Indeed. As a child of the 70s who grew up with a chain smoking father, I can attest to this. And as much as it pains me to say it, there is a very strong nostalgia factor here for me. My childhood looks like wood paneling, sounds like disco and smells like Marlboro.
that reminds me, if i recall correctly when i was around 11 or 12 my mom would send me to the corner store with a hand written note for the clerk to get mother pack of cigarettes and the guy did it. something kids would absolutely not be able to do now!!!
I'm sure there's someone that has one of those faces that works in a dimly lit warehouse. Jack Nicholson was VERY LUCKY to be discovered, there's some very talented people who will spend their lives going from dead end job to dead end job with no possibility of retiring not in this economy anyway. He could have easily been just another face in the crowd or at a manufacturing company.
This comment speaks volumes to his ability as an actor. I commonly forget its jack. He becomes the character. The character is him. For someone with such a huge persona, this is the definition of peak acting. I cant watch a pacino or deniro movie without seeing pacino or dinero. Jack is elite actor.
@@emptiester I think it depends which Deniro and which Pacino you are talking about. At some point, they decided to just phone it in, but they were shape-shifters too during their primes.
@@blujay91911:06.5 to 1:12.5 I'm not sure if I remember the parking lot for mostly cars🚗🚙🚐 seane or not🤔 but it's been about 3.5 years since iv seen my favorite classic horror movie ever but I'm not sure if this is a seane is there for only watching the movie on television 📺 but not the movie 🎥🍿 or DVD
Shelley's lack of having a typical Hollywood face made her role as a doormat/mouse of a wife very believable and integral to the unraveling of her husband.
@@timmyteaching Yes, she indeed "shined" in this epic thriller and she will be praise for her acting skills for decades to come. Ruth Buzzi comes to mind, when you peel aside Ruth's "barren woman with a purse" facade that was her "bread and butter" so to speak, she was quite attractive otherwise.
Little pigs, little pigs, let me come in. Not by the hair of your chiny-chin-chin? Well then I'll huff and I'll puff, and I'll blow your house in.[axes the door]..😁
SHOWN! in the back ground every time Jack has insight. When walking to the front desk, many times when hearing the questions and story. listen close and you can hear Shown!
He was supposed to already look scary. The character was an alcoholic who had already abused Danny. (Broke his arm I think). Jack Nicholson was a perfect fit for the role.
I wouldn't say he was crazy at this point. He was a bitter dry drunk but not crazy, it was the hotel and alcohol relapse that pushed him over the edge. That's just my take though.
Exactly. He obviously undergoes a painful transformation. He's self-loathing and bitter but he's not the literal howling ax-murderer he becomes later either. @RaoulFel
So let me get this right. A few previous caretakers went nuts before and killed their family. Now when looking for a new one, you hire this guy? HR is f'ing nailing it.
"Our people in Denver recommended Jack very highly.... and for once... I agree with them." Wow this guy just shot some major shade at his people in Denver LOL
Wasn’t King kinda annoyed by that? I thought he said once that Jack was too crazy from the start & kinda lessened the apparent effect from the hotel on his state of mind..?
I love the shot of Bill at 5:29 staring silently at Jack. Between his eerie composure and Ullman's nervous chuckles, you get the feeling there's something they're not telling Jack.
The guy giving the interview was actor Barry Nelson, and he has the distinctive honor of being the first actor to play James Bond on screen. In 1953 Ian Fleming sold his first Bond novel Casino Royale and a year later American TV showed it as a half hour play.. That's why it took until 2006 for the Bond movie company EON to show it as an official 007 film
The attention to detail is marvelous. Notice from the moment Jack walks in he's as calm and confident as possible. He looks like he runs the place. Even how he knocks on Ullman's door, it's the knock of someone in charge of Ullman, just showing courtesy since his secretary is in there. Of course we will find out later Jack has always been the caretaker.
and notice how Kubrick placed Ullman's offfice in an impossible location. It was not possible to have an outdoor window there. Love the details in this movie
the window is frame to look like the blood red lift doors we see throughout the movie, also when we cut away to Danny, we see a salt and pepper pot quite prominent, foreshadowing the twin girls. There are probably a billion little tidbits in this film we've still to find..
@@billthomas8994 it’s not low key acting. In fact they are overacting. Specially Jack Nicholson. It’s like a theatre piece. You have to see this scene for what it is. Forget the name of the movie for 10 seconds.
Agree. I measure good acting as conveying a believability of the truth of the character. He knocked it out of the park. I totally believe in the character, like he really exists out there somewhere.
2020 was just the beginning of an increasingly isolated world. It's still not over. People purposely isolate themselves burying their faces into their phones at all hours of the day instead actually talking to people face to face. We wonder why mental illness continues to increase.
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I think the opening words - in the book - Jack thinks about Ullman are: "Officious little prick," which puts you right in his inner contemptuous perspective about others.
@@adipsous 🚨!!!SPOILERS ALERT!!!🚨 Another thing I love about the book is the boiler mechanism and its literal and metaphorical importance depicting a building, uncontainable tension and rage. Also the playground + topiaries scenes creeped me out more than a book ever has. I like what they did in the movie with the hedge maze but I really think the playground could have traumatized people even more 😈 *All things follow the beam*
"I could really write my own ticket if I went back to Boulder now, couldn't I? Shoveling out driveways, working in a car wash...would that appeal to you?" 🤣
I stand by my own theory that Jack had the Shine, but unlike Danny and Mr. Halloran he didn't realize he had it or had it explained to him, so when he saw the imprints of the wickedness of the hotel it took complete control of him.
In the book, Holloran says to Danny that his Dad doesn't have the shine, but he's got "something". I don't recall the details but it's an ominous moment for sure.
It's Danny. Danny's shine allowed the ghosts of the Overlook to become real. That's why they are desperate to make Jack kill him, so his spirit will be absorbed by the hotel and he can shine them back into existence all the time.
It was Dannys shine imagination in combination with the story about the murder that inspired Jack to write the book that we experience trough the novel. I love that interpretation.
I thought this scene was a masterpiece of suspenseful horror. Just the way the guy tells Jack about the story and there's no music it seems real and gives a more realistic feel to the whole thing.
The reason I remember from the book he was Fired as a teacher because he was an alcoholic and hit a student. He would have occasional drunken rages. There is a shit ton more of detail in the book and I highly recommend reading it. Both the Book and the Movie are good which usually does not happen.
The book is always better and more detailed. I read " The Pianist" not too long ago and even though the movie is great the book is very emotional and detailed.
The Shing is one of the very best films ever. This scene totally reflects the dynamics of the human condition, something totally lacking today. Hi-quality individuals, believable in their roles, the manager and the other guy, exactly how 'managers' looked in the past. I imagine if they were to do a scene like that today it would involve a lot of wet empathy, relating to how much they 'care' about your feelinsg and how 'upsetting' such a 'sad' event had etc etc.
Ullman: Did they tell you anything in Denver about the tragedy we had here in 1970? Jack T: I don’t believe they did. That look on Bill’s face: You’re FUCKED!
@@Ghostoftennesseemoltianti Very true. But would ya know, I've known people to say that, "all work and no play," then they just leave everything to their spouse while pretending to be working on some bs project.
@@buyerofsorts It means there's a window where there should none or a window into the hallway. There are many of those throughout the movie. The question is, is the hotel messing with Jack and there's actually a window to the hallway or maybe a painting?
That's right! Kubrick has a way creating dialogue that seems like any two people on the street could be engaged in. In 2001, on the space station, when Dr. Floyd is talking to the Soviet scientists in the lounge, it's all very casual and normal. And again, when he goes into the video phone booth to call home and he talks to his daughter (played by Vivian Kubrick, Stanley's daughter). One thing I remember seeing in a YT video about the production of the Shining, in the ballroom scene where everyone is dressed in early 1920's clothing, apparently Kubrick didn't want the extras to talk to each other and don't even pretend to talk. They could look at each other and smile and nod their heads, etc. but no talking. He thought that it would pull the viewer's eyes away from Jack as he walked past them to get to the bar. As the camera dolly gets to the end where Jack is close to the bar, I did see one group of extras and they seemed to be talking. I don't know if Kubrick caught that and said, "Ehh, leave it in," or if it got past him.
Did anyone notice that the speech patterns of the hotel manager are almost identical to the character of Dr. Floyd character in 2001 space odyssey. Which also reflects the speech pattern of Stanley Kubrick himself when I have heard him interviewed.
I always thought, because the interviewer tells the story about the murders, the rest of the movie WAS the story Jack wrote for his book, just playing out in his head.
I have been waiting for somebody to upload this scene so that it includes Jack's entrance into the hotel, because it confirms the theory that Ullman's office makes no architectural sense: the elevator shaft is to the right of the office door, yet Ullman has a picture window behind his desk.
The elevator shaft is behind the wall on the right. I don't understand why you even mention it. The window in the perpendicular wall that runs behind Ullman's desk is anomalous for different reasons: we learn later that it must overlook a corridor. The clue is in the hotel's name...
This movie takes cabin fever to a whole other level. Another reason I can't live in places with long cold winters. Tried it, freaking depressing. Imagine a job with up to 6 months of isolation....trapped and snowed in....
If this was filmed today Wendy would’ve had Jack stop at the dispensary in Sidewinder and stock up on weed lol. He would’ve been relaxed and actually got his writing project done😂
@@katellaa lot of alpine resorts are in pretty close proximity to each other which helps, also those countries usually have their local or provincial Department Of Transportation or equivalents that keep the roads clear paid for by their national budget as the tourism is a highly vital part of their economies.
You're telling me that, in 1977, a former teacher (who only got the job to make ends meet) turned writer (read as unemployed) could get hired as a hotel caretaker with no prior hotel experience and have free room/board for his entire family for half a year? Truly unsettling.
@@chrisjames6327 The average price of a house in 1977 was about $50,000. Things were cheaper back then dollar wise but not that cheap. Even in 1977, the average price of a new car was nearly $6,000.
The book explains this. His friend, a former alcoholic, thought Jack was over that and got him the job as a favor as he was a partner in the hotel. Although it was certainly easier to get a job back then especially when recessions weren't too bad, references were generally checked and there would be suspicion as to one moves from a higher paid to a lower paid career. But a connected friend always saves the day whatever decade it is.
I watched "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" 5 years earlier in 1975 before "The Shining" was released in 1980 and this interview scene always reminds me, for some reason, of Dr. Spivey interviewing Jack Nicholson's "Randle McMurphy" character in the OFOTCN movie since Nicholson's nonchalant demeanor is so similar in both movies!!!
It's funny when I saw this originally in 1980 I was about 13. I didn't think overall it was a scary movie but now 44 years later. I think it absolutely is.
It's the static voyeurism that is still scary, the fact that the point of view is never from the family. The ending shot is famous for its reveal that Jack was always part of the hotel (or however you understand it), but what makes it so scary is that part of your lizard brain wonders, what is walking so slowly towards the photo? What is still here? Why do I still hear music?
In older films, dialogue often felt more natural, including imperfections like mumbling, enhancing authenticity. Modern films, by contrast, frequently seem over-staged, as if every scene is crafted to win awards.
I would agree, but it's important to note that Kubrick's method of exhausting his actors with take after take had a certain effect on dialogue. The mumbling, stuttering, etc that has the effect of sounding natural is in part because of tired, overworked actors.
I have watched this movie over 100 times. One of my favourites. I get right into it .I try to imagine what it would be like to actually do that job with wife and kid.Just the sense of how big the hotel is,the size of the kitchen especially .And the decor of the toilet in the Grady scene is amazing. Being a 70s kid all the clothes and decor remind me so much of being a kid. The story and acting is brillant aswell. Its not really scary but it definitely has something creepy about it.👍🙏
an interesting fact about this scene: if you pay attention to where Mr Ullmans office is located within the hotel, the window looking outside doesn't make sense. There is a hallway behind his office and so this is what you should see in the window.
Saw this movie when it first came out back in '80. Swear everytime I rewatch a scene it gets more scary than the time before. And the acting and direction get better. 😂
Jack Torrence's constant grin, only slightly interrupted by the news that a terrible crime has taken place in this hotel, certainly makes the interviewer Ullman think: "Oh man, now they've sent me another psycho."😂👍 It was foreseeable that things developed the way they did. Maybe it really would have been more sensible, or rather more interesting, if the role had been given to Robert de Niro. The transformation would have been a little more believable. In Nicholson's case, it's not a change, but rather a contemporary who looks like a psychopath from the start. 🤣🤣No wonder Ullman had to point out that a psychopath had already been there before.🤣🤣
Horror is a very difficult genre. A dark horror film can easily - inadvertently - become a comedy. But this scene sets to tone - the atmosphere - of the film. From the opening credits to the final scene, it's suffocating. You're not in safe hands here. I never understood why Stephen King complained so bitterly about it - this is a masterpiece.
@@drbalbon7332 I have to agree with you there, dude. The Shining is an excellent example. King griped about it bitterly for decades, but when the opportunity came up for him to make his own version - presumably, the one he thinks SHOULD have been made - it was a boring snorefest. It was called Stephen King's The Shining. He even made an appearance as the conductor of an orchestra, as I recall. I don't care what I'm supposed to feel, but hedge animals are simply not scary. And a guy who's gone psycho chasing his family around with a croquet mallet is simply not as terrifying as a guy with an axe. Pet Semetary was also very lame. He did the screenplay for that. King is a brilliant novelist. And his books do make great movies - as long as he stays away from the production.
People are talking about how Jack looks crazy right from the get-go, but I think he comes off as collected, polite, and intelligent. He might have a spark of crazy in his eyes, but a man cant help how he looks. It wouldn't be enough to set off my alarm if i were to meet this person. He seems totally calm and reasonable.
I agree! I think people say he already looks crazy because he's Jack Nicholson, and while that does show in his mannerisms, eyebrows, awkward chuckles through his smile, and his almost non-reaction to the horrific story, he's still doing his best to keep a veil of sanity in front of others. Jack to me was a character who was always teetering close to the edge and abused alcohol to try and quell his demons, but the isolation of the hotel (or the ghosts or the shining or whatever you choose to believe) mixed with his alcohol withdrawals pushed him off the deep end.
In hindsight, since it was quite clear Jack was having trouble writing, he should've done what Ethan Hawke's character did in SINISTER and wrote about the guy, Grady, who chopped up his family and killed himself. That probably would've been a best seller if he'd finished it. Instead he went up there with some random book project he could never get off the ground.
forty-four years have gone by, and what do we see? a classic that has never been surpassed in its supernatural horror. rest in peace scatman crothers, stanley kubrick and shelley duvall.
Stuart Ullman is a dead ringer for Ronald Reagan. His initials are S.U. but backwards, is U.S. In addition, his tie is red, shirt is white with stripes, and jacket is blue, the colors of the flag. He also has the flag prominently on his desk. Also, Stuarts hands are placed forward when he does not speak.
Peanut butter, white bread and cigarette smoke. Ah, being a child in the 70's!
How about we add some bacon, banana slices, and fry it with some good ol butter to that sandwich and call it complete,lol.
Indeed. As a child of the 70s who grew up with a chain smoking father, I can attest to this. And as much as it pains me to say it, there is a very strong nostalgia factor here for me. My childhood looks like wood paneling, sounds like disco and smells like Marlboro.
While watching Road Runner on the TV ❤
that reminds me, if i recall correctly when i was around 11 or 12 my mom would send me to the corner store with a hand written note for the clerk to get mother pack of cigarettes and the guy did it. something kids would absolutely not be able to do now!!!
Breakfast of kings!
The problem is , Jack looks crazy right from the start of the movie 😂
true true hehe...
Absolutely, this movie is no reflection upon the book.
That's why Kubrick should've went with Robert De Niro. He would've done a terrific job.
Is this Stephen King?
More demonic than crazy I’d say
The actor playing Stuart Ullman really does a great job carrying this scene. Doesn't over-act or even seem like he's acting.
Played Latka's (Andy Kaufman) psychiatrist on ''Taxi'' multiple personality disorder classic episode!!
Yes. I think his performance is badly underrated.
Barry Nelson is the actor. He was a veteran actor by 1980; a real pro.
@@acousticshadow4032 He was a gem.
And he was the first actor to play James Bond!
Jack Nicholson was born with a face that just says so much. He could never be just a regular guy.
I'm sure there's someone that has one of those faces that works in a dimly lit warehouse. Jack Nicholson was VERY LUCKY to be discovered, there's some very talented people who will spend their lives going from dead end job to dead end job with no possibility of retiring not in this economy anyway. He could have easily been just another face in the crowd or at a manufacturing company.
@@kevinfrimpong969absolutely...he has talent...but luck played a big part.
This comment speaks volumes to his ability as an actor. I commonly forget its jack. He becomes the character. The character is him. For someone with such a huge persona, this is the definition of peak acting. I cant watch a pacino or deniro movie without seeing pacino or dinero. Jack is elite actor.
@@emptiester I think it depends which Deniro and which Pacino you are talking about. At some point, they decided to just phone it in, but they were shape-shifters too during their primes.
@@ER1CwC im not here to ruin anyone for anybody. Please, continue to enjoy the actors and films you like.
RIP Shelley Duvall.
Great actress of my childhood!
It's just a movie.
She went through hell during the filming of this movie, a real trooper!
@@projectJ30 No, it's a cinema masterpiece.
didn't know she died. She did this role justice.
FINE! I'll rewatch The Shining.
we used to watch it with girls back in the day so they would get scared & cuddle :}
It needs to be an anual event
Just had the same thought.
@@blujay91911:06.5 to 1:12.5 I'm not sure if I remember the parking lot for mostly cars🚗🚙🚐 seane or not🤔 but it's been about 3.5 years since iv seen my favorite classic horror movie ever but I'm not sure if this is a seane is there for only watching the movie on television 📺 but not the movie 🎥🍿 or DVD
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I imagine Mr. Ullman getting a call a few months after this interview:
"Uh sir, it... happened again."
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Right! lol I wanted to see what happened when people showed up to start reopening and cleaning lmao
He seems like the kinda guy who would just go 'Goddammit, alright thank you Joe'
@@victorymansions 😂😂😂
I wonder how the next interview went !
Shelley's lack of having a typical Hollywood face made her role as a doormat/mouse of a wife very believable and integral to the unraveling of her husband.
She’s actually really pretty when they weren’t intentionally making her look run down and tore up from stress and exhaustion.
she is classic jolie-laide, much like sandra bernhard. It's rare, but when combined with talent, can be devestating.
@@timmyteaching Yes, she indeed "shined" in this epic thriller and she will be praise for her acting skills for decades to come. Ruth Buzzi comes to mind, when you peel aside Ruth's "barren woman with a purse" facade that was her "bread and butter" so to speak, she was quite attractive otherwise.
“Are you sure you can handle that kind of total isolation?”
“Why I most certainly can. Just leave the ax, and I’ll take care of the rest.”
LOL!
Little pigs, little pigs, let me come in. Not by the hair of your chiny-chin-chin? Well then I'll huff and I'll puff, and I'll blow your house in.[axes the door]..😁
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”Excellent Mr Torrance, excellent.”
Was it the same axe? Do we ever learn?
"And then he killed his entire family".
Jack: "ill take the job"
Wowzers😢
Previous caretaker ordered Code Red on his family
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Love the way there's no background score, silence creates tension. Classic Kubrick.
I find modern films so unbearably noisy and loud I don`t go to the cinema anymore.
SHOWN! in the back ground every time Jack has insight. When walking to the front desk, many times when hearing the questions and story. listen close and you can hear Shown!
@@jaykiley73 Dang, you're right. I never noticed that. Subliminal sound.
@@LarryMossey what SHOWN means here?
Jack Nicholson already looks scary as hell being interviewed like a normal person doing a job interview.
He can't wait to get time alone at the hotel so he can start practicing his Joker face.
All play and no work makes Jack a scary bloke.
He was supposed to already look scary. The character was an alcoholic who had already abused Danny. (Broke his arm I think).
Jack Nicholson was a perfect fit for the role.
Nicholson (with an assist by Kubrick) accomplished something extremely difficult in this scene: He played a crazy person trying hard to be normal.
Hollywood people do that every day
Except when the movie cameras cut, they don't try too hard.
@STho205 that’s cute you think it’s only Hollywood types. Do you know any humans?
I wouldn't say he was crazy at this point. He was a bitter dry drunk but not crazy, it was the hotel and alcohol relapse that pushed him over the edge. That's just my take though.
Exactly. He obviously undergoes a painful transformation. He's self-loathing and bitter but he's not the literal howling ax-murderer he becomes later either. @RaoulFel
So let me get this right. A few previous caretakers went nuts before and killed their family. Now when looking for a new one, you hire this guy? HR is f'ing nailing it.
Just one guy did it. His name was Delbert Grady.
A few? He specifically mentioned one incident.
WTF Denver? Get you hiring together already...
You definitely weren't paying attention this this scene. Sorry, we won't be hiring you.
They probably figured they'd give it to a crazy person since he's more socially expendable
No computers, laptops, cell phones, printers, fax machines and still they could run a hotel, being cut off from the world = FREEDOM
It is the Proof it was possible. Now not. Not possible to go back
No phones and etc., is exactly why shit like in the movie could happen. Nowadays police would come to stop Jack's madness in a couple hours
@@vasvas8914 Man up 💪! 😉
@@vasvas8914 Yeh aright cause that kind of stuff never happens anymore. Oh wait, yes it does.
@@Hummerbird99 a family stuck with a raving lunatic for months? Yeah, a phone call or text message would stop that, so no. Would not happen.
"Our people in Denver recommended Jack very highly.... and for once... I agree with them." Wow this guy just shot some major shade at his people in Denver LOL
Tbh in the end ppl in Denver screwed up again , recommending Jack
Manager Ullman's bizarre smiling when he's relaying the Grady event would have me decline the job.
What did the people in Denver know about Jack? 🤯 Who were the people in Denver? This now feels like a whole part of the story that was left out 😂
@@jonasmarcili0 They can't do anything right
Wasn’t King kinda annoyed by that? I thought he said once that Jack was too crazy from the start & kinda lessened the apparent effect from the hotel on his state of mind..?
I love the shot of Bill at 5:29 staring silently at Jack. Between his eerie composure and Ullman's nervous chuckles, you get the feeling there's something they're not telling Jack.
Bill has seen some shit
Nah that's just from Kubrick making him do 55 takes. 😆
@@NOMADcourier85 definitely also a possibility lol
Room 237 haunting might be it.
His tie was creeping me out.
So great he got the job. I'm sure everything will go smoothly, the family will have a blast, and he'll get a solid reference at the end.
And he’ll write a bestseller that will get a movie option!
To think of how fun it will be for a young kid to ride all around a luxury hotel with no one to tell him no!
@@cyberpimp29 And he'll meet a couple of nice girls his age who will want to play with him!
@@bonnacon1610 Forever...and ever.....and ever.
@@bonnacon1610With creepy English accents!😮
The guy giving the interview was actor Barry Nelson, and he has the distinctive honor of being the first actor to play James Bond on screen. In 1953 Ian Fleming sold his first Bond novel Casino Royale and a year later American TV showed it as a half hour play..
That's why it took until 2006 for the Bond movie company EON to show it as an official 007 film
i would pin this comment but sadly i cant ):
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Thank you for this little tidbit. I found the episode on UA-cam and it’s fascinating to see.
Homeboy reminds me of Pat Sajack.
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The attention to detail is marvelous. Notice from the moment Jack walks in he's as calm and confident as possible. He looks like he runs the place. Even how he knocks on Ullman's door, it's the knock of someone in charge of Ullman, just showing courtesy since his secretary is in there. Of course we will find out later Jack has always been the caretaker.
and notice how Kubrick placed Ullman's offfice in an impossible location. It was not possible to have an outdoor window there. Love the details in this movie
@@Umrebs64Why was it not possible?
@@nobull9541 It's just not.
the window is frame to look like the blood red lift doors we see throughout the movie, also when we cut away to Danny, we see a salt and pepper pot quite prominent, foreshadowing the twin girls. There are probably a billion little tidbits in this film we've still to find..
@@nobull9541 Based on what we've already seen, it's supposed to be a hallway behind Ulman's office. Collative Learning goes into detail about this.
That has got to be 7 1/2 minutes of some of The best writing, and acting ever. It’s chilling…
I agree, that maze scene sure is.
You’re crazy. The writing is nothing special l and the acting is bad to say at least.
@@billthomas8994 it’s not low key acting. In fact they are overacting. Specially Jack Nicholson. It’s like a theatre piece. You have to see this scene for what it is. Forget the name of the movie for 10 seconds.
@@billthomas8994 ?
@@billthomas8994 loool
"If my wife or son have any objection's, I'll correct them both"
Barry Nelson was one of the most natural actors to grace the screen. He stole this scene
Agree. I measure good acting as conveying a believability of the truth of the character. He knocked it out of the park. I totally believe in the character, like he really exists out there somewhere.
@@RodCornholio Which is why I hold the very unpopular opinion that Daniel Day Lewis is terribly overrated.
By what measure do you say he stole it? And have you ever worked in film or tv?
@@RodCornholio which is one of the problems I have with this film - Jack Nicholson's 'performance ' doesn't really fit .
Living in seclusion and months of isolation can lead to mental breakdowns. Fast forward 30 some years and we all lived it in 2020.
2020 was just the beginning of an increasingly isolated world. It's still not over. People purposely isolate themselves burying their faces into their phones at all hours of the day instead actually talking to people face to face. We wonder why mental illness continues to increase.
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All play and no work doesn't make me a dull boy.
All play and no work doesn't make me a dull boy. All play and no work doesn't make me a dull boy.
40 years later. Just saying....
I just observed it!
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Is it me or no….at the first 40 seconds of this move Jack Torrence already looks ready to kill somebody
maybe (:
That's just Jack Nicholson being Jack.
In the book, it fleshes out how badly Jack needs this job. Makes a little more sense contextually.
I think the opening words - in the book - Jack thinks about Ullman are: "Officious little prick," which puts you right in his inner contemptuous perspective about others.
@@adipsous 🚨!!!SPOILERS ALERT!!!🚨
Another thing I love about the book is the boiler mechanism and its literal and metaphorical importance depicting a building, uncontainable tension and rage.
Also the playground + topiaries scenes creeped me out more than a book ever has.
I like what they did in the movie with the hedge maze but I really think the playground could have traumatized people even more 😈
*All things follow the beam*
The book is worth reading (and yes it's terrific).
The movie is different, and cause of Kubrick and Nicholson, it's awesome too.
@@adipsous The Ullman of the film is a normalish guy whereas the Ullman of the book - well, you can understand why Jack dislikes him.
"I could really write my own ticket if I went back to Boulder now, couldn't I? Shoveling out driveways, working in a car wash...would that appeal to you?" 🤣
Ratched probably wrote him a reference letter.
Good one!!! 😂😂
Clutch
I stand by my own theory that Jack had the Shine, but unlike Danny and Mr. Halloran he didn't realize he had it or had it explained to him, so when he saw the imprints of the wickedness of the hotel it took complete control of him.
Wow. I never thought of that. You changed this whole movie for me. Thank you
In the book, Holloran says to Danny that his Dad doesn't have the shine, but he's got "something". I don't recall the details but it's an ominous moment for sure.
Not yours, I've first heard that 30 years ago
It's Danny. Danny's shine allowed the ghosts of the Overlook to become real. That's why they are desperate to make Jack kill him, so his spirit will be absorbed by the hotel and he can shine them back into existence all the time.
It was Dannys shine imagination in combination with the story about the murder that inspired Jack to write the book that we experience trough the novel. I love that interpretation.
I thought this scene was a masterpiece of suspenseful horror. Just the way the guy tells Jack about the story and there's no music it seems real and gives a more realistic feel to the whole thing.
Suspenseful some. Horror? Nah
@@desertweasel6965 great take! Recommend ''The Passenger'' 1975 Antonioni's - Jack in his glory a few years before The Shining!!
The reason I remember from the book he was Fired as a teacher because he was an alcoholic and hit a student. He would have occasional drunken rages. There is a shit ton more of detail in the book and I highly recommend reading it. Both the Book and the Movie are good which usually does not happen.
The book is always better and more detailed. I read " The Pianist" not too long ago and even though the movie is great the book is very emotional and detailed.
Woah, looks like a good start to the movie. Surely nothing will go wrong
hehe.... right?
Just some wacky misadventures of a whimsical and quirky family as they explore a beautiful and peaceful hotel in the mountains…
The impossible window of the general manager is such a good touch.
What exactly does that mean
The acting, cinematography and tone of this whole scene is on a level of its own. Kubrick was a directorial genius and Nicholson a master of menace.
Nicholson is horrible in this role. I understand why King hates the movie.
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@@sorenbailey9888 Clever. i bet you had to think a long time to come up with that answer. Well done!
@@saftfan So glad you approve. Thanks.
NO WAY SOMEONE PASSES ANY INTERVIEW WITH THAT PSYCHO SMILE JAJAJAJAJAJJ
LOL you've obviously never worked a day in your life in construction or prison security.
It is called charisma. Women love it, especially. He is goddamn hot.
It was the 70s. Of course it was normal.
Back then you could pass an interview with your tongue sticking out so long as you seemed confident enough.
You mean HAHAHAHA
Overlooked was the nuanced performance by "Bill". That "look" at 5:29 was chilling. Master class in acting.
Dead serious look and also looking a bit worried about Jack.
The scene at first looks like something from an old English for beginners video lesson.
@@DenisPetrov1980 Lol
The Shing is one of the very best films ever. This scene totally reflects the dynamics of the human condition, something totally lacking today. Hi-quality individuals, believable in their roles, the manager and the other guy, exactly how 'managers' looked in the past. I imagine if they were to do a scene like that today it would involve a lot of wet empathy, relating to how much they 'care' about your feelinsg and how 'upsetting' such a 'sad' event had etc etc.
Ullman: Did they tell you anything in Denver about the tragedy we had here in 1970?
Jack T: I don’t believe they did.
That look on Bill’s face: You’re FUCKED!
Ullman's "people in Denver" fucked up again! He's going to have to go down there and deal with them.
What tragedy? The one that happened in New York that September?
His tie resembling the maze is a very cool detail.
Jack is totally nuts from the get-go!!
Haven't seen this movie, but glad he got the job. Hope it worked out well for them in the end and he finished his book.
well... there is no happy end (:
tee hee!
Same. I hope he gets time to relax, though. All work and no play, as they say.
I've read Jack's book and it's shit.
He just repeats the same line over and over again. waste of 5 dollars.
@@Ghostoftennesseemoltianti Very true. But would ya know, I've known people to say that, "all work and no play," then they just leave everything to their spouse while pretending to be working on some bs project.
Ulman's office has an impossible window.
oh wow you're right!!
All designed to make the viewer feel uncomfortable
An impossible window? What do you mean?
@@buyerofsorts It means there's a window where there should none or a window into the hallway. There are many of those throughout the movie. The question is, is the hotel messing with Jack and there's actually a window to the hallway or maybe a painting?
One of the bests scenes and dialogue in cinema history. I love the way they communicate. Very natural yet eerie.
Kubrick's banal conversation here reminds me a lot of the 2001 Space Odyssey conversations
That's right! Kubrick has a way creating dialogue that seems like any two people on the street could be engaged in. In 2001, on the space station, when Dr. Floyd is talking to the Soviet scientists in the lounge, it's all very casual and normal. And again, when he goes into the video phone booth to call home and he talks to his daughter (played by Vivian Kubrick, Stanley's daughter). One thing I remember seeing in a YT video about the production of the Shining, in the ballroom scene where everyone is dressed in early 1920's clothing, apparently Kubrick didn't want the extras to talk to each other and don't even pretend to talk. They could look at each other and smile and nod their heads, etc. but no talking. He thought that it would pull the viewer's eyes away from Jack as he walked past them to get to the bar. As the camera dolly gets to the end where Jack is close to the bar, I did see one group of extras and they seemed to be talking. I don't know if Kubrick caught that and said, "Ehh, leave it in," or if it got past him.
Did anyone notice that the speech patterns of the hotel manager are almost identical to the character of Dr. Floyd character in 2001 space odyssey. Which also reflects the speech pattern of Stanley Kubrick himself when I have heard him interviewed.
No, why, did you?
I can understand why people find this movie slow and boring, but they just don't get it. I'm so riveted -- every scene lures me in.
Jack Nicholson once again plays himself yet somehow fits the role perfectly.
It must be charisma.
I always thought, because the interviewer tells the story about the murders, the rest of the movie WAS the story Jack wrote for his book, just playing out in his head.
Isn't that part of what makes this movie so great? 10 different people can interpret it 10 different ways, and they would all be right
''well you can rest assured Mr. Ullman that's not gonna happen with me''
CUT
curb your enthusiasm theme music
Lol
The set is so perfect! The curtains, the things on the walls especially the coffee cups!
Ullman was played by Barry Nelson, technically the first actor to play James Bond (in a 1954-adaptation of _Casino Royale_ made for TV)
When I first glimpsed him in this movie I thought it was Jackie Cooper.
I just can't watch this movie anymore after I saw that outtake of how Kubrick treated Duvall.
I have been waiting for somebody to upload this scene so that it includes Jack's entrance into the hotel, because it confirms the theory that Ullman's office makes no architectural sense: the elevator shaft is to the right of the office door, yet Ullman has a picture window behind his desk.
epic window lore
The elevator shaft is behind the wall on the right. I don't understand why you even mention it. The window in the perpendicular wall that runs behind Ullman's desk is anomalous for different reasons: we learn later that it must overlook a corridor. The clue is in the hotel's name...
At 4:07: "...and doing repairs so the elements can't get a foothold." So to speak.
The way this conversation, or exchange, is orchestrated by Kubrick reminds of the exchange between the group of scientists in 2001 a Space Odyssey.
Yeah, very phoney & political.
I was thinking that too.
What an enchanting look he has. Great actor and movies. Loved him in his Wolve movie 💗
Lets hope we dont get that copyright strike 💀
This reminds me of the JOKER look
6:03 Jack is thinking "And what's wrong with that?"
LMAO His looks are so Trevor Philips
This movie takes cabin fever to a whole other level. Another reason I can't live in places with long cold winters. Tried it, freaking depressing. Imagine a job with up to 6 months of isolation....trapped and snowed in....
Congratulations Jack!! You got the job. I just know you will create some great memories here...welcome aboard. Cheers 🎉
Guess who was BORN to play Olive Oyl !!
Yes she was ... Maye she RIP ..
RIP Shelley
Was it scatman curruthers
As he approaches Ullman’s office you hear the clack clack clack of the typewriter - nice foreshadowing
Seems like a good hire. Hats off to the HR team for finding him!
😂
This scene is perfect, absolutely believable but quietly and plainly introduces the unsettling elements that slowly take over
I feel like the color red plays a big role in this movie and the deeper the shade of red on the walls the more trouble Jack is finding himself in
The color red triggers anger, also blood and sacrifice. Also, the deep red represents total insanity in Jack.
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen this movie. Love the book too.
What a nice manager. I wish that all my job interviews had been so friendly!
If this was filmed today Wendy would’ve had Jack stop at the dispensary in Sidewinder and stock up on weed lol. He would’ve been relaxed and actually got his writing project done😂
I like the part where clearing 25 miles of road is not worth keeping open a giant mansion ski hotel. Not foreboding at all.
That made no sense to me.
The enormous cost of running a snow plow 25 miles at a time would have bankrupted them. lol.
@@buyerofsorts makes me wonder how all the alpine resorts in Europe do it.
@@katellaa lot of alpine resorts are in pretty close proximity to each other which helps, also those countries usually have their local or provincial Department Of Transportation or equivalents that keep the roads clear paid for by their national budget as the tourism is a highly vital part of their economies.
@@zachhoward9099 I was thinking heating elements in the road to melt the snow. Just a wild idea that could make me rich...lol
HR: "He killed his entire family with an axe."
Jack: "Understandable, where do I sign?"
They all know it’s haunted…but Jack loves the idea. In fact…he can’t wait.
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You're telling me that, in 1977, a former teacher (who only got the job to make ends meet) turned writer (read as unemployed) could get hired as a hotel caretaker with no prior hotel experience and have free room/board for his entire family for half a year? Truly unsettling.
You could buy a house for $1800. A free room wasn't as appealing
@@chrisjames6327 The average price of a house in 1977 was about $50,000. Things were cheaper back then dollar wise but not that cheap. Even in 1977, the average price of a new car was nearly $6,000.
Apparently, he had closeted boiler maintenance skills.
The book explains this. His friend, a former alcoholic, thought Jack was over that and got him the job as a favor as he was a partner in the hotel. Although it was certainly easier to get a job back then especially when recessions weren't too bad, references were generally checked and there would be suspicion as to one moves from a higher paid to a lower paid career. But a connected friend always saves the day whatever decade it is.
jack had a hvac tech certificate from devry and his own tools.
I watched "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" 5 years earlier in 1975 before "The Shining" was released in 1980 and this interview scene always reminds me, for some reason, of Dr. Spivey interviewing Jack Nicholson's "Randle McMurphy" character in the OFOTCN movie since Nicholson's nonchalant demeanor is so similar in both movies!!!
The only guy crazier than Jack in this movie was Mr Grady !
As an adult, this movie isn’t as scary anymore. It’s more surreal & emotionally draining.
It's funny when I saw this originally in 1980 I was about 13. I didn't think overall it was a scary movie but now 44 years later. I think it absolutely is.
As an adult I find it more disturbing. A family locked away with a psycho
Interesting disctinction.
It's the static voyeurism that is still scary, the fact that the point of view is never from the family. The ending shot is famous for its reveal that Jack was always part of the hotel (or however you understand it), but what makes it so scary is that part of your lizard brain wonders, what is walking so slowly towards the photo? What is still here? Why do I still hear music?
Love this scene. I love this slow building of tense in horror with such scenes.
In older films, dialogue often felt more natural, including imperfections like mumbling, enhancing authenticity. Modern films, by contrast, frequently seem over-staged, as if every scene is crafted to win awards.
I would agree, but it's important to note that Kubrick's method of exhausting his actors with take after take had a certain effect on dialogue. The mumbling, stuttering, etc that has the effect of sounding natural is in part because of tired, overworked actors.
@@Corellian And boy did he make them work for their money.
I have watched this movie over 100 times. One of my favourites. I get right into it .I try to imagine what it would be like to actually do that job with wife and kid.Just the sense of how big the hotel is,the size of the kitchen especially .And the decor of the toilet in the Grady scene is amazing. Being a 70s kid all the clothes and decor remind me so much of being a kid. The story and acting is brillant aswell. Its not really scary but it definitely has something creepy about it.👍🙏
He aced the interview! 😂
He seems like a nice man, I hope this works out for him and his family
Honestly Jack Nicholson could probably ace like 99% of interviews, all you really need is charisma and he has plenty of it
He AXED the interview
@@agreb25 They didn't ask too many difficult questions. Just kind of told him about the job like he had it already from the beginning.
@@STONESGAM almost like...he already did 🤯 "you're the caretaker. You've always been the caretaker"
This absolutely wrecked my childhood. Along with Evil Dead.
Good stuff 👍
Careful with that axe 🪓 Eugene.
Great band 👏
an interesting fact about this scene:
if you pay attention to where Mr Ullmans office is located within the hotel, the window looking outside doesn't make sense. There is a hallway behind his office and so this is what you should see in the window.
Saw this movie when it first came out back in '80. Swear everytime I rewatch a scene it gets more scary than the time before. And the acting and direction get better. 😂
Jack Torrence's constant grin, only slightly interrupted by the news that a terrible crime has taken place in this hotel, certainly makes the interviewer Ullman think: "Oh man, now they've sent me another psycho."😂👍 It was foreseeable that things developed the way they did. Maybe it really would have been more sensible, or rather more interesting, if the role had been given to Robert de Niro. The transformation would have been a little more believable. In Nicholson's case, it's not a change, but rather a contemporary who looks like a psychopath from the start. 🤣🤣No wonder Ullman had to point out that a psychopath had already been there before.🤣🤣
Horror is a very difficult genre. A dark horror film can easily - inadvertently - become a comedy.
But this scene sets to tone - the atmosphere - of the film. From the opening credits to the final scene, it's suffocating. You're not in safe hands here.
I never understood why Stephen King complained so bitterly about it - this is a masterpiece.
I've often wondered about King's taste in films. He's recommended some real crap over the years.
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I have to agree with you there, dude. The Shining is an excellent example. King griped about it bitterly for decades, but when the opportunity came up for him to make his own version - presumably, the one he thinks SHOULD have been made - it was a boring snorefest. It was called Stephen King's The Shining. He even made an appearance as the conductor of an orchestra, as I recall.
I don't care what I'm supposed to feel, but hedge animals are simply not scary. And a guy who's gone psycho chasing his family around with a croquet mallet is simply not as terrifying as a guy with an axe.
Pet Semetary was also very lame. He did the screenplay for that.
King is a brilliant novelist. And his books do make great movies - as long as he stays away from the production.
No book has had more of an effect on me. I will never read it again.
Can you elaborate on the effects.
@@Dzanarika1 He 🪓his dog
People are talking about how Jack looks crazy right from the get-go, but I think he comes off as collected, polite, and intelligent. He might have a spark of crazy in his eyes, but a man cant help how he looks. It wouldn't be enough to set off my alarm if i were to meet this person. He seems totally calm and reasonable.
I agree! I think people say he already looks crazy because he's Jack Nicholson, and while that does show in his mannerisms, eyebrows, awkward chuckles through his smile, and his almost non-reaction to the horrific story, he's still doing his best to keep a veil of sanity in front of others. Jack to me was a character who was always teetering close to the edge and abused alcohol to try and quell his demons, but the isolation of the hotel (or the ghosts or the shining or whatever you choose to believe) mixed with his alcohol withdrawals pushed him off the deep end.
You got the job Mister Torrence. You are the perfect fit.
The book was different.
Shining bombed at the box office until years later when people found gold unpacking these scenes
man, I miss Jack, the greatest actor of this generation. - as good as it gets
Nicholson is just thinking "stacked them in one room, hmmm, now that's an idea"! Getting a crazy guy to play a crazy guy is genius!
In hindsight, since it was quite clear Jack was having trouble writing, he should've done what Ethan Hawke's character did in SINISTER and wrote about the guy, Grady, who chopped up his family and killed himself. That probably would've been a best seller if he'd finished it. Instead he went up there with some random book project he could never get off the ground.
He could have taken a lesson from Ben Afleck and Matt Damon.
It was a good interview, I think he will do the job well.
I thought, think, the general manager and his pal Bill, is creepier than Jack.
The laughing as his telling him about the murder suicide is creepy as hell
Just maybe, both guys looked like they may have been part of the cult in the hotel.
forty-four years have gone by, and what do we see? a classic that has never been surpassed in its supernatural horror. rest in peace scatman crothers, stanley kubrick and shelley duvall.
His smile is Joker as I imagine. He didn't need any prosthetic makeup to be the clown prince.
I love how long they hold their shots in this scene with no unnecessary cutaways and bouncing back and forth. I miss movie making like this.
Stuart Ullman is a dead ringer for Ronald Reagan. His initials are S.U. but backwards, is U.S. In addition, his tie is red, shirt is white with stripes, and jacket is blue, the colors of the flag. He also has the flag prominently on his desk.
Also, Stuarts hands are placed forward when he does not speak.
This scene is so inviting and normal. Don'T do it JACK. Ughghghghhghghghghg