@Bob. I do t have this plants In My area I am very curious for something in my mind now - how is If you extract this honey and later on make it a syrup to feed them ....is it any good ! Maybe is a solution for you in future .....
Hahaha Bob I knew I enjoyed your Videos! I knew you are intelligent, But When you took That knowingly nasty tasting Honey Too You People and was was like Check This Out and you and mainly Seth Giggle Out Loud! I am Appallachian Hillbilly Bob! Now I know You Are Too! lol no joke! Thats why you are here in these very long mountains yet Georgia North Carolina Kentucky and West Va. and More Look The Same To Me As Looking Out My Window! God Bless You Brother and Your Bees!!!
This one caught my eye. In New Zealand we have a poisonous nectar plant called Tutu which has a boom flowering cycle every seven years and its extremely toxic. Tutin toxin can cause paralysis if eaten so beekeepers especially in the regions where it occurs have thier honey tested rigorously, fortunately it doesn't grow in central Otago so we don't see it in our honey. This stuff is so toxic that a tiny plant was once eaten by a circus Elephant in Dunedin on the east coast of the south Island and it killed the elephant 😮 the only part if the plant that isnt toxic is the petals of the flowers which are large and juicy and the pressed juice from petals was prized by Maori as a treat, but the juice must be carefully prepared, removing all of the tiny poisonous seeds from it. i often wonder who was hungry enough to figure that one out😂 great video 👍
Never knew there was "bad honey", learned something today. I'm going to go out and taste the honey in my supers to see if we have the same thing. Thanks for making another great video.
We have a problem a bit like this in New Zealand. A native NZ plant during a dearth will attract the passion vine hopper insect which will damage the plant stem and a nectar will bleed out of that. The bees will grab it and be unaffected but to humans it can be a lethal neurotoxin. As a result, all honey harvested after DEC 31 must be tested to make sure levels are low. As a hobby beekeeper I am realizing that this beekeeping gig is damn hard (and expensive). Hats off to you pros making a living from this, it is a hard and often confusing challenge!
“That’s terrible.” That’s me when I eat honey made from Avocado Tree Nectar. I’ll stick with my light and sweet honey from desert plants. Thanks for sharing this video Bob.
Ha Bob I thought I left a comment a day or 2 ago but it is not there so trying again,. I am very sorry that your bees are making bad honey and that your weather is not doing good for you. That is a big loss for u and I am sorry, I did not know there was such a thing as Toxic Honey I hope it turns around for u soon. we are having bad weather here as well we have a storm just hanging on to the coast and is just flooding and blowing a gail with rain not good for the bees at all. We have 1 flow and it is now and the weather has not been good for no more then 2-3 days at a time I have never seen a spring like this. any way I do hope it turns around for u thank you for the video they are always good u are honest about the in and outs about bee keeping. God Bless hope u have a Blessed week
@@bobbinnie9872 hi Bob, I am extracting without a workshop but doing great thanks. Looks like best ever spring harvest.around the 2000 kilos so a little bit of pay back for the very poor year last year. Hugely relieved ! Also I get to play catch up on your videos whilst extracting.. No Time otherwise. You know how it is!! Best regards. Ps would love to try some of that am awful rhododendron honey! Can you put some in a pot for me please? 🙌💪🏻🐝🐝🐝
I have been keeping bees for over 65 years and i don't eat honey unless i get a cold and that is hardly ever. The sad sad truth about honey is that all honey is toxic to the human body because it is sugar. Doctors will not talk about the toxic problems with sugar because it would hurt their bottom line. This whole country is on a ongoing Pandemic of Cancer - Obesity & Diabetes and what is the cause? SUGAR! A total Carnivore diet is what humans are design to eat. The only thing i use Sugar for is to feed the bees. Let's use all that sticky stuff to feed back to the Bees to pollinate our crops. I hope i did not pop too many bubbles in the Bee world but the truth sometimes hurts more than a bee sting! Good vid Bob i liked it!
was up this past Saturday and bought some equipment it was truly rewarding when the Newbie went and got the big man and a lot of us got to meet him ourselves I don't know about other people but I feel like I have learned a lifetime in a year by watching these videos
Bob, Thank you for the informative video. I had no idea that this was an issue. Sorry that it caused your operation to change course and have to deal with it.
Your the man Bob love how you just shake off that punch on the chin and turn it around you truly are admirable not many people just shake it off and change plans completely kudos 👏
Its crazy how adaptable one must be in beekeeping. No matter how solid your system is there are so many variables you can’t control. I was scratching my head in the apiary yesterday dealing with swarms. You’d think colonies with 3 and 4 deeps through winter would be a blessing but the reality is they are difficult to manage since we can’t raise queens here until may. I’ve been using the taranov technique quite a bit. But if i was in the honey business that might not work so well.
Thank you for sharing Bob 😊 In my area, the bees sometimes key in on the wild fennel bloom which taints the honey with a strong licorice flavor. I like it but most customers don't 😅
A great example of the need to be flexible and adaptable. This is one of the principles I learned early in beekeeping, make a plan, go to the bee yard, make a new plan. Thanks for sharing this, Bob! A very educational situation.
Great video, I'm glad I came across this because I'm still pretty new to beekeeping & this reminded me to do some research on which trees & plants to watch out for in Tx. Subscribed because you seem like a well informed, easy going guy that I can learn alot from. 💛🐝
Lots of rhododendrons up here near Seattle, but I've only seen native bumble bees on them. Never once have I seen a honey bee in one, thank goodness. I guess there are enough other options that they prefer more.
Hoping there will be some "good" honey crop coming for you in the future! P.S. I recall also the plant called Ligustrum Vulgare gives quite uneatable honey.
Super video, it was very interesting as always... I like the way your plans adapt and develop depending on the situation.. I hope you and your team have a good season..
“Shocking lack of swarm cells”…Bees gorge themselves with honey right before a swarm so maybe this year they figured out the honey tastes so bad that if the don’t make swarm cells they won’t have to gorge on that honey 😛. Just kidding of course but it makes for a good story!
thanks for sharing the flowers and what honey will be like. I beat if you put a sampler with that honey people would want to taste it. hop you share more about the flowers and trees.
I have a 27 acre forest and there is Mountain Laurel out there. This is my 11th year keeping bees but the first time I ever tasted honey so bad. It was indescribable: I wanted to say bitter but that didn't do it justice. I'm thinking Mountain Laurel. Edit: It makes you wonder, in these really honey producing operations. are they tasting every frame of every super or even tasting a sample of every super? I'd say doubtful so it must not be too bad when mixed with other sources.
Wow Bob! That’s quite a situation you have there. I can honestly say that I’ve never had bad tasting honey and I think I will keep it that way. I think your decision to stall on the honey supers was wise. Hope the good stuff starts coming in soon for you!
wow, thanks. I have noticed some honey does have a slight off taste. I believe you have explained the taste test. As hot peppers really come from low moisture soils. HOT HOT HOT. Thanks
I just wanted to say tell the ladies that you coaxed to taste that nasty $hit that this northern lady beekeeper wishes them a Happy Mother's Day and sweeter honey in the future.
If you just move them the field force will go back to the original location. For that distance it would be best to move them somewhere else that's at least two miles away for a few days and then move the to your new spot.
The one very intense medical honey , Hale Koa was Very high in Peroxide. Useful as skin treatment honey and even as GI tract treatment. Fine for cooking but our market was not for cheap cooking tasteless honey.
There is a sweet taste initially and within one to two seconds a very bad taste takes over that lingers a long time. It doesn't taste like anything else that I know of so it's hard to describe.
Thanks for sharing Bob! Up in Waynesville for awhile selling some of my honey from my beeyard in Lawndale. People in Waynesville love my honey I bring up. What kind of taste was that bad honey? What did it taste like? Glad to see Seth helping ya. Where is Molly? Hope she ain't give it up. Lol.
Bob, is there a way that you can salvage the honey made from Mountain Laurel or any other plant not good for human consumption? Can it be cooked off and the sugar be extracted or saved somehow, or is it just a total loss? The wax the bees make from these plants, is it usable? Wouldn't it affect future honey safety? New into bee keeping in the southwest and last thing I want to do is harvest honey that can make people sick or kill them.
I'm going to leave all of this for the bees so there will be no problems with consumers. The bees are definitely benefitting from all this so I feel it's not much of a loss. I just had to change my direction.
Do you leave the toxic honey for the bees since they don't mind, or do you collect it for other uses, since honey can be used in other stuff besides food, like in cosmetics, champoo, etc...
Hi Dennis. Paint won't stick to the paraffin. We don't worry about the dark color but then we don't live in a place where temperatures get above the mid 90s very often. We do crack our lids a little on large colonies in warm weather wether the lid is dark or not.
Thank you for all the content you put out there! I am learning a ton! Since you are using double deeps, I was wondering if I could do the same. Just not sure if thats ok with Dandant US system, since it is supposed to be single deep as far as I know?!
Many in the US prefer double deeps for a number of reasons. Although single story with supers over a queen excluder is easier and more efficient in many ways, double deeps are more stable in many ways.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you for your response! When would be a good time to put the second deep on? I would guess after the honey flow? Because my colononies all have honey supers on right now.
I found one of my hives with that garbage about threw up it was terrible instantly pulled them and gave em fresh frames stripped the foundation vacuum sealed the wax into the freezer it went for my nucs funny thing is my sister Thought it was fresh harvest as I thawed it took a finger full and heard her gaggin then the garbage disposal kick on rofl
Hello Bob. Local people around here,( Amherst Virginia ). Call Mountain Laurel, Ivy bushes. I haven't tried my honey yet. I'm going to put on honey supers today. The bees aren't going to be happy about it, but I have to. Due to my full time job. Good luck with your honey crop.
---Draw, draw,draw comb but I have no drawn comb, but those serenely are bee machines right there. I'd be cutting those out of my property, will elderberry grow down there, might be a good replacement bush? :) I like that "I though we were friends Bob" :) "Real beekeepers do it in the Rain" I'm going to have a pack made, NW after all. ---Bob I know you are from up this direction WA, OR do we have much of that Mt. Laurel up here? Not sure in my travels around SW WA if I have seen them. I know ppl like the rhododendron in their subdivision flower beds, it's become less popular but was real big in development in 80s through early 2000s they do well in our well climate here. How inclined are the bees to go for rhododendron if there is ample food sources closer? ---My blackberries here in SW WA try to take over more of my property and they are kinda good at it lol. Though they to get a little of a reprieve kuz of the bees, freezer jam and fresh berry pies. I have kind of formed kind of a love to hate relationship with blackberries. :) Being flexible in when faced of natures challenges called that farming, might look a little different but all the same rules. :) ---Ty for sharing your time Bob, Blessed Days...
I don't believe there was any mountain laurel where I lived in Oregon. Our experience here is that the bees will collect nectar from rhododendron only when there isn't other good sources of nectar available.
Thanks Bob im in NC and never knew about the bad honey from those. Im learning beekeeping with my first hive now, this was very helpful. I hope maybe meet you here in NC one day.
I don't know where you are in North Carolina but I'll be speaking at the bee club in Hendersonville on May 16 and at the state meeting in Hickory in July. Good luck with your new venture.
Great video Bob. I didn't know that bees make honey that doesn't taste good. I wonder if you can use that honey for winter feed instead of sugar syrup ?
All jokes aside, do you think anyone would buy it? Does it have any marketable worth like bbq sauce or something like that?? Or just plan to make bees and comb off that particular flow?
If you are dealt lemons - make lemonade. LOL It looked like you need to super soon, so you must have waited a bit to avoid getting more nasty honey. Here in MN last year, the early honey had an off taste (dandelions?) and I extracted it and fed it back to the bees in the fall blended 1/2 and 1/2 with with sugar water to make a 1.5 to mix. The bees loved it, but I wouldn't sell it. Have you ever fed back honey to your bees?
We leave all of it on the bees. There are so many plants in the woods in our area that it is impossible to get rid of it. Plus, everyone except the beekeepers love it having it around because it's so attractive.
Hello Bob, I just extracted 4 frames the honey is lighter than corn syrup it was collected during late April thru early May not all of it was capped the taste is not that good somewhat sour, If I am not wrong mountain laurel and their cousins were not blooming yet any ideas of what could it be? I also removed one super of uncapped honey and stored it in a refrigerator I did this because of the locust bloom and the idea is not to mix the new incoming nectar with the old one, whenever this flow is gone and i take the good honey away can I return the old bad tasting honey to the hive? Will they finish working on it? Thanks
In our area there nothing that light that comes earlier than mountain laurel that tastes bad so I don't know. Yes, they'll continue on that super as long as there is a flow.
@@bobbinnie9872 Hi Bob, this year I was able to figure out where that nasty honey was coming from. A grass or weed called purple deadnettle. Horrible smell and taste, the honey smells just like the grass when you hand weed it from your garden, but the bees are loving it and they fill the frames quickly. Mystery solved maybe 😂 I think.
Well since I'm "comment 101" lol I don't want nasty honey. 2nd Double Deeps Carry More Varroa Though Winter. That's a Fact. lol Double are great. I love them. My boss love making Stack of deeps, mediums and shallows for early splits. what he don't understand is that it does work but you are just rolling the dice instead of laying out a plan and following through. I treated his hives last year for the first time with OAV and it made a big difference in the amount of Nucs he had to buy, but it could have been better if the amount of brood in these bigger hives where under more control. Good luck "Edit" It's better to make up Nucs in the summer and fall for spring than to take larger colonies through winter that still maintain brood with a Varroa infestation than to Maintain the single with little to no Brood that has almost no Varroa. Some colonies can live with this mite and prosper but most can't, Yet. Just wanted to clarify my statement. Just my opinion.
@@bobbinnie9872 have you ever poked the stamens? It's an interesting flower where the stamens are glued to the petals but when the bees land on the flower, the stamens detach and "whack" the bee. Does the Nectar boost wax production? You are getting great wax production.
Hi Bob My name is Jeremy and I'm getting back in to beekeeping after being out for about 6 years. I purchased 2 nucs this year and they're doing fantastic. My question is I have a box of foundations from about 6 years ago still new in box do I need to do anything to it before I use it or should it be good?
A fast pass over them with a hair drier is what works for me. Just to make the wax smell like new again. And a little sugar water spraying before putting them in isn't bad
Danny c's tip is good. If you have the time it can be helpful to apply fresh wax. See our video "How to Apply Beeswax to Plastic Foundation". ua-cam.com/video/tfMISC9zIaM/v-deo.html
Maybe bees move honey within the hive? How can we be sure that the bees won't move this awful honey up to your extracting supers? There is probably at least a danger of tainting the good honey. It's probably a bigger problem for single brood box management than double deep. But bees moving honey is always something I worry about when feeding bees with sugar. Thanks for the super informative and interesting videos as always.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thanks for your reply, Bob. I totally trust your years of experience. I learned a lot from your videos. I love bees so much that perhaps someday I will trade my current engineering job for a beekeer job. Lol.
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Great video, i noticed the lids appear to be propped up a little. Is this to help bees dry honey? Thanks for sharing.
Hi Randell. We often prop up the lid on robust colonies going into the warm season for extra ventilation. Oddly enough, it also helps with swarming.
Good looking frame are drawn ...
Bob, I think more rainy and humid years leas to more swarming..
@Bob. I do t have this plants In My area I am very curious for something in my mind now - how is If you extract this honey and later on make it a syrup to feed them ....is it any good ! Maybe is a solution for you in future .....
@@luci75d76 You could do that. We just leave it on the bees or give frames of it out to growing colonies. They do fine with it.
@Bob Binnie thank you !
These day-to-day in-situ decision-making moments are awesome. They’re a big learning moment without a lecture. I appreciate it.
Loved that taste test.....so excited until it hit the back of their mouth and Bob with just a little smirk on his face.Thanks for sharing Bob.
Hahaha Bob I knew I enjoyed your Videos! I knew you are intelligent, But When you took That knowingly nasty tasting Honey Too You People and was was like Check This Out and you and mainly Seth Giggle Out Loud! I am Appallachian Hillbilly Bob! Now I know You Are Too! lol no joke! Thats why you are here in these very long mountains yet Georgia North Carolina Kentucky and West Va. and More Look The Same To Me As Looking Out My Window! God Bless You Brother and Your Bees!!!
"yea ur getting the good stuff" lol
Great video. My favorite part was when you asked your crew what they thought to do, and you listened to their ideas. That's leadership!
This one caught my eye. In New Zealand we have a poisonous nectar plant called Tutu which has a boom flowering cycle every seven years and its extremely toxic. Tutin toxin can cause paralysis if eaten so beekeepers especially in the regions where it occurs have thier honey tested rigorously, fortunately it doesn't grow in central Otago so we don't see it in our honey. This stuff is so toxic that a tiny plant was once eaten by a circus Elephant in Dunedin on the east coast of the south Island and it killed the elephant 😮 the only part if the plant that isnt toxic is the petals of the flowers which are large and juicy and the pressed juice from petals was prized by Maori as a treat, but the juice must be carefully prepared, removing all of the tiny poisonous seeds from it. i often wonder who was hungry enough to figure that one out😂 great video 👍
Bees making cough syrup out of wild cherry! Funny what being distracted just for a second will do to your perception lol.
Never knew there was "bad honey", learned something today. I'm going to go out and taste the honey in my supers to see if we have the same thing. Thanks for making another great video.
Bob, your good videos are getting even better. This one is entertaining and I learn a lot. Thank you very much.
We have a problem a bit like this in New Zealand. A native NZ plant during a dearth will attract the passion vine hopper insect which will damage the plant stem and a nectar will bleed out of that. The bees will grab it and be unaffected but to humans it can be a lethal neurotoxin. As a result, all honey harvested after DEC 31 must be tested to make sure levels are low. As a hobby beekeeper I am realizing that this beekeeping gig is damn hard (and expensive). Hats off to you pros making a living from this, it is a hard and often confusing challenge!
You boys keep eatin that laurel Honey and you will be taking back things you didnt even steal! lol! God Bless!!!
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I love how you have a team that you can say what is the solution to this issue and they instantly have an answer.
I try to listen to the ideas of others, even if I don't agree.
That's awful, glad that doesn't grow where I live.
Thanks for posting this video. Both for the info on the mountain laurel and the view of lack of swarm cells. Learned quite a bit today.
Thanks for sharing!
Keep the videos coming Bob. Your videos never disappoint. Much appreciated from Manitoba Canada.
Thanks 👍
“That’s terrible.” That’s me when I eat honey made from Avocado Tree Nectar. I’ll stick with my light and sweet honey from desert plants. Thanks for sharing this video Bob.
Here, in Hawaii Avocado honey is a tasty treat and has a wonderful taste of nutty fruit and scent.
Ha Bob I thought I left a comment a day or 2 ago but it is not there so trying again,. I am very sorry that your bees are making bad honey and that your weather is not doing good for you. That is a big loss for u and I am sorry, I did not know there was such a thing as Toxic Honey I hope it turns around for u soon. we are having bad weather here as well we have a storm just hanging on to the coast and is just flooding and blowing a gail with rain not good for the bees at all. We have 1 flow and it is now and the weather has not been good for no more then 2-3 days at a time I have never seen a spring like this. any way I do hope it turns around for u thank you for the video they are always good u are honest about the in and outs about bee keeping. God Bless hope u have a Blessed week
Those mountain Laurel frames could be stored and used later for winter food for the hives.
Really interesting topic. Thank you for the education, as I am a beekeeper in Western North Carolina.
I learned something new. I'm in my fourth year and now I need to focus on my local plants.
Ha loved this” the present that just keeps on giving “ great video.. 💯👍🐝
Hi Richard. I hope all is going well over there. 👍
@@bobbinnie9872 hi Bob, I am extracting without a workshop but doing great thanks. Looks like best ever spring harvest.around the 2000 kilos so a little bit of pay back for the very poor year last year. Hugely relieved ! Also I get to play catch up on your videos whilst extracting.. No Time otherwise. You know how it is!!
Best regards.
Ps would love to try some of that am awful rhododendron honey! Can you put some in a pot for me please?
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I have been keeping bees for over 65 years and i don't eat honey unless i get a cold and that is hardly ever. The sad sad truth about honey is that all honey is toxic to the human body because it is sugar. Doctors will not talk about the toxic problems with sugar because it would hurt their bottom line. This whole country is on a ongoing Pandemic of Cancer - Obesity & Diabetes and what is the cause? SUGAR! A total Carnivore diet is what humans are design to eat. The only thing i use Sugar for is to feed the bees. Let's use all that sticky stuff to feed back to the Bees to pollinate our crops. I hope i did not pop too many bubbles in the Bee world but the truth sometimes hurts more than a bee sting! Good vid Bob i liked it!
I seldom eat honey. And the honey from my bees is very good quality.
@Sam Kabamm 😀
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was up this past Saturday and bought some equipment it was truly rewarding when the Newbie went and got the big man and a lot of us got to meet him ourselves I don't know about other people but I feel like I have learned a lifetime in a year by watching these videos
Thanks. 😀
Just going with the flow, I always wanted to know how different flavors were harvested.
Bob, Thank you for the informative video. I had no idea that this was an issue. Sorry that it caused your operation to change course and have to deal with it.
Your the man Bob love how you just shake off that punch on the chin and turn it around you truly are admirable not many people just shake it off and change plans completely kudos 👏
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Its crazy how adaptable one must be in beekeeping. No matter how solid your system is there are so many variables you can’t control. I was scratching my head in the apiary yesterday dealing with swarms. You’d think colonies with 3 and 4 deeps through winter would be a blessing but the reality is they are difficult to manage since we can’t raise queens here until may. I’ve been using the taranov technique quite a bit. But if i was in the honey business that might not work so well.
Thank you for sharing Bob 😊 In my area, the bees sometimes key in on the wild fennel bloom which taints the honey with a strong licorice flavor. I like it but most customers don't 😅
A great example of the need to be flexible and adaptable. This is one of the principles I learned early in beekeeping, make a plan, go to the bee yard, make a new plan. Thanks for sharing this, Bob! A very educational situation.
Thanks Brad.
Really interesting seeing how you manage this issue.
Great video, I'm glad I came across this because I'm still pretty new to beekeeping & this reminded me to do some research on which trees & plants to watch out for in Tx. Subscribed because you seem like a well informed, easy going guy that I can learn alot from. 💛🐝
Lots of rhododendrons up here near Seattle, but I've only seen native bumble bees on them. Never once have I seen a honey bee in one, thank goodness. I guess there are enough other options that they prefer more.
Hoping there will be some "good" honey crop coming for you in the future!
P.S. I recall also the plant called Ligustrum Vulgare gives quite uneatable honey.
I have some houses that have rhododendron bushes. I'm hoping they go toward some of the other stuff and leave them alone.
We made some black cherry syrup once. Stout stuff. Was good as a mixer.
Super video, it was very interesting as always... I like the way your plans adapt and develop depending on the situation.. I hope you and your team have a good season..
“Shocking lack of swarm cells”…Bees gorge themselves with honey right before a swarm so maybe this year they figured out the honey tastes so bad that if the don’t make swarm cells they won’t have to gorge on that honey 😛. Just kidding of course but it makes for a good story!
Well thanks for that information. Definitely not an adding any of those by my house
Bob, these last couple videos where it's you doing beekeeping are really great and as an experienced beekeeper, the ones where I learn from you.
Thanks. It can be a challenge figuring out what to put post each week.
thanks for sharing the flowers and what honey will be like. I beat if you put a sampler with that honey people would want to taste it. hop you share more about the flowers and trees.
I have a 27 acre forest and there is Mountain Laurel out there. This is my 11th year keeping bees but the first time I ever tasted honey so bad. It was indescribable: I wanted to say bitter but that didn't do it justice. I'm thinking Mountain Laurel.
Edit: It makes you wonder, in these really honey producing operations. are they tasting every frame of every super or even tasting a sample of every super? I'd say doubtful so it must not be too bad when mixed with other sources.
It is impossible to describe. I'm sure not everyone is tasting every frame. If there's much at all we leave it for the bees.
Wow Bob! That’s quite a situation you have there. I can honestly say that I’ve never had bad tasting honey and I think I will keep it that way. I think your decision to stall on the honey supers was wise. Hope the good stuff starts coming in soon for you!
Hi Dawn. Thankfully, the bees seem to be shifting today. We put some extracting supers on today and will put many more on tomorrow.
wow, thanks. I have noticed some honey does have a slight off taste. I believe you have explained the taste test. As hot peppers really come from low moisture soils. HOT HOT HOT. Thanks
Sell it as gag honey for people to play tricks on people if it’s that bad
I just wanted to say tell the ladies that you coaxed to taste that nasty $hit that this northern lady beekeeper wishes them a Happy Mother's Day and sweeter honey in the future.
Privet bloom going in MS. I’m worried lack of rain isn’t going to allow a good flow.
Hi Bob! I need to move six colonies in a bee yard about 60 yards… can I just move them or how would you accomplish this?
If you just move them the field force will go back to the original location. For that distance it would be best to move them somewhere else that's at least two miles away for a few days and then move the to your new spot.
@@bobbinnie9872 thanks!
Once in Turkey’s I hade a very strong smelling mountain honey, they said it had medical properties
I wonder if it causes hallucinations like some of the honey from Nepal?
I've heard that it can.
Hi Bob, I was wondering, if Mountain Laurel is such a problem, then why don't you cut it all down?
That would be impossible because there's so much of it and it's everywhere. Only beekeepers don't like it.
Mi amigo was the honest one! He was the first to call it! LOL
Yes, No Bueno!!
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Bob, with all the crap happening in the world you don't need more
Almost looks like you could split down to singles drop cells in and put undrawn deeps on top to draw out. Interesting video thank you
The 2nd last yard , near the highway didn't have wire around it for bears , how come ???? Peter Australia 🇦🇺
The noise and the traffic seems to keep the bears away.
Very interesting.
You'll just have to eat around that part. =D
The one very intense medical honey , Hale Koa was Very high in Peroxide. Useful as skin treatment honey and even as GI tract treatment. Fine for cooking but our market was not for cheap cooking tasteless honey.
What exactly does this bad honey taste like? Is it sweet? Bitter? Sooooo curious now!!
There is a sweet taste initially and within one to two seconds a very bad taste takes over that lingers a long time. It doesn't taste like anything else that I know of so it's hard to describe.
Bob during a dry spell there are the bees bringing in less pollen? Wondering if a lower incoming protein would reduce the swarm drive.
That would definitely true. In this case a lot of pollen is still coming in.
Thank you for all you do bob. Did you delete some of your videos you tube only goes back 3 years thanks again.
All my videos are still up.
@@bobbinnie9872 ok thank you again for all the great information!
Mr Bob, you should taste jamun honey. We blend it with lighter honey else customers say it's poison.
Thanks for sharing Bob! Up in Waynesville for awhile selling some of my honey from my beeyard in Lawndale. People in Waynesville love my honey I bring up. What kind of taste was that bad honey? What did it taste like? Glad to see Seth helping ya. Where is Molly? Hope she ain't give it up. Lol.
A lot of Mt. Laurel around makes me feel sick
I grew up in Haywood County, NC and never heard of honey from Rhododendron or Calmia...
Bob, is there a way that you can salvage the honey made from Mountain Laurel or any other plant not good for human consumption? Can it be cooked off and the sugar be extracted or saved somehow, or is it just a total loss? The wax the bees make from these plants, is it usable? Wouldn't it affect future honey safety? New into bee keeping in the southwest and last thing I want to do is harvest honey that can make people sick or kill them.
I'm going to leave all of this for the bees so there will be no problems with consumers. The bees are definitely benefitting from all this so I feel it's not much of a loss. I just had to change my direction.
Do you leave the toxic honey for the bees since they don't mind, or do you collect it for other uses, since honey can be used in other stuff besides food, like in cosmetics, champoo, etc...
We just leave it on the colonies. If they have too much we will spread it around to smaller, growing colonies.
Will one Rhododendron be enough to mess up your honey?
That was just wrong to do your crew that way. Thanks I didn’t know they made honey from that, it now worries me about mine.
The crew was fine with it. They have always wanted to be apart of everything. Tasting included.👍
I bought the equipment Saturday and I bought migratory covers lids should I paint those white they are dipped in the paraffin and again thank you
Hi Dennis. Paint won't stick to the paraffin. We don't worry about the dark color but then we don't live in a place where temperatures get above the mid 90s very often. We do crack our lids a little on large colonies in warm weather wether the lid is dark or not.
I would give anything to taste that honey, the reaction has my interest peaked!
Sorry, we won't have any in jars. You'll have to come here and taste it in the colony.
Thank you for all the content you put out there! I am learning a ton! Since you are using double deeps, I was wondering if I could do the same. Just not sure if thats ok with Dandant US system, since it is supposed to be single deep as far as I know?!
Many in the US prefer double deeps for a number of reasons. Although single story with supers over a queen excluder is easier and more efficient in many ways, double deeps are more stable in many ways.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you for your response! When would be a good time to put the second deep on? I would guess after the honey flow? Because my colononies all have honey supers on right now.
@@hanshasselberg7261 You could put on another deep box and draw it out with sugar syrup after the honey flow. We do a little of that each year.
I found one of my hives with that garbage about threw up it was terrible instantly pulled them and gave em fresh frames stripped the foundation vacuum sealed the wax into the freezer it went for my nucs funny thing is my sister
Thought it was fresh harvest as I thawed it took a finger full and heard her gaggin then the garbage disposal kick on rofl
Does Mountain Laurel produce pollen as well?
I have not noticed any.
So, what do you do with that toxic honey? Do you throw It out or someone still can use It?
We leave it on the bees. They do fine with it.
Hello Bob. Local people around here,( Amherst Virginia ). Call Mountain Laurel, Ivy bushes.
I haven't tried my honey yet. I'm going to put on honey supers today. The bees aren't going to be happy about it, but I have to. Due to my full time job.
Good luck with your honey crop.
Thanks. It's also called mountain ivy here.
---Draw, draw,draw comb but I have no drawn comb, but those serenely are bee machines right there. I'd be cutting those out of my property, will elderberry grow down there, might be a good replacement bush? :) I like that "I though we were friends Bob" :) "Real beekeepers do it in the Rain" I'm going to have a pack made, NW after all.
---Bob I know you are from up this direction WA, OR do we have much of that Mt. Laurel up here? Not sure in my travels around SW WA if I have seen them. I know ppl like the rhododendron in their subdivision flower beds, it's become less popular but was real big in development in 80s through early 2000s they do well in our well climate here. How inclined are the bees to go for rhododendron if there is ample food sources closer?
---My blackberries here in SW WA try to take over more of my property and they are kinda good at it lol. Though they to get a little of a reprieve kuz of the bees, freezer jam and fresh berry pies. I have kind of formed kind of a love to hate relationship with blackberries. :)
Being flexible in when faced of natures challenges called that farming, might look a little different but all the same rules. :)
---Ty for sharing your time Bob, Blessed Days...
I don't believe there was any mountain laurel where I lived in Oregon. Our experience here is that the bees will collect nectar from rhododendron only when there isn't other good sources of nectar available.
Is the taste related to the amount of grayanotoxins?
I'm not sure but it seems likely.
Thanks Bob im in NC and never knew about the bad honey from those. Im learning beekeeping with my first hive now, this was very helpful. I hope maybe meet you here in NC one day.
I don't know where you are in North Carolina but I'll be speaking at the bee club in Hendersonville on May 16 and at the state meeting in Hickory in July. Good luck with your new venture.
@Bob Binnie Im near Greensboro NC I assume you live in the mountains. I hope I can get out to your appearance’s. Thanks.
Great video Bob. I didn't know that bees make honey that doesn't taste good.
I wonder if you can use that honey for winter feed instead of sugar syrup ?
I believe it would be fine.
Really enjoyed this one Bob!
Thanks.
All jokes aside, do you think anyone would buy it? Does it have any marketable worth like bbq sauce or something like that?? Or just plan to make bees and comb off that particular flow?
There's probably someone that would buy it but I wouldn't feel good selling it so we'll just make bees and comb until the nectar flow changes.
If you are dealt lemons - make lemonade. LOL It looked like you need to super soon, so you must have waited a bit to avoid getting more nasty honey.
Here in MN last year, the early honey had an off taste (dandelions?) and I extracted it and fed it back to the bees in the fall blended 1/2 and 1/2 with with sugar water to make a 1.5 to mix. The bees loved it, but I wouldn't sell it.
Have you ever fed back honey to your bees?
Yes, but only once.
great video Mr. Bob
Thanks.
So what do you do with the bad honey? Do you deal with the bad plants at all?
We leave all of it on the bees. There are so many plants in the woods in our area that it is impossible to get rid of it. Plus, everyone except the beekeepers love it having it around because it's so attractive.
Mountain laurel isn't even blooming yet in dawsonville. So weird!
That is odd because that is a lower elevation than us.
They're just starting to bloom in my driveway. I was in dawson forest all day yesterday and didn't see any blooming. It is very strange.
Hello Bob, I just extracted 4 frames the honey is lighter than corn syrup it was collected during late April thru early May not all of it was capped the taste is not that good somewhat sour, If I am not wrong mountain laurel and their cousins were not blooming yet any ideas of what could it be?
I also removed one super of uncapped honey and stored it in a refrigerator I did this because of the locust bloom and the idea is not to mix the new incoming nectar with the old one, whenever this flow is gone and i take the good honey away can I return the old bad tasting honey to the hive? Will they finish working on it?
Thanks
In our area there nothing that light that comes earlier than mountain laurel that tastes bad so I don't know. Yes, they'll continue on that super as long as there is a flow.
@@bobbinnie9872 Hi Bob, this year I was able to figure out where that nasty honey was coming from. A grass or weed called purple deadnettle. Horrible smell and taste, the honey smells just like the grass when you hand weed it from your garden, but the bees are loving it and they fill the frames quickly. Mystery solved maybe 😂 I think.
Well since I'm "comment 101" lol I don't want nasty honey. 2nd Double Deeps Carry More Varroa Though Winter. That's a Fact. lol Double are great. I love them. My boss love making Stack of deeps, mediums and shallows for early splits. what he don't understand is that it does work but you are just rolling the dice instead of laying out a plan and following through. I treated his hives last year for the first time with OAV and it made a big difference in the amount of Nucs he had to buy, but it could have been better if the amount of brood in these bigger hives where under more control. Good luck "Edit" It's better to make up Nucs in the summer and fall for spring than to take larger colonies through winter that still maintain brood with a Varroa infestation than to Maintain the single with little to no Brood that has almost no Varroa. Some colonies can live with this mite and prosper but most can't, Yet. Just wanted to clarify my statement. Just my opinion.
State flower of Pennsylvania! That's a bummer about the honey.
I can see why it's the state flower. It's beautiful in full bloom.
@@bobbinnie9872 have you ever poked the stamens? It's an interesting flower where the stamens are glued to the petals but when the bees land on the flower, the stamens detach and "whack" the bee.
Does the Nectar boost wax production? You are getting great wax production.
@@Peekul1 I'll have to play with the flowers next year. The bees bees do draw out comb very well on it. Thanks.
You can sell it as Madd Honey! Worth $75. a pint! Because the grayanotoxin is a hallucinogenic!!!.......
I'm sure there could be a market for it if I looked in the right places.
@@bobbinnie9872 Yes Sir! Im not sure of the legalities but There is a Big Market for Madd Honey!! God Bless!!!
When life gives you lemons, let the bees turn em into comb!
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Tip: know what’s blooming in your area. I personally hate Tupelo honey….too strong
Hi Bob My name is Jeremy and I'm getting back in to beekeeping after being out for about 6 years. I purchased 2 nucs this year and they're doing fantastic. My question is I have a box of foundations from about 6 years ago still new in box do I need to do anything to it before I use it or should it be good?
A fast pass over them with a hair drier is what works for me. Just to make the wax smell like new again. And a little sugar water spraying before putting them in isn't bad
@@researcherAmateur thank you. I'll give it a shot
Danny c's tip is good. If you have the time it can be helpful to apply fresh wax. See our video "How to Apply Beeswax to Plastic Foundation". ua-cam.com/video/tfMISC9zIaM/v-deo.html
@@bobbinnie9872 that's what I had planned on but I don't know if I have enough excess wax to cover them
There may be a market for it. Harvest it and I’m willing to bet dollars to doughnuts it will sell. I would buy a bottle
Make bees or make honey. Looks like your making bees. ;
Already starting. 👍
Round up the stuff down !
Mountain laurel honey made me puke.
Maybe bees move honey within the hive? How can we be sure that the bees won't move this awful honey up to your extracting supers? There is probably at least a danger of tainting the good honey.
It's probably a bigger problem for single brood box management than double deep. But bees moving honey is always something I worry about when feeding bees with sugar.
Thanks for the super informative and interesting videos as always.
In the past I have never noticed it in supers that were put on after it stopped coming in.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thanks for your reply, Bob. I totally trust your years of experience. I learned a lot from your videos. I love bees so much that perhaps someday I will trade my current engineering job for a beekeer job. Lol.