A Replica Les Paul Worth As Much As A Car
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*Any* Les Paul is worth more than my car. :D
MravacKid not Epiphone!
Used epiphone special with a cracked neck???
Mine too
Word bro! I don't even have a car but my Eastman Sb59 sunburst sings like she should! Nitro version not the violin varnish they also offer.
When I first began building guitars in 1980, a lot of people were swapping those "old, weak PAF's" for DiMarzio and Seymour Duncans. I have boxes of them, I rarely sell them. Then brass hardware hit, I boxed up tons of old hardware too. When the Floyd Rose craze hit, I acquired boxes of old Pre CBS Single Coils. Nobody wanted this stuff. About 20yrs ago, I got a truck load of old growth woods from a 90yr old woodworker I knew for a long time. He was long since retired and knew I would treasure it as much as he did. It included Honduran Mahogany, Brazilian Rosewood, Swamp Ash, Ebony, Maple, and many others. I got the most ridiculously collection of figured woods too, all aged for 25 - 50 yrs. I have Mahogany big enough to build an entire guitar out of. I put it aside in a safe place, using it sparingly.
I made myself a collection of guitars (I play Lefty), a few Les Pauls, Explorers, old Strat & Tele replicas with the woods, pickups and hardware that I acquired over the years, using old hide glues, and non plasticiser lacquers, it makes a difference. They are precious to me.
A warning: Within 5yrs, I lost 3 friends to similar cancers. The one thing they all had in common, they all sprayed nitrocellulose without much protection. This stuff is dangerous, it's beyond flammable and will kill you slowly over time.
That is a powerful story. Thank you for sharing. That is a great point to also bring up, is why they stop using some of this things. Thank you for posting
Fred Garvin I have a similar story of friends who build custom knives using carbon grips that during grinding , finishing and polishing didn't use air purifying respirators.... carbon dust is highlly fine and toxic....
RIP your inbox.
I am also a lefty. Do you have any of your lefty models for sale?
Id be curious to hear more about the lacquer and such.
That Edward Van Halen fellow took a fifty dollar guitar, put some decent hardware on it and rocked the entire world.
Exactly! It’s the player, not the guitar. EVH could have made a Squire sound amazing.
Its true.
what if my car is made out of original '59 Les Pauls?
Surprised Joe Bonamassa hasn’t approached you to purchase it yet
The sustain goes forever.....
A guitar hero guitar is worth more than my car
Number8 Good one,,,lmao
Thanx , that was my laugh for the day.....
Ha!
You win!
Lmao! Really sad though!😂
When I was a kid and looking at guitars, we called a 59 Les Paul a used Les Paul. I have to laugh at anyone paying $200,000 for one. Ridiculous! They may have a bit of voodoo but let’s be real honest, it’s the player, not the guitar. Such hype.
Yep, stamp and baseball card collectors. The "worth" is only in the minds of the next supposed buyer.
As long as gibson custom shop exists, anyone can get a '59 les paul. The most any guitar should go for is $20k. Anything more and you might as well forget that Lamborghini because now youve got an over-hyped block of wood
@milesonaught that doesn't sound believable in the slightest... how would gibson management even get a hold of your friends? I've bought multiple gibsons from this year that sound like absolute magic and I don't see anything off about it, so I call B S on alot of what people have to say about gibson, the company as a whole does an outstanding job to provide quality.
I've not played one so can't say. You have? It's interesting to research Stradivarius violins and cellos - apparently all extant examples have replacement necks, bridges, nuts, tuning pegs and ebony boards. It's only the body that is worth millions.
Hype, and just as importantly, limited supply.
I tried a 1955 Les paul goldtop a week ago in a vintage ac30. Amazing experience...
The reason '59 Les Pauls are so expensive is because Pete Townsend single handedly destroyed most of them on stage in the '60s.
They were Rickenbackers. He didn't start playing Les Pauls until the 70s.
No he. Didn’t
It’s a joke guys
Lol
LOL
People are attracted to certain guitars not just by the sound coming out of the amplifier, but also by the feel of the guitar in the hands and against the body--vibrations that transfer from the guitar to the human body when you whack the strings. That said, I think the guitar construction does contribute to the sound. Play a solid body guitar with a pickup and then play a hollow body guitar with same exact pickup - you'll hear a difference. Guitars don't output simple sine waves. Their output is complex, affected by the guitar construction, the pickups, the strings, the nut.
jrsmoots I agree. There are many factors at work.
Phil, your videos are so awesome. I always learn something every time I watch. Merry Christmas, big guy.
Been watching a couple years and yor vids are still great. I love seeing how the production and content have evolved.
Damn that guitar worth more than venezuela!
Where did you get those 2 very expensive guitars??
Informative, as always. Thanks.....BTW, my Know Your Gear T-shirt arrived yesterday, can't wait to get the word out there up here in Toronto!!!!
The best thing about your videos is that one or two things you mention stick in the back of my mind, and I always end up going back to hear what it was a 2nd time. Nice trick!
I've got a question. Many people believe that wood, glue and other things that change the tone have no effect. They say that the pickup and the magnet interact with the strings and your touch and make the sound. My question is: Does the vibrating of a guitar (which it obviously does) affect the way the strings vibrate? You hit the strings, strings make the guitar vibrate and that vibration gets transferred back to the string, is the idea. Love to see your responses!
Very cool information! Thanks for the video.
I love good info like this, keep it coming!!!!
Excellent! I learned a lot today. Thanks!
you have one of the best music and gear channel on UA-cam, great job
Thanks for your channel and valuable content... Saw your video a few months ago, then bumped recently with several stories of the nice Hunterburst Max Les Paul's that Slash first got and lost youknowbecauseofwhy, then the AFD album sessions, the Derrig Les Paul, the sad passing of Derrig... and all that ending in Gibson issuing a Slash signature LP certifiying the higher quality of replicas. Super interesting stuff.
Great video - very informative - Thanks!
hey Phil, awesome meeting you today, thanks for all the good info. I'll definitely have to visit again sometime. and maybe buy something lol
Thanks for the knowledge
Now THAT is a flame. Stunning.
Great video Phillip. What were you using to get that great tone?
Very interesting. Enjoyed the schooling.
Before watching your channel I didn't know crap about "the guitar" .... I am a one man band / singer who accompanies himself with acoustic , electric , B9 organ machine , elec. drummer , etc ... so your channel is a real education ... thanks again for this !!!!
Great video Phillip. Keep it up.
Hey Phil I see you changed the title of this video. I have no idea if it's because I mentioned it but it shows what a class act you are. The builder of these guitars put his heart and soul into these replicas. Thx
+Wade Wilson i liked your comment about it being a Replica not a copy. Very good point, so i changed it. Thank you
The 59" with the pickguard was one of the nicest I've ever heard
I use a special glue only obtained by the lower beak of a Bald Eagle. It takes nearly 200 beaks to make one guitar. The wood I use can only be found off the coast of South America and is at a depth of 1,200 feet. All of the wood is hand sawn by dwarves with diamond encrusted resin blades. After each guitar is finiahed, all the dwarves are slain and the wood soaks in their blood. The final clear coat is made from the tears of a platypus and dried black rino scrotum skin which is flaked and mixed.
Each guitar takes 2 generations to age in a Templar Knights hidden wine cellar. After aging, if any defects are found the guitar is destroyed by a certified Guitar Center manager.
First off, Gibson used Formaldehyde glue, non animal based, on the Les Pauls in the 50's. The large surface area of the top to body was too large for hide glue to cure properly in a reasonable length of time for production. It's a fallacy that glue adds to tone, with proper joinery and decent and far superior glues like Titebond.
Enjoyed this - learned a bit about old school geetars too.... Lovin the Powerbrake btw.... my favourite addition to my Supersonic :-) Cheers dude!
Thanks, Phillip, Great bit of history.
I've owned 8 Maxes, 5 Derrigs, 7 og Gibson burst 59s, and 9 R9s over the years -- nothing beats my Melissa Etheridge Limited Edition 1995 Ovation though.
I've had many LPs.. from Studios to R8 and R9s... all great guitars in their own right... but these oldies have that mojo no newer guitars could duplicate... and I stick to the fact that this old growth Honduran mahogany is one huge part of the alchemy... I mean, I know a guy in Halifax NS who owns a 53 Goldtop and man, that thing is soooo light and resonant... it's pure magic really...
This video in on Guitar Worlds website, Way to go Phil!
Lovely burst finish on that Max copy. I'd have one over a Gibson Custom model any day. Wasn't he famous for supplying some of his guitars to upcoming bands who needed one for recording or something?
Awesome! Great video. Cheers.
Great post.., informative, concise, pleasant.. you are to be thanked for your communication skills!! Thank you!
Thanks for the Info Phil. When are you going to review the Supro?
I have always used a special formulation of Turtle Wax and Turtle soup when polishing my Les Paul. The turtle's shell is very resonant, and the nutrients derived from the soup greatly enhance the timbre of the instrument.
*+Dave Chum* I've just been rubbing mine with a turtle. One time, at band camp, I didn't have a turtle so I used a tortoise and my guitar was left-handed for almost a week.
Lindy Fralin make superb sounding pickups, have them on two strats and a tele custom.
Hey Phil: Got any breakdown on when those changes occurred in the average LP i.e. old growth Mahogany, animal glues, hand assembly, etc?
Great vids! Thnx
HEY...I'VE WATCHED YOUR VIDEO'S FROM THE HOUSE 4 A LONG TIME NOW' ENJOY YOUR COMMENTARY'S....I'LL BE WATCHING FROM THE HOUSE!!!!!!
Great video mate 🤘🏻
That was cool. I'd like more 'story time', on Classic Gear.
I have a modified 2013 Trad (Burstbuckers, Emerson caps, bone nut) that sounds pretty sick. You'd have to spend a LOT of money to get something that sounds noticeably better in the LP vein.
OMG guitar finish? So you need to buy the Gibson tone polish?
Got to make sure that your guitar is as highly polished as your Cherry Red '65 Ford Twin I Beam Pickup when you drop the tailgate and rock the party.
THAT WAS THE GUITAR I WAS DIGGIN ON HARD IN THE WEBCAST WITH SAMMY ASH, GREAT LOOKING GUITAR, TO ME WHAT A LP SHOULD LOOK LIKE
thank u, very informative. so if i want that true to original sound, the main thing is the pickups u mentioned? which ones should i get for a 3 pickup black beauty copy like jimmy page's? thanx 4 any info.
Glass good, plastic bad? A few years ago I had the pleasure of seeing Cheap Trick in a small venue with a P.A. that was not overly loud. When Rick Neilson got out the perspex guitar it just blew the Gibsons, Hamers and Fenders away. The sound was so much more in focus. You could hear the individual notes in the chords rather than just a roar, and it did not seem that he was using less gain on those songs. Presumably the difference was not so marked where he was on stage. If he had been hearing what the audience was hearing he'd have used that axe for every number.
I want one haha I also believe that everything you mentioned does affect tone , I have had a good amount of Gibson les Paul's my les Paul's now are a 73 custom and a 2001 standard I just sold a 2012 standard that guitar was awsonme sounding but I had problems with it first the input kept getting loose also the three way switch was always loose than the fifth frett trapazoid fell out weird finally I sold it at a big loss and I bought it new but whatever , but never had any problems with the old one
good info. TY
My 52 Les Paul had no finish on it. It was natural. And because it was that old, the stain on it, the natural color, had gone into a very warm gold tan color. Handy thing about a guitar like that. You're never worried about the finish. Whatever you bump into it..your shoe at night, etc., the guitar was harder than it. Original pots...and they were never noisy. Ever. What did they do right back then that they can't do now? Now, a toggle switch wears out. Interesting color to that 52 fretboard...it had a slight purple tone. Dark, brown black purple.
What do you know about Larry Corsa's Les Pauls? I'm thinking about getting one.
Fantastic video as always. Love your channel. However 59s were not 100% Hyde glue. The tops were glued using formaldehyde resin to increase productivity time.
Thanks for posting. I enjoyed the video. When referring to plastic-based glues, do you mean to say that they add damping when compared to the dried animal hide glue?
how did you get your hands on those? are they loaners or did you mortgage your house?
+Phillip McKnight I'm not trying to be argumentative, but from my understanding, and I could be wrong about this, is that Nitrocellulose Lacquer finishes never really harden or "cure", and in some people's opinion, allow the guitar to resonate more. While the Polyurethane or Polyester finishes actually do harden almost immediately. Also, from my understanding, that is why a "Nitro" finished guitar ages in a different way than a guitar finished in "Poly", (nitro wears, fades, and checks. poly cracks and chips). Just my thoughts!
So how do you get the Fralin's into the P90 pickup cavity? I love the sound of those!
You forgot a very important part that allows those pickups to really sing-the Centralab pots. These don't sound like modern pots today and are a major part of 'Burst' sound.
The best LP I ever had had a body made from ash with a Honduras mahogany top and a neck from umbunga with Lignum Vitae fingerboard and Beryllium copper frets.
Cool video. Wondering what that odd white guitar is at 0:17?
Loved when you talked about Max and the "magical" things that went into the LP's. Snake oil and bs will earn one a lot of money. I keep a supply of shovels and waist high boots for the contemporary piles that are inherent in today's society. Perception is indeed reality. The Guitar Matrix.
a bad finish doesnt let vibrations transfer correctly? between what and what? the guitar and the air around it?
Great video!!!
I prefer the 59 1/2 that had the bodies aged in baby seal blood and then rubbed with ancient aged goat skins while priests chanted in the back ground. Perfect tone every time.
Dude I gotta hear it...😂
Hey Phil, I just saw this video and I would like to know how would you go about telling the difference of a Max 59 LP from a Gibson 59 LP Real or reissued?
Could you replace your epoxy neck finish (fretless) with resonating glue??
Why aren't solid glass guitars a thing if wood and glue difference affects tone? Wouldn't glass or acrylic be the best choice since it's not porous therefere it doesn't need to "dry" out and harden like wood does?
Sounds amazing. The '59 gibson reissues sound amazing to me, too. Those start looking like a bargain compared to this.
re: the glue on the neck. It makes me wonder how a neck-thru lp style guitar like a chapman would sound with fralins.
I thoroughly enjoy your videos. They entertain and educate at once.
But my guitar efforts are best described as abuse.
I'm a bassist. One look at my paws makes that perfectly understood. So. I have to ask. What is that blue 4 stringed beat with the white pickguard an the J-P-J pickup configuration. I'd love to see it demoed of if you already have, a link to it.
Thank you & here's to a kinder 2017
This guy I used to jam with had one of these. Nicest Les Paul i've ever played.
Frankly I've had 50s and 60s Gibsons and they are fantastic. I surmise that some of the affection is psychological.
Mine were player grade, no matter. But it's nuts they're worth so much.
I'm using older 80s Tokais now, but even they are 5x the original price. They are very very good.
awesomest lesson ever!
Could you talk about Yamahas and especially the pacifica line? I got a Pacifica 821D that the internet lack infos about, and from being close to some old Yamaha guitars, those guitars were made fantastically. hope you have some more insight, and frankly, you're a rare well of infos ! God bless you.
I met this guy at Atomic Guitars in Glendale . He bought one in to have them put a finish on (Red tinted). It had Max on the head stock. After he left they told me who he was and what he built and who for. Said that guitar would go for about 30.000 . They said he don't like finishing them anymore . That was about 4 years ago.
Great sound comes from the player (especially one who knows how to tune it...)
This was quite interesting!
How about the long tenon and the abr bridge directly mounted onto the body? Gibson reserves this 2 features for the custom shop line.
at 0:17 seconds there is a picture of with a guy holding a guitar without pickups in the bottom right side. What kind of guitar is that? Or what are those pickups called that can be hidden?
Not to feed the wood argument in any way, but a thing I have noticed about vintage Les Paul's is that the wood gradually gets heavier from '54 to '59. I'm not a dealer or collector, but always make out to vintage shows and can really notice a considerable difference when playing these vintage pieces.
And as a player I would rather have a "Max" made instrument than a Gibson custom shop or vintage in most cases.
How....may I ask, did you get those two Max Guitars together at one time........?
Max is an old fiend of mine and I actually remember the day the pallet of "THAT" very wood came to
the shop on Sierra Bonita, right off of Sunset... 2 blocks west of where the Sunset Guitar Center is today!
Nice Stu Hamm Urge Fender bass back there.
How long is any guitarist on a single note or a chord to notice a difference in sustain or resonance? Even my chambered out LP's sound just like my 70's LP's
i have a question about acoustic guitars and well guitars in general, does it matter what kind wood they're made of when it comes to sound quality.
I've been searching for the sound I hear at 1:52 in this video. Could you please tell me the make and model of the neck pickup? Thanks
Just a greaat video, never knew about those les paul's before. Just wondering why Max has the Gibson shape, and logo? isn't that frowned upon
Not quite on the subject but..... I have a 1976 Kasuga Rickenbacker custom copy. Maple neck, fretboard and body with chequered edging, in top condition. Anyone any idea of value?
I am wondering now if Gibson is making their true historical with these things in mind. I heard a lot about looks as far as appearances go maybe some materials used in plastic parts. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
What about the Tokai Love Rock guitars? How do they stack up in terms of copies?
wiz pickups are great i also like nail bombs, i have a joe bonamassa epiphone goldtop a hybrid clone of of a gibson 57 /59 wirh burstbuckers 2/3 and long neck tenon mallory 150 and switchcraft toggle ernie ball 9 strings this guitar sings thick tones.... do you have any insight on this guitar? thanks for great guitar conversation happy holidays phillip
I'm surprised there is no glue tone discussions. I'd like to hear how different glues effect tone.
Where did you come across those Max? Macs? not sure how it is Spelled, are they yours? Philip..
Phillip - Would you please let me know what you think of the True Historic series? Thanks!
Many would disagree, but the closest I've played to a 59 is a Heritage H150. I got a chance to A/B a real 59 with many different Les Pauls and I really felt it had the strongest similarity with the Heritage. They weren't the SAME obviously...no new guitar is going to feel like a 60 year old guitar....but the Heritage, to me, felt like a NEW version of that 59. Just an opinion!
The bad thing is no matter what I do, change the brand of strings, change the gauge of strings or replace the pickups. All my guitars sound like me. I use the same Stratocaster for recording. Outside art festivals I was one of my Les Paul's. Bars will trouble written all over them a Strat or Les Paul Junior by Epiphone. Big hall is a good Strat and my Epiphone Casino. The main sound changes come from the amp I use. I believe all of this is true for you guy. Some distortion, reverb, delay and flanger I need to look to see what guitar I am playing. My Black Face Fender can take the stink off the hogs and the name off the guitar. I am positive wood has no factor on these situations.
If you play without effects straight through an amp it does a bit.
Completely agree. It's not wood it's mostly to do with pick-ups. And people also tend to forget this:
- Electronics have a 5% tolerance per component!
- Pickups are never the same (especially hand-wound)
- All the older models that are still being played have survived the crap ones (survivor bias)
- Musicians listen with their eyes half of the time.
I always opt for the pretty guitars because they sound better.
I thought you play keyboards...