. Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
Hi there, guys. Love your channel! A question: it seems the issue is confusion to unbelievers and not simply a corporate setting. Would it be OK for instance for a group of believers (insiders not outsiders as I think that the early church had these kind of "closed " meeting ie. love feasts and the Lord's Supper as well as public meetings where everybody was invited and welcomed to come together and pray and worship together, where everybody has some form of understanding of praying tongues and in the spirit and singing in the spirit and that is speaking and singing to God, and that it is for edification of self and that that communication and edification of self could /should lead to also receiving direction/unction/word from God. for instance, if people are encouraged to pray corporately out loud, communicating with God, one is not really able to hear everything that everyone else is praying and that might also be very confusing to people that are not accustomed to this practice. Conversely, I have personally experienced in a meeting of believers that have received this gift to pray in the spirit that one is able to pray in the spirit and be fully able to hear what is being prayed in the understanding of a believer in the group. Something that is virtually impossible to do if everyone is praying out loud with their understanding. would love to hear your thoughts on this.
I find frequently people who "pray in tongues" pretty much repeat the same 2 or 3 syllables in quick repetition. Is this a legit form of tongues? (I'm a continuationist but at the same time I realize that just because people call something _______ doesn't necessarily mean it is __________. So far no one has interpreted.) In a small prayer gathering in a church without visitors I'm like "okay whatever" but they're not afraid to do this out in public while prayer walking (loudly). I'm much more hesitant about practicing that. That seems to open up the door for God to be profaned instead of celebrated or worshiped by on-lookers.
I have wondered the same thing about those who only speak 2 or 3 syllables. On the optimistic side, they're saying"praise God" over and over in tongues; on the pessimistic side they are not saying anything, just making noise. I hate to say this but a lot of the times that I have seen tongues being spoken I strongly suspect that it is fake. I don't want to believe this, and I sure am not the one who can tell whether it is true or not, it's just a bad feeling I have inside. I would love to see true tongues spoken and a true interpretation. That would make me so happy
To the video hosts who speak in tongues: Do you yourselves understand what it is you are saying in tongues either before you speak or while you speak? If not, are you totally surprised later as to what you actually said when someone else interprets/translates whatever you said? I ask this question sincerely since I don't speak in tongues myself and because when I speak English, my native language, I always set out to speak in accordance with my own prior thoughts and so I'm always aware in advance of what I intend to say as I say it. THANKS!
Michael you mentioned that in Acts 2 those impacted by the Spirit, and speaking in tongues, were speaking in human languages because people from various locations understood them. What is your view on this? Peter says these men are not drunk as you might suppose, for it is only 9 in the morning. Now if a Japanese man walked into Covent Garden in London and heard another man speaking Japanese , and the man was English in his appearance, the Japanese man might be astonished that an Englishman had such a great command of Japanese, but he would probably not consider him to be drunk, just well educated. Therefor it seems to me that the tongues speakers in Acts 2 are speaking an angelic tongue (they sound drunk to visitors), nevertheless some (or many, or all) hear them in their own language, which, since the Holy Spirit is powerfully present, is in fact mass spiritual gifting for the interpretation of an angelic tongue.
... and since thousands came to faith that day, and faith is itself a spiritual gift, the prior gifting of interpretation shows the spirit already at work.
This I like! Add this one to your study too! I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, these required a gift to be interpreted, and these 4 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences. This is the inscription that was written: mene, mene, tekel, parsin “Here is what these words mean: Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end. Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting. Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
@@BEABEREAN10 On the subject of “the Angelic tongue” is a real language, I was in a home group once, and we rarely prayed together in tongues but on one occasion we were all sat in silent prayer then myself and one other guy started praying in tongues at the same time, and our first six words were the same. Curious! I remember being pretty surprised, it was quite affirming of each other.
There are three different occurrences in the New Testament regarding tongues. The first was on the day of Pentecost where the people heard in their own language. A representation of everyone would here the gospel. Then there is an tongue that comes forth in a congregation and then either the giver of tongues or someone else interprets the tongue and this always edifies the body of believers. If you are used to hearing tongues, you will immediately recognize this type of tongue. Then their is the private prayer language that is used to edify the individual believer. If God can confuse languages at the Tower of Babel, then he certainly can have a prayer language that is spoken to Him and it’s by the Spirit and you are participating in praying the will of God.
Once I had a dream that one of my spiritual mentors was praying over me…at first I couldn’t understand what he was saying….I think he was speaking Italian (not a language he or I speak in the natural). All of a sudden my ears opened and I could understand what he was saying in English….and he said “let the combination of earth and water have their effect.” Any ideas??
Note: Scripture is at the end.The word of God instructs us to sing spiritual songs and we are to lift eachother up as we celebrate and praise the Lord. I believe if the Holy Spirit is moving in a corporate gathering, the worship leader does not have to instruct everyone to sing in the spirit. Everything we do unto and by the Lird should be natural. Anything a part from Him is manufacturing His presence. While in worship we engage in heaven while on earth and that should be an everyday natural thing...including corporate gatherings. We are set a part as a holy nation and peculiar people bringing forth praise at all times. So of course when a non believer comes into a corporate worship setting, it will seem awkward because they are of the world. Only God can grow a person into understanding His ways. He calls us to Him and we have free will to gain understanding.Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
Wait, so you can speak the same tongues more than once? Like if you're going to present the tongues that you spoke before to the church? How would you remember how to say them? Are you able to remember how the tongues sounded or does the holy spirit cause it?
One thing I'm curious about, is why interpretations are always done in the interpreters language, even if there's other native tongues in the church? Can it be a legit interpretation from God and only being one language if there's multiple languages in the church? If someone speaks in tongues, and I interpret in English, but there's spanish-speaking people there, to the Spanish speaking folks, I'm still speaking in tongues because they may not understand it.
Are there Christians who believe and practice the continuation of the Gifts that don’t go to Charismatic/Pentecostal Churches? And do these churches accept their doctrine? Just curious as a Newborn Christian here. Wasn’t sure if it was only Denomination based.
I am charismatic. I don’t go to the churches with Kingdom Now or Dominion theology regarding end times. I don’t go to heavily NAR infiltration. I go to Methodist and constantly Miss the move of the Spirit.
@@meggy8868 the ultimate thing would be to combine good theology from the more conservative churches and holy spirit moving as we see more often in the charismatic churches. I would love to go to a church like that. The last church I went to never talked about the gifts of the Spirit or anything like that. They definitely believed in the Holy Spirit, they just didn't ever talk about the gifts. I would love for somebody to train me in the gift of discernment of Spirits because I've never met someone that has that gift
Chapter 12 verse 7 of 1 Corinthians says the manifestation of the spirit is given for the common good. Too many people “use” the gift for their own good. It is an ancillary issue though. God wants us to be busy making disciples.
Actually, Mary Ellen is not mistaken. I’ve heard that warfare in the natural can be 90% boredom and 10% shear terror. Most, if not all of the time, tongues in private prayer can seem like nothing is going on. But there can be moments where you step into something akin to a fight, or wrestling.
@@mreyno9646 Yes. Sometimes I use them while doing deliverance and demons hate them. I’ve been doing deliverance since 1992 and there is very little I haven’t seen. Since I give the demons ground rules, the sessions are peaceful and anointed
2 questions: 1. How are we telling the accuracy of the interpretation? How can we verify especially if there’s only one interpreter present? 2. How are tongues not a sign to a unbeliever, when it literally says in 1 Corinthians 14:22, “Tongues then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbeliever’s “. Also practically speaking if believer speaks a tongue that unbeliever knows that believer didn’t previously know would that not qualify as a sign? Love to gain some clarification on this, thanks and God Bless
Tongues ended around the end of the first century. When the written word was completed, there was no more need for tongues. The gifts were given by the laying on of hands, Acts 8.
So you’re essentially saying they’re lying eh. Who laid their hands on the 120 people in the upper room.? God did and seeing as He’s still around it’s safe to say He can still give the gifts of the Spirit. The Spirit gives them as He wills.
@aaronbruce5394 That is ignorance. No one laid hands on 120. God never laid hands on anyone. It is not until Acts 8 that hands are explicitly sad to be laid on. ONLY the apostles ever lay hands on anyone. Where is a verse for one claim you made?
It seems that you are saying the first PUBLIC speaking of tongues by the disciples WAS spoken to unbelievers, who questioned if the disciples were drunk- and ultimately that was edification of the church as the unbelievers were saved and baptized becoming part of the body. But the initial speaking was in the presence of unbelievers.
That wasn't in a church setting though. And those people were Jews hearing the apostles testify about Christ and His resurrection. I think the context of the tongues is different so you can't really make a fair comparison.
Y’all are great 😂 Michael’s question at the end killed me lol It’s supposed to edify the church! I think today it’s just so heavily misused and people use Tongues without interpretation to perhaps lift them up as more spiritual. Especially shabalabbing on stage directly into the mic 🤦♂️
Of course gifts exist today, the Bible says so. Just a basic thought on the first 10 minutes here, it appears you have built your own presuppositions on the gift of Tongues and the evidence or personal tongue in Acts and other places. The git of tongues in 1 Corinthians 12 is for the edifying of the body and Paul is clear that Tongues are for edifying the person who speaks. Tongues only edifies the body or another person in the body, not just a group in the body, when there is an interpretation in chapter 12. We do not see this anywhere in the book of Acts. And each time in Acts every single person spoke in Tongues not just the person God chose to speak to edify the body. You are Charismatics without healthy roots in Pentecost, and you thing acknowledging some wrong doctrine in some Pentecostal circles, as is in All others, that you can ignore the strengths God has give those who believe the Bible about Tongues. Obviously if there was ONLY the gift of Tongues as mentioned in chapter 12 then only a hand full of people would benefit from being edified by the Holy Spirit praying secrets and wisdom to God. You have serious root issues about Tongues, yet people are listening to you. Paul alludes to the personal use of Tongues and that it is for everyone, I wish all pray in Tongues, in chapter 14, but his main topic is correcting the Corinthians who fell behind in NO gift on how gifts listed in chapter 12 should be used in a public time of TEACHING/PREACHING.
I want to comment on edification of prophecy and tongues/interpretation of tongues. We have a creator who sacrificed His son so He could have a relationship with us. He wants to communicate in 'real' time to encourage us. Prophecy and tongues are personal, the scriptures are more corporate. When God gives me a message right now, that shows me His great love and concern for me. If you thank all your listeners on your program, you aren't speaking to me. If you take the time to answer this comment, I know you took the time to read my comment, think about it, and reply to only me, individually.
Has anyone had it recorded when they spoke in tongues and someone recognized it as their language? I would guess that they were not speaking the language but the person understood.
Not recorded, but years ago I was at a men’s prayer meeting in Germany while I was stationed there w USAF. We were all praying in tongues quietly and then one of the brothers began laughing out loud….naturally we stopped and asked him why he was laughing…he said, “Brother, do you want to know what you (myself) were saying in the Spirit?” “Yes, what?” I said. “You kept saying, God is good, God is good, God is good!” This brother was a Russian linguist for the USAF! I can testify that I knew not a lick of Russian! It blessed us all! Like a mini demonstration of Pentecost. It wasn’t the speaking so much that was supernatural, it was what was BEING SAID. Glory to God. How we need some good old fashioned teaching on this subject!
The whole tongues argument in my opinion from what I understand about the scriptures starts with a presupposition that the word tongue and its definition as given by the Strong's is allowed to mean something else. Where else do we take the definitions that are given to us and add another meaning to it in the scriptures? 1. the tongue, a member of the body, an organ of speech 2.a tongue the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other nations,
Interpretation of tongues was demonstrated on Pentecost when ALL the people heard the words of the apostles in their own languages. It only requires reading what the Holy Spirit revealed through Paul in his letter to the Corinthians. But then again, the RCC and the Reformers had their own agendas and weren't about to pay attention to any wisdom given from above. That's WHY false doctrine is prevalent in almost all denominations today. Jesus still asks, "Why do you call me Lord, Lord and do not do what I say?"
52:40 kinda bashing wimber a little bit but it clearly says "all may prophesy" so giving ppl the opportunity to do so clearly cannot be considered unbiblical. It sounds like wimber cleaned it up immediately if there was any problems
In first Corinthians when it says speak in the tongue of man and angel people assume the tongue of angels is heavenly and no one understands it. Three centuries before Christ and for centuries after Christ we have writings that show the thought that the primordial language was Hebrew. What that means is an angel taught Adam how to speak Hebrew. At the tower of babel they all spoke Hebrew. Abraham continue to speak Hebrew. So the tongue of angels is Hebrew. The tongue of man is all other languages. I believe context matters. Not just what’s written but also what’s in the culture around them at the time it is written. So why what I just said matters. Interpretation of tongues is actually interpretation of a worldly language. The babbling in my opinion is not the gift of tongues. Just because someone says the thoughts you have in your head and the babbling you can do go together and that equals tongues does not make it tongues. It makes it not a miracle to anyone. There’s no apologetic you can give for that. It would convert no one. There’s no miracle in it so no one is blown away and says oh wow that’s amazing God is real. Instead they just hear babbling and have to take your word on it that that actually is from God.
I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language completely unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day of all ancient literature, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 3 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences. This is the inscription that was written: mene, mene, tekel, parsin “Here is what these words mean: Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end. Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting. Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
I don't understand how people can pray in tongues at will? Is it like a spiritual muscle that you learn how to use and then you can use it whenever you want to? I would think the Holy Spirit would have to cause it to happen each and every time, but people seem to use it just as they use English
It bothers me when one of the people on your show stated…Fake Gift of Tongues. Please don’t say this because this subject is a tough one as it it. I’m not upset it’s just that while many are seeking to understand this subject, it’s not a joking matter. God bless and thanks for your channel
Speaking in tongue’s is speaking in actual known languages. The translation is of the actual language of someone who is there who may be an unbeliever of a different nationality. And I believe that could happen, but what we’re doing in our churches ain’t it..
So what language do angels speak? Or another question, why does Paul tell the Corinthians that when he speaks in tongues that no man understands. Why does he specifically call them unknown tongues? And finally, if the tongues were real languages used to communicate the gospel message, then why would we even need a gift to interpret them? Wouldn't the hearer who needs that message be able to comprehend with the gift of interpretation?
@@BEABEREAN10 “What language do angels speak?” It seems that scripturally they speak whatever language the recipient of the message speaks. How else would they communicate with OT figures like Abraham or Moses without speaking Hebrew and then also communicate with NT figures in Greek or Aramaic. The same way God can communicate with believers of all languages. “Why does Paul tell the Corinthians that when he speaks in tongues no man understands?” This is assuming that the tongues in question are some unknown language (which goes to your next question), however if the tongues are of the same nature as what we see at Pentecost than they would be known languages. Imagine that Paul is speaking in tongues to a group of Hebrew speaking and Greek speaking people, but the tongue that Paul is speaking is another language like Chinese, in that scenario nobody would understand what he is saying. “Why does he specifically call them unknown tongues?” He doesn’t. “Unknown” tongues is not found in any of the original manuscripts for 1 Cor 14. If you look at modern translations like ESV or NASB you will see that they redact the word “unknown” since it is not in the original text. “If the tongues were real language used to communicate the gospel why would we need an interpreter” Simply put if someone is speaking in a foreign language wether a real language or a spiritual language it would have to be interpreted if the audience does not speak that language.
@@UncensoredChristian good input I appreciate it! My quest though still stands, even when you remove the word "unknown" the text still says that the tongues Paul is talking about is not for man, and it says no one understands him. 1 Corinthians 14:2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. Notice Paul even says they are mysteries. This seems pretty unknown to me. I am not in any way saying tongues is ONLY unknown, but to say that they always have to be known languages is dishonest. When Paul says no one understands, that's what he means. Also to say that because angels communicate to men in man's own language means that they don't have their own heavenly language is a fallacy. If I know multiple natural languages and you hear me speaking to someone in Spanish, you can't simply assume I don't also communicate to my family and friends in English. It just happens to be what you hear at that time. Also, I agree that if God gave me the ability to speak Chinese to a congregation of people who don't speak Chinese, then the gift of interpretation would be needed. But, again, there are people in the world that understand Chinese, so why would Paul say no one understands and that it's communication between you and God. In summary, between Acts and Corinthians, I see the Bible teaching two kinds of tongue's. Known tongues to minister to men, and unknown, mysterious tongues that ministers to God, but can be interpreted to bring edification to the body of Christ. Let me know you thoughts! 😃
@@BEABEREAN10 Thanks for the response! As far as I can tell you are equivocating the idea of tongues not being spoken to men and tongues not being for man. 1 Corinthians 14 never says that the tongues are “not for man” as if they are impossible for any human to understand. Rather in the context Paul is writing about that tongue is for communication between the individual and God. This doesn’t mean that speaking in tongues is only done to speak to God because Paul tells them later in v5 that it’s possible for another person to interpret the tongues. I agree, the tongues would be mysteries especially if the language being uttered is foreign to you. If someone was speaking to me in Chinese it would all be mysterious and unknown to me regardless of if they are speaking in the Spirit that’s why Paul says that the tongues would be mysterious to a bystander unless an interpreter was present. “But to say that they always have to be known languages is dishonest. When Paul says no one understands, that’s what he means.” I disagree that it is dishonest. It seems fair to understand tongues as being human languages that most people don’t speak. After all that is the example we see play out in Acts 2. Let me be clear, I never stated that angels do or don’t have their own language that they communicate. I simply stated that in every instance in scripture that God/angels speak to man it appears that it is done in a human language. The problem is when we try to assume/force some unknown angelic language onto the meaning of “tongues” when the use of “tongues” in places like Acts refers to human languages. “There are many people in the world that understand Chinese, so why would Paul say no one understands and that it’s communication between you and God” Because if you are speaking in a language that is unknown to the audience then the only one who would understand would be God. Paul points out the importance of speaking in a tongue that is either understandable or interpretable in 1 Cor 14:9-11. Once again if “no one understands” the tongue then it would be foolish for Paul to expect that it’s possible to have an interpreter. Now to be clear I’m not claiming that the spirit has no influence here. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for someone who only knows one language to be able to interpret another language through the power of the Holy Spirit. Anyways I’m curious to hear your thoughts!
@@UncensoredChristian good stuff here! Keeps me on my toes! I think you may have missed the point I made about there being two kinds of tongues mentioned in the bible. There is the supernatural mysterious tongues that is between you and God but could also be interpreted by a gift of the spirit to bring edification to the whole body. This kind is often where it would be seen as tongues of angels since no man understands it except God, but not limited to that either as it could be a natural language. And then there is the 2nd kind of tongue like we see in Acts 2 which is known human language's given supernaturally to minister to people. I think the Bible is very clear about these two kinds of tongues. I do find it a bit interesting that you say "if no one understands then it's foolish for Paul to expect that it's possible have an interpreter"...this is disheartening because you assume that the holy spirit would not be able to give someone an interpretation of a language no one understands. But please do this for yourself, pretend for a minute you believe there is a language of heaven that men don't know, now why couldn't the HS give us this language AND also give us the gift to interpret this language? Do you really think that's not possible? It seems to me this would be the exact reason we would need a GIFT to interpret the tongue is because no man can understand it. Secondly, I think you are wrongly equating the words translation and interpretation here. Paul says there is a spiritual gift of interpretation, as the Spirit wills. Interpretation=overall message Translation= word for word - in acts 2, they didn't need the gift of interpretation by the spirit to know what was being said because they knew the language and could translate it back to others word for word. The tongues were supernatural, the hearing and translation was not. This is different from the example in 1 cor 14 where Paul says to pray that you'd interpret it since he realizes that there is no one present to translate it naturally, so it requires a gift so you can gather the overall message of the mysterious language to edify the body. Again, this could be a natural language and no one who speaks it is present, but I don't think it's an accident that Paul mentioned tongues of angels in this same context of spiritual gifts. Again, thoughts are appreciated! I love this stuff!
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At 20:52 you mention 1 Corinthians 14, do you believe everything Paul says in this chapter falls under his statement in verse 37? Or do you cherrie pick this chapter? I find it interesting that you have three guys who all believe the same thing on this subject talking about something that can easily be challenged by others, if your Chanel is about finding the truth in God's Word then I think you should be wiling to have an opposing view join the conversation, unless your scared to loose patrons and viewership, In which case this program is not after the truth. You should ask Chris Rosebrough to join you.
You can speak in tongues, to show or manifest the anointing of the Holy Spirit. There is a relationship between the presence and power of the person of the Holy Spirit and his gifts. If we speak in tongues as a believer, we are allowing the Holy Spirit to speak through us to the Father and the Son. We are participating in the Body of Christ. We are speaking languages gifted to us by the Holy Spirit. This is not even realized by most believers. Interpretation in tongues comes the same way that prophecy comes. The Holy Spirit shows the meaning to the mind of the believer or provides a realization or revelation of it. This can be the result of the believer listening to the message in tongues in the church and praying, "Lord, if you are willing provide me the interpretation". Why not just prophecy if the goal is to communicate a message that is understood? There are a couple of reasons why tongues is a separate gift. The Holy Spirit may want to perfect praise through the believer. Using human languages this might not be possible. To this I would say it is a correct rendering of Matthew 21:16. Yes Jesus used it in a different context but the conviction he gives me is it is totally appropriate in terms of an expression of tongues. Tongues can be a prayer and following on Romans 8:26. It can of course also be a message to the church when accompanied by interpretation. In relation to not everyone has the gift of tongues, this is sometimes forwarded as an excuse for not speaking in tongues ie "not everyone has to", but tongues is available to everyone through the baptism in the Holy Spirit. Jesus wants everyone to be baptised in the Holy Spirit just as much if not more than he wants us to follow him and identify with him through baptism in water. Being baptised in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues is a matter of obedience to the Lord. Tongues as a message to the church is not the same as this though. Not everyone can give a message in tongues and interpretation. In church speaking in tongues is different from your personal prayer language which you can exercise following the baptism in the Holy Spirit. I deal with some of these issues in my videos on my channel.
Tongues in a church has more of a cadence and phrases to it than personal tongues. It is more in the form of a message. It is the Holy Spirit speaking to the Church. If you want the interpretation of a message in tongues you need to firstly ask the Lord for it. He will give it if you are bold, full of faith and ready to step out and begin. The Lord wants to speak to us more than we want to hear from him. You can ask the Lord for the message in tongues AND the interpretation. Like a prophecy, as you begin, trusting the Lord to take what you are offering him in your beginning in faith and boldness, you will find the Holy Spirit can meet you there and take what you begin with and give you a revelation. Receiving a revelation from the Lord is an amazing experience. God will also give you the interpretation if you ask as you should be ready to give the interpretation if no one else starts out. Again you are concerned to show the Lord, to give what he gives you and only what and as he gives it to you. Personal tongues isn't a message to people and therefore might not have this form. A revelation comes as a spontaneous and unfolding realization provided by the Holy Spirit. Then there is the opportunity if you ask God for the interpretation and someone else gives the interpretation it is very edifying when the interpretation they give is the same interpretation that you received by revelation of the Holy Spirit. This is the ministry of confirmation which you can also participate in as a believer. The same ministry of confirmation applies to prophecy.
Is there any spiritual gift that was meant for personal edification? I do not see any evidence of that. It would seem to me that any gift was always meant for the edification of the church. The word for tongues in Greek is glossa and there's nothing that suggest it was anything other than an earthly language. When it comes to the language of angels, all interactions people had in the bible with angels appear to involve use of earthly language. I do not see anywhere where the spiritual gift is used for personal benefit. What am I missing?
1 cor 14 and Jude 20 literally says praying is the spirit is for self edification. Secondly, I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language completely unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day of all ancient literature, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 3 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences. This is the inscription that was written: mene, mene, tekel, parsin “Here is what these words mean: Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end. Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting. Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
There’s no such thing as a Tongue of Angels man.. read the scripture again my guys. Paul was being hyperbolic. If you know that In Acts 2 it was known languages that they where speaking why do we have to insist that this is something we need to be practicing? It’s God that distributes this gift according to the need. I think That advent of Pentecostalism and Charismatic Movement over inflated something that has been historically understood within the Church.. I am not a Secessionist but, I can actually say that this Gift was unique to the fist century church or the early church because of the walls of geography made it hard for people to understand languages… Today we have Google translate. Some guy in my church was speaking in tongues and the dude next to him was translating and they were no unbelievers there. Completely out of order man.
There may not be a tongue of angels, but there very well could be as well right? We don't actually know for sure. But one thing for sure is that Paul actually talks about an unknown tongue that when he prays, no man understands. So if we say that all tongues should be known languages, then Paul is contradicting this rule. Not to mention, if they are always known languages used to speak to others present who speak another language, then why would we even need a gift of interpretation? It seems to me, the interpretation gift is specifically for the time when unknown tongues are being spoken. This could be angelic language as Paul alludes to, but again we cannot be 100% sure. But Paul is clear it's not always human languages, don't you agree?
@@BEABEREAN10 Acts records that the people gathered on that day were Jews and proselytes that were dispersed Jews who had gathered in Jerusalem for Pentecost.The focus wasn’t the language although they spoke in different languages. What amazed them was…..each one of them was hearing them speaking in his own language. What were they speaking? The mighty deeds of God. There were two responses. Some were curious and I believe were prepared to hear the word preached. The others mocked. Open ears to hear.
@@rosehammer9482 I fully agree with that! I am not saying that tongues are never a known language, there are clear times in the bible and modern history that shows that example. BUT...as we see by Paul's teaching in 1 cor 14, there is a second kind of tongues called unknown tongues that is between you and God and would require a gift to interpret. I believe in the two kinds that are seen in scripture, it seems most are only okay with the kind that is the known language examples in Acts, and they ignore Paul's further teaching in Corinthians.
@@BEABEREAN10 I agree. Many pray in tongues. My concern is the over Emphasis on this gift. Personally I would rather hear people prophesying in the sense of speaking the mighty works of God. God bless
@@loribothwell5493 I know about people talking in demonic tongues… it’s scary!! I was saying Satan has a counterfeit to the real gifts. Sorry if I came across the wrong way.
God DID speak to man in an in an unknown, non earthly language...consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language completely unknown to man! These words given were not Hebrew or Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day of all ancient literature, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 3 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences. This is the inscription that was written: mene, mene, tekel, parsin “Here is what these words mean: Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end. Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting. Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians. Tongues and interpretation is real! And it is not required to only be known human languages nor a word for word translation, that's why it's called gift of interpretation.
@@FOG_3 5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified. 6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? 7 Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the pipe or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8 Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9 So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. 10 Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me. 12 So it is with you.
@@ChipsAplentyBand are you for tongues or not? Paul evidently was. Prophecy is better for the congregation and tongues for personal edification (unless interpreted) And the Interpretation may or may not be translated (word for word) or interpreted as to the meaning of the spoken word...hope that helps. I'm just a pilgrim like you seeking truth
It is not possible to figure this "gift" out without the right approach to 1 Cor. 14 . NONE!!!!! You will be having this same conversation 20 years from now with the same misgivings and confusion as you have now. Just curious would you guys consider debating me on this one? I am cessationist ➕️. But can prove it.
A lady from my church heard a couple at the mall speaking a language that sounded similar to when she speaks in tongues. She asked the strangers at the mall what language they were speaking and they said “Hebrew!”. So, she spoke in tongues out loud to them asking if they understood her and they said, “Yes, you’re praying for your mother!”
That’s miraculous.
1 Corinthians 14:26-27. This sounds like a Biblically accurate form of speaking in tongues. Very cool to see in modern society if it really happened.
Well I think it actually did and I’m sure he can verify it. This isn’t an isolated case either since God is sovereignly doing as He pleases through His vessels all the time.
My brother spoke in tongues over someone at his church and the guy said," You speak Welsh?" My brother answered that he didn't know Welsh. The guy was from Wales and said my brother was speaking to him in his native tongue. That was supernatural.
Yup a known language exactly what tongues is
Wow! Super cool!
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@@anthonycrane1860 The question is what does those gifts look like so you can identify them
That would indeed seem like a word from the Lord.
Did your brother have an intentional message known to him? (as in Acts 2, where they knew what they were saying and praising, but we're speaking in tongues unknown to them, while heard by others in their own languages).
I was an a mission trip to Poland many years ago. When we prayed together in tongues with the Polish believers. One of them recognized that I prayed in Polish, and he gave me the interpretation. It was a great word of encouragement to me.
Before someone recognized the language, did you think you were just speaking gibberish/heavenly language? I don't say that in disdain, but I ask because I know some people struggle and believe their tongues is not real until something like that happens.
While in Bible class my pastor was praying in tongues. I heard very clear in my mind he was quoting Isaiah 61. After I told him, he explain he and his son were praying Isaiah 61 that morning. I then gave him a word that pertained to valentine signature candy and God calling him to intimacy and he explained his favorite candy is love signature candy.
Be careful not to limit the power of God. I sometimes hear what people are praying in the spirit in English and a lot is scripture. I do not know my pastor at a personal level.
I was just teaching on this on Monday. In our denomination it’s usually like prophecy where the interpreter who would stand and say what is being said and the speaker and interpreter would go back and forth just as you see interpreters do in “real life”, those interpretations are weighed as would any prophecy. There is also a lot of worship interpretation. I’ve had a girl would got saved, few moments later spoke in tongues and another lady who got saved the week prior interpreted, the message was God encouraging us to continue evangelising and saying how much people were being helped by our ministry. And then more people got saved because of what they saw. So you find a lot of encouragement and comforting also. That’s what really cemented my belief in these gifts.
It’s very similar is my experience as well. Most often it’s a back and forth between a couple of people where it’s almost a prophecy or encouragement/instruction from the Lord about something.
The dilemma is in a public setting such as Sunday mornings is how does one know if there is an interpretater presence.
The way i read it is if a tongue is given and no one interpretates then no more tongues.
You guys did a great job.
I believe that speaking in tongues in a corporate setting is allowed in certain applications (when non believers aren’t present).
The context in 1 Cor 14 is about a clear message being portrayed to the church for edification. If the person leading the prayer meeting for example asks everyone to pray in tongues for 1 minute, that is not going against what Paul said. If the speaker were to speak in tongues, and not have an interpretation, then that’s going against ch14.
But if the whole congregation knows that it’s time to pray in tongues, there is no confusion there because everyone knows what’s going on and that isn’t a violation of ch 14
I frequently listen to a word of faith church online where the pastor is teaching (from the Bible) and frequently, the Holy Spirit will, thru a church member, interrupt and give and share his love and direction regarding the message. There is always an interpreter, and it always edifies the church and lets the church know that not only God is there but he’s listening. It’s wonderful. I wish I had the gift of interpretation, but I don’t. I’ve prayed for it, but I should probably pray more in tongues myself before I receive that gift.
I would love to listen to this type of sermon. What is the church pleaae?
I have while praying in tongues with someone had them recognize words that they actually knew from their language.
I would say there are diverse kinds of tongues- initial evidence of the baptism of the Spirit, praying in tongues, and tongues & interpretation.
I love all of these gifts. I’m grateful for all of them operating in the church.
Before someone recognized the language, did you think you were just speaking gibberish/heavenly language? I don't say that in disdain, but I ask because I know some people struggle and believe their tongues is not real until something like that happens.
@@BEABEREAN10 I have always felt like tongues were a real language based off of Scripture. Whether it be the language of angels or of men it is still real language that is being used. I have faith that when the Holy Ghost moves on me He is using real language. I have experienced doubts around this before and these experiences did help however. I think I would still be Pentecostal even without these experiences of having people know what I was saying- but it’s definitely been a thing that has helped me keep going.
What is the interpretation for shabalabalaba? 6:27
I think it’s “Look at me pray in tongues”
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I just want to encourage those asking "Why? Why do we need these if we have the scriptures?" The gifts give specificity to our lives in a way that scripture sometimes does not. The gifts help us to live more intimately with God (and often woth others). The gifts give us the privilege of participating in what God is doing beyond what we can do in the natural. Even an uninterpreted tongue in your bedroom is a participation in the work that God is doing to bring glory to Himself. The gifts are a gift!
I'm a very recent former cessationist, as in I began investigating spiritual gifts last summer, and didn't fully believe in them until earlier this year. The funny thing was I've had the gift of tongues for at least 5 years and was in denial. When I started studying spiritual gifts I was still under the impression that all tongues are a human language (not sure what I think now), so to "test" that I really had the gift I started Googling the syllables I was saying to the best of my ability (which wasn't great lol), BUT what I usually ended up getting was that the fragments I could get a translation for were praise or prayer, and they were usually in Urdu/Punjabi or possibly Hebrew. - Has anyone else had this interpretation experience or is it just me? lol - Anyhow, all this to say I'm encouraged to hear that tongues are usually interpreted as prayer!!
Also, on the question of "Why do we need tongues to (or another spiritual gift for that matter) edify?", it's been my experience that that's God participating with us and living within His church. Maybe that's partially what is meant by being "partakers of the divine nature." Before believing the gifts still exist today, I didn't feel or understand in what ways we were truly connected to God. He was in Heaven and He had given us this Book to live by, and one day we would be with Him that was all.
I think tongues can be the "scariest" of the gifts to non-believers or cessationists, etc. It's weird when you first see it and hear it and if you haven't been taught about it, it makes no sense. Understandable that you were hesitant to embrace it. BUT so glad you didn't ignore it!
@@rebeccacline1433 Wow, yes! You sound like me. I was a cessationist and also started investigating the gifts last summer. I also was trying to google syllables as well. lol
@@kaitlyn8515 That's fantastic! Yay!!! Lol
A helpful take-away for me from this conversation is the idea of delineating between a public space where uninformed/unbelieving people are present and a space where everyone present is mature in the gifts. I will have to think about this more. I am a pastor in the Foursquare Church and grew up in Foursquare. It is common during conferences, camps, etc. that the whole room is encouraged to pray in tongues if they have this gift. But as I've studied scripture I've become convicted that the practice of praying in tongues out loud in a group setting, is (at best) unwise and unhelpful, if not totally unbiblical. So for years, when in these settings, I've prayed in tongues but kept my voice low so that others couldn't hear. But I hadn't considered that perhaps at a pastors conference setting, where everyone present is mature and informed in the gifts, it may not be inappropriate to pray this way corporately. Still considering this, and open to feedback.
I am part of a non-denominational charismatic church and we definitely flow in this way. We call them believers meetings...They are technically open to the public as are all of our services, yet they are focused on the training and equipping of believers to continue the work of Christ. These are the times when we pray corporately in tongues because people under what is going on, they are learned. I have even seen it happen on a Sunday morning as well, but maybe 3 times in ten years and only when the pastor knows there aren't visitors present.
If no unbelievers or unlearned are present, it is not out of order. If an unbeliever or unlearned is present, God will be faithful to supply the interpretation of the people are willing to cooperate with what the Bible says and not act on their own accord. I understand how you’ve felt on this to and have be relearning what I just stated after looking at the text again and again.
WHAT WAS THE PROBLEMATIC PRACTICE OF SPEAKING IN TONGUES AT CORINTH IN 1 COR 14?
23 If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all, 25 the secrets of his heart are disclosed, and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you.
When I was a new Christian, someone told me that speaking in tongues without interpretation would drive people away from the gospel. "It is madness to them," I was told. I was confused and wanting to do the right thing, I stopped worshipping God in tongues during the corporate worship part of the service. I so wanted to live a life pleasing to God. Then in seminary, I asked a godly scholar, about this passage. He unpacked this for me in way that left me speechless. The answer was so obvious, yet I missed it.
The context is "the whole church comes together." (v. 23) So, we're talking about practice in community worship and fellowship. Look at the parallel structure.
If.......all speak in tongues (v. 23)
But if all prophesy.....(v. 24)
Whatever the practice, it was the same for tongues and prophecy. The "all" practice can only be "ALL AT THE SAME TIME" or "ALL IN SUCCESSION." There are no other options. But if it is talking about all at the same time, prophecy would be just as confusing and disorderly as tongues. Think of the whole congregation all reading from a different portion of Scripture at the same time. This would be just as unedifying to the mind as all praying in tongues at the same time. So, this passage clearly does NOT address the problem of all speaking at once. Now, let's consider all in succession. If this practice refers to both gifts, the passage makes sense. Imagine a service in which each person stands, speaks in tongues without interpretation, and sits down! Indeed, unbelievers or ungifted attendees would think they are crazy--UNLESS THEY ALSO INTERPRET. (1 Cor 14: 14-19) All prophesying in succession would make perfect sense of the passage.
So, what does 1 Corinthians say about a congregation worshipping God in tongues. Nothing. The Scripture doesn't address the issue. People worshipping are not addressing the congregation but God. I've been in non-English speaking congregations in which everyone has hands raised and is praising God in Chinese, Tagalog, Spanish, and tongues. I was not confused. I don't think they are mad. Their words don't need interpreted. They are not talking to me, teaching me, or addressing me; they are addressing God. The principle that applies is 1 Cor 14:39-40, "So, my brothers, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. But let all things be done decently and in order." Someone yelling at the top of his or her voice every week during worship in tongues or prophecy or constantly interrupting a teaching time with tongues or prophecy might still be out of order. I felt so freed with this clearer understanding of Scripture. If I am worshipping, with my indistinguishable voice blended into the din of praise, no interpretation is needed. I am using the gift in the context of worship and prayer not to address the congregation. The practice stands up to Biblical scrutiny.
@@f5743 amen! We'll studied and beautifully said.
55:35
"If we're going to practice any of the spiritual gifts we also have to practice the rules that accompany their spiritual gifts..."
This is why this channel maintains a credibility!
Though I don't want to be a cessationist, one has to agree with their skepticism.
Nonsense dishonors God... And people that do not esteem and revere God's rules are predetermined reprobate.
This should scare anyone who has this "wild west" perspective.
You guys do an admirable job here in honoring God.
Soli Deo Gloria
I have a question: in you guys experience, does someone with the gift of interpretation actually hear the tongue in a language that they can understand, or does God speak to them separately about what was said. For example, if a group is “practicing” the gift of interpretation, should they all listen to the tongue and see if it comes to their ears as a language they understand, or should they listen to the tongue and then pause to ask God what was said? If both, what is the most common way you see it done? If it was the latter way, how do you protect against you yourself or someone else simply coming up with something that sounds good from their own mind as the interpretation? Thanks!
@remnant radio!
I’ve interpreted tongues once in my life. I personally heard a voice which seemed to be interpreting what was being said and I repeated what that voice said. A friend of mine said for him it’s like hearing the another language you know. So I doubt it’s the same for everyone
I think it can be different for each person. For Daniel, when an unknown language was written on the walls, there were 3 different words that actually was interpreted into 3 complete phrases. So it wasn't a word for word translation like Spanish-english would be. I believe the handwriting on a wall is a good lesson for all regarding how God operates at times!
Super helpful distinction made between practicing in the church service and outside the church service. I had never thought of that-thanks! Same seems to go with prophecy. No other prophets seemed to be around to test Agabus' prophecies.
Something I'm still confused on: If the gift of interpretation is a "visiting" gift like healing (I forgot what you called it... not a permanent gift), and you never know whether someone in the church has it at the moment until the tongue is spoken, doesn't that effectively make it impossible to know whether an interpreter is present, and impossible to practice it in the church service? It only makes sense to me if "interpreter" is something like an office or a known gift, or the tongue has to be in someone's native language.
Really good question! I’d like to hear more about that as well 😊
wow... wow.... the last question really klicked it for me. And today I came to the conclusion that, over the years of listening to remnant radio and other good podcast/teachings I would consider myself a charismatic :)
Thanks for discussing this usually ignored subject
I guess trying to clarify this issue has some value but the real issue Paul was addressing in Corinthians was that the Corinthians were not acting out of love. They were using the gifts to get attention for themselves, out of pride.
It’s unfortunate that too many people measure spirituality by the gifts and not by Jesus’ measure which was love for others.
You guys are great in so many ways. You are definitely brothers who love with Christ's love for each other. My favorite videos of Remnant Radio, I'm pretty sure are just of you three only. All of your videos are good for different reasons but the coming together of close brothers is an example to behold and imitate. The humility, wisdom, knowledge, experience,... just love it. I hope to meet you guys one day.
around 24 min where you talk about the vertical nature of tongues is a really important discussion to have. This is how I have experienced tongues and interpretation and was also the exact thing I was thinking of when you read that passage..
I have a question. Is it wrong to quietly pray in tongues at church? Also I had an experience years ago where a group of women did pray over me in tongues at a women’s retreat and it broke demonic activity off my life!! . Also, I’ve been asked to pray over ppl and I have no clue what to pray.. I’ve prayed over them in tongues quietly and the Holy Spirit highlighted to me what to pray for them in English. Is this wrong? I attend an AG church and I was told this is okay.
1 cor 14 actually says that if no one is around to interpret, to pray quietly to yourself and to God. You're good!
Could you do a video of what it feels like to have the Holy Spirit working within you, either during prayer, worship, prophecy, preaching, or just like, loving another person. I feel the spirit within me, it's strong and at times overwhelming, and I'm just wondering what it feels like physically for you all. Thanks and God bless
Good stuff! For those who always says it's only known languages, you really need to slow down and re-read 1 cor 14. Paul literally says that no man understands. And, if it was a known language for the purpose of communication to someone present who speaks another language, then you would not need the gift of interpretation.
Then I Cor 14 is clearly something different than the praising and hearing happening in Acts 2.
@@chaddonal4331 that would be correct! Two kinds of tongues!
@@BEABEREAN10 "No one understands" because there was no interpreter in the Corinthian church. The context of the verse you are referring to does not validate unintelligible tongues, in fact, a couple verses later, Paul compares to speaking in tongues with no interpreter as to speaking as a barbarian or an instrument without distinct tones.
He also says this...
So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. There are, perhaps, a great many kinds of languages in the world, and no kind is without meaning.
1 Corinthians 14:9-10
He says this in the same breath of what you quoted, and only 8 verses later.
You can't just take verses out of context and make them mean whatever you want. You have to study the chapter to understand the verses.
@@echoarmadillo580 so you take the "speaking into the air" and do the same thing you accuse me of doing, except for the fact that your interpretation would mean that Paul did not actually mean it when he said that in tongues you speak to God and that build yourself up. You negate this important revelation by your interpretation. In contrast, I think it is clear in vs 9-11 together that Paul means people in general will think you are speaking into to the air, even though you yourself know you are speaking to God and edifying yourself as he already said prior. He even continued in vs 13 and said again, speak in tongues and pray that you would interpret it so the church can be edified, and said that he does it more than all, but that he would always will to speak intelligible words in the gathered assembly to be certain people were taught. He was not degrading tongues like you assume, just only making a point regarding what hearers might think of your tongues if they don't understand.
Secondly, I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day, and in all ancient literature, these words are only found in these two Bible verses! It was a completely unknown and new language written. And notice, there are 3 different words written in this unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 4 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences.
This is the inscription that was written:
mene, mene, tekel, parsin
“Here is what these words mean:
Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.
Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
Please, hear and see that what God is doing m with tongues is not new and different.
My question as it relates to the concept of known human languages vs heavenly/angelic languages that no one understands is this…
Isn’t it more likely exegetically that the reason why what they tongues speaker is uttering is a “mystery” and that they’re “speaking to God” and “no one understands” … isn’t it more likely that the reason for that is that the persons present in the congregation just don’t know the language being spoken rather than creating a totally different category of tongues speaking?
Especially since the tongues of angels thing isn’t definitive. Idk I’ve never found the argument for a separate category of tongues to be very persuasive. It seems much more natural to the context of 1 Corinthians 14 that we’re still talking about known human languages. Especially since later down in the passage in the Isaiah quote .. human languages were in view there. And then after that where it says “there are many different languages in the world and none of them is without meaning”… that in the world there… idk when I hear schreiner especially make the case for known human languages, it’s very strong and persuasive versus the “separate category view” ..
What do you guys think?
P.S. I’m a continuationist
In think we can be certain that practicing rapid gibberish of American consonant-vowel combinations is NOT at all what was happening in Acts 2 or commended in 1 Cor. 13-14.
You raise a good question.
@@chaddonal4331 I wouldn't be so sure. I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language completely unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day of all ancient literature, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 3 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences.
This is the inscription that was written:
mene, mene, tekel, parsin
“Here is what these words mean:
Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.
Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
@@BEABEREAN10 Your comment is interesting. Re-read mine, as the points in your comment affirm what I wrote. Both explicitly and implicitly.
Hi there, guys. Love your channel! A question: it seems the issue is confusion to unbelievers and not simply a corporate setting. Would it be OK for instance for a group of believers (insiders not outsiders as I think that the early church had these kind of "closed " meeting ie. love feasts and the Lord's Supper as well as public meetings where everybody was invited and welcomed to come together and pray and worship together, where everybody has some form of understanding of praying tongues and in the spirit and singing in the spirit and that is speaking and singing to God, and that it is for edification of self and that that communication and edification of self could /should lead to also receiving direction/unction/word from God. for instance, if people are encouraged to pray corporately out loud, communicating with God, one is not really able to hear everything that everyone else is praying and that might also be very confusing to people that are not accustomed to this practice. Conversely, I have personally experienced in a meeting of believers that have received this gift to pray in the spirit that one is able to pray in the spirit and be fully able to hear what is being prayed in the understanding of a believer in the group. Something that is virtually impossible to do if everyone is praying out loud with their understanding. would love to hear your thoughts on this.
I find frequently people who "pray in tongues" pretty much repeat the same 2 or 3 syllables in quick repetition. Is this a legit form of tongues? (I'm a continuationist but at the same time I realize that just because people call something _______ doesn't necessarily mean it is __________. So far no one has interpreted.) In a small prayer gathering in a church without visitors I'm like "okay whatever" but they're not afraid to do this out in public while prayer walking (loudly). I'm much more hesitant about practicing that. That seems to open up the door for God to be profaned instead of celebrated or worshiped by on-lookers.
This taught and imitated phenomena cannot possibly be the supernatural work of the Spirit described in 1 Cor 13-14, nor in Acts 2.
I have wondered the same thing about those who only speak 2 or 3 syllables. On the optimistic side, they're saying"praise God" over and over in tongues; on the pessimistic side they are not saying anything, just making noise. I hate to say this but a lot of the times that I have seen tongues being spoken I strongly suspect that it is fake. I don't want to believe this, and I sure am not the one who can tell whether it is true or not, it's just a bad feeling I have inside. I would love to see true tongues spoken and a true interpretation. That would make me so happy
I had the exact same thought. I wonder sometimes
To the video hosts who speak in tongues: Do you yourselves understand what it is you are saying in tongues either before you speak or while you speak? If not, are you totally surprised later as to what you actually said when someone else interprets/translates whatever you said? I ask this question sincerely since I don't speak in tongues myself and because when I speak English, my native language, I always set out to speak in accordance with my own prior thoughts and so I'm always aware in advance of what I intend to say as I say it. THANKS!
Michael you mentioned that in Acts 2 those impacted by the Spirit, and speaking in tongues, were speaking in human languages because people from various locations understood them. What is your view on this? Peter says these men are not drunk as you might suppose, for it is only 9 in the morning. Now if a Japanese man walked into Covent Garden in London and heard another man speaking Japanese , and the man was English in his appearance, the Japanese man might be astonished that an Englishman had such a great command of Japanese, but he would probably not consider him to be drunk, just well educated. Therefor it seems to me that the tongues speakers in Acts 2 are speaking an angelic tongue (they sound drunk to visitors), nevertheless some (or many, or all) hear them in their own language, which, since the Holy Spirit is powerfully present, is in fact mass spiritual gifting for the interpretation of an angelic tongue.
... and since thousands came to faith that day, and faith is itself a spiritual gift, the prior gifting of interpretation shows the spirit already at work.
This I like! Add this one to your study too!
I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, these required a gift to be interpreted, and these 4 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences.
This is the inscription that was written:
mene, mene, tekel, parsin
“Here is what these words mean:
Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.
Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
@@BEABEREAN10 On the subject of “the Angelic tongue” is a real language, I was in a home group once, and we rarely prayed together in tongues but on one occasion we were all sat in silent prayer then myself and one other guy started praying in tongues at the same time, and our first six words were the same. Curious! I remember being pretty surprised, it was quite affirming of each other.
There are three different occurrences in the New Testament regarding tongues. The first was on the day of Pentecost where the people heard in their own language. A representation of everyone would here the gospel. Then there is an tongue that comes forth in a congregation and then either the giver of tongues or someone else interprets the tongue and this always edifies the body of believers. If you are used to hearing tongues, you will immediately recognize this type of tongue. Then their is the private prayer language that is used to edify the individual believer. If God can confuse languages at the Tower of Babel, then he certainly can have a prayer language that is spoken to Him and it’s by the Spirit and you are participating in praying the will of God.
I've never seen I Corinthians 14:27-33 demonstrated Biblically. Any have a link to a video?
finally I hear someone say "both/and" when it comes to the church and Israel. Refreshing
Definitely some of your best thumbnail work here
Nobody is talking about the absolutely LEGENDARY video description 😂
Once I had a dream that one of my spiritual mentors was praying over me…at first I couldn’t understand what he was saying….I think he was speaking Italian (not a language he or I speak in the natural). All of a sudden my ears opened and I could understand what he was saying in English….and he said “let the combination of earth and water have their effect.” Any ideas??
Mud?
Healing power! Jesus picked up dirt and spit in it to heal blind eyes. Either healing power or opening your eyes.
Note: Scripture is at the end.The word of God instructs us to sing spiritual songs and we are to lift eachother up as we celebrate and praise the Lord. I believe if the Holy Spirit is moving in a corporate gathering, the worship leader does not have to instruct everyone to sing in the spirit. Everything we do unto and by the Lird should be natural. Anything a part from Him is manufacturing His presence. While in worship we engage in heaven while on earth and that should be an everyday natural thing...including corporate gatherings. We are set a part as a holy nation and peculiar people bringing forth praise at all times. So of course when a non believer comes into a corporate worship setting, it will seem awkward because they are of the world. Only God can grow a person into understanding His ways. He calls us to Him and we have free will to gain understanding.Colossians 3:16
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
That remnant shirt has Josh looking yoked 💪🏽
Someone mentioned vocal range of an angel? Read what Josephus said about it…..interesting. Correction….Josephus was referring to giants….sorry🤕
Excellent job fellas, very helpful.
Wait, so you can speak the same tongues more than once? Like if you're going to present the tongues that you spoke before to the church? How would you remember how to say them? Are you able to remember how the tongues sounded or does the holy spirit cause it?
One thing I'm curious about, is why interpretations are always done in the interpreters language, even if there's other native tongues in the church?
Can it be a legit interpretation from God and only being one language if there's multiple languages in the church?
If someone speaks in tongues, and I interpret in English, but there's spanish-speaking people there, to the Spanish speaking folks, I'm still speaking in tongues because they may not understand it.
Are there Christians who believe and practice the continuation of the Gifts that don’t go to Charismatic/Pentecostal Churches? And do these churches accept their doctrine? Just curious as a Newborn Christian here. Wasn’t sure if it was only Denomination based.
I am charismatic. I don’t go to the churches with Kingdom Now or Dominion theology regarding end times. I don’t go to heavily NAR infiltration. I go to Methodist and constantly
Miss the move of the Spirit.
@@meggy8868 the ultimate thing would be to combine good theology from the more conservative churches and holy spirit moving as we see more often in the charismatic churches. I would love to go to a church like that. The last church I went to never talked about the gifts of the Spirit or anything like that. They definitely believed in the Holy Spirit, they just didn't ever talk about the gifts. I would love for somebody to train me in the gift of discernment of Spirits because I've never met someone that has that gift
@@somethinggood9267 I agree
Chapter 12 verse 7 of 1 Corinthians says the manifestation of the spirit is given for the common good. Too many people “use” the gift for their own good. It is an ancillary issue though. God wants us to be busy making disciples.
A tongue can be used privately as a prayer language. And may also be a warfare utterance.
You are mistaken.
Actually, Mary Ellen is not mistaken. I’ve heard that warfare in the natural can be 90% boredom and 10% shear terror. Most, if not all of the time, tongues in private prayer can seem like nothing is going on. But there can be moments where you step into something akin to a fight, or wrestling.
@@mreyno9646 Yes. Sometimes I use them while doing deliverance and demons hate them. I’ve been doing deliverance since 1992 and there is very little I haven’t seen. Since I give the demons ground rules, the sessions are peaceful and anointed
Really appreciate you guys’ discussions!
This was very good and informative! Thanks guys!
2 questions:
1. How are we telling the accuracy of the interpretation? How can we verify especially if there’s only one interpreter present?
2. How are tongues not a sign to a unbeliever, when it literally says in 1 Corinthians 14:22, “Tongues then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbeliever’s “. Also practically speaking if believer speaks a tongue that unbeliever knows that believer didn’t previously know would that not qualify as a sign?
Love to gain some clarification on this, thanks and God Bless
The tongue is a sign of judgement to Israel, they are the unbelievers in question here as a fulfillment of prophecy in Isaiah 28.
@Re L wow what a blessing
@@BEABEREAN10 thats what that means??? Wait how do u know? Supporting scripture?
Praise God !
Tongues ended around the end of the first century. When the written word was completed, there was no more need for tongues. The gifts were given by the laying on of hands, Acts 8.
So you’re essentially saying they’re lying eh. Who laid their hands on the 120 people in the upper room.? God did and seeing as He’s still around it’s safe to say He can still give the gifts of the Spirit. The Spirit gives them as He wills.
@aaronbruce5394 That is ignorance. No one laid hands on 120. God never laid hands on anyone. It is not until Acts 8 that hands are explicitly sad to be laid on. ONLY the apostles ever lay hands on anyone. Where is a verse for one claim you made?
Most excellent thumbnail 9/10
Record speaking in tongues. Give recording to 6 seperate people in 6 remote areas...see if they have identical interpretation
It seems that you are saying the first PUBLIC speaking of tongues by the disciples WAS spoken to unbelievers, who questioned if the disciples were drunk- and ultimately that was edification of the church as the unbelievers were saved and baptized becoming part of the body. But the initial speaking was in the presence of unbelievers.
That wasn't in a church setting though. And those people were Jews hearing the apostles testify about Christ and His resurrection. I think the context of the tongues is different so you can't really make a fair comparison.
Y’all are great 😂 Michael’s question at the end killed me lol
It’s supposed to edify the church! I think today it’s just so heavily misused and people use Tongues without interpretation to perhaps lift them up as more spiritual.
Especially shabalabbing on stage directly into the mic 🤦♂️
Shabalabaling hahahah
We can assume that Paul spoke more than 2 languages and he said that hyperbolically. He was a very well studied man.
Of course gifts exist today, the Bible says so. Just a basic thought on the first 10 minutes here, it appears you have built your own presuppositions on the gift of Tongues and the evidence or personal tongue in Acts and other places. The git of tongues in 1 Corinthians 12 is for the edifying of the body and Paul is clear that Tongues are for edifying the person who speaks.
Tongues only edifies the body or another person in the body, not just a group in the body, when there is an interpretation in chapter 12. We do not see this anywhere in the book of Acts. And each time in Acts every single person spoke in Tongues not just the person God chose to speak to edify the body.
You are Charismatics without healthy roots in Pentecost, and you thing acknowledging some wrong doctrine in some Pentecostal circles, as is in All others, that you can ignore the strengths God has give those who believe the Bible about Tongues.
Obviously if there was ONLY the gift of Tongues as mentioned in chapter 12 then only a hand full of people would benefit from being edified by the Holy Spirit praying secrets and wisdom to God. You have serious root issues about Tongues, yet people are listening to you.
Paul alludes to the personal use of Tongues and that it is for everyone, I wish all pray in Tongues, in chapter 14, but his main topic is correcting the Corinthians who fell behind in NO gift on how gifts listed in chapter 12 should be used in a public time of TEACHING/PREACHING.
There were 16 different known languages "heard" on the Day of Pentecost.
I want to comment on edification of prophecy and tongues/interpretation of tongues. We have a creator who sacrificed His son so He could have a relationship with us. He wants to communicate in 'real' time to encourage us. Prophecy and tongues are personal, the scriptures are more corporate. When God gives me a message right now, that shows me His great love and concern for me.
If you thank all your listeners on your program, you aren't speaking to me. If you take the time to answer this comment, I know you took the time to read my comment, think about it, and reply to only me, individually.
Makes sense. But i also think the scriptures can be really personal because of the holy spirit with us when we read them.
Sorry for your loss I know how you feel Michael 😭
Has anyone had it recorded when they spoke in tongues and someone recognized it as their language? I would guess that they were not speaking the language but the person understood.
Not recorded, but years ago I was at a men’s prayer meeting in Germany while I was stationed there w USAF. We were all praying in tongues quietly and then one of the brothers began laughing out loud….naturally we stopped and asked him why he was laughing…he said, “Brother, do you want to know what you (myself) were saying in the Spirit?” “Yes, what?” I said. “You kept saying, God is good, God is good, God is good!” This brother was a Russian linguist for the USAF!
I can testify that I knew not a lick of Russian! It blessed us all! Like a mini demonstration of Pentecost. It wasn’t the speaking so much that was supernatural, it was what was BEING SAID. Glory to God. How we need some good old fashioned teaching on this subject!
Please do ep.2!!!
The whole tongues argument in my opinion from what I understand about the scriptures starts with a presupposition that the word tongue and its definition as given by the Strong's is allowed to mean something else. Where else do we take the definitions that are given to us and add another meaning to it in the scriptures? 1. the tongue, a member of the body, an organ of speech
2.a tongue
the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other nations,
Interpretation of tongues was demonstrated on Pentecost when ALL the people heard the words of the apostles in their own languages. It only requires reading what the Holy Spirit revealed through Paul in his letter to the Corinthians. But then again, the RCC and the Reformers had their own agendas and weren't about to pay attention to any wisdom given from above. That's WHY false doctrine is prevalent in almost all denominations today. Jesus still asks, "Why do you call me Lord, Lord and do not do what I say?"
52:40 kinda bashing wimber a little bit but it clearly says "all may prophesy" so giving ppl the opportunity to do so clearly cannot be considered unbiblical. It sounds like wimber cleaned it up immediately if there was any problems
In first Corinthians when it says speak in the tongue of man and angel people assume the tongue of angels is heavenly and no one understands it. Three centuries before Christ and for centuries after Christ we have writings that show the thought that the primordial language was Hebrew. What that means is an angel taught Adam how to speak Hebrew. At the tower of babel they all spoke Hebrew. Abraham continue to speak Hebrew. So the tongue of angels is Hebrew. The tongue of man is all other languages. I believe context matters. Not just what’s written but also what’s in the culture around them at the time it is written. So why what I just said matters. Interpretation of tongues is actually interpretation of a worldly language. The babbling in my opinion is not the gift of tongues. Just because someone says the thoughts you have in your head and the babbling you can do go together and that equals tongues does not make it tongues. It makes it not a miracle to anyone. There’s no apologetic you can give for that. It would convert no one. There’s no miracle in it so no one is blown away and says oh wow that’s amazing God is real. Instead they just hear babbling and have to take your word on it that that actually is from God.
I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language completely unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day of all ancient literature, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 3 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences.
This is the inscription that was written:
mene, mene, tekel, parsin
“Here is what these words mean:
Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.
Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
Completely agree with the guy speaking at the 5:00 mark
I don't understand how people can pray in tongues at will? Is it like a spiritual muscle that you learn how to use and then you can use it whenever you want to? I would think the Holy Spirit would have to cause it to happen each and every time, but people seem to use it just as they use English
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It bothers me when one of the people on your show stated…Fake Gift of Tongues. Please don’t say this because this subject is a tough one as it it. I’m not upset it’s just that while many are seeking to understand this subject, it’s not a joking matter. God bless and thanks for your channel
Speaking in tongue’s is speaking in actual known languages. The translation is of the actual language of someone who is there who may be an unbeliever of a different nationality. And I believe that could happen, but what we’re doing in our churches ain’t it..
So what language do angels speak? Or another question, why does Paul tell the Corinthians that when he speaks in tongues that no man understands. Why does he specifically call them unknown tongues? And finally, if the tongues were real languages used to communicate the gospel message, then why would we even need a gift to interpret them? Wouldn't the hearer who needs that message be able to comprehend with the gift of interpretation?
@@BEABEREAN10 “What language do angels speak?”
It seems that scripturally they speak whatever language the recipient of the message speaks. How else would they communicate with OT figures like Abraham or Moses without speaking Hebrew and then also communicate with NT figures in Greek or Aramaic. The same way God can communicate with believers of all languages.
“Why does Paul tell the Corinthians that when he speaks in tongues no man understands?”
This is assuming that the tongues in question are some unknown language (which goes to your next question), however if the tongues are of the same nature as what we see at Pentecost than they would be known languages. Imagine that Paul is speaking in tongues to a group of Hebrew speaking and Greek speaking people, but the tongue that Paul is speaking is another language like Chinese, in that scenario nobody would understand what he is saying.
“Why does he specifically call them unknown tongues?”
He doesn’t. “Unknown” tongues is not found in any of the original manuscripts for 1 Cor 14. If you look at modern translations like ESV or NASB you will see that they redact the word “unknown” since it is not in the original text.
“If the tongues were real language used to communicate the gospel why would we need an interpreter”
Simply put if someone is speaking in a foreign language wether a real language or a spiritual language it would have to be interpreted if the audience does not speak that language.
@@UncensoredChristian good input I appreciate it! My quest though still stands, even when you remove the word "unknown" the text still says that the tongues Paul is talking about is not for man, and it says no one understands him.
1 Corinthians 14:2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.
Notice Paul even says they are mysteries. This seems pretty unknown to me.
I am not in any way saying tongues is ONLY unknown, but to say that they always have to be known languages is dishonest. When Paul says no one understands, that's what he means.
Also to say that because angels communicate to men in man's own language means that they don't have their own heavenly language is a fallacy. If I know multiple natural languages and you hear me speaking to someone in Spanish, you can't simply assume I don't also communicate to my family and friends in English. It just happens to be what you hear at that time.
Also, I agree that if God gave me the ability to speak Chinese to a congregation of people who don't speak Chinese, then the gift of interpretation would be needed. But, again, there are people in the world that understand Chinese, so why would Paul say no one understands and that it's communication between you and God.
In summary, between Acts and Corinthians, I see the Bible teaching two kinds of tongue's. Known tongues to minister to men, and unknown, mysterious tongues that ministers to God, but can be interpreted to bring edification to the body of Christ.
Let me know you thoughts! 😃
@@BEABEREAN10 Thanks for the response!
As far as I can tell you are equivocating the idea of tongues not being spoken to men and tongues not being for man. 1 Corinthians 14 never says that the tongues are “not for man” as if they are impossible for any human to understand. Rather in the context Paul is writing about that tongue is for communication between the individual and God.
This doesn’t mean that speaking in tongues is only done to speak to God because Paul tells them later in v5 that it’s possible for another person to interpret the tongues.
I agree, the tongues would be mysteries especially if the language being uttered is foreign to you. If someone was speaking to me in Chinese it would all be mysterious and unknown to me regardless of if they are speaking in the Spirit that’s why Paul says that the tongues would be mysterious to a bystander unless an interpreter was present.
“But to say that they always have to be known languages is dishonest. When Paul says no one understands, that’s what he means.”
I disagree that it is dishonest. It seems fair to understand tongues as being human languages that most people don’t speak. After all that is the example we see play out in Acts 2.
Let me be clear, I never stated that angels do or don’t have their own language that they communicate. I simply stated that in every instance in scripture that God/angels speak to man it appears that it is done in a human language. The problem is when we try to assume/force some unknown angelic language onto the meaning of “tongues” when the use of “tongues” in places like Acts refers to human languages.
“There are many people in the world that understand Chinese, so why would Paul say no one understands and that it’s communication between you and God”
Because if you are speaking in a language that is unknown to the audience then the only one who would understand would be God. Paul points out the importance of speaking in a tongue that is either understandable or interpretable in 1 Cor 14:9-11.
Once again if “no one understands” the tongue then it would be foolish for Paul to expect that it’s possible to have an interpreter. Now to be clear I’m not claiming that the spirit has no influence here. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for someone who only knows one language to be able to interpret another language through the power of the Holy Spirit.
Anyways I’m curious to hear your thoughts!
@@UncensoredChristian good stuff here! Keeps me on my toes! I think you may have missed the point I made about there being two kinds of tongues mentioned in the bible. There is the supernatural mysterious tongues that is between you and God but could also be interpreted by a gift of the spirit to bring edification to the whole body. This kind is often where it would be seen as tongues of angels since no man understands it except God, but not limited to that either as it could be a natural language. And then there is the 2nd kind of tongue like we see in Acts 2 which is known human language's given supernaturally to minister to people. I think the Bible is very clear about these two kinds of tongues.
I do find it a bit interesting that you say "if no one understands then it's foolish for Paul to expect that it's possible have an interpreter"...this is disheartening because you assume that the holy spirit would not be able to give someone an interpretation of a language no one understands. But please do this for yourself, pretend for a minute you believe there is a language of heaven that men don't know, now why couldn't the HS give us this language AND also give us the gift to interpret this language? Do you really think that's not possible? It seems to me this would be the exact reason we would need a GIFT to interpret the tongue is because no man can understand it.
Secondly, I think you are wrongly equating the words translation and interpretation here. Paul says there is a spiritual gift of interpretation, as the Spirit wills.
Interpretation=overall message
Translation= word for word
- in acts 2, they didn't need the gift of interpretation by the spirit to know what was being said because they knew the language and could translate it back to others word for word. The tongues were supernatural, the hearing and translation was not. This is different from the example in 1 cor 14 where Paul says to pray that you'd interpret it since he realizes that there is no one present to translate it naturally, so it requires a gift so you can gather the overall message of the mysterious language to edify the body. Again, this could be a natural language and no one who speaks it is present, but I don't think it's an accident that Paul mentioned tongues of angels in this same context of spiritual gifts.
Again, thoughts are appreciated! I love this stuff!
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At 20:52 you mention 1 Corinthians 14, do you believe everything Paul says in this chapter falls under his statement in verse 37? Or do you cherrie pick this chapter? I find it interesting that you have three guys who all believe the same thing on this subject talking about something that can easily be challenged by others, if your Chanel is about finding the truth in God's Word then I think you should be wiling to have an opposing view join the conversation, unless your scared to loose patrons and viewership, In which case this program is not after the truth. You should ask Chris Rosebrough to join you.
You can speak in tongues, to show or manifest the anointing of the Holy Spirit. There is a relationship between the presence and power of the person of the Holy Spirit and his gifts. If we speak in tongues as a believer, we are allowing the Holy Spirit to speak through us to the Father and the Son. We are participating in the Body of Christ. We are speaking languages gifted to us by the Holy Spirit. This is not even realized by most believers. Interpretation in tongues comes the same way that prophecy comes. The Holy Spirit shows the meaning to the mind of the believer or provides a realization or revelation of it. This can be the result of the believer listening to the message in tongues in the church and praying, "Lord, if you are willing provide me the interpretation". Why not just prophecy if the goal is to communicate a message that is understood? There are a couple of reasons why tongues is a separate gift. The Holy Spirit may want to perfect praise through the believer. Using human languages this might not be possible. To this I would say it is a correct rendering of Matthew 21:16. Yes Jesus used it in a different context but the conviction he gives me is it is totally appropriate in terms of an expression of tongues. Tongues can be a prayer and following on Romans 8:26. It can of course also be a message to the church when accompanied by interpretation. In relation to not everyone has the gift of tongues, this is sometimes forwarded as an excuse for not speaking in tongues ie "not everyone has to", but tongues is available to everyone through the baptism in the Holy Spirit. Jesus wants everyone to be baptised in the Holy Spirit just as much if not more than he wants us to follow him and identify with him through baptism in water. Being baptised in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues is a matter of obedience to the Lord. Tongues as a message to the church is not the same as this though. Not everyone can give a message in tongues and interpretation. In church speaking in tongues is different from your personal prayer language which you can exercise following the baptism in the Holy Spirit. I deal with some of these issues in my videos on my channel.
Tongues in a church has more of a cadence and phrases to it than personal tongues. It is more in the form of a message. It is the Holy Spirit speaking to the Church. If you want the interpretation of a message in tongues you need to firstly ask the Lord for it. He will give it if you are bold, full of faith and ready to step out and begin. The Lord wants to speak to us more than we want to hear from him. You can ask the Lord for the message in tongues AND the interpretation. Like a prophecy, as you begin, trusting the Lord to take what you are offering him in your beginning in faith and boldness, you will find the Holy Spirit can meet you there and take what you begin with and give you a revelation. Receiving a revelation from the Lord is an amazing experience. God will also give you the interpretation if you ask as you should be ready to give the interpretation if no one else starts out. Again you are concerned to show the Lord, to give what he gives you and only what and as he gives it to you. Personal tongues isn't a message to people and therefore might not have this form. A revelation comes as a spontaneous and unfolding realization provided by the Holy Spirit. Then there is the opportunity if you ask God for the interpretation and someone else gives the interpretation it is very edifying when the interpretation they give is the same interpretation that you received by revelation of the Holy Spirit. This is the ministry of confirmation which you can also participate in as a believer. The same ministry of confirmation applies to prophecy.
Why would angels have multiple languages?
Ha, nice Latin in the description. Although I don't think that was the right translation.
Is there any spiritual gift that was meant for personal edification? I do not see any evidence of that. It would seem to me that any gift was always meant for the edification of the church. The word for tongues in Greek is glossa and there's nothing that suggest it was anything other than an earthly language. When it comes to the language of angels, all interactions people had in the bible with angels appear to involve use of earthly language. I do not see anywhere where the spiritual gift is used for personal benefit. What am I missing?
1 cor 14 and Jude 20 literally says praying is the spirit is for self edification.
Secondly, I know many people say that God or angels never spoke in a non-earthly/heavenly language...but consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language completely unknown to man! These words given were not Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day of all ancient literature, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 3 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences.
This is the inscription that was written:
mene, mene, tekel, parsin
“Here is what these words mean:
Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.
Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
No gifts exist today.
When did Jesus speak in tongues?
Possibly these (NASB):
1) Mark 5:41 “….which translated…”
2) Mark 7:34 “….that is…”
3) Mark 15:34 “…which is translated…”
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Agnes spoke Chinese.
What is the advantage of God making someone talk utter gibberish ?
The interpretation of unknown tongues is to edify the church. It must be not against the Word of God.
There’s no such thing as a Tongue of Angels man.. read the scripture again my guys. Paul was being hyperbolic. If you know that In Acts 2 it was known languages that they where speaking why do we have to insist that this is something we need to be practicing? It’s God that distributes this gift according to the need. I think That advent of Pentecostalism and Charismatic Movement over inflated something that has been historically understood within the Church.. I am not a Secessionist but, I can actually say that this Gift was unique to the fist century church or the early church because of the walls of geography made it hard for people to understand languages… Today we have Google translate. Some guy in my church was speaking in tongues and the dude next to him was translating and they were no unbelievers there. Completely out of order man.
There may not be a tongue of angels, but there very well could be as well right? We don't actually know for sure. But one thing for sure is that Paul actually talks about an unknown tongue that when he prays, no man understands. So if we say that all tongues should be known languages, then Paul is contradicting this rule. Not to mention, if they are always known languages used to speak to others present who speak another language, then why would we even need a gift of interpretation? It seems to me, the interpretation gift is specifically for the time when unknown tongues are being spoken. This could be angelic language as Paul alludes to, but again we cannot be 100% sure. But Paul is clear it's not always human languages, don't you agree?
@@BEABEREAN10 Acts records that the people gathered on that day were Jews and proselytes that were dispersed Jews who had gathered in Jerusalem for Pentecost.The focus wasn’t the language although they spoke in different languages. What amazed them was…..each one of them was hearing them speaking in his own language. What were they speaking? The mighty deeds of God. There were two responses. Some were curious and I believe were prepared to hear the word preached. The others mocked. Open ears to hear.
@@rosehammer9482 I fully agree with that! I am not saying that tongues are never a known language, there are clear times in the bible and modern history that shows that example. BUT...as we see by Paul's teaching in 1 cor 14, there is a second kind of tongues called unknown tongues that is between you and God and would require a gift to interpret. I believe in the two kinds that are seen in scripture, it seems most are only okay with the kind that is the known language examples in Acts, and they ignore Paul's further teaching in Corinthians.
@@BEABEREAN10 I agree. Many pray in tongues. My concern is the over Emphasis on this gift. Personally I would rather hear people prophesying in the sense of speaking the mighty works of God. God bless
I've heard people talk in tongues when possessed as well...strange stuff
There are demonic tongues. Satan doesn’t counterfeit trash.
@@lindsaygraham9115 ???
@@loribothwell5493 I know about people talking in demonic tongues… it’s scary!! I was saying Satan has a counterfeit to the real gifts. Sorry if I came across the wrong way.
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God DID speak to man in an in an unknown, non earthly language...consider Daniel 5 and the writing on the wall...God wrote in a language completely unknown to man! These words given were not Hebrew or Aramaic nor other known language. Even to this day of all ancient literature, these words are only found in the bible and translated/interpreted this way in this passage. And notice, there are 3 different words written in an unknown language, it required a gift to be interpreted, and these 3 words came out to be 3 complete phrases/sentences.
This is the inscription that was written:
mene, mene, tekel, parsin
“Here is what these words mean:
Mene: God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.
Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.
Tongues and interpretation is real! And it is not required to only be known human languages nor a word for word translation, that's why it's called gift of interpretation.
You could test your gift of tongues. Go to Africa, or pick a country and let the spirit lead you in conversation with someone.
Disorderly behavior is not endearing to the non believer.
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Interpretation is different than translation
BINGO!!
Do you think 1 Cor. 14 bears out that 'interpretation' is NOT the same thing as translation?
@@ChipsAplentyBand The whole chapter? Be more specific.....
@@FOG_3 5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.
6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? 7 Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the pipe or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8 Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9 So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. 10 Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me. 12 So it is with you.
@@ChipsAplentyBand are you for tongues or not? Paul evidently was. Prophecy is better for the congregation and tongues for personal edification (unless interpreted) And the Interpretation may or may not be translated (word for word) or interpreted as to the meaning of the spoken word...hope that helps. I'm just a pilgrim like you seeking truth
It is not possible to figure this "gift" out without the right approach to 1 Cor. 14 . NONE!!!!! You will be having this same conversation 20 years from now with the same misgivings and confusion as you have now. Just curious would you guys consider debating me on this one? I am cessationist ➕️. But can prove it.
Can you prove your omniscience? So far all you have proved is your arrogance.
Speaking in tongues is just talking in parable.
We can assume that Paul spoke more than 2 languages and he said that hyperbolically. He was a very well studied man.
Gabriel Santana 1st Corinthians 14:14