As a resident of Upstate "New York" (I prefer the name of Excelsior), I have long supported the secession of the Five Boroughs into an independent Federal district, freeing the region from Westchester county north to the Canadian border from disenfranchisement. In so doing, there is a very real chance that Long Island would find itself distinct enough to seek statehood of its own. The level of control the city holds over such vast territories and diverse ways of life is obscene and is well passed due for correction.
@@nickl968 depends. Some parts of Westchester are closely associated with NYC (e.g. Yonkers), while others have their own separate identity. Becoming part of a new, separate state would not preclude them from having ties with NYC. People would still commute into NYC, just like people from NJ and CT do now. Trains, buses, and highways won't disappear overnight.
Upstate isn't "disenfranchised," there just aren't that many people there. State politics is focused on the city because that's where most people live/ work.
@@michaelquinones-lx6ks Pennsylvania is also not part of New England, so my point stands. I've actually lived in Maryland, Delaware, and Massachusetts (which *is* in New England.)
They already do that. There is a 0.5% transportation sales tax (added on to state sales tax) for all counties served by the MTA (Orange, Rockland, Dutchess, Putnam, Westchester, Nassau, and Suffolk).
Also, Metro-North is effectively 24/7. The last trains depart GCT at 1:50 am, and the first trains leave their outer terminals (Poughkeepsie, New Haven, and Wassaic/Southeast) at just after 4 am.
Good video for the most part. One thing though, at 0:52 you label Westchester County (the area northeast of NYC and northwest of LI) as "Upstate" which is not true. It is a core part of the NYC metropolitan area with over a million people and is most culturally and geographically similar to Nassau county on LI, for example also having its own busy commuter rail (Metro-North)
Where you draw the line is a subjective decision. For that matter, Metro-North also serves Putnam and Dutchess counties (and its west of Hudson lines, operated by NJ Transit, serves Rockland and Orange counties). However, many people in those counties consider themselves upstaters, not part of the NYC metro area.
Your data concerning Long Island was solid, but what is your argument? Any good argument has to have uniqueness, and I don't see it. Long Island is basically an NYC suburb with more conservative views as with many suburbs in America. Large parts of upstate have very similar political views. Eastern Oregon has radically different views than those on the other side of the Cascades, and they are in constant battle. Just pointing out that LI has its own economy (which lost an absolute ton of manufacturing in the 80s and 90s. ) is not a unique argument, as that can be said about many areas in the country.
@@mariodangelo9768 considering most people commute in and out of New York City from long island what would be the benefit of making long island a state
There are only three true cities on Long Island. New York City (boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn), Glen Cove and Long Beach. Everything else is either a village, town or part of New York City. Long Island City was once an independent city but was absorbed by NYC like the rest of Queens in 1898. Its now just a neighborhood of Queens.
New York City deserves statehood above Long Island, its the most important city in the United States and would benefit greatly from receiving direct federal assistance as the region grows, evolves, and continues representing the United States on a global scale. I personally would link NYC with Long Island and make that entire region a separate state, but I can see some friction there.
At 2:48, that stop looks like the Locust Valley stop on the Oyster Bay Line from back in the late 80’s/early 90’s. Looks different now but that wasn’t far from my grandparents house.
Hawaii became a blue state and Alaska became a red state. America's politics in Congress probably would not allow a single entity to become a state anytime soon.
Maybe Long Island and Puerto Rico together. Puerto Rico would be a blue state, and Long Island red (although parts of Nassau County have large Democrat clusters).
As a resident of Upstate "New York" (I prefer the name of Excelsior), I have long supported the secession of the Five Boroughs into an independent Federal district, freeing the region from Westchester county north to the Canadian border from disenfranchisement. In so doing, there is a very real chance that Long Island would find itself distinct enough to seek statehood of its own. The level of control the city holds over such vast territories and diverse ways of life is obscene and is well passed due for correction.
Westchester would never agree to this considering it’s also a major suburb of NYC
@@nickl968 depends. Some parts of Westchester are closely associated with NYC (e.g. Yonkers), while others have their own separate identity.
Becoming part of a new, separate state would not preclude them from having ties with NYC. People would still commute into NYC, just like people from NJ and CT do now. Trains, buses, and highways won't disappear overnight.
Upstate isn't "disenfranchised," there just aren't that many people there. State politics is focused on the city because that's where most people live/ work.
Delaware is not part of New England. It's literally south of New Jersey, next to Maryland.
Delaware and Maryland are just extensions of greater Pennsylvania.
@@michaelquinones-lx6ks Pennsylvania is also not part of New England, so my point stands. I've actually lived in Maryland, Delaware, and Massachusetts (which *is* in New England.)
@@RockTheBass I was just joking, And, Thank you for answering my comments.
No one said it was.
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Well…the state of LI will probably have to pay hefty subsidies to the NYCTA/MTA for the use and maintenance of the LIRR.
They already do that. There is a 0.5% transportation sales tax (added on to state sales tax) for all counties served by the MTA (Orange, Rockland, Dutchess, Putnam, Westchester, Nassau, and Suffolk).
@@mirzaahmed6589 Well, count on an increase for Nassau and Suffolk
"there's nothing like the LIRR" ...😮outside of Metro North that often times competes with LIRR on passengers
Also, Metro-North is effectively 24/7. The last trains depart GCT at 1:50 am, and the first trains leave their outer terminals (Poughkeepsie, New Haven, and Wassaic/Southeast) at just after 4 am.
Good video for the most part. One thing though, at 0:52 you label Westchester County (the area northeast of NYC and northwest of LI) as "Upstate" which is not true. It is a core part of the NYC metropolitan area with over a million people and is most culturally and geographically similar to Nassau county on LI, for example also having its own busy commuter rail (Metro-North)
Where you draw the line is a subjective decision. For that matter, Metro-North also serves Putnam and Dutchess counties (and its west of Hudson lines, operated by NJ Transit, serves Rockland and Orange counties). However, many people in those counties consider themselves upstaters, not part of the NYC metro area.
Your data concerning Long Island was solid, but what is your argument? Any good argument has to have uniqueness, and I don't see it. Long Island is basically an NYC suburb with more conservative views as with many suburbs in America. Large parts of upstate have very similar political views. Eastern Oregon has radically different views than those on the other side of the Cascades, and they are in constant battle. Just pointing out that LI has its own economy (which lost an absolute ton of manufacturing in the 80s and 90s. ) is not a unique argument, as that can be said about many areas in the country.
It's really a geographic thing New York is four states stitched together Western New York Upstate Long Island and the city
Long Islanders crying to secede from NY just want to avoid paying NY state taxes.
@@mariodangelo9768 considering most people commute in and out of New York City from long island what would be the benefit of making long island a state
Most of Suffolk County isn't NYC suburbs. I can assure you, no one in Montauk or the Hamptons think of themselves as being in NYC's orbit.
@@mirzaahmed6589 US Census Bureau > some dude from long island
Serious I don’t know why your channel isn’t bigger. It’s better than city beautiful
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There are only three true cities on Long Island. New York City (boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn), Glen Cove and Long Beach. Everything else is either a village, town or part of New York City.
Long Island City was once an independent city but was absorbed by NYC like the rest of Queens in 1898. Its now just a neighborhood of Queens.
I grew up in Glen Cove and remember learning this in elementary school. It was a proud fact for us. ☺️
Isn’t even the best Long Beach
New York City deserves statehood above Long Island, its the most important city in the United States and would benefit greatly from receiving direct federal assistance as the region grows, evolves, and continues representing the United States on a global scale. I personally would link NYC with Long Island and make that entire region a separate state, but I can see some friction there.
We don’t need two more republican senators, no thanks
At 2:48, that stop looks like the Locust Valley stop on the Oyster Bay Line from back in the late 80’s/early 90’s. Looks different now but that wasn’t far from my grandparents house.
Long Island is beautiful. great video!
Is the Long Island flag a real thing? I like it.
Better to just add the rest of long island to the city of new york.
No
3:40 it's a secession, not a succession. Two completely different things.
Any credibility this video had was completely lost by the fact the creator cannot spell “Manhattan”. 👎
One of the greatest questions to ask is: what city or town would be the capital?
I would think Huntington but I could also see a place like Montauk or Hicksville or something
Riverhead, or maybe Happauge. Nothing in Nassau County, as that would be too close to NYC.
this is long overdue
NYC has wanted to brake off as well from the rest of the state. NYC makes most of the money for the hole state
Hawaii became a blue state and Alaska became a red state. America's politics in Congress probably would not allow a single entity to become a state anytime soon.
Long Island would be a red state there problem solved
Maybe Long Island and Puerto Rico together. Puerto Rico would be a blue state, and Long Island red (although parts of Nassau County have large Democrat clusters).
Long Island just want to take the revenue from Brooklyn and queens because the boroughs in very rich also the airport as well
Long Island MacArthur (ISP) is a perfectly good airport.
1:42 You spelled Manhattan wrong. 🙄
my bad G
bro thinks delaware is in new england ☠️
As a Long Islander, I am all for this. Keeps the trash from NYC coming in
Well, screw y’all too