FF8 Selphie Tilmitt, a potential Sorceress? | Final Fantasy VIII Story Theory
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2018
- So straight up, this is gonna be a nutty ff8 story theory & lore dive excuse, questioning if the energetic Selphie Tilmitt could be... a final fantasy viii sorceress!? This isnt some Rinoa is Ultimecia or Selphie is Rinoa, or Selphie is a pineapple explained video :P. Just a mash of various bits of scene dialogues, her diaries, gameplay mechanics, limit breaks & something about the Leviathan GF summon I'm not sure about. ENJOY! FFVIII remake or port square enix now plz!
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The first school girl ever to use social media, and her name is Selphie. This game is so ahead of its time.
RubikvnDevil （＾◇＾）
So true
was....... was.
that is all.
It was also about time travel
My brain just exploded :o
Ultimecia: ugh, I'm not long for this world. I need to find a successor before I die. But first, let me take a SELPHIE! Haha
mark deans i both hate and love this 😂
Naked Lion haha i know, but somebody had to do it!
Ultimecia: Legendary SeeD!
Squall : *prepares a speech*
Ultimecia: not you! ...HER!
Selphie: wait wut?
Ultimecia: yes! I am a fan of your blog! _/squees/_ I have to do this whole plot to meet the first SeeD who made the first Social Media.
So I'm guessing if Selphie did become a sorceress maybe Irvine would've been her knight.
FF8 and it's whole cast are criminally underrated.
Best game on the PS1!
Lind the Chaotic Heretic I agree best ps1 final fantasy!
Kinda due too the expectations 7 set for the series
the final boss was one of the annoying shit ive ever experienced
For me the best one is IX, but VIII is pretty good and has a better final boss.
I was too busy bitching about the junction system to notice 😅😅😅. Maybe I should give it another go.
I've always thought Selphie used her happiness as a mask. She's smarter and deeper than she lets on. But a potential sorceress? I love this! Headcanon accepted!
Oh yeah totally. I mean fuck she was talking to the graves of her friends in Trabia Garden about how she made the festival happen. She keeps it all in as much as possible. Her quirkiness and happiness is a way of coping with her deep heartache and depression. Poor Selphie.
Quistis doesn't use items to cast blue magic, she only uses them to learn it. After that, she can cast magic without any junction.
A few years ago, me and a very close friend replayed FF8 together for the gazzilionth time or so. The perfect end of the playthrough came when we attempted Omega Weapon and the very first limit break that showed up for Selphie, was "The End". It was also the first time we ever got it to show up! We couldn't believe it and is still something that we talk about. Thank you for a great video dude. Learned some stuff I didn't know before!
FF8 is the deepest of the series. I wouldn't want a remake, but a FF8 The After Years would be cool. Same world, new cast, occasional old cameos, a better alternative to Draw.
I LOVE this idea
Yeah, maybe focus on Squall and Rinoa's child trying to live up to their parents' reputation. You know, being the offspring of a Legendary SeeD and who is, probably, the most powerful sorceress in their world.
I think it could make for an interesting story.
But yeah, a remake could potentially ruin it. While a sequel risks doing so as well, I still think it would be the better route -- if not, a CGI movie.
Definitely a better battle system. I hated Draw, but love everything else about the game!
TBH what I'd REALLY love is if VIII somehow got the Ivalice treatment. The world is dang deep and to confine it to just the main plot about Ultimecia and Time Compression wouldn't give it the full chance it needs to show off everything that can be shown. I'd LOVE to see things like different Sorceress and Knight dynamics or exploring the Shumi and the various forms they can take (including ones we haven't seen in the base game!) or more of the Centra or the initial war over Hyne's skin or what the heck are up with the Pupus or what goes on on the moon or even just a sidequest about a ghost story regarding a Sorceress who didn't find a Successor given it's said that Sorceresses who don't give up their powers become wayward spirits and can't enter the afterlife or how Guardian Forces act as nature spirits when not junctioned to humans and more people with Ellone's brand of psychic powers and-
There's a lot.
More importantly , FFVIII would make a great MMORPG, its basically built for it with the different Gardens
sojiro B We need an mmo sequel with more gardens, more gf's, more yugioh (oops I mean cards) and more schoolgirls like Selphie xD.
That and the whole gotta catch all the GFs aspect. It could have been a thing in an alternate universe.
I agree. The MMO could build on SeeD and set the game many years before FFVIII started, maybe during Laguna's time period. Or have SeeD as a playable faction. You could choose to be a SeeD mercenary, a soldier of one of the major countries, or as a freedom fighter.
Stranac Oppilas don’t forget the rebel option
people did this in second life, all be it role play. i helped build balamb garden.
I've been waiting for someone to put out some Selphie appreciation!
...Huh. I can actually kind of buy that. Not sure whether it's intentional, but the pieces do fit, and it doesn't seem like nearly as much of a stretch as the Rinoa=Ultimecia theory that was going around. If nothing else, this spotlight has given me a greater appreciation for Selphie as a character. And man, I've finished this game many times but I can't remember that scene with Selphie's data at Trabia. I wonder what she was hiding...?
I remember I accidentally beat the game by using the end. I was like, wtf?
Selphie is my favorite character from FFVIII, her design is really cute and her limit break is the shit, I mean full cure saved my party's ass a lot of times. Her positive attitude reminds me of Yuna
Didn't she claim to draw a GF back at Trabia, using it so long she forgot the name of the GF? Could the 4 unique spells he GF abilities from the forgotten GF?
Furthermore , what if that GF was Cait Sith? He's appeared as summons in other installments and the 4 special abilities are very characteristic of that character. The functions of the slots, the cartoon nature of the special abilities. It makes total sense
During the game when Selphie mentioned that she junctioned a GF as a kid and I remember thinking. "Yeah right. You're hiding something missy." Then later when I got the GF Eden my eyebrow raised at Eden's compatibility stat. "Why is Eden's summoning compatibility much higher compared than the others?" The stats alone made me question Selphie. How the heck did she junction such a powerful GF at such a young age? But with spells like that inside of her, she could easily take out any monster she wanted.
I always thought that the GF was Doomtrain and that's why she has such a deep fascination with trains and a huge morbid streak (possibly found and then lost the Solomon Ring), but you know what? Selphie casually finding one of the strongest Guardian Forces in existence makes sense. She honestly would. XD
Cid looks like Robin Williams
Enix Nightphyre I thought the same thing
Lol that was my first thought when I got the game not long after it came out
They most likely used him as a model
Selphie is the best girl in FF8，she was cute and energetic and very powerful.Ahem...not to mention she is my first crush in video game
I love her to the point i went through trouble by refining cards and items just to make her stats highest in my party
and Thank you for making this video about the best girl Selphie (ღゝ◡╹)ノ
Virgin Quistis Fan
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Chad Selphie Enjoyer
I want more FF8 stuff... man I wish they would remake that game into 15 level of graphics.
Its already the most beautiful game ever made
Man I don't want more reboots. They can't even finish VIIR ffs.
ID FUCKIN LIVE FOR AN FF 8 REMAKE
A HD remaster of 8 would be great but not a remake-- I don't think modern SQEX could remake it without totally screwing it up (FFVIIR has numerous red flags already). Of course it would never happen because of how many people have complained about the junction system over the last 20 years.
I'd be content with FF13 PC version level of graphics.
So in doing this video I got thinking, it might be an aweful lot of projecting (but wasnt that the beauty of retro characters in the day?), but I really think Selphie could be a heyoku empath. A term I only recently learned and has pulled towards my own understanding for a while. It's basically a term that means clown/fool & are type of people drawn to helping others along the way with outlandish/sometimes shocking actions. To see the reverse in any situation & have a strong, almost obsessive, control of the exterior emotions they portray. The crazy 'seemingly' extrovert energy storm that chases intuition more than logic, or what most would consider logical.
Selphie has more than enough credentials under her belt to be considered a genius and a wise person that disguises themselves as a fool is always one to watch for. They always get underestimated and theres always a concious reason they act that way. I think even the idea, despite however nats fart chance this theory is, makes Selphie an infinitly cooler relatable character.
... damn I'm so deep in the FF8 tunnel right now, 21 hours editing does that to ya lmao.
Chow for now until the 19th! Can't wait to come back and share my Vlogs of the Japan trip with you all. Peace =D =D
Idea for future video: the most evil gods/creators in the Final Fantasy series.
Final Fantasy Peasant
Enjoy your trip to Japan and have fun ! 🏯🏮🍙🍘🍣
Glad to see your theory videos...😊...I hope you have a good back story in ff7 remake. Goodluck on your trip to Japan👍
Have a good trip, Pez!
Final Fantasy Peasant . Hey Pez, have you read my input on your FFXVI ideas yet?
an FFVIII vid? Do my eyes deceive me?
So glad to see u doing ffviii content dude
I always thought Selphie was a sorceress just because of her limit break. I always wondered if Mini Mog was her first GF though. I never had the pocket station thingy, so I was never really sure about how Mini Mog worked. Also with "The End" it's actually Trabia. If you look at the mountains they're snowy and icy, and all the flowers are white. If you compare with the Winhill landscape, the mountains aren't icy and the flowers are all colours.
sirennemesis the meeting place for squall and rinoa wasn’t winhill, it was the flower field next to the orphanage. Laguna proposing to Rain was in the Winhill fields
Wait... Could it be griever?
So amazing! Can we find someone who speaks Japanese who's played the entire game and can translate more accurately what some of the lines were? I think there's still more lore and surprises to this game to be found... even this many years later!
Upon watching this, I remembered exactly how close Selphie came to becoming a Sorceress in the first place, and at the age of 4, no less!
Adel: Woman
Kuja: Man
Me: WTF Square
8 minutes in and I see the dots connecting a utterly crazy theor-eh to a plausible theory.
her hidden diary, her estranged attitude, her bubbly persona, and the icing on the cake on the 8 minute mark I remember her limit break.... its magic. and not magic drawn from monsters or draw points, but magic the player doesn't own.... not to mention the ultimate magic in the game. the end......
FF8 oh the memories!!!!
Khalil Souzou I don't remember anything, used GFs too often.
selphie could be comparable to matron in my mind. so yes she could be a sorceress, especially with her 2 limit break spells that cant be found anywhere else in the game.
A correction I'd make is that there can be multiple sorceresses at one time, so Edea and Adel were both sorceresses during the same period, and other eras have had more than one as well.
Also, it wasn't too clear, but not just anyone can be a sorceress, only candidates can do so. Adel wanted to find candidates, and that's why she was searching so long and hard. This seems to imply that candidates are rather rare, since she already controlled Esthar and would have been able to find one there if one existed. Maybe she was just eliminating them all, or there was another reason, but it seems like if she'd been able to find a candidate in Esthar she wouldn't have gone to Winhill to hunt for more.
This is all to say that, yes, between Quistis and Selphie, the latter is probably the candidate, but that she'd be pretty rare and probably unaware (as Rinoa was) that she could become a sorceress.
Good theory though, always down for more FF8 videos.
I believe the game also stated somewhere that there were multiple sorceresses alive, but they were in hiding to avoid persecution.
Pez made a vid called "Why Selphie is the best from FF8"
Yay!! Waited so long for a FF VIII theory. Love them all!! This is so interesting, wish they would do more with VIII. Thank you for the video, it made my day, love it!! Keep up the wonderful work, Pez, and have an awesome day! 😄
Awesome & original theory peasant, FF8 is my favorite in the series as well as my 1st game in the FF series, but that's besides the point. There are so many theories/ possible theories to discuss. But one Theory I have always pondered but never seen anyone else mention, but I think Headmaster Cid is possibly a future version of Squall there are many reasons as to why I think this, but the moment that I think of the most is when Cid left Squall in charge of Balam during the battle against Galbadia & says to Squall " This is your fate, It is your destiny to lead the way in defeating the sorceress etc etc.." Also Rinoa & Edea have a lot in common other than the obvious fact that they're both sorceresses & its been theorized for years that Ultimecia is a future version of Rinoa but in a parallel timeline because Squall never returned to the flower fields. & we know Cid & Edea are married & Squall & Rinoa are basically a couple by the end of the game. What I think is that the FF8 timeline is on a constant cycle of "repeating itself" kinda like the Dharma philosophy but some how various versions of squall & Rinoa coexist within the same universe? i.e Squall=Cid Rinoa=Edea/Ultimecia.
This was a great video, never thought you’d find a way to dig even deeper into one of the older Final Fantasies. Thank you for continuing to give whole new ways of thinking about these beloved classics.
Kinda makes me think Ellone is a human-incarnated GF, going off her memory power. I know GF power erases memory, but perhaps as a flesh being, her powers show past memories.
Hey hey hey... Cid couldve been a badass back in the day.... he did mention he was proud to see someone "else" master a gunblade and made it into SeeD. Cid couldve been the one who developed the Renzokuken technique.
Gru this make stable the Cid-Squall theory
Selphie has always been my favorite FF character. Super sweet to see a video about her ^__^
Wow.... I'm going to replay this game with my adult mind!
It's been too long since a theory vid. Tin foil hat at the ready
This theory gives me life. I love FFVIII, Selphie was always my favorite, and when when you mentioned this video on twitter something told me this was the theory you were going to explore.
I'm totally a believer ^^
Selphie- the underated strongest character in ff series.
Her "The End" can kill bosses in one blow
That you can draw the missed GFs in Ultimecia's castle is something that was added into later versions of the game by popular demand, but the original Japanese version didn't have them. If you missed Levi from Nog you missed it for good and would never get it without restarting the game.
Selfies limit break is “the end” which is also the beginning of the game and also the end of the game, and also the art in Ultemecias Castle. The Latin literally, means that Selfie is the messenger of a sorceress fueled future where they cannot die and all fo mad. The hidden “sleeping” is Selfie in both Trabia and Balamb garden. Selfie and Rinoa become sorceresses as a result of the events of Final Fantasy eight, so Rinoa will out live squall as will selfie. Using GIFs overtime Rinoa and selfie forget who they are and don the names of the Ultamecia and Adele, knowing the events of their own deaths and unable to die, Ultamecia/Rinoa sends selfie/Adele back in time, only to repeat the events of Final Fantasy so that they can finally die with the very creation of SEEDs. Or whatever, I dont know, thats my tin foil theory.
loving these theory/lore videos pez! have fun in japan dude, you’re gonna love it!
Personally I think Selphie never unjunctioned the GF she found as a child in Trabia, but it’s been so long that she can only remember and access the spells that GF has stored in times of desperation (i.e. when Limits occur).
What if when Edea "took over" Ultimecia's powers she transferred her original powers to Selphie unintentionally.
I found out recently that Dirge of Cerberus was originally supposed to focus on Irvine. Imagine if he had been the main character for that tail?
@3:33. I always wondered why an entire crowd of people were cheering after witnessing the murder of their own president. I'm like...that's one savage crowd right there XD. Interesting theory Pez.
DarkPhoenix69 if you visit that city later in the game citizens mention they felt possessed by some kind of spell
That's lower than Trump's is right now. Crazy.
They actually state in the game that she had them under a spell, it’s not apart of his theory
I must have overlooked that lol. I was referring to his theory in general when I said "Interesting theory Pez." :)
Trump's approval rating is actually quite high from what I've heard.
Thx for sharing this channel love your theory and explanation! =)
This actually makes a lot of sense. I'm convinced! :D
Have a lot of fun in Japan, Pez ^^
X-Files A lol what
It’s 6 in the mourning and I am watching the video
Strange you made this, because I was just talking on Twitter the other day how FFVIII still has the best overall FF story of them all. I Also got my masters in theoretical physics, believe it or not, from Georgie Tech before going into computer science and development, so Ultimecia's whole concept of Time Compression was incredibly fascinating to me in how it's done and what it actually does. People don't realize the entire Omen trailer of FFXV is like total homage to FFVIII, even.
Another interesting fact, the Ring of the Lucii is Indeed first found in FFVIII as a secret item.... And guess what? Not only does the item description discuss the Reaper worshipping family from the original VS plot, but is used to summon Doom Train when one has 666 items..... And is marked with the Seal of Solomon, the mack daddy of all magical symbols in historical and Biblical lore, used to take dominion over divine and evil beings alike. Sooooo many secrets still hidden in this game.
That being said, a few rapid fire thoughts I still believe, no matter what the team says.
1.First game to explain magic was never intended to be used humans, and how you must, 'draw' it from demons. This opens a whole can of worms for every FF story.
2. Squall indeed died.
3. Rinoa did in fact go back in time in one alternate dimension and achieved time compression using technology and magic, splitting the time lines, becoming Ultimecia, and bringing back Squall as Grievera, the summon.
4. The witches are dope as fuck and fascinating. The power that is passed down is more like a curse and always deals with death.
5. The ultimate power of a witch is the ability to travel through time.
6. I love the music, especially "Compression of Time" (great for chilling while coming up with theories. Helped me come up with some of my best.) Edea's theme has the best harpsichord ever and is oh so creepy.
7. Seifert is such a pimp that he legit beat Odin fair and square, in one hit, straight up.
8. I could go on forever, but I have a million different ways to logically prove that FFVIII and FFXV are indeed linked.
9. I still drive around with my sterling silver Sleeping Lionhart hanging on my rear view window in the convertible. Coolest trinket Square ever made.
10. Your ideas in this video are all valid. And yes, Square Did go this deep with the story of FFVIII and it is extremely occult based. I will do a video based on SE and their origin in the occult as source material one day. Maybe we will do it together? Who knows.
Sword of Etro
Great video FFP, love it and love the FF8 lore talk!
I don't believe this but it was very entertaining! Keep up the great content, Pez! Hope you enjoy Japan!!!
I can remember summoning Levitation at Dollet in my FF8 demo disc.
Holy crap this theory is amazing!
FF8 was my first and I love it, only thing I don't like about FF8 is Irvine, he should have recognised Edea at the end of disc 1, but says nothing before trying to snipe her.
And he had no problem leaving your whole party at the prison, he only helped Rinoa and she had to hound him to help everyone else, what an asshole. He was seriously gonna leave them there!
Irvine did recognize Edea at the end of disc 1, that's why he hesitated on shooting her. Didn't want to explain that to Squall though.
BrutalSax I thought he hesitated because he'd never shot anyone before, but your explanation does sound reasonable, it's not like he couldn't have lied about his hesitation either. I'm going to look at that scene from your perspective from now on. Makes it better. :)
Irvine also states, during the orphanage flashback scenes, that he didn't say anything because no-one else seemed to remember, and it sucked being the only one that did.
Aceso Metis That's the scene where i decided i hated irvine, because it seemed so out of the blue to bring it up then and not earlier.
I have the demo disc, too! It came with the PlayStation magazine.
I got to admit this could be a possability, the fact she has magic in her limit break kinda screams that she has some form of magical power, the question is...is she aware of it or is she trying to hide it?
alot of the stuff you said (ie she was top of the Class A in SeeD) adds to this aswell but theres no hard confirmation within the story to confirm once and for all that she could be a sorceress, or at least have the ability to become one
Giving that the game is heavy on "Time Compression" anything could be possible, like maybe Ultimecia is Selphie's mother without realizing, Riona and Selphia could be sisters, anything is possible with Time Compression :P
Overall, i would like to believe Selphie is a sorceress and she knows it, but is just trying to hide the truth from everyone incase she is branded a villian.
I think she knows, I think she also uses that fascination spell (used by Edea/Ultimecia) on the party to allow them to accept her feats of sorceress powers without questioning it.
Or maybe what she's trying to "hide" is the violent and psychopathic part of herself that comes out from time to time rather than being a "secret sorceress." For examples, take the prison scene where Selphie suggests skinning a Moomba. Or her absolute glee at using destruction rather than diplomacy - "Blow it to smithereens with a rocket launcher!"
Lindsey Kit Later on, they renamed her Nora
I believe... pretty solid points. Pez, really enjoyed that video. Please have great trip in Japan! Stay Safe
Love these theory videos!
This game is deeper than I give it credit for lol damn
Except you're thinking of the wrong reasons
Love this one Pez !!! 💛 im convinced
Thats a really interesting head cannon! Frankly, I would be interested to see that become actual cannon and explored more in a sequel! I was really caught up listening to you explanation and it makes Selphie 100% more interesting! I dig it! I'm on the Selphie train!
You know... I'm wondering if (now hear me out on this), Square had planned on making a sequel to VIII in the future if it had sold as well as VII. But seeing as how it didn't get as good of reviews, they decided either to put the idea of a sequel on the back burner and just eventually forgot about it... Or just scrapped it entirely.
Either way, the whole deal with Selphie being a sorceress (or eventually becoming a Sorceress) would have made this game just that more exciting and would have been and awesome plot twist!
Here's hoping Square does something like that with Selphie in a sequel or a Remake of VIII (PLEASE O' YE GODS OF THINE CRYSTALS, LET THERE BE ONE OR THE OTHER)!!!!
I doubt a sequel was ever planned since Hironobu Sakaguchi has said for decades that he never intended to follow up on the story of any of his games. He preferred to leave stories a little vague with suggestions of what might happen so that players could fill in the gaps and come to different conclusions.
I would love to see a sequel or remake if it's done very well. This is my favourite FF game and Selphie is my favourite character in the game.
Jang Ulstch Apparently there was a movie sequel in the works called "Eternal Squall" and a sequel mobile game with Seifer, Raijin and Fujin.
But who knows, everything FF8 is always a mystery.
I wanted to see that movie, dammit. Sucks that it got scrapped...
I love this theory! Selphie was always a favorite of mine personality wise. So much that yo this day I still use the phrase booyaka to this day. And it makes sense that she could've been the next sorceress given she was the 2cd character created in the line-up. Maybe after Rinoa was thought up and given to squall as a love interest they placed the sorceress bit on her and not Selphie. Who knows anymore
Never was particularly interested in selphie...until this vid. The take over quote from edea is troubling. Holy molly, if they ever remake the game they could add some content for selphie which will make her story wise op.
"Rinoa can't Angel Wing without junction"
She actually can - she'll still use any spells in her inventory. In fact if you're doing a No-J run, you can recruit Bahamut and use abilities he already has to put Ultima and Meteor on her. No junction necessary, just activate Angel Wing and watch her wreck stuff.
Selphie is my favourite FF character and she'a a sorceress for sure, I spent ages working out my theory years ago and it had most of these points including a few others like high base GF compatibility (only below Rinoa and Edea I think, two other sorceresses). Glad some others have realized too.
Also note at 18:56 where the first words Edea speaks after taking Ultimecia's powers are "Is this...the end?" Just after gaining sorceress powers she has a vision of Selphie's final limit break, while in the area where that spell visually references (the flower field is just outside the orphanage). Again in the ending, when Squall and Rinoa are lost in time, Selphie brings them back to the meadows using The End (she did warn the party not to get lost in the wrong time) you could say it was Rinoa but she looks surprised to see both the area change and Squall revive so it doesn't seem like Rinoa was responsible. At the very least if it was Rinoa then it still shows that it is a sorceress ability that Selphie uses.
So then how don't the rest of the party notice or question when Selphie displays obvious sorceress abilities? My guess is she has them under that fascination spell that Edea/Ultimecia uses so they just kind of accept it.
Oh yeah, and somehow Selphie is able to detect and manipulate Scan magic preventing her from being vertically rotated, it's the only explanation I can come up with why everyone else can be freely rotated except her.
Strange Vision Wow, didn't even think about the flower fields showing up at the end of the game being done by Selphie! That's an awesome theory and you might be right!
Strange Vision I thought Selphie couldn't rotate because of her short skirt? You know, to stop boys from trying to look up her skirt?
Seiferboy "I thought Selphie couldn't rotate because of her short skirt? You know, to stop boys from trying to look up her skirt?"
That's what I mean, she doesn't want people perving so she prevents scan from working properly. I'm just joking but it gives an in-universe explanation that I like to pretend is canon.
Fam you deserve at LEAST 500k more subs
I played ff viii over 10 years ago and only watched the video because Selphie was my favorite character in the game.
The video was thoroughly entertaining for me. Great work
Ff8 was my 4th ff game and my ❤, I just fell in love with it and cant wait to get the remake!
You bring up so many interesting points... i always thought this in the back of my head like why does Selphie have these op spells while Edea and Rinoa have lack luster limits. I'm going to make this head cannon lol. Gj
I'm so glad you did this.
holy. shit. my mind is blown, it does make sense, nice work man, new sub right here.
also, despite not being useful (her Limit Breaks are too random for my tastes) i always used her mainly because shes too damn cute not to use :)
The joy of a pez theory in my sub box 😍😍😍
Always thought about this, I'm glad I weren't the only one.
Other simple explanations for her limit break could be just that 1) her magic abilities are related to the forgotten GF, or simply 2) her weapon is some sort of spell casting device, since she obtains new limit breaks with new weapons.
Yeah she does cast The End.... I've never thought about that, but that is quite suspect...
I don't care if it has 0% of being true, I liked this hypothesis nonetheless. :x
Hyne kin of reminds me of Fallout 4.The Soul Survivor builds and leaves a settlement with a radio beacon turned on. Later on it is fully populated with people who can do very little for themselves.
Kind of the Sole survivor's tools, they can farm corn, tatos and mutfruit for you to make into infinite adhesive.
Yet settlers can do very little for themselves. "Ok, we produce 10 units of food but have 12 people. Wait till the Sole Survivor who hasn't been here in weeks visits again, they'll plant more. Only 10 beds, well crafting another two is beyond us. We need the SS"
Selphies GF when she was little was Griever making your point even more solidified js
Interesting theory) thanks for sharing
More ff8 stuff please. This was great. Me and one of my friends always considered Selphie to be a demon, this put our thoughts into words better than we could.
I love this theory because there were so many misterious things about her, the nameless GF, the hidden data in Trabia. And I never even had a theory to explain all that. Now I do
this game bring so much memory...i wish i could relive the moment playing this game when i was a kid
Whaaaaaaa, you really just nuked my mind with all this theorizing. I'm starched right now
26 minutes of pure awesomeness!
That's my girl there, I had a pixel crush on her when I was younger, just her personality all together, she is still my favorite FF8 character.
Selphie is very pretty. How did my child self pass over her?? Also they stole her design to use for Cater lol...
Was I the only one who didn't use Selphie...... or Zell..... or Quistis??
Selphie's my favorite character from VIII, so I aprove this theory and from now on it's canon to me.
In the newest Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon, Mikey says Booyakasha! instead of Cowabunga!. And both he and Selfie are happy go lucky characters who wield nun chucks...
Selphie is best waifu from VIII. Quistis and Rinoa who? Lol
sukoru reonhato that is exactly why
I see you are a man of culture as well.
I love me some Quistis
the reason why squall cant get along so well with quistis is her powerful bad breath lol
I love her so much, wish you could choose between Selphie, Rinoa and Quistis and I’d choose Selphie every time, she’s so lovable and cheerful perfect for Squall since he’s overthinks to himself a lot and Selphie could be there to comfort him and be with him through everything!
"The End" ...best limit break ever. (glad you noticed her secret)
I believe it was the GF Mog that she junction at 12 it would explain her happy go lucky attitude even when faced with danger.
Kudos to whoever owns one of those statues of Levi, Quistis, and Selphine
I think it's implied in-game that witches can die of old age. This is one of the arguments against the Rinoa is Ultimecia theory, but i still Love that theory, even if the developers deny it, it makes too much sense.
You outdid yourself with this theory though, Pez. Good job!
I think the Leviathan summon is a very slim connection but honestly Selphie’s limit break mixed with Edea’s line at the end of the game definitely makes me seriously consider this.
But question, how do you know Ellone wasn’t present when Ultimecia showed up and gave her powers to Edea?
Because it said so in the game. In that scene we see a young Squall running off to search for "Sis". At the min 19:07 Squall says "...I can't find sis", implying that Ellone is no longer at the orphanage. ... Or at least that's what I remember from the game, I could be wrong, it's been a while since I played it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fatima Salinas No you’re right. What I should have explained is that we don’t know at the end of the game, WHEN precisely Squall and Ultimecia arrive in the Orphanage timeline. It’s quite possible it was before Ellone was sent away, and so Matron’s comment about not wanting one of the children to become a sorceress could have referred to Ellone, since she had the potential for it (thus why Adel hunted her).
Fatima Salinas And in thought of that actually, Ultimecia knew about Ellone. So maybe she was still trying to revert back in time to take over her when she appeared at the Orphanage, or give Ellone her powers, but Edea inherited the powers instead.
I think you are right about Ultimecia looking for Ellone at the past, It makes sense. I think is possible for her to choose that time because she still wanted to use Ellone but she miscalculated because she was dying and ended up there when Ellone was gone (or hidding, because we know kid Squall has no idea where she is and is looking desperately for her)
I'm sure Edea from that time had no idea what was going on, in her mind she was just protecting her childrem from a destiny that she thought was bad. Before the sorceress war I'm sure the world had a different view about sorceress (I think is mentioned somewhere that there had been good sorceress that helped people, etc) but after Adel, the sorceress became frightening beings, something to fear, so she wanted to protect her children from that burden.
I like the idea that maybe some of the girls at orphanage had the potential to be sorceress and that's maybe a reason why they were rescued by Edea and Cid (besides, you know, being orphans ^^U) but that is just my wishful thinking.
Fatima Salinas I think sorceresses had been prosecuted for a while before Adel (I think there’s mention somewhere) and Adel just firmed those fears. Logically there would HAVE to be more sorceresses considering they can never truly pass on until they’ve handed their powers over. I like your idea of Edea and Cid trying to protect potential sorceresses. It’s a nice thought.
Honestly I’m curious as to why sorceresses begin to mutate into such weird forms. Ultemcia had nails and talons and long hands and feet. Adel was masculine and like ten feet tall with similar hands. I think Edea was starting to. Her hands were very long and her face was very sharp (if he you look at her in her brief scene at the credit FMV she looks different but she was no longer a sorceress). And the ones you fight while being send to the future are very odd too.
Honestly it makes wonder if these mutations have anything to do with their hostile attitudes. Like maybe it’s a price of using magic?
This is a great video.
FFVIII remake pleaseeeeeeeee
@21:29 Greatest fan-art ever!
Also, to add to your last point, Selphie's highest compatibility GFs give magical buffs. Ruby Light from Carbuncle gives reflect (and shell?) while Cerberus (her highest naturally compatible GF) gives you Double and Triple. Hmmm, could it really be just another coincidence that its akin to her LB where you get cast random magic a random *number* of times (usually 2 or 3, like double or triple)?
I miss these theory videos, especially when they're so damn convincing =D
I love FF8 becasue of these theories lol. I always thought that message from Ulti's wall painting was related to Selphie in some way lol real cool.
FF8 is still one of my fav games
I have thought this for years. Fully agree.
dang i was thinking that as well cuz she said some pretty psychopathic shit