Babes in Toyland (Musical Hell Review

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 412

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 2 роки тому +242

    At least Keanu and Drew's careers survived this festive fisaco. While Drew is from a renowned acting family, and was an established Child actress, no one would have guessed that Keanu would be a huge star! 🌟

    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +24

      Thank goodness for that; otherwise, we may not have gotten Drew as one of our best-ever Cinderella's, or Keanu as John Wick! 😌

    • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
      @PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 роки тому +8

      Call me weird; Is it wrong I'd kill for Keanu to play Darth Revan?

    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +3

      @@PelinalDidNothingWrong Not at all! I've seen him in a fancast video edit alongside Kate Beckinsale as Bastila & they looked so convincing together you'd swear they were the real deal. 🖤🧡

    • @amityislandchum
      @amityislandchum 2 роки тому +6

      Jill Schoelen (Mary) may not have a massive career like Keanu and Drew, but she IS a certified Scream Queen, with an impressive resume of horror classics. And she ALSO has the honor of being Brad Pitt's first love and fiancee! She ended up dumping him, and he was apparently super heartbroken over it and wrote her all kinds of poetry in an effort to get her back, haha.

    • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
      @PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 роки тому +2

      @@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose Keanu is the one person who could pull of Revan well

  • @aceofspadefish4971
    @aceofspadefish4971 2 роки тому +194

    I feel like Lisa's arc of wanting to be a normal kid could have been great if it was better set up at the beginning. For instance, have a scene where the big sister offers to buy her the sled for Christmas and at first Lisa is super excited, then she remembers something practical that the family needs and turns the sled down while pretending to be okay about not getting it, even though it's obviously very difficult for her to do so. Then have scenes where Lisa is obviously torn between wanting to stay in the bright, colourful world of Toyland and her feeling that she is obligated to go home because the family needs her to keep being responsible, which she tries to cover by pretending like she wants to go home and is too "grown up" to enjoy Toyland. Then the climactic scene in the Toy Master's shop isn't that Lisa needs to "believe" in toys, but to admit how much she just wants to be a child.

    • @WOZ24601
      @WOZ24601 2 роки тому +18

      Can you head the team for the rewrite? This sounds fantastic.
      Inspired by someone else's comment, what if Lisa is emulating the stressed-out adult behavior she is seeing from her mother (single parent from what we see) and her older sister (working as a cashier seemingly to help the family)? Lisa may see being stern and serious as a normal stage of adulthood because of her family's circumstance, and it takes her journey to Toyland to learn that wanting to have fun and be a kid is not a bad thing. If there were smaller motifs throughout the piece of finding joy in the little things as well as the big things, she could bringing that whimsy home with her.

    • @michaelbuono4007
      @michaelbuono4007 2 роки тому +1

      Watch nostalgia critic review of this

    • @loneronin6813
      @loneronin6813 2 роки тому +3

      Your idea for the film is utterly brilliant! :D

    • @derekllewellyn6663
      @derekllewellyn6663 Рік тому +1

      @@michaelbuono4007 it's looks good I love it so much it's looks like really remember reel feel like really real life look back at movie theater TV series finale season start show hollywood story life look back on the best part of the day away magic of Drew Barrymore she was younger kid in 1986 years before cat's eye doctor called back in time travel would definitely be there by side effects from the past few days before New

  • @Eviltwin531
    @Eviltwin531 2 роки тому +106

    Oh... oh Sweet Lucifer...
    Flashback... *bad* flashback. For years, I have had a memory in my head of watching... something... on TV and the only scene I could recall of it were a bunch of people in a car singing a song that spelled out Cincinnati. I always assumed it was one of my grandmother's endless made-for-Lifetime "women in peril" movies and assumed I would never be able to find it again.
    But nope, this was it.
    What other awfulness is waiting in the dark corners of my mind to be unearthed?

    • @mrsmaggiekoch
      @mrsmaggiekoch 2 роки тому +1

      Yes! That song is pure evil!

    • @NaomiSlverflame
      @NaomiSlverflame 2 роки тому +1

      I remembered that song too! Never knew what it was from.

  • @ninavale.
    @ninavale. 2 роки тому +62

    . The "Blender" scene really did always get me as ridiculous. The family doesn't look like they're destitute, and like there are TONS of other more essential/practical presents that the girl could've asked for. But nope, it's a blender and the way Drew Barrymore talks about it seems like it's something they'd die without or smth. Also, the sister is working as a cashier at a toy store, and the mother is taking care of the kids too. So like it seems like she sort of took it upon herself to be Responsible AdultTM. Even tho there are other older people who are also responsible. Which doesn't make her seem like she "had to grow up too quickly" and more like someone whose idea of being grown-up and responsible is a killjoy, who loves to remind everyone to be serious and stern the moment they try to show a little humor and happiness. And who is actively going to invent "chores" for herself to do, even if there is nothing to do. Because she feels like she has to do "productive" things 100000% of the time. I feel like there is a bit of dissonance between what they want to tell and what is being shown.

  • @greenygal6641
    @greenygal6641 2 роки тому +46

    Honestly? I like the Cincinnati song. It's incredibly silly, sure, but it's catchy and fun. I think I would have cast it as something that, in the first go-round, the adults are enjoying but that Lisa is embarrassed to admit she likes. (Similarly, make the sled something she wants but tells herself and her sister she doesn't, because she's being responsible and has no time for toys; save her saying it's the best for after she gets back.) Then, when the zombie gas comes up, she has to call on happiness and love and good memories to fight it, and so she starts noisily singing this silly song about her home that she and her family really love, and it's that unashamed joy that saves the day (rather than the apparent mystical powers of Cincinnati itself).

  • @haileybalmer9722
    @haileybalmer9722 2 роки тому +27

    Twist: their dad was home the whole time, he's just extremely irresponsible.

  • @aarondvorak8100
    @aarondvorak8100 2 роки тому +16

    "It's Christmas Eve in Ohio and the weather is awful.....in addition to the general awfulness that is Ohio." As someone from Ohio yes this is true.

  • @Collageman90
    @Collageman90 2 роки тому +47

    There was one scene in the movie where it sounds like Keanu Reeves said "Over my dead butt!" that I just laughed my ass to. Also good review DIva and can't wait next month for your review of the German animated movie The Fearless Four which was James Ingram's only acting role in a movie. Rest in Peace James Ingram the legend!

  • @lauramaue
    @lauramaue 2 роки тому +118

    "the weather is awful... in addition to the general awfulness that is Ohio."
    HEY now. As someone who's lived in Ohio my entire life, -I'm offended- I agree wholeheartedly.

    • @locnar1
      @locnar1 2 роки тому +3

      I've been to Ohio 3 times. it wasn't horrible but it wasn't amazing. South Dakota on the other hand is boring and depressing.

    • @antonspivack3928
      @antonspivack3928 2 роки тому

      @@locnar1 At least SD has the Corn Palace.

    • @stevenmaginnis1965
      @stevenmaginnis1965 2 роки тому +2

      Keep making fun of Ohio like this and they'll elect more Republicans to office!

    • @antonspivack3928
      @antonspivack3928 2 роки тому

      Ohio does have the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

    • @eatatjoes6751
      @eatatjoes6751 2 роки тому

      Yep. This bland place sucks.

  • @TheLukeMonster
    @TheLukeMonster 2 роки тому +16

    17:39 - "What follows is one of the most beautifully hilariously awful two minutes ever committed to film, as we see the Toyland equivalent of a car chase." - The fact that Diva is clearly stifling her own laughter made that statement all the more satisfying to hear.
    It's sad, but after a century, Hollywood has yet to make a better version of Babes in Toyland than the 1934 "March of the Wooden Soldiers" with Laurel and Hardy.

  • @mountainhun
    @mountainhun 2 роки тому +97

    "Everything is strange and vague."
    "Are we dead?"
    "Or are we in Ohio?"

    • @rogue7723
      @rogue7723 2 роки тому

      I'm surprised Diva didn't show pictures of the Kent State shooting when she said "Have you even been there?"

    • @beethovensfidelio
      @beethovensfidelio 2 роки тому +8

      @@rogue7723 I’m glad that she didn’t because that would’ve been insensitive.

    • @rogue7723
      @rogue7723 2 роки тому +1

      @@beethovensfidelio Duly noted,

    • @patrickdrazen8411
      @patrickdrazen8411 2 роки тому +2

      "Young traveller, it is BOTH!"

    • @TommyDeonauthsArchives
      @TommyDeonauthsArchives 2 роки тому +1

      Toledo, Ohio! Don't get killed here!

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 2 роки тому +98

    Hearing an obvious adult Woman's voice coming out of eleven year old Drew Barrymore was pretty jarring. You could tell that they didn't put any thought into any details whatsoever! 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 2 роки тому +3

      These voice doubles are as bad as the ones in Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer: The Movie.
      (Regular visitors to Diva’s court would remember that one.)

    • @eoghanfeighery7383
      @eoghanfeighery7383 2 роки тому +2

      @@MovieFan1912 Don't forget Quest for Camelot and Return of Captain Invincible; though with the latter, it was probably intentional.

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 2 роки тому

      @@eoghanfeighery7383 Oh, yeah. Especially with the voice double for Pierce Brosnan’s character in the former.

    • @eoghanfeighery7383
      @eoghanfeighery7383 2 роки тому +1

      @@MovieFan1912 And Garret's not sounding like Cary Elwes.

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 2 роки тому

      @@eoghanfeighery7383 It’s clear throughout the entire movie that Warner Bros was trying to copy Disney, without any idea of what made those movies good to begin with.
      Much like the Playmobil movie years later.

  • @natsmith303
    @natsmith303 2 роки тому +38

    "He's a teddy-bear; what's he going to do about it?"
    >the Ewoks have entered the chat

  • @MrKlausbaudelaire
    @MrKlausbaudelaire 2 роки тому +67

    The one thing I think they improved in this version is the villain's costume. I really like the use of feathers and make up, giving the villain this aspect of a raven or a vulture, definitely a get up that deserves a little more praise than anytthing else in thios movie deserves.

  • @thecinematicmind
    @thecinematicmind 2 роки тому +11

    That Cincinnati song. My goodness is so bad it’s hilarious.

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean 2 роки тому +16

    5:00: For a minute there, I thought the whole car would be transported into Toyland. Instead, we just have the one Dorothy transported to the world of adventure alone, as is standard. Darn, something that could have made this story stand out a bit...
    16:35: _This plot device is brought to you by the Cincinnati Tourism Board._

  • @locnar1
    @locnar1 2 роки тому +3

    That poster for the old Wizard of Oz stage production...why is the Tin Woodsman playing the bagpipes?!

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 2 роки тому +34

    I always wonder what the Matrix in Toyland would be like.

    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +5

      Matrix in Toyland, co-starring Cinderella (er, Danielle). 😆

    • @Eviltwin531
      @Eviltwin531 2 роки тому +13

      You eat the blue candy cane-the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You eat the red candy cane-you stay in Toyland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I'm offering is the truth.

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 2 роки тому +4

      It would certainly be more interesting than this.

  • @TomMSTie1138
    @TomMSTie1138 2 роки тому +34

    As a pallet cleanser, I implore everyone to watch the 1934 Laurel and Hardy version. It's public domain and available right here on UA-cam. And there's 100% less Cincinnati.

    • @kaelang12
      @kaelang12 2 роки тому +8

      i also recommend the disney version with ed wynn and ray bolger. it's got that old-school cheese, plus the scarecrow from wizard of oz is the bad guy

    • @CamilleGregory98
      @CamilleGregory98 2 роки тому +1

      @@kaelang12 I grew up watching the Disney version. ❤️ The film may have some problems here or there, but I love it for what it is.

    • @Pepperjack1986
      @Pepperjack1986 2 роки тому +4

      I remember loving that version as a kid! My favorite part was at the end when Laurel realizes he's married to Barnaby. When asked why he's upset about it, he simply states "I don't love him!" So purehearted and fun!

    • @jamessheridan4306
      @jamessheridan4306 5 місяців тому +1

      Also all of the music heard in the film (including the background music) is by Herbert and faithfully reproduced, the primitive recording technique notwithstanding.

  • @jackmonaghan8477
    @jackmonaghan8477 2 роки тому +19

    Those fake anthropomorphic animals look more 'Wicker Man' than childish fantasy.

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 2 роки тому +2

      All we need is Nicolas Cage and we can get this party started.

    • @jackmonaghan8477
      @jackmonaghan8477 Рік тому +1

      @@MovieFan1912 Or Christopher Lee.

    • @rogue7723
      @rogue7723 Рік тому +1

      _NOT THE FURBYS!! NOT THE FURBYS!!!_ THEIR EYES!! OHO, THEIR _UNHOLY LIFELESS_ EYES!!!

  • @AndrewB..
    @AndrewB.. 2 роки тому +56

    It's time once again for one of the best parts of my month, MUSICAL HELL!

  • @TheSecondOpinion11
    @TheSecondOpinion11 2 роки тому +4

    "The sound-editing team is condemned to a holiday mix with nothing but various versions of Last Christmas."
    Oof. I felt that one XP

  • @GPischke
    @GPischke 2 роки тому +4

    If you ask me, Babes in Toyland is barely even a Christmas story at all. The Disney movie only mentions Christmas like twice.

  • @demh7823
    @demh7823 2 роки тому +9

    I'm sure a Patreon request has already been made for "Dear Evan Hanson".

    • @mimkyodar
      @mimkyodar 2 роки тому

      Oh that one has to be an anniversary episode, surely

  • @ryanschwartz4959
    @ryanschwartz4959 2 роки тому +9

    22:25
    Could be worse; Bricusse could’ve written a song singing the praises of Detroit…

  • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
    @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +39

    1:29 Hang on, Pat Morita's in this? Then a word of caution to you, Diva: Avoid all blue, glowing, 2D Britannica space castles! 💙🏰
    (Phelous viewers will know what I mean 😉).

    • @jeremyusreevu237
      @jeremyusreevu237 2 роки тому +8

      Indeed I do. 😊😊😊
      Do you believe in magic?

    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +8

      @@jeremyusreevu237 Do you believe in true love?

    • @jacksampsonforever
      @jacksampsonforever 2 роки тому +11

      Phelous is awesome and so is this comment. Too bad Pat's not wearing a lavender shirt ion this

    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +4

      @@jacksampsonforever He is indeed, and aw, thank you! At least we have Pat in a Gandalf beard. 😆

    • @Pepperjack1986
      @Pepperjack1986 2 роки тому +1

      @@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose "I do now!" ♥️

  • @CinemageddonReviews
    @CinemageddonReviews 2 роки тому +18

    Musical Hell is the gift that keeps on giving

  • @sweeney60
    @sweeney60 2 роки тому +3

    Okay I think I figured it out. This movie was trying to be a live action Rankin Bass special. The characters, plot, musical and overall look is clearly the same style of Rankin Bass stop motion movie. The problem is that in live action it looks cheep, dated and melodramatic whereas in stop motion it would have looked sweet, charming and timeless.

  • @rogue7723
    @rogue7723 2 роки тому +5

    @9:46 Or maybe "Grand Theft _Oreo."_

  • @demh7823
    @demh7823 2 роки тому +5

    Not even Jerry Springer thinks Cincinnati is all that great, and he was the Mayor.

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 2 роки тому +6

    🎵It's the notion of smoothing on a lotion🎵
    🎵Full of soothing potions🎵
    Mmm kinky.😏

  • @grodriguez7225
    @grodriguez7225 2 роки тому +6

    🎵On The Sixth Day of Christmas The Diva of Musical Hell gave to me The Gift Laughter🎵

  • @genericyoutubecommentchann7418
    @genericyoutubecommentchann7418 2 роки тому +9

    Not gonna lie, I actually like the Cincinnati song in an ironic way. It’s so cheesy and bad that it brings a smile to my face when I hear it.

  • @nickcopeland6915
    @nickcopeland6915 2 роки тому +4

    This was directed by Clive Donner, who also directed George C. Scott in the 1984 A Christmas Carol.

    • @eamonclark4952
      @eamonclark4952 10 місяців тому +1

      Clive Donner also directed Oliver Twist (1982) which is another Charles Dickens Adaptation starring George C Scott and also stars Tim Curry. He did a great job directing all three tv 📺 movies

  • @godzillasaurbuttersworth3176
    @godzillasaurbuttersworth3176 2 роки тому +22

    Oh GOD, this unlocked a dark, long repressed memory of watching this on tv years ago

  • @shadowjudge921
    @shadowjudge921 2 роки тому +5

    "Full"? "Uncut"?
    It's bad enough I have to walk down Memory Lane with this one. Now you're telling me there was more to it? 😱
    Diva, why do you delight in torturing me?

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 3 місяці тому

      She’s a demon. What did you expect?

  • @jerryrathgeb4412
    @jerryrathgeb4412 2 роки тому +7

    Well, THAT was painful. And I only saw about twenty minutes. I doubt I could watch all of it without physical illness (ie. tossing MY cookies).
    I hope that all those involved in this got decent paychecks at least. It's the only excuse for this treacly mess.

  • @janebyrne6463
    @janebyrne6463 2 роки тому +3

    When I hear about Babes in Toyland, I think of the 1930's Laurel and Hardy film March of the Wooden Soldiers. On WPIX (the NYC channel that ultimately became NYC's the CW), they would play that every Thanksgiving when I was a little girl. I would like to see this channel put their two cents on this movie.

  • @SodaPopBarbecue
    @SodaPopBarbecue 2 роки тому +3

    Somebody play the Cincinnati song during the rest of the College Football season.
    See what kind of hell on earth kind of football happens.

  • @andyleclerc3600
    @andyleclerc3600 2 роки тому +6

    As God is their witness they thought this turkey could fly (props if you get the Cincinnati reference here).

  • @pocketsizeforyourtravelcon3325
    @pocketsizeforyourtravelcon3325 2 роки тому +20

    I grew up watching this film at my babysitters house. I thought it was so great because I lived in Cincinnati. I recently watched it as an adult with my mom (I’m now 33) and she was so freaked out about the villain’s henchman (the bird looking guy that drew berrymore paints over his eye). I guess I forgot how weird and kinda scary this movie could be.

  • @sweeney60
    @sweeney60 2 роки тому +10

    I’ve been waiting for you to review this movie for years and it did not disappoint. I fairly enjoyed this movie as a kid for how unbelievably silly it is. Though it hasn’t aged well and wasn’t that good to begin with, I do kind of love Pat Morita as Santa Claus. Race bending classic characters was not super common at the time and the fact that they allowed an Asian actor to play the role without making it an Asian stereotype is pretty fricken cool. I kinda wish the movie was just focused on Pat as Santa, that would have been far more interesting.

  • @GeneralKenobi75
    @GeneralKenobi75 2 роки тому +8

    Oh if you think this one was bad, try watching the animated one from the 90s. Yes, that exists.

    • @ilikecurry2345
      @ilikecurry2345 2 роки тому

      That's not Babes in Toyland, that's something much different - Miracle in Toyland, with magic floating feathers, Superduperguy referencing the actual Superman when it comes to flying as a superpower, implied cousincest, and an overarching plot about how he misses his daddy and wishes he'd get back from war. Oh yeah, there's also a toy department store.
      EDIT: Oh. Apparently there IS a Babes in Toyland animated messterpiece featuring Christopher Plummer.

    • @GeneralKenobi75
      @GeneralKenobi75 2 роки тому

      @@ilikecurry2345 The latter with Christoper Plummer is what I was referring to. I do know of Miracle in Toyland, but the one with Plummer is much more of adaptation of the musical. Both came out in the 90s so I get why you are confused, but the Babes in Toyland is what I was referring to, not the Goodtimes one.

  • @karrihart1
    @karrihart1 2 роки тому +4

    And then Barnaby left Toyland to go hang out with the Golden Girls.

  • @jamesonstalanthasyu
    @jamesonstalanthasyu 2 роки тому +4

    And wrt to the evil smoke not affecting lisa, in my head I was thinking, "She's from Cincinnati Ohio, she's already infused with evil"

  • @TheChaosDragoness
    @TheChaosDragoness 2 роки тому +6

    Oh sweet Lucifer, I remember watching this in my music class when I was 9 or 10 in elementary school. The only thing that made it memorable and somewhat bearable was my friend (and the boy I had a kiddie crush on at the time) was sitting next to me riffing on the movie with me the whole time.

  • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
    @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +24

    6:05 Oh man, I *knew* Mary sounded familiar! That's Jill Schoelen? Wow, from a cheap a.f. Babes in Toyland flick to the Robert Englund time & space-travelling horror Phantom? Damn, that's certainly one way to move forward in your career! 😆 (Though in all honesty, I quite liked her iteration of Christine. She starts out hopeful & starry-eyed, but as soon as she discovers the truth behind her so-called "Angel," she quickly takes action in trying to free herself from his hold 😊).

  • @TheJFish94
    @TheJFish94 2 роки тому +4

    Can you do the Dear Evan Hanson movie for Musical Hell's 10th Anniversary?
    Also: that's Bertie the Bus's Series 4 horn at 17:52.

  • @TemporaryButterfly
    @TemporaryButterfly 2 роки тому +2

    Coily the spring sprite? Was that an MST3K reference in the wild? Bless you for enduring this wild movie.

  • @Lawnie
    @Lawnie 2 роки тому +2

    DIVA. Cincinnatti? Really? That's almost as cruel as sending the man to Cleveland!

  • @sewthernbelle
    @sewthernbelle 2 роки тому +4

    The uncut version?! I didn't even know this existed! To the Internet!

    • @VideoDuffelBag
      @VideoDuffelBag 2 роки тому

      Yeah, this is news to me as well.
      I remember my parents buying the home video copy from McDonald's for five or six bucks with a Big Mac or something to that extent and became one of those tapes my younger sibs would run ad nauseam.

  • @DocZFlux
    @DocZFlux 2 роки тому +9

    This honestly doesn’t seem nearly as bad as other tv specials spotlighted on here like Peter Pan Live and Kiss Meets Phantom of the Park, mainly because it seems a lot more forgettable.

  • @shepherdaaron9683
    @shepherdaaron9683 2 роки тому +4

    As a Cincinnati native and current resident who loves it here even I cannot defend this “Cincinnati holds the key to defeating toy based evil”

    • @Cure_Hana
      @Cure_Hana 2 роки тому +2

      What’s with all the jokes calling Ohio a shit-hole, anyway? I know there are some seedier parts of Cincinnati, but I’m still proud to live in the area. It’s not a complete train wreck like Detroit or San Diego.

    • @shepherdaaron9683
      @shepherdaaron9683 2 роки тому +4

      @@Cure_Hana right? Like
      It’s not a bad city, and there are definitely less interesting and much more unsafe major cities to live in

  • @Regfife
    @Regfife 2 роки тому +9

    Watched this a couple of times when I was a kid. I always got "bad touch" vibes from the way the trolls manhandled the Toyland residents.

    • @mrlaz9011
      @mrlaz9011 2 роки тому +1

      At least they didn't leak their ip addresses.

  • @toysvilltvstudios7576
    @toysvilltvstudios7576 2 роки тому +2

    Remembering watching this and got the VHS not too long ago. It's a guilty Pleasure of ours. ^^ and How pictured Toyland to be. WITH TOYS! and not just Nursery Rhymes and spooky trees. (Looking at you Disney's Babes in Toyland...)

  • @BloodylocksBathory
    @BloodylocksBathory 2 роки тому +2

    "This time no more being SUBTLE!" sounds like it was ad-libbed lol.

  • @knightandneedle
    @knightandneedle 2 роки тому +7

    So, I know you don’t usually do multiple versions of the same thing, and this is definitely the worst version of Babes in Toyland (that I know of) but I’d be really interested in hearing Diva’s thoughts on the ‘61 Disney version, which was a favorite of mine growing up, due to the costumes. But there’s still plenty of sins in it.

    • @Kahran042
      @Kahran042 2 роки тому +1

      If it helps, Miss Nightmare reviewed it on her Vimeo channel.

  • @douglasfreer
    @douglasfreer 2 роки тому +2

    When Lisa started singing at first I thought it was just you doing the ‘switching song for something more cringy’ before realizing that’s the actual song.
    I had only seen the VHS version and I think the Cincinnati song was the only song remaining so most of the editing was getting rid of the songs and trimming other scenes.

  • @jenniferschillig3768
    @jenniferschillig3768 2 роки тому +27

    Is the 2006 The Year Without A Santa Claus a full musical, or did they cut everything but the Snow Miser/Heat Miser songs? Because that would be a great one for next holiday season. There's also The Rapsittie Street Kids (even if you did do that one on MHTV), Eight Crazy Nights, the Rankin-Bass Cricket On The Hearth, The Grinch Live, A Christmas Story Live (a terrible letdown, since I love the score), Santa And The Ice Cream Bunny (either version), The Christmas That Almost Wasn't, and so on...

    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +2

      Oh God, a channel I'm subbed to (Simon's Rants) just reminded me of Grinch Live's existence through a drunk review he just posted and let's just say, I'm *so* glad I decided to click away from its premiere last year when I had the chance. 🙃

    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +3

      Also, there's a movie called Saving Santa that involves time-travelling elves & Tim Curry voicing a villain called Neville Baddington (yes, really) that seems to have some songs in it. Idk if there are enough to qualify, but if so, then that could work too. 🎄

    • @mightyfilm
      @mightyfilm 2 роки тому +1

      Whatever I can try to repress of that reprehensible TV movie version of what was a weird enough Rakin Bass special, I can't seem to remember anything but the Heat Miser/Snow Miser song. What I do remember is how many at the moment references they felt they needed to shove in so incredibly clumsy they had a line about how the main child protagonist wasn't part of the childhood obesity epidemic. You can't forget a line that shallow and pathetic. I really want someone to rip that travesty apart.

    • @jenniferschillig3768
      @jenniferschillig3768 2 роки тому +3

      @@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose Also, I forgot to mention the 1997 DTV animated musical version of A Christmas Carol that featured the voices of Tim Curry and Jodi Benson. And Whoopi Goldberg as a gender-flipped Ghost of Christmas Present. That would be prime fodder for an MHTV episode, a Musical Hell takedown, or both.

    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +1

      @@jenniferschillig3768 Haha yes, I forgot about that one but you're right, having seen it once before myself, that would be perfect for either of Diva's series! 😆🎄

  • @ericjanssen394
    @ericjanssen394 2 роки тому +4

    Ever look up the ORIGINAL libretto for the Victor Herbert operetta? It’s one weird, dark, mama.
    Hal Roach made up the Laurel & Hardy version, because he was putting them in any operetta with two dumb henchmen, Disney did their version of the L&H version, and this one,…I have NO idea, except that Irwin Allen had access to said off-season theme park.

  • @BenVarkentine
    @BenVarkentine 2 роки тому +3

    22:32 Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, lady. Let's not be hatin' on George Michael, now. "Wonderful Christmastime," * that* you can have at...

  • @felisd
    @felisd 2 роки тому +2

    The sad thing is: I've yet to see or read the original story of Babes in Toyland, so this version is the only one I associate with the story. For the longest time, I didn't even know it wasn't remotely like the original and confused the hell out of anyone I talked to about it.

  • @benburke3015
    @benburke3015 2 роки тому +4

    I legit clicked on this thinking "Ooh, which one is Diva gonna talk about?", because there are a surprising number of 'Babes in Toyland' adaptations. There's an animated version starring Lacey Chabert and Christopher Plummer for crying out loud lol.

    • @Zulf85
      @Zulf85 2 роки тому +1

      I remember the animated one - I'm pretty sure I wore that video out when I was like 3. I think a few memories of it are wedged somewhere between watching my sister play Sonic games and early days of school

    • @maniacaldude
      @maniacaldude 2 роки тому

      You mean the one co-directed by Don Bluth's brother Toby?

    • @benburke3015
      @benburke3015 2 роки тому

      @@maniacaldude Yes. I didn't actually know that until literally right now lol.

  • @zackrules4797
    @zackrules4797 2 роки тому +5

    Say, Diva, can you cover FernGully 2 The Magical Rescue someday in the future, since that film is considered as one of the worst animated sequels of all time.

  • @kelleyceccato7025
    @kelleyceccato7025 2 роки тому +2

    Ah, for the 1934 film in which "Bogeyland" was honest-to-God terrifying.
    Paul (The Pigman) Zindel wrote this? Boy, talk about an off day.
    Still looking for some Christmas entertainment with a female character at its center, that is actually GOOD. So far, girls are getting all the bad ones (first Christmas Is Here Again, now this). I love the 1947 Miracle on 34th Street, but it really shouldn't have to carry the ball alone.

  • @williamswonderland3636
    @williamswonderland3636 2 роки тому +13

    The lady in the shoe running an orphanage is a unique idea outher then that Disney did it better

  • @swamplinglvr
    @swamplinglvr 2 роки тому +2

    I can't believe I forgot that I saw this movie until you showed the clip of Pat Morita painting the trollywog's eye. That was the one thing I can remember from it. To quote Keanu Reeves: "Whoah".

  • @Pepperjack1986
    @Pepperjack1986 2 роки тому +1

    I had the VHS copy, so had no idea that there was so much more!...And am so glad I didn't have the full uncut version after seeing this!!

  • @pacoromes
    @pacoromes Рік тому +1

    Every appearance of Dark Helmet over the course of this series causes me uncontrollable laughter.

  • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
    @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +7

    Oh wow, for some reason I had the Oliver Hardy/Stan Laurel version in mind for this one, as that's the one I mainly watched as a kid before becoming better acclimated to the source material when I joined my local high school production. 😆💂‍♂️

  • @mrsmaggiekoch
    @mrsmaggiekoch 2 роки тому +3

    My husband's brother got married in Cincinnati and THAT AWFUL SONG was consequently stuck in my head the whole wedding weekend. I now have an irrational hatred for the city as a whole.

    • @eatatjoes6751
      @eatatjoes6751 2 роки тому +1

      That's neat, we hate it here too.

  • @LittleAlternativeGirl
    @LittleAlternativeGirl 2 роки тому +18

    I think I saw this only once on Fox Family/ABC Family/Free-Form and even then as a kid I thought this was kinda bad. But bb!Keanu and Barnaby kept me watching lol.
    While it does have a weird place in my heart, if I had to choose an adaptation of Babes in Toyland, I'm going with the Disney version.

    • @TommyDeonauthsArchives
      @TommyDeonauthsArchives 2 роки тому

      There's a Disney Version!?

    • @colleen4ever
      @colleen4ever 2 роки тому

      @@TommyDeonauthsArchives Yep, it starred Annette Funicello and Ed Wynn as the toymaker, and trust me, it was a LOT BETTER than this!!

  • @andysee6996
    @andysee6996 2 роки тому +2

    It sounds like between the 90-minute cut and the 145-minute cut, you're better off with the shorter version.

  • @Sandlot1992
    @Sandlot1992 2 роки тому +1

    I remember seeing this before on Fox Family (then called ABC Family and now called Freeform) in the late 90s!

  • @stuartkenny7430
    @stuartkenny7430 Рік тому +1

    It wouldn't be the last time Drew Barrymore's singing got dubbed, it happened again on Woody Allen's Everyone Says I Love You, although Barrymore told Allen up front that she couldn't sing.

  • @DrGregoryHouseIT
    @DrGregoryHouseIT 2 роки тому +1

    So this is Babes In Five Nights At Freddy's.
    And Jill Schoelen also had to deal with a murderous stepfather.

  • @arrow_of_ravenclaw5155
    @arrow_of_ravenclaw5155 2 роки тому +8

    This reminds me of the good days of nostalgia critic

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 2 роки тому +3

      Me too, I miss Pre Revival Nostalgia Critic, and it's one of his best old reviews!

    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose 2 роки тому +1

      @@trinaq Really? I'll have to check that one out then!

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 2 роки тому +2

      @@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose Yes, funnily enough, his review aired exactly 10 years ago today, in 2011!

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 2 роки тому +1

      Yes. I miss the days before #ChangeTheChannel

    • @colleen4ever
      @colleen4ever 2 роки тому +1

      @@Rabbitlord108 I miss when he was actually the NOSTALGIA CRITIC!

  • @ilikecurry2345
    @ilikecurry2345 2 роки тому +3

    Georgie Peorgie pudding and pie, kissed the girls and made them CHEAT AT VIDEO GAMES.

  • @fanofmusicals
    @fanofmusicals 9 місяців тому

    The use of the clip from Scream was brilliant!
    As to the editing, I watched the uncut version for the first time this holiday season thanks to a UA-cam upload. When comparing it to the shortened version (as I did via Kino Lorber's recent Blu-ray release), the edits become much more noticeable.

  • @eamonclark4952
    @eamonclark4952 2 роки тому +2

    This film was directed by: Clive Donner the director of the George C Scott Christmas Carol

  • @apophis9061
    @apophis9061 2 роки тому +3

    Oh you think this is bad? Watch the 1934 one! It’s a bit of a seasonal tradition in my household to watch and give commentary on it. It’s got to be one of the worst films I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen Santa Claus and the Martians.

    • @colleen4ever
      @colleen4ever 2 роки тому

      Laurel and Hardy?!?! Don;t you DARE call it bad!!

    • @apophis9061
      @apophis9061 2 роки тому

      @@colleen4ever oh it’s not just bad, it’s the WORST

  • @akemimediapr8616
    @akemimediapr8616 2 роки тому +3

    Wow. I never saw this.....not sure how I missed this "masterpiece." :) Love the Musical Hell reviews!

  • @babyrodent
    @babyrodent 2 роки тому +2

    While watching this, Mom told me that she has the DVD rip of this version that was on video. We already have the Disney version (which is what I prefer due to Ray Bolger as Barnaby- which retroactively gave it a better connection to Wizard of Oz- and the Toy Soldiers), but learning this from her... I don't know how to feel about it.

  • @bizarroguy6570
    @bizarroguy6570 2 роки тому +2

    5:12 going through a tree is how she made it? My god! It’s a sequel to A Nightmares Before Christmas Prequel! A crappy one! It’s a musical Phantom Menace.

  • @quantummelody2959
    @quantummelody2959 2 роки тому +2

    How is it a new episode always seems to come out while I'm in the middle of a musical hell episode binge XD

  • @waterdog737
    @waterdog737 2 роки тому +2

    If we didn't get a Candy Land version something like the God Father Grand Theft Auto, and/or some kinda of Law Drama I might take this Special to court myself

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 роки тому +18

    I've never actually seen Babes in Toyland until this review aaaaaannnnnddd holy shit I wish I'd kept it that way!
    Keanu Reeves is literally the only good thing I took away from this...and I'm not even the biggest fan of him

    • @colleen4ever
      @colleen4ever 2 роки тому

      I swear...does he ever age?!

    • @Zulf85
      @Zulf85 2 роки тому +1

      Keanu isn't the best actor, but he seems like a good egg. I suppose I have to respect him and the rest of the cast for being able to get the bread from this thing lmao

  • @JediLadyMisty
    @JediLadyMisty 2 роки тому +2

    I saw this years ago on TV and was really confused as I didn’t realize that ‘Babes in Toyland’ was public domain (thanks to this I now know) and wondered how it tied the one that had stolen sheep and the singing trees.

  • @TheApoohneicie
    @TheApoohneicie 2 роки тому +3

    OMG I needed this so much today! Thank you Diva darling!!!❤️

  • @KrazyKelor
    @KrazyKelor 2 роки тому +1

    Good
    Gravy
    I remember struggling to describe what happens in this fever dream.
    Halloween Town this ain’t.

  • @wattsink2009
    @wattsink2009 5 місяців тому +1

    16:36
    This could almost be salvaged if the idea was that she was immune to the effects of the evil smoke because she is not native to this environment (not unlike how Sora, Donald, and Goofy are immune to the curse of the Aztec gold in the Pirates Of The Caribbean world in KH2).
    🤔
    Unfortunately, the fact that the others are saved by her stupid song throws a wrench into that theory.
    🤦‍♂️

  • @thema1998
    @thema1998 2 роки тому +6

    Although I haven't seen the previous two episodes of Musical Hell, I'm still going to watch the "Babes in Toyland" episode now.
    EDITS- 4:01 P.M.: *finishes episode 28 minutes later*
    It's good that Drew and Keanu both moved on to bigger and better things.
    4:07 P.M.: I know that Drew was in "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial" as a little kid.
    4:13 P.M.: It's just that she ended up going through a career slump at some point. Then again, Keanu also went through a career slump! 😅

    • @ilikecurry2345
      @ilikecurry2345 2 роки тому

      Well, Musical Hell isn't really meant to be watched in a given order.

  • @beckyhop13
    @beckyhop13 2 роки тому +2

    Hey, it could be worse for Mary; her mother could've remarried to a serial killing Terry O'Quinn

  • @Stequal2
    @Stequal2 2 роки тому +1

    I literally have a playlist of just Last Christmas covers...

  • @eamonclark4952
    @eamonclark4952 10 місяців тому

    “Babes In Toyland” (1986) was from Director Clive Donner (the director of the 1984 A Christmas Carol adaptation starring George C Scott)

  • @tylerelliott7642
    @tylerelliott7642 2 роки тому +2

    Gotta love muscial hell, lil youtube vacation for me whenever a new installment drops

  • @peteyboy009
    @peteyboy009 2 роки тому +3

    Lol I know it's horrible but I watch this version for Christmas every year. It's a tradition lol

  • @ZipplyZane
    @ZipplyZane 2 роки тому +1

    10:09 I'm glad they cut that song in the VHS version. It would have really bugged kid me, since we'd already heard what Lisa's singing voice was supposed to sound like.
    I guess even the creators realized it was stupid.
    Edit: We also don't get the rest of the song while they're in jail, either. I believe they get the keys, maybe we see Mary run in and unlock Jack's cell and trap the jailer, and then they all run out together talking about how great it was.
    I'm actually glad they chose to just keep in the cars driving around instead.

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane 2 роки тому

      I also don't remember Barnaby having a song at that point. I seem to remember that we learn about the letter when Mary reads it.
      And, yes, they cut Lisa's other song. You may now start to understand why I wondered why this movie would be on your show.

  • @martind349
    @martind349 2 роки тому +1

    To expand on the "at least" vein, at least Cincinnati ordered the right bridge!

  • @Spectra651
    @Spectra651 2 роки тому +1

    I now want to see an alternate ending of this movie where, in a cruel twist of fate while attempting to summon her belief in toys (yeah, that still sounds dumb no matter how you say it), Lisa accidentally summons Coily the Spring Sprite instead who proceeds to Thanos snap all the springs inside the toy soldiers into non-existence, thereby dooming all of Toyland for eternity. Then when Lisa, grief-stricken tears running down her cheeks, her fallen comrades littering the ground around her, asks why he's done this terrible thing, Coily's only response is: "No springs!"

    • @colleen4ever
      @colleen4ever 2 роки тому

      I LOVE IT!!! Fellow MST3K fan!