It seems there's three women in room 237. The young one, the old laughing hag that stalks Jack, and a 3rd old one sitting up in the bathtub. The most noticeable difference between the two old ones is that the laughing, stalking one has long hair matching the young woman, while the old one in the bathtub has short hair. But there also seems to be differences in the locations of the wounds, and uh, other features don't match so well. Different actresses? Only two are credited. Thanks for the videos, I enjoy your work.
I have heard that it is apparently the same woman in all scenes, viewed from different "time periods" or something like that. As for the actors, the young woman was Lia Bedlam, and all of the other scenes were by Billie Gibson.
It took me years to realize that the movie I saw as a kid, wasn't the Kubric's Shining everybody was talking about, but the miniseries. Anyway I loved the miniseries even though I was deeply terrified by it. Later the Kubric's film didn't feel right, as it wasn't the original to me. Anyway the quality of this comparison video is outstanding. You did really, really great job with it. Thanks for it.
@elvangulley3210 That's what Kubrick did. He read something and would make a film about his interpretation of the themes or even feelings that the work evoked. And in so doing, (despite your negative view) he created timeless masterpieces that provoked and challenged our sensibilities. You're entitled to your opinion, but hopefully you recognize the true impact on film that Kubrick had. It's artists like him and King who help to make life deeper and more profound for all of us
I read the book first, saw Kubrick's movie when it came out, then the miniseries. I liked all three. The book is scariest for me. Kubrick's movie is endlessly fascinating. King's miniseries is most faithful to the book; I preferred his more vulnerable Jack's redemptive act, and he didn't kill Halloran. All have merit, but it's not the miniseries covered in a hundred videos decades later!
I think colors are so important with Kubrick's work. Since with alchemy and all the occult and esoteric influences on his work, color is very significant and illuminating. So the green color I guess would be associated with the underworld? Green zombies and all that... or it's "Time" itself... I wonder if you'll review "The Green Knight". It kinda fits with 9th gate and angel heart in that "fool's journey and initiation" type of narrative. Also really glad to see you uploading! And you sounds fantastic.
Having read the book long after seeing the movie I do think there are some interesting and frightening moments in novel that unfortunately aren’t explored in Kubricks adaptation. However, there is also a lot of schlocky crap, too. Halloran fighting the hedge monsters, Kings excessive self-insert writer alcoholic trope he does, the hotel itself literally going “Nnnoooo!!” before it explodes? Trying to answer every question strips a lot of the fear out of things like this.
Kubrick wasn’t 100% faithful to King. But then again, he couldn’t be. He had to condense a massive novel into under 2 1/2 hours of film. Kubrick also had to make changes due to the limitations of special effects in the late 1970s (thus the maze instead of the shrub animals for example). Finally, Stanley Kubrick took a masterpiece of modern literary horror and made it even scarier. How? By making the real terror come from Jack Torrance. Were there ghosts? Maybe. Maybe not. It’s the ambiguity even in the end that makes Kubrick’s The Shining so compelling.
I find it really jarring that any parent would let a five-year-old just wander all over a huge place like that alone...but then, it was the 70's and 80's.
The acting was terrible in the series. Sure, the series was faithful to the novel, but it wasn't well performed. Is anyone actually convinced that the buck-toothed little twit with the bowlcut had any supernatural powers?
It seems there's three women in room 237. The young one, the old laughing hag that stalks Jack, and a 3rd old one sitting up in the bathtub. The most noticeable difference between the two old ones is that the laughing, stalking one has long hair matching the young woman, while the old one in the bathtub has short hair. But there also seems to be differences in the locations of the wounds, and uh, other features don't match so well. Different actresses? Only two are credited. Thanks for the videos, I enjoy your work.
I have heard that it is apparently the same woman in all scenes, viewed from different "time periods" or something like that.
As for the actors, the young woman was Lia Bedlam, and all of the other scenes were by Billie Gibson.
It took me years to realize that the movie I saw as a kid, wasn't the Kubric's Shining everybody was talking about, but the miniseries. Anyway I loved the miniseries even though I was deeply terrified by it. Later the Kubric's film didn't feel right, as it wasn't the original to me.
Anyway the quality of this comparison video is outstanding. You did really, really great job with it. Thanks for it.
Damn that sucks you didn't see the Original first. Kubrick made the book a work of ART something the mini series couldn't achieve
Bullshit he ruined the real art because he cant respect source material @racheljames913
@elvangulley3210 That's what Kubrick did. He read something and would make a film about his interpretation of the themes or even feelings that the work evoked. And in so doing, (despite your negative view) he created timeless masterpieces that provoked and challenged our sensibilities. You're entitled to your opinion, but hopefully you recognize the true impact on film that Kubrick had. It's artists like him and King who help to make life deeper and more profound for all of us
I read the book first, saw Kubrick's movie when it came out, then the miniseries. I liked all three. The book is scariest for me. Kubrick's movie is endlessly fascinating. King's miniseries is most faithful to the book; I preferred his more vulnerable Jack's redemptive act, and he didn't kill Halloran.
All have merit, but it's not the miniseries covered in a hundred videos decades later!
King wanted the husband to be forgiven for his violence. Kubrick made a film about an abusive man alone with his family, given permission.
I think colors are so important with Kubrick's work. Since with alchemy and all the occult and esoteric influences on his work, color is very significant and illuminating. So the green color I guess would be associated with the underworld? Green zombies and all that... or it's "Time" itself...
I wonder if you'll review "The Green Knight". It kinda fits with 9th gate and angel heart in that "fool's journey and initiation" type of narrative.
Also really glad to see you uploading! And you sounds fantastic.
The biggest terror, of room 237, was the décor and carpets!
And add the 8mm Kubrick's camera to make the scenarios wider, lol!
Having read the book long after seeing the movie I do think there are some interesting and frightening moments in novel that unfortunately aren’t explored in Kubricks adaptation. However, there is also a lot of schlocky crap, too. Halloran fighting the hedge monsters, Kings excessive self-insert writer alcoholic trope he does, the hotel itself literally going “Nnnoooo!!” before it explodes?
Trying to answer every question strips a lot of the fear out of things like this.
Kubrick wasn’t 100% faithful to King. But then again, he couldn’t be. He had to condense a massive novel into under 2 1/2 hours of film. Kubrick also had to make changes due to the limitations of special effects in the late 1970s (thus the maze instead of the shrub animals for example). Finally, Stanley Kubrick took a masterpiece of modern literary horror and made it even scarier. How? By making the real terror come from Jack Torrance. Were there ghosts? Maybe. Maybe not. It’s the ambiguity even in the end that makes Kubrick’s The Shining so compelling.
And he had to admit that he faked the moon landing
"caves of despair & death . . . of solitude & dark despair”
-William Blake
"Here is the place of the erotic dream."
-A Blake Dictionary
In ghost lore, yes, objects can appear & reappear-a classic ghost trick
I find it really jarring that any parent would let a five-year-old just wander all over a huge place like that alone...but then, it was the 70's and 80's.
Videos like this make me hate the comments section. Everyone is an expert on everything. It’s disgusting
We leave on Thursday. stir of echoes
Stephen king lost any director cred or screenwriting cred with Maximum Overdrive
Love your videos, especially your analysis of the ninth gate. Glad you lost the vintage film filter.
The acting was terrible in the series. Sure, the series was faithful to the novel, but it wasn't well performed. Is anyone actually convinced that the buck-toothed little twit with the bowlcut had any supernatural powers?
The miniseries was hilariously bad.
The young woman in Room 237 had a nice bush.
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