Should I Become A CBP Officer or Border Patrol Agent? Pros and Cons
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2021
- This short video explains the important differences in the duties, training, qualifications and work for Customs and Border Protection Officers and Border Patrol Agents.
This was a very informative video so glad I sat and watched it in full. Job well done.
You can start off with CBP in any location, they have openings all over the place, lateral transfers are only filed by about 50 percent of vacances the rest are new hires. Also, CBP officers get shift differential, 20 percent for midnight, 15 percent 4-12. Also 50 percent for Sunday pay. The shift differential can be significant over the course of the year. Many BP officers transfer to CBPO because of the pay.. Pay increases come fast, you go from GS-7, to GS9 to GS 11 to GS 12 at one year increments with about a 10K increase at each level.
So if I was to become a BPA and decided to become a customs officer. Would I have to start training all over again or would my experience as BPA be good enough to get me in?
@@grant242 it’s a different academy. Your pay would not decrease, and you still get credit for your federal LEO work time for retirement and vacation purposes.
So as a CBP Officer I can start at the location of my choice? I've been trying to find a federal law enforcement agency where I could choose my duty assignment. I would like to be in the Chicago area.
@@tsarsfield12 yes
Depending on the application you apply for certain geographic locations
Then once you completed all the hiring steps you are offered a position. It’s at that time you make your selection from ports that are available. I’d imagine that Chicago International Airport would be easy to get.
Hello thanks for adding to this informative video. Are there any requirements for promoting from GS12 - GS13 and so on? Or are they annual progressions as well?
Love the videos and I’m so glad I found your Chanel! Would love a video about your experience with ATF while you were working for DEA and about about the hiring process for them.
Will do.
I just want to thank you for your insight!
Thank you so much! Im glad i found you
Thanks for the valuable information !
Thank you!
Great and insightful video sir. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this video
This video was very well done
Thanks for the information.
very helpful thank you
There are Border Patrol Agents overseas. Agents go on details to other countries and agents in the elite BORTAC or BORSTAR units get deployed overseas working with our countries military operators. Border Patrol also works with foreign law enforcement and builds up their force through training in law enforcement arrests, contraband detection.
Great video
Thank you so much
Excellent video
I applied for CBPO in January 2019, for Newark Airport NJ, I haven't heard about since late Dec 2019, I already had forgotten, however just today they called from Maryland, to set a date for the Polygraph!! I joined to the National Guard in 2020 as an MP an I have Security Clearance now, I hope they take that in consideration now.
It should help. If they are polygraphing you that is a very good sign because it means that they will finish up the process once you pass.
As an MP you only have a secret clearance. In order to be exempt from the polygraph you must have Top secret or above.
Hey did you follow through with it?
i went through for both BP and CBPO but CBPO took way longer in processing and more and i think CBPO is better since ur indoors if your at the airport if your at the border ports ur outdoor in the heat alot and long hrs but BP is all outdoors at the borders and u will be riding around in alot of rough terrain its all up to u if u wanna work outdoors ur whole career or until ur higher up GS 13 and on u pick BP in the heat or as CBPO at the airport if u applied at the airport station then u will go there after ur done with training
Yeah but CBPO seems more boring, all you do is inspect trucks and various items 24/7. Theres no thrill
I chose BP, there’s nothing like chilling in your Tahoe then cutting tracks the next minute for a group with AMO helicopter flying above you opening all the brush for you and providing air support while your homies are joining you and cutting ahead for you.
Another thing to note that I haven't seen people mention is that it is very very very difficult to change ports once you've selected one. Don't even get me started with preclearance ports. If you do choose CBPO then get ready for long hours, low morale and being stationary for 4-5 plus years before you even have a shot at moving anywhere overseas or any desirable stateside locations.
Did the CBPO thing did the rotating shifts, nights, weekends and holidays as well as graveyard, but the worst was the back to back to back 16hr mandatory shifts with little or no notice, going in at midnight and getting off at 4pm then going back in at midnight with only 2-3hrs of sleep was not fun. Much happier with my m-f 8-430 job no regrets on leaving CBP.
@@alextomtom5531 damn that’s good to know
Self motivation in law enforcement is very important. I share a home with a CBPO officer. It is a life style.
Please a video about Federal Protective Services Police ( FPS ) .
Also military experience.
I have my SI today for CBPO wish me luck.
Maintaining your physical health will make your job easier. Inspection of packages is a physical job.
customs and border protection officers, overtime is actually double, not 1.5
@@Hedgeflexlfz yep
So you get doubletime?
How much is pay in general?
For CBPo you can get that specialized experience from the military… that’s what i put on my app and resume and it qualified me for the 9
Really I am looking to apply still looking for which one. I am a food inspector for the military inspect trucks all the time do you think will make it up? I have just two years of college
Following. I have inspected personnel and equipment overseas in the Army. Just wondering if that will qualify as specialized experience.
Yeah, hell even if y’all deployed y’all will be good
What MOS where you in the military? I a 11B would that help or should I re-class to a 31B (MP)?
@@ManuelOrtiz-lc3gy Air Force security forces, nah I don’t think you should re class to MP, only because I’ve seen other people with different AFSCs/MOSs that get the job
Hey. What about agriculture specialists?
Can you do a video on the Air and Marine operations of CBP.
Edit: I had a buddy of mine get denied by Customs and border protection but Border Patrol picked him up real quick right after.
P.s. Members of T.S.A would qualify for the specialized experience in screening passengers etc.
will do.
How sure are you about TSA?
@@URSR 110% Some CBPO's are prior tsa
@@URSR many TSA officers become CBP
@@FeliceCavaliere What about border patrol?
CBP, border patrol or BOP and in this order is a great job to get after the military. Get your degree while you’re in and then apply to an 1811 agency. This is a great pathway
You’re not wrong, but military isn’t necessary. Vet preference is helpful, but the military keeps getting softer and softer. I personally couldn’t stand the Navy, but thoroughly enjoyed the BP. I recommended that my friends get a degree and then go BP. You are a very competitive 1811 candidate if you can get Vet pref, degree, and Fed LE experience.
@@chillnick1865 facts
TSA is great work experience to help qualify you for the officer position!! Once you are two years into tsa you qualify for GS 7 if combined with SOME college you might even qualify for GS-9 just depends on how good your resume is and if you were involved with leadership.
which one pays the most starting pay?
I'm in the process right now for CBP-BPA. I would like to know based on pay scale, and job duties, what do you recommend. In addition, I accepted GS-9 to start. What's y'all opinion? I have a son, and I'm 31 years old. But, obviously if i have to move to give my son better life and myself better life i would. Thank you for any information.
What you want to know? GS-9 is probably the best you’ll get. Unless, you get some permission to get into the 11.
the same thing happened in the UK , the HM immigation service and HM customs were abolished and now there is a agency called border force ! they also have general law enforcement powers in the ports, ie arrest of all offences Border patrol is also done by border force. However unlike most central government law enforcement agencies , they are not armed!
we also have ICE - immigration compliance enforcement !
I'm debating whether I should stay as a diesel technician (I don't make much, getting paid $16.50 and I'm 27) or become a CBP agent. I have my structure interview for CBP In 2 weeks and idk what to do. Oh and I was offered GS-7 by the way
What did you end up doing?
How wa your interview?
i qualified for gs9 without a college degree, with 7 years as a correctional officer
Great! Corrections is good experience. I worked as a deputy sheriff in the jail and it was great experience.
I also qualified as a GS-9 with 9 years as a correctional officer.
What would be the best counter drug operation career to get into while working on a degree to enter the DEA?
Actually to be a CBP officer all you really need is 3 years of Professional experience or a college degree.... You can even apply if you were an explorer with them (ik that because I was an Explorer) and used. That explorer experience to apply. Sure you won't get priority in application process but once you get past the panel interview.
I applied with 1.5 years of work experience and an associates degree
@@C4LIBR how did it go? I am taking Criminal Justice in my college I am class 2024
Damn 7:30 reminds me of season 2 the wire
I just submitted my e-QIP package for the hiring process I qualify as GS-7
Good news! Are they still hiring in a few border areas only?
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 I picked Detroit when I applied but once they gave me the tentative offer in the email said that they offer locations based on department needs, so even if someone choose a border location or something else by the time someone finish the hiring process is a high chance that they offer different locations other than the one an applicant originally picked at the beginning.
do you mind telling me your back ground for GS-7?
@@URSR just bachelors degree with a 3.8 gpa.
What is the difference in pay again?
If I start out as CBP, but want to switch to BP. Will I have preference to switch to an open position up north? Or would I still have to start on the southern border?
This is my question too 🤔
Im currently in Marine Corps as a Military Police Officer, applied in February for GS-9, a year out from my EAS, already schedluing to take the Polygraph Test(any tips?) I passed the Eqip, Background, Physial/Med test, Structured Interview, Pre-Security Interview in a span of 4-5months.
Congratulations on making it this far....just tell the truth and you should be fine. Dont try to research the polygraph...it only complicates things. You will pass. Some folks are allowed to waive the polygraph. Check with USBP if they may allow this in your situation.
Do have resume tips ?
waiver it u can
How did everything turn out?
What about if I work for a federal agency like usps does that help me with the hiring process
Cold and Dark or Sunny Dusty?
How much do CBP officers make starting off as like. GS7?
I qualified for gs9 without college with 2 years of TSA experience
Did you have any military experience?
@@Gabriel223m no . 3.5 years of civilian federal experience
Is tsa really good to get into federal?
@@haskha45 TSA is already Federal.
Would I qualify for CBP officer ? I have K9 experience screening cargo looking for weapons or explosives. Also have experience doing Explosive Trace Detection, X-RAY screening and physical searches on shipments entering the U.S.
I would think so. If you want to send me your resume, pls do so and I will look it over for you.
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 is it possible i can submit a resume to you for feed back and to if I qualify?
I applied last month for CBPO GS9 and just got an email about being tentatively eligible for it. Wish me luck
Good news. CBP is very difficult to get at this time. Pls keep me posted.
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 yes sir I will.
Good luck 👍
@john Lee what’s your update? I’m just waiting on polygraph test right now.
@@DVic56 E-QIP submitted and still waiting for step
What if you wanna become a cbp officer/BPA and have no law enforcement experience at all would it be worth applying?
Same question here
They’re entry level jobs. If you would have read the job posting instead of commenting on UA-cam, then you would’ve known that.
Can you make FOA work with a family? Would I be able to see them during the week or only on the weekends?
You wont be able to see your family unless they live close to you
I applied for both, finished the whole process for both and I just got the call from Border Patrol EOD. I am heavily considering turning it down and wait for a Customs offer. I'm 38, In the middle of a move back to Dallas, I have family urgencies right now and they want me to start in 3 weeks. Not just Overall bad timing, but I think I want to pick the best possible option as my next career will be my last for the next 10-15 years, and CBP does have way more ports to transfer to than Border does and they get higher pay long term plus Double time OT. Anybody think this is a good move to wait? 😕
Unless your a veteran I would say just take the job so you cant age out if they rescind the age limit waiver for BP
@@jamesissamwell I'm already completeld pre employment process with CBP and file sent to scheduling. They are only waiting on scheduling dates. I was told once you accept the tenetive offer you are locked in regardless if you hit the age cap. I also asked if turning down Border affects my selection for CBP in any way and they said no also. So I got My fingers crossed they call.
Oh you have both then disregard lolz I misread
I'm in the same boat. What did you decide out of curiosity?
@@Saikoaktive because of my age bro and current situation, I chose to turn down Border Patrol and wait for Customs. The location I was being sent to was very undesirable and I know I was going to be stuck there for at least 5-6 years at the bottom of the seniority list. Even then, transfer options are short compared to Customs who cover not only Border, but Airports and Seaports, so there's a much higher chance/options to switch stations. I don't want to be getting a desirable transfer pushing 50 with my joints and back worn out. If I was 25 with no family, I would've took Border in a heartbeat. And Don't get me wrong, I regret my decision to have turned it down and think about it a lot and how the job would have been. But you can't think for myself anymore when you have a wife and child. It sucks, but I had to make a decision based on my current situation. If you are young and you still have time in your hands. I would totally jump for Border if it's offered. You can spare time to wait and even transfer to a better agency later with BP experience (which to me is better than CBP experience). As for me, I got no time lol. Once I hit 40, the job and location I choose is who I stay with for until close to retirement.
essentially its AF vs Marines..
Does the degree need to be specific to criminal justice?
No. Really any degree will do and other fields are sought after, particularly accounting, physical sciences, engineering, etc.
Which one would be best for applying for the DEA/FBI in the future?
I think CBP is best for those agencies.
if you have a degree already just go for FBI straight out of the gate instead of trying to transition into it later. FBI actually recruits a lot right out of college especially if you're an accounting major. that's a degree they look for because they do a lot of paper work. they aren't hell bent on experience as much as they are on degrees.
@@heleng4528 that's what I'm thinking about. Especially since it seems like the FBI hires more often than the DEA
I applied for FBI right out of college they said apply later once I get at least two years of professional work experience
I have question Im US citizen. But I currently live with my family and my father is an illegal. But will that disqualify me from the process being in the border patrol field? Knowing I currently live with one.
Did u find anything out about this?
I too am in this situation, but my parent is in the process of getting legal status
I am 17 years old now with no work experience and I want to join the CBP. Do I have to go to college?
No you don’t, but it definitely helps. You would more than likely need experience though. Also, i think you have to be 21 because you must legally be able to possess a handgun.
Anyone get into CBP without a 4 year degree? Just college credits and prior military?
Or do you HAVE to have bachelor's degree to get in?
You can enter CBP with an Associates degree in criminal justice but you also need to have work experience.
yes, me. AA and military
I’m currently in college and was interested in the cbp job, but I’m also interested in bpa.. not sure what I want to do now
It’s up to you, I personally enjoyed Border Patrol, I think it’s more so of traditional law enforcement, there’s a lot of freedom in the job, you’re outdoors the majority of the shift, you normally don’t have a sup on your back, but you are also alone for the most part, back up is miles away. CBPOs are working ports of entries and that’s their jurisdiction, but they are in a controlled environment and have officers all around them and they get to take vehicles apart. I was in Border Patrol , but I also have friends in who work as CBPOs.
@@brandoncortezemmanuel357 where were you first stationed? If you don’t mind me asking. I’m in Texas and I’m just curious as to where you were first sent
@@Carlos-zy1jo Nogales, AZ. I was offered a decent amount of TX stations but I personally think the AZ stations are more desirable.
@@brandoncortezemmanuel357 Alright thanks for replying and thanks for the info. I thought they only offered you like one location, but maybe it just depends on the applicant.
@@Carlos-zy1jo It depends on a few things, I think of course it’s vacancies, the kind of announcement, etc, any other questions, let me know!
Is the same thing
Do you need a college degree to become a customs border patrol agent?
After turning down BPA, I was still in the pot for CBP and USCP. I recently got the call for USCP and accepted the offer to start their academy in November. I wanted to know if CBP were to call me during the USCP Academy, can I still switch to CBP? Or should I stick with USCP? Are the Academies any different in terms of difficulty? Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
You could technically leave USCP on day 1 if you didn't sign a service agreement.
what did you choose?
So I apply to CBPO at the end of 2019, and just a couple of days ago I got called for polygraph. I'm currently in NYPD and I'm trying to figure out if CBPO is better for me. I've been in PD for almost two years now and I want to know does the career path in CBP has more opportunities, or in the future, if I want to apply to another Federal Agency would it be beneficial?
Also like you said in the video the basics of CBPO is doing inspections, but I have seen CBPO do warrant and apprehension in NYC with PD as well.
So my second question is are there specialized units within CBPO or that might just be a localize unit within the department?
Update?
Damn it took that long???
Some CBP have black uniforms
Too much headroom.
Not to mention, who the hell would want to work in San Francisco??? Dealing with.......
Do you believe that it is possible to get into a federal agency w out any college?
Yes. Border Patrol would hire you without college provided you have some police or correctional experience. Also the Capitol Police and Secret Service uniformed division do not require college.
I would highly recommend college if you want "additional" better pay
Veteran get preference, I believe.
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 thank you very much keep up w the videos we all watching.
I suggest searching USA jobs for entry level positions (USSS is currently hiring). If you meet the basic requirements, apply. The worst they can say is no. If they accept your application, you will begin a lengthy hiring process. While you are waiting to get hired, work towards getting your degree. Chances are you will get rejected a bunch before getting picked up by an agency so just keep applying and keep working.
Why are CBP officers not agents like Border patrol agents?
They are federal LEOs. Prior to the creation of DHS, they were immigration or customs inspectors who were not law enforcement officers, but now they do have LEO status and the same authority as the USBP. The USBP has been around since the early part of the 20th century and they just moved into DHS.
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 thank you for the reply. I ment why are custom offers not federal agents.
@@jonnywilliams7846 It’s just a job title, a CBPO is still a Federal Agent in the traditional sense
CBP is a good start to your career but their polygraph knocks a bunch of people out. Good luck
I should get a date anytime now for my polygraph but I’m just nervous
Theres one guy that has D.O.D. military police experience as a security forces member with a Bachelors Degree and had a cargo inspection job for the railroad before working for the D.O.D. passed everything the poly, structured interview, step test, medical, but then O.P.R. said no, ur not worthy enough to be with CBP and that person is me. I strongly suggest enlisting and being a commissioned officer in any branch or if you can't commission be a senior n.c.o. and lead ur troops in a good leadership role as a E-7 or above!
They let VRA hires pick their ports too
What's vra?
@@robertocurry1386 veterans recruitment appointment
not anymore
Don't become BP unless you want to be a glorified babysitter!
Everyone who's watching this and thinking about becoming an agent needs to stop right now and drop the idea from their head consider literally any other form of employment do not pursue this I am telling you the truth because I wasted so much time energy effort and money trying to become a border patrol agent. Still, many other people for which the polygraph is meant to filter out those that don't have the moral character become an agent.... but the truth (and this is the TRUTH) - is it's just used as a tool to keep these polygraph examiners employed - it doesn't matter who you are what background you come from how Christian of a life you've led up to this point. You're more likely to fail just because of some bureaucrat who needs a job I've wasted so much time and effort into this clown show. The audacity of the polygraph examiners is that they will ask someone to come back a second time for a 2nd polygraph - with zero intention to pass them the second time they will fail before walking in the door the 2nd time, no different than the 1st. Why? Because they get a whopping huge percentage of the $2200 it takes for the U.S. government to pay for the test itself. YES! It is that fucked up. BTW, the process to even get as far as the polygraph is.... immense. So you will be in a position where you have spent countless hours at doctors, structured interviews, filling out probably 200 forms, tests, exams, more doctors appointments, pre-security interview, background check (federal, it is like 50 pages long and extremely detailed with 32 different sections, enjoy), AND MORE. Then finally, at the very end is the polygraph. Confident? You shouldn't be. Brilliant men and women go in there with an impeccable record. And fail. Twice. It does not matter. The polygraph examiners are doing this for the $$$$ and for job security. There is no other federal agency who fails at even half the rate as the border patrol. DEA fail rate is 36%, CIA is 35%, FBI 30%.... Border Patrol is 75%. There are polygraph examiners with 100% fail rate (Del Rio Texas, Tampa Florida, and more). Let that sink in for a moment. And these people are have been doing this for years. There is no accountability and they are making bank. Just don't do it. Read up on the bullshit. Save yourself time & money. Just don't do it, I'm telling you. Fuck border patrol
This includes CBPO?
Nah this ain’t true at all. Only folks who fail poly are dishonest unlikeable people.
@@MIKEAUSSIERULEZno, he’s just upset he didn’t get picked up for BP. The process was well worth it for me as a CBPO. $$$🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Being a CBP agent is probably harder than being a usmc or army, you have to know everything, when to shoot and when not, international law, operations, everything, driving maneuver, martial arts such as boxing and wrestling and etc.
Btw you need two years not one (of law enforcement experience)
You don’t if you have a advance degree