Just laughs when his blatant lie is revealed. Should have called him a liar and said goodbye right there. No sense in listening to anything a known liar says.
So impressed with the calm and straightforward way you demolished someone who clearly knew his bible. Which is a rarity amongst christians. Of course he will use the same argument points when he debates someone next week.
@@tomahadel What's wrong with eating tardigrades? I absolutely love them, how are you implying that eating them isn't loving them? They come out healthier than they went in, there's plenty of gut microflora for them to dine on. And they make me feel better, too. It's quite symbiotic. They can survive the vacuum of space for weeks, you really think my GI tract will hurt them over the course of a day? If you loved tardigrades, you'd eat them, too. You're missing out. Ok, joke's out of my system now. Sorry, was a random callback to a convo on Ian's DC. If you're just referring to macrofauna, I haven't actually eaten _any_ food in over 2 days. If offered meat, should I reject it...? I'm not a vegan, I'm a hypocrite. I wish there were more vegans and less factory farming of sentient animals, but I'm in no economic position to do anything about that with my $42 and bills looming. I forage for what I can get, which, being that I'm American, is very often meat. When I _buy_ food, it's coffee and ramen and flour for making bread. So, according to you, that makes me "dumb?" I openly admit that I'm a hypocrite when it comes to the juxtaposition of my omnivorous diet and my pro-sentience ethical stance. It doesn't mean I don't love animals. There are quite a few kinds of animals that I tend to love more than people on average. But I'm not going to starve to death if I can help it. I've been close to that a few times, it sucks. But _dumb?_ You're gonna have to spell that out for me. I'm not convinced the issue is black and white enough to fit into a one-line quip in a UA-cam comment. Feel free to convince me otherwise, so I'm already on board with your ethical position so the only point of contention is whether being a hypocrite makes one "dumb." I don't think that's what that word means.
More than a lie, it sounded like plain ignorance & carelessness.. Many people (non-scholars mainly) reference books & other materials that are popular, but never read by them. By referencing these works, they think they sound smart. Oh, but the host will not let them get away with it. Like a true scholar, the host tells the truth (I have not read it), then looks it up & reads out-loud, exposing the fraud. Critical thinking in action!!
Love Justin's approach. Classic atheist channels have evolved into shouting matches. Justin addresses each argument of callers and shows evidence in a calm manner. I especially appreciate Justin actually showing the bible texts.
Yes. I really appreciate the lack of shouting, cursing and name calling. I just can't imagine that's changing anyone's mind. All the callers are left with is 'atheists are A-holes.'
Agree 💯. To me using the texts mixed with logic and rationality is the best format to debate because it doesn't get to Deist debate and stay focus on Christianity and the bible...
Can’t you use that logic both ways? “Random YT atheists says god is fake, confirming my personal beliefs, so god is fake”. Kind of ironic going after religious folks, where as you Atheists follow this theory of logic and preach it like it’s a religion 😂
@ so tiring 🥱 Who said I was an atheist? Also its clear you dont even know what the word atheist means. Nor do you have an understanding of how claims and presenting evidence works. sit down child.
@@Trickabizzatch No Atheists do not say that. Christians make that up that about atheists so they can claim the higher ground. Which of course is only lying to oneself. The majority of YT atheists are ex christians who have read and studied the bible as part of their faith but found it lacking and finally realised that the majority of it was plain nonsensical. "The fastest way to become an atheist is to read the bible." -Ben Franklin Which is why it is rare to find a christian that has actually read the bible and not just the selected (filtered) texts given to them from the pulpit.
If the bible is the word of a god, then why do theists need to say, "Is it possible....?" to cover up inconsistinces, lies, contradictions and so forth?
Robin Hood was a real person (*persons) and Sherlock Holmes was real in the sense he was the literary self-insert of Doyle. So, technically it’s true while also being fiction.
@@akmi1931 Dr Watson was the literary self-insert of Doyle, being impressed by some professor he heard figuring things out. Proof: Doyle promoted the Cottingley fairies story as real, even when someone found the book that the fairies in the pictures were cut-out from by the girls who told the story. That shows no real reasoning ability.
As a Christian theist - albeit most definitely not an Evangelical, I actually really both appreciate and enjoy this podcast The opening here is utterly brilliant... literally dissecting the caller into many small rotten pieces of American evangelicalism
This word is inspired by Athena, Goddess of Wisdom, so it's is therefore wise and true. Donate to your local library. Read more than you watch TV (Which includes streaming, UA-cam, etc.). Go to your local animal shelter and pet the cats and dogs, even if you can't adopt them. They need the attention. Even if you don't honor Athena, this is still good advice, and the Goddess of Wisdom is cool with you if you don't believe in her. Have a wise day! (So much easier to write a better scripture than the Tanakh, Bible or Quran)
Yes, yes. The references to Philistines before the time of the sea peoples (bronze age collapse) has to b anachronistic, but you are the first commentator i know of who has noticed this.
Most believers don't read the bible muchless history. The tribe of Dan in Genesis 14 is another good one. Also Iron smelting in Genesis before the Iron age XD
Jeezus you can just here the simpleton in this voice. Never a critical thought in his head. Never once seriously investigated his mythology. At all. And all the conniving he does to never answer a question or challenge.
@@tomahadel But you were not were you. Because you can't help yourself can you. I think you need to look up what hypocrite means. You have used it in the wrong context.
Let's see....talking about things that never happened or couldn't have happened, humblebragging, speaking in third-person, ....is Trump the modern day Moses?
Justin please comment at some point on the Tower of Babel story. If God hadn’t mixed up everyone’s language we wouldn’t be arguing over translations today. Funny how God made it HARDER to tell he was real.
😂Also it made harder to translate His words. Some were even persecuted for it😢and this so-called Supreme Author was just watching them tortured for it😮
Next... "According to the documentary hypothesis, J was produced during the 9th century BC in the southern Kingdom of Judah and was believed to be the earliest source. E was written in the northern Kingdom of Israel during the 8th century BC. D was written in Judah in the 7th century BC and associated with the religious reforms of King Josiah c. 625 BC. The latest source was P, which was written during the 5th century in Babylon. Based on these dates, Genesis and the rest of the Pentateuch did not reach its final, present-day form until after the Babylonian Exile." Moses must have been a tin of alphabet soup if he wrote the Pentateuch.
One question Justin ask what would happen if earth stood still for a few minutes as in time. I will tell you that’s physically impossible for at the rotation of a 1000 miles an hour clock wise rotation when stopped,everything gets thrown ahead,a total world destruction and or annihilation of earth!”
Great 👌 video just out of curiosity I was wondering 🤔 if it's possible you break the fake open for us on one of the hottest teachings of the modern church the rapture and all the silly garbage that it is?
The king thing is questionable. I could write something that says... "And Donald Trump was president 2 times before any woman was elected president of the USA. " Would that be a true statement today even though we don't know for sure that the USA will ever have a woman president? Yes it would be.
Not comparing like for like. The office of US president is already in existence when you write. 'Moses' was referring to an office that would not exist for another 400 years.
@@ianchisholm5756 You don't think they didn't know what a "king" was? Or had people that thought "Oh we may one day have those like lots of places around us do?" Like if I wrote... "And Donald Trump was president 2 times before the USA has a KING." Is that true or false? It's also true, because DT was in fact elected president 2 times before the USA had a king, even if we never have a king in the future, the statement is still true.
@@technomancermagus8357 A hypothetical isn't true, and would be a very unhelpful addition to a history. A reader thousands of years in the future who only had your examples to go on would infer that the USA had a woman president or a king at some point after Trump.
@@ianchisholm5756 Was trump elected twice before the USA had a king? Yes. Was he elected twice before the heat death of the universe? Yes. We don't KNOW the universe will suffer a heat death, it's one of many possibilities, but even if it NEVER happens he was still elected BEFORE it happened. Add on: Something being not super helpful and confusingly written is not the same thing as being wrong.
Oh oh! the math calculations in this book also contradicts😅How couldn’t a so-called Supreme Author the most Wisest catch the mistake (the year) in 1 King ch. 6😂
You are watching a video that completely destroys one of your apologists and yet you think that's reason to praise your false prophet! you seriously have a problem with intellectual dishonesty.
Most people like him are Pastor taught. They're deliberately kept away from MOST of the document and taught ONLY what the pastor wants them to know.
You got that right!
Yep, sheltered
"Okay next" translates to " I'm wrong but I won't admit it!"
Like a dishonest coward.
Love the dismissive attitude.
Speaks volumes, none of what is loudly proclaimed being a positive.
“Nothing to see here. Keep moving”.
Just laughs when his blatant lie is revealed.
Should have called him a liar and said goodbye right there.
No sense in listening to anything a known liar says.
So impressed with the calm and straightforward way you demolished someone who clearly knew his bible. Which is a rarity amongst christians. Of course he will use the same argument points when he debates someone next week.
Apologists don’t even agree what the bible is, never mind what it says!
"Moses was a humble man, some might say, the most humble man in the world at that time, possibly even ever, believe me."
-Moses
But it's not hubristic to claim one is humble.
Apparently.
That sounds like a certain orange man...
"I'm not bragging no, just stating facts."
-Also Moses.
@@johns1625 He was made up character just look up where
this story came from and off
and the region that most likely
influenced it as in Messipotamia
"Nobody does humble like we do, nobody knows how to humble like Trump, I mean Moses, I mean Moses" definitely Moses
Poor guy is googling like crazy
people are so dumb. we are screwed as a species.
We're done, yes. I've lost hope a while ago.
@@pichuekaThey literal fairy tales!”
Same with those say they love animals yet eat them.
@@tomahadel What's wrong with eating tardigrades? I absolutely love them, how are you implying that eating them isn't loving them? They come out healthier than they went in, there's plenty of gut microflora for them to dine on. And they make me feel better, too. It's quite symbiotic.
They can survive the vacuum of space for weeks, you really think my GI tract will hurt them over the course of a day?
If you loved tardigrades, you'd eat them, too. You're missing out.
Ok, joke's out of my system now. Sorry, was a random callback to a convo on Ian's DC.
If you're just referring to macrofauna, I haven't actually eaten _any_ food in over 2 days. If offered meat, should I reject it...?
I'm not a vegan, I'm a hypocrite. I wish there were more vegans and less factory farming of sentient animals, but I'm in no economic position to do anything about that with my $42 and bills looming. I forage for what I can get, which, being that I'm American, is very often meat. When I _buy_ food, it's coffee and ramen and flour for making bread.
So, according to you, that makes me "dumb?" I openly admit that I'm a hypocrite when it comes to the juxtaposition of my omnivorous diet and my pro-sentience ethical stance. It doesn't mean I don't love animals. There are quite a few kinds of animals that I tend to love more than people on average. But I'm not going to starve to death if I can help it. I've been close to that a few times, it sucks.
But _dumb?_ You're gonna have to spell that out for me. I'm not convinced the issue is black and white enough to fit into a one-line quip in a UA-cam comment. Feel free to convince me otherwise, so I'm already on board with your ethical position so the only point of contention is whether being a hypocrite makes one "dumb." I don't think that's what that word means.
@@tomahadel
Animals eat animals.
Moses: "Well, I know I'm a million times as humble as thou art."
Why does it seem apologists can not stop talking over people?
He lied on Malcolm X and Frederick Douglass. Smfh. Shameless.
More than a lie, it sounded like plain ignorance & carelessness.. Many people (non-scholars mainly) reference books & other materials that are popular, but never read by them. By referencing these works, they think they sound smart. Oh, but the host will not let them get away with it. Like a true scholar, the host tells the truth (I have not read it), then looks it up & reads out-loud, exposing the fraud. Critical thinking in action!!
I was pretty shocked he confidently lied about both. Neither X’s 1 or Douglass’ 3 autobiographies are third person if I’m not mistaken.
If only David would spend more time reading the Bible rather than watching football in his couch 😅😅😅😅
I think David will be watching more football trying to forget the truth he just learned about the bible.
"I am the most humble person in this chat." -- me.
Love Justin's approach. Classic atheist channels have evolved into shouting matches. Justin addresses each argument of callers and shows evidence in a calm manner. I especially appreciate Justin actually showing the bible texts.
Cause some of those channel have emotionally unstable men who get angry like an abusive parent lol
Yes. I really appreciate the lack of shouting, cursing and name calling. I just can't imagine that's changing anyone's mind. All the callers are left with is 'atheists are A-holes.'
Yes agree and I all so like he’s pointing out about
when is referred to the
Books of Moses and
ppl literally believe
Moses to writing
them!”
Agree 💯. To me using the texts mixed with logic and rationality is the best format to debate because it doesn't get to Deist debate and stay focus on Christianity and the bible...
@@ElfofArda
You're talking about Matt Dillahunty I guess.
‘the bible says the bible is true so obviously the bible is true because the bible says the bible is true’
🙄
these people are pathetic "thinkers."
Can’t you use that logic both ways? “Random YT atheists says god is fake, confirming my personal beliefs, so god is fake”. Kind of ironic going after religious folks, where as you Atheists follow this theory of logic and preach it like it’s a religion 😂
@ so tiring 🥱
Who said I was an atheist? Also its clear you dont even know what the word atheist means. Nor do you have an understanding of how claims and presenting evidence works.
sit down child.
@@Trickabizzatch No Atheists do not say that. Christians make that up that about atheists so they can claim the higher ground. Which of course is only lying to oneself. The majority of YT atheists are ex christians who have read and studied the bible as part of their faith but found it lacking and finally realised that the majority of it was plain nonsensical.
"The fastest way to become an atheist is to read the bible." -Ben Franklin
Which is why it is rare to find a christian that has actually read the bible and not just the selected (filtered) texts given to them from the pulpit.
@@TrickabizzatchAthiests are trying to un-brainwash religious people. But in order to do that, you have to let go of both of your imaginary friends.
If the bible is the word of a god, then why do theists need to say, "Is it possible....?" to cover up inconsistinces, lies, contradictions and so forth?
With God anything is possible
Don't you know 😂
Moses reserves his place among the literary immortals like King Arthur, Robin Hood and Sherlock Holmes !
Robin Hood was a real person (*persons) and Sherlock Holmes was real in the sense he was the literary self-insert of Doyle.
So, technically it’s true while also being fiction.
@@akmi1931and Harry Potter was a real wizard.
@@akmi1931 Dr Watson was the literary self-insert of Doyle, being impressed by some professor he heard figuring things out. Proof: Doyle promoted the Cottingley fairies story as real, even when someone found the book that the fairies in the pictures were cut-out from by the girls who told the story. That shows no real reasoning ability.
I enjoy watching ceral box religo's take a nose dive 😂
As a Christian theist - albeit most definitely not an Evangelical, I actually really both appreciate and enjoy this podcast
The opening here is utterly brilliant... literally dissecting the caller into many small rotten pieces of American evangelicalism
Keep watching these videos and you'll be an Atheist by next week, I'd leave really quickly if you want to keep your faith
This word is inspired by Athena, Goddess of Wisdom, so it's is therefore wise and true.
Donate to your local library. Read more than you watch TV (Which includes streaming, UA-cam, etc.). Go to your local animal shelter and pet the cats and dogs, even if you can't adopt them. They need the attention.
Even if you don't honor Athena, this is still good advice, and the Goddess of Wisdom is cool with you if you don't believe in her.
Have a wise day!
(So much easier to write a better scripture than the Tanakh, Bible or Quran)
Every system is in decay
Realizes is a strong word.
And inaccurate here.
11:16 We actually have live audio of a theist repenting for lying and how that sounds like.
"Next..." Lol
Yes, yes. The references to Philistines before the time of the sea peoples (bronze age collapse) has to b anachronistic, but you are the first commentator i know of who has noticed this.
Most believers don't read the bible muchless history. The tribe of Dan in Genesis 14 is another good one. Also Iron smelting in Genesis before the Iron age XD
Jeezus you can just here the simpleton in this voice. Never a critical thought in his head. Never once seriously investigated his mythology. At all. And all the conniving he does to never answer a question or challenge.
Moses most likely never existed
This caller is even ignorant on football, the Lions have sustained an insane amount of injuries to their team this year!
lol right!
Julius Cesar used third-person narrative in De Bello Gallico, so there is an example on the record.
Julius didn't claim god was whispering in his ears
@@tomahadel true, he was crazy in other ways.
1:40 lol he said that it says moses wrote it but even if it does it says moses died in the end. how does that make sense??
2 and a half minutes in and already a pivot.
Same if you confronted those who say they love animals yet eat them
@@tomahadel wow a discussion about religion and yet a vegan shoves their nose in. I guess its true what they say about vegans.
@DeveloperChris yet if I was talking about saving dogs, you wouldn't have a problem hypocrite??
@DeveloperChris I'm gonna keep speaking up for the voiceless animals, got it corpse cruncher?
@@tomahadel But you were not were you. Because you can't help yourself can you. I think you need to look up what hypocrite means. You have used it in the wrong context.
What is tribal allotment, if the tribes exist before the ten commandments? It's the same 12 tribes brought out of Egypt.
Let's see....talking about things that never happened or couldn't have happened, humblebragging, speaking in third-person, ....is Trump the modern day Moses?
Justin please comment at some point on the Tower of Babel story. If God hadn’t mixed up everyone’s language we wouldn’t be arguing over translations today. Funny how God made it HARDER to tell he was real.
Good point
😂Also it made harder to translate His words. Some were even persecuted for it😢and this so-called Supreme Author was just watching them tortured for it😮
Next...
"According to the documentary hypothesis, J was produced during the 9th century BC in the southern Kingdom of Judah and was believed to be the earliest source. E was written in the northern Kingdom of Israel during the 8th century BC. D was written in Judah in the 7th century BC and associated with the religious reforms of King Josiah c. 625 BC. The latest source was P, which was written during the 5th century in Babylon. Based on these dates, Genesis and the rest of the Pentateuch did not reach its final, present-day form until after the Babylonian Exile."
Moses must have been a tin of alphabet soup if he wrote the Pentateuch.
This was bizarre to listen to.
Mainly because this guy is a darth Dawkins acolyte, couldnt get on his script fast enough.
The Hebrew for "Philistines" is plishtim, with a pe rather than a fe.
Wait until he finds out Moses never existed 🤯
That's very much a clickbait title. That caller didn't realize Jack squat
Wether he knows it or not he did realize it
He went from, “Moses wrote the first five books,” to “maybe it was Aaron or Naan?”
didnt caesar write in the third person?
Why do I keep seeing this same video reposted over and over?
Next?
Moses may not have written numbers, but must have written Gen. Ex. and Deuteronomy. He was a Levite, so might have had aid with Levit, and numbers.
What is your assessment of God speaking from the sky, at the baptism of Jesus? How many were there?
One question Justin ask what would happen if earth stood still for a
few minutes as in time.
I will tell you that’s physically impossible
for at the rotation of
a 1000 miles an hour
clock wise rotation
when stopped,everything
gets thrown ahead,a total
world destruction and or
annihilation of earth!”
Agreed. That's I know the book of Joshua is bullshit
Great 👌 video just out of curiosity I was wondering 🤔 if it's possible you break the fake open for us on one of the hottest teachings of the modern church the rapture and all the silly garbage that it is?
Yahwaaaa
The king thing is questionable. I could write something that says... "And Donald Trump was president 2 times before any woman was elected president of the USA. " Would that be a true statement today even though we don't know for sure that the USA will ever have a woman president? Yes it would be.
Not comparing like for like. The office of US president is already in existence when you write. 'Moses' was referring to an office that would not exist for another 400 years.
@@ianchisholm5756 You don't think they didn't know what a "king" was? Or had people that thought "Oh we may one day have those like lots of places around us do?"
Like if I wrote... "And Donald Trump was president 2 times before the USA has a KING." Is that true or false? It's also true, because DT was in fact elected president 2 times before the USA had a king, even if we never have a king in the future, the statement is still true.
@@technomancermagus8357 A hypothetical isn't true, and would be a very unhelpful addition to a history. A reader thousands of years in the future who only had your examples to go on would infer that the USA had a woman president or a king at some point after Trump.
@@ianchisholm5756 Was trump elected twice before the USA had a king? Yes. Was he elected twice before the heat death of the universe? Yes. We don't KNOW the universe will suffer a heat death, it's one of many possibilities, but even if it NEVER happens he was still elected BEFORE it happened.
Add on: Something being not super helpful and confusingly written is not the same thing as being wrong.
Oh oh! the math calculations in this book also contradicts😅How couldn’t a so-called Supreme Author the most Wisest catch the mistake (the year) in 1 King ch. 6😂
You can find faults and failure in all man commands
Particularly those that arise from the pulpit.
Praise The Living Jesus ‼️😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 To God be the glory forever and ever. ♥️amen.
You are watching a video that completely destroys one of your apologists and yet you think that's reason to praise your false prophet! you seriously have a problem with intellectual dishonesty.
Jesus saves. Terms and conditions apply
Genesis 2:22 you sure talk a lot for a rib
We can find good and evil truth and lies in everything
Its why we are broken
All energy is in constant distribution and transformation
Deuteronomy 31:24 exodus 24:4. Moses wrote it.