Countdown, Part 1 - Atop the Fourth Wall

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  • Опубліковано 12 січ 2014
  • Countdown is akin to the words of Shakespeare... specifically, this line:
    "Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." ‎
    Originally uploaded July 6th, 2009.
    RUMINATIONS: Not much to add on top of what I originally said for the prologue. There is continuation of the Mechakara stuff, but only in that something is happening - Mechakara is attempting to disrupt the show. WHY is Mechakara attempting to disrupt the show? No reason as of yet in my head, just that he hates Linkara and wants to ruin his life.
    I will add that it was around this episode that I was no longer using Microsoft Photo Story for scrolling across panels in what my family referred to as "The Ken Burns effect." As I recall, the program simply stopped working one day, most likely a result of a Windows Update that had made it obsolete. As a result, I had to actually figure out how to make the images move inside of Adobe Premiere. What you'll notice about the image quality, though, is that it seemed to pixelate very easily when it rendered. That was because I was using "scale to frame size" on the image, which one should not be doing when the image is supposed to be moving around. It just doesn't let zooming and moving work the same way. As such, there are a few episodes where the image quality looks very off until someone in an Adobe forum told me how to fix this.
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  • @Webshooters1
    @Webshooters1 9 років тому +88

    You know what's funny about "Running Around Looking For Crap"? It's that the series was SO hated that in a following issue of Booster Gold on the chalkboard it says "Ignore Countdown" which is DC saying "Yeah this series is entirely non-canon."

    • @sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595
      @sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595 4 роки тому +2

      "Ignore Countdown. Focus elsewhere." And we ALL knew the Elsewhere we all were really focused on at the time... The Sinestro Corps War, hell yeah!

  • @johnalogue9832
    @johnalogue9832 7 років тому +242

    DLC: The Comic Book.

    • @alextelson4416
      @alextelson4416 3 роки тому +7

      EA the comic book : must pay $45 per page

  • @RedTailedSmeargle
    @RedTailedSmeargle 7 років тому +224

    I thought his name being Bob was a joke. That is his actual name.
    All of my what

    • @Groundlord
      @Groundlord 4 роки тому +24

      From what I found on the DC wiki, he's never called himself by a different name.
      Honestly, they should've just started with him introducing himself with some overly complex name, like... Bhobservhak, and someone asks if they can just call him Bob to keep things simple.

    • @davidspring4003
      @davidspring4003 3 роки тому +5

      @@Groundlord "some call me...Tim?"

  • @TheBronzeDog
    @TheBronzeDog 4 роки тому +29

    "You know after he's done tending the slave pits on Apokalips, he just plays with them."
    Now just imagining the doll scene from Space Balls with some character substitutions.

  • @Viccatrix
    @Viccatrix 7 років тому +149

    My towns library, only has Countdown to Crisis in its comic book section, no joke. Really sums the town up..

    • @jakearmstrong6993
      @jakearmstrong6993 6 років тому +35

      Viccatrix That might actually be WORSE than nothing...

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 6 років тому +15

      i would prefer to have one more day over countdown (i am still waiting a follow up to the spiderman/deadpool storyline. A follow up where where spidey, mj, deadpool, silver surfer, doctor strange, x-23, loki and doctor doom, and ghost rider go to kick mephisto's ass. and blackheart's too)

    • @DG-vb4vn
      @DG-vb4vn 6 років тому +2

      What even is a comic book section

    • @SuperDevolution
      @SuperDevolution 6 років тому +7

      Inadequate Charbroiled Steak Lots of public libraries have trade paperbacks. My local library had a ton of Spiderman comics when I was a teen.

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 5 років тому +5

      That reminds me: My public library also has a comics section (I remember it being mostly Superman and Supergirl but that was a few years ago so I could be wrong). Now that I've started reading comics (Kamala Khan and Wonder Woman fan) I should stop by there and see what they got.

  • @Dreigonix
    @Dreigonix 5 років тому +54

    “It’s a dead-baby monster that eats poop.”
    And suddenly Edmund Macmillan had a brilliant idea for a game...

  • @LaineMann
    @LaineMann Рік тому +14

    You know, this may be awful but I will give it one thing: Forager is adorable.

  • @Mask0fFate
    @Mask0fFate 8 років тому +170

    The Mary Marvel stuff is even stupider when you realize that one super hero in the DCU, Osiris, got his powers from Black Adam as well, and from what I've read, Osiris is actually a pretty good kid. Heck, during Blackest Night, he sacrificed his life in order to stop a Black Lantern Sobek from further harming the citizens of Khandaq. Sounds like a hero to me.

    • @dannyfenlon2476
      @dannyfenlon2476 7 років тому +33

      Samuel Johnson in other words?
      GO
      TO
      HELL
      COUNTDOWN

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 6 років тому +19

      thank god grant morrison took advantage of "apokolips people possesing heroes" and chose mary marvel as the victims. is similar to the parallax explanation. too bad dc still watedto screw with mary after morrison somehow saved her dignity as a hero

    • @cameronstone4495
      @cameronstone4495 6 років тому +29

      Hell the whole thing with Osiris was that he thought that Black Adam's powers were corrupting him and they totally weren't at all so there's no reason that they would make Mary Marvel evil...twice?!?

    • @williamtimonen6814
      @williamtimonen6814 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah, the family Linkara was speaking about right before that happened.

    • @furioussherman7265
      @furioussherman7265 2 роки тому +6

      And now Young Justice is about to do the whole "Mary Marvel turning evil" shtick a hundred times better than this comic ever could.

  • @CarlSlime
    @CarlSlime 7 років тому +171

    It's pretty sad how interesting some of these stories sound. Searching the entire multiverse for Ray Palmer in an epic tale to stop a coming disaster, an entire issue dedicated to a funeral where we can see some humanity in characters and how they grieve and the consequences of losing friends and loved ones, a murder mystery involving somebody MURDERING GODS, Jimmy Olsen finding out Clark's secret.
    Interesting story ideas, to be sure.
    Too bad it's all shit.

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 6 років тому +29

      Not to mention the ideas of :
      New Gods/Apokolips People posessing heroes and villains (Granny godness possesed Athena, Desaad possesed Mary Marvel, etc).
      Jimmy Olsen getting all his powers of the silver age.
      This series had so many cool concepts all gone to the toiler. Fuck Dan Dio and Jonathan Tzachor and Joe Quesada iby the way (Tzachor did to Power Rangers Megaforce/Super Megaforce what Dio did to Coundown to final crisis and Quesada did to spiderman in one more day.). Thank goodness grant morrison managed to save Final crisis

  • @MTdaBlacking
    @MTdaBlacking 10 років тому +50

    This feels like every additional plot thread was meant to sell another batch of comics....And that just proves how greedy some people can be...

    • @theicyartist4243
      @theicyartist4243 10 років тому +2

      Yup.

    • @SammEater
      @SammEater 2 місяці тому

      It was the comic book equivalent of the post credits scene. Nothing but a disguised ad for another product.

  • @brianbrush5107
    @brianbrush5107 5 років тому +16

    Its truly astounding how a series can have way too much happen, yet Also have absolutely nothing happen.

  • @infamousempire8302
    @infamousempire8302 4 роки тому +15

    For those wondering why this comic sucks so much. The DC editors (Dan DiDio specifically) hated 52 because the executives gave the writers more authority over the book than them. So when they made Countdown, the point was that the editors would have complete control over every issue's creation, because they (supposedly) had better judgement than the writers themselves. Yeah......

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 7 днів тому

      The stupid gut was and still IS a writer himself; he should've just pushed to join the team if he wanted it so badly!

  • @guyincognito7509
    @guyincognito7509 9 років тому +43

    Countdown is basically just a series of vaguely related filler moments, with some sort of beginning, middle, and end fit into there somewhere.

  • @Nala15-Artist
    @Nala15-Artist 3 роки тому +13

    8:08 - This is literally a great monologue to use to describe almost any reconning of a previously evil character with questionable morals into a "but the devil made them do it" story. This retconning CAN work, but it often makes the character uninteresting and gives them an excuse rather than having them be a legit foil for the morally good hero and/or it cheats them out of being complex.

  • @megamania7106
    @megamania7106 9 років тому +125

    So wait, it took HALF of the whole series to get all this information, JESUS! even the subspace emissary gives MORE information in one fourth of the subspace emissary.

    • @jmhguy
      @jmhguy 9 років тому +45

      and none of them have any dialog at all(except snake who said"Kept you waiting huh?")

    • @kimifw58
      @kimifw58 8 років тому +22

      +jmhguy Subspace Emissary is an excellent example of Show, Don't Tell. We can all learn from it.

    • @Dreigonix
      @Dreigonix 5 років тому +9

      +Kimi FW
      Yeah, it is! World of Light is cool and all, but The Subspace Emissary was much deeper.

    • @FixTheWi-Fi
      @FixTheWi-Fi 5 років тому +3

      Tabuu VS the Anti-Monitor

  • @HBHaga
    @HBHaga 7 років тому +78

    Linkara has said several times that the Teen Titans are his favorite super-hero group, with the Technis Imperative and Devin Grayson's run on the title being what got him into comics. I'm in much the same boat although, being older, it was the arc that had Duela Dent joining the team for me. As such I've always had a soft spot for the little loon and Countdown axed her in it's very first issue. DC caught some flack over yet another Titans death (they were dropping like flies at the time and would continue to do so for several years) and claimed that Dent's death would send ripples across the DCU! ... I've seen more ripples on a Pringle's chip.

  • @ethanedwards3357
    @ethanedwards3357 4 роки тому +18

    I kinda wish Duela Dent and The Jokester were permanent characters.

  • @iamaunicorn1232
    @iamaunicorn1232 8 років тому +57

    As someone not familiar with the DC cannon this sounds like a marketing hub-series to push a load of mini-series. Y'know, for teh monies. XD

  • @macrussell78
    @macrussell78 8 років тому +63

    3:17 Behold! I am the Monitor of Universe 52! There are some who call me...Tim?

    • @TheRealGaucelm
      @TheRealGaucelm 8 років тому +19

      +Mac Russell "Greetings, Tim the Monitor."

    • @Bauglir100
      @Bauglir100 7 років тому +15

      "Tim, it's Susie! Our house is on fire, can you come over?"

    • @MegaAnimazing
      @MegaAnimazing 7 років тому +9

      I cannot Susie, I am a monitor.

    • @macrussell78
      @macrussell78 7 років тому +8

      Jonathan Szuhai *watches Susie's house burn dow. We should do something! ...

    • @MegaAnimazing
      @MegaAnimazing 7 років тому +6

      *THEN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE FIRE, GET SOME WATER TO PUT IT OUT, CALL THE FIREFIGHTERS, ANYTHING!!!!*

  • @scarletspeed7
    @scarletspeed7 7 років тому +86

    Man, everything 52 did right, Countdown did completely and utterly wrong.

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 6 років тому +22

      Well Dan Dio Thought 52 was bulshit and countdown was 52 done right. That man is crazy

    • @cameronstone4495
      @cameronstone4495 6 років тому +33

      Further proof of Dan Didio's insanity include;
      -Breaking up Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon.
      -Making Geoff Johns turn Impulse into Kid Flash and get rid of his personality.
      -Making Greg Rucka quit DC by giving Wonder Woman: Earth One, which he was promised, to Grant Morrison .
      -Trying to kill Dick Grayson in Infinite Crisis (he was supposed to die instead of Superboy).
      -Made Wally West stop being the Flash and generally sidelining him from the DCU as a whole.
      -The New 52...enough said (also DC YOU).
      -He also worked on Beast Machines (the Transformers Beast Wars sequel) if that means anything to anyone.

    • @kunami13sora
      @kunami13sora 5 років тому +3

      Rob Lowe you’ve got it man!

    • @Ale_LSH
      @Ale_LSH 5 років тому +4

      Cameron Stone He also said a new Legion comic series was coming and here we are still waiting, with the Legion forgotten during their 60th anniversary and not being even referenced during Action Comics #1000 despite being an important part of Superman’s history.

    • @Jazzypants2007
      @Jazzypants2007 5 років тому +7

      @@cameronstone4495 He's not crazy. Dan DiDio is, and always will be, a fucking IDIOT.

  • @femoman
    @femoman 8 років тому +62

    It's a testament to the insane genius of Grant Morrison that he was somehow able to make something as crazy awesome as Final Crisis, out of the aftermath of this shit-heap!

    • @alucardyoici
      @alucardyoici 8 років тому +31

      +Michael Welsh (Femoman) it helps that he didn't bother reading countdown and just made the story

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 6 років тому +14

      Grant Morrison. He might had some hiccups in his career (wanting to turn magneto into a sociopath, and wanting to kill rogue and put a substitute based in her x-men evolution incarnation), however, almost 90% of hat he writes is insanely awesome. God bless him. especilly because he alone saved Final crisis (i am surprised they didnt let him write countdown especially considering he was among the 4 people who made 52 awesome and he wrote final crisis.)

    • @ecliptorcalrissian5014
      @ecliptorcalrissian5014 3 роки тому +2

      I hear Final Crisis, as in the thing Countdown was counting down to, actually ignored this totally, as if it never happened.

    • @femoman
      @femoman 3 роки тому +2

      @@ecliptorcalrissian5014 pretty much, yeah. There were a few things, like the universe destroyed by the Mortococcus virus being Earth 51, which the monitor Nix Uotan is framed for destroying. And the deaths of all the New Gods, with the Apokalips ones being reborn in new bodies, while the Genesis ones are reborn at the end when Earth 51 is brought back to life as the Kamandi universe.
      But yeah, the majority was ignored.

    • @saidi7975
      @saidi7975 2 роки тому +1

      Nah, both are shit. It's like picking cyanide over arsenic...

  • @rossenator101
    @rossenator101 7 років тому +28

    So basically countdown making fear itself look like a masterpiece

  • @davidspring4003
    @davidspring4003 8 років тому +47

    Donna Troy IS Rambo!
    ...I'd probably watch that...

    • @SrGurkman
      @SrGurkman 8 років тому +14

      Its probably the only way well get a Teen Titans movie.

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 5 років тому +1

      I would ABSOLUTELY watch that! :D

    • @shanehudson3995
      @shanehudson3995 5 років тому

      @@JaelinBezel I watched the first episode of Titans.
      You don't want this.

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 5 років тому +1

      @@shanehudson3995 No i meant Donna Troy cast as John Rambo.

  • @fats3342
    @fats3342 3 роки тому +6

    So that's why it's "disaster stoppin' Ray Palmer"

  • @CNWhatImSaiyan
    @CNWhatImSaiyan 8 років тому +5

    Knowing what's coming up in the following episodes of this, "Donna Troy: First Blood" is going to be my happy place from here on out

  • @Bibliosection
    @Bibliosection 8 років тому +6

    Do you think the writers (or maybe I should say editors) ever realized that having Piper and Trickster running around handcuffed together is like the most cliched fanfic prompt next to High School Au?

    • @PixieoftheWood
      @PixieoftheWood 7 років тому +5

      You know, one fan theory of why Trickster suddenly turned homophobic was because the sexual tension of being handcuffed to Piper was just too much for the Trickster to ignore anymore. This theory is somewhat supported by him referring to himself as 'hobosexual' in his last joke, then proceeding to use Hartley's name. If that was what they were getting at it would have been an interesting twist...but then they shot him in the head so we'll never know.

    • @Bibliosection
      @Bibliosection 7 років тому +3

      That actually makes a lot of sense. There have been lots of instances (in fiction and real life) of closeted homosexuals being particularly cruel to those out of the closet. And, let's be honest, the Piper is quite a catch, wouldn't surprise me if the Trickster felt a little something when with him. I rather like that fan theory, thanks for telling me it. (And that is a darn shame about Trickster dying before this speculative character arc could come to a completion)

  • @DeclanCorey
    @DeclanCorey 5 років тому +5

    At least we can all agree that Zatanna is SMOKING HOT

  • @DeathGodRiku
    @DeathGodRiku 3 роки тому +6

    I find it funny how past Linkara says there's no way he could do 51 issues for a review since Linkara has done several retrospectives

  • @Gyarretto7
    @Gyarretto7 5 років тому +9

    I can't even imagine what it was like to read Countdown when it was first coming out. And for as much pain as I'm sure this review was for Linkara, I feel like the Countdown reviews are what made him the badass he is today! This is the kind of rite of passage that makes any great critic.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 5 років тому +3

      Gyarretto7 somehow futures end was even worse then countdown which I had no idea how that was even possible

  • @jakebryant3445
    @jakebryant3445 8 років тому +30

    Countdown= Dan Didio's wet fantasy of pointlessly and shamelessly killing off characters. Are we sure he isn't a serial killer?

    • @anthonyrodriguez1119
      @anthonyrodriguez1119 7 років тому +10

      Jake Bryant
      maybe he's been repressing his darker desires by killing fictional characters.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 3 роки тому +6

      He killed DC, everything bad goes back to Damn Dodo and Countdown.

    • @jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
      @jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets Рік тому +1

      Depends on what we'd find in his basement.

    • @billymccrary2246
      @billymccrary2246 5 місяців тому +2

      This proves that Dan Didio should've be completely banned from being a head editor of any comic book companies, just like... AT ALL!!
      That guy should been highly ashamed of himself with decisions like this and other stuffs.

  • @SrGurkman
    @SrGurkman 9 років тому +34

    I enjoy it when Marvel puts in footnotes to reference events in other books when they're referenced. In most of the DC solo series, since everyone doesn't live in the same city, they're not really necessary, but they'd really be helpful for event series. Not that this excuses Countdown doing silly stuff like this.

    • @callianr6980
      @callianr6980 6 років тому +2

      PennyPlunderer Well, I know they did that with Dark Knights Metal since I read it recently.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 5 років тому +1

      Callian r yup and dark knights metal was epic

  • @lorddrayvon1426
    @lorddrayvon1426 4 роки тому +5

    I think the main reason people don't read comics as much as they used to is simple. It has continuity so thickly intertwined that you'd be lost after missing one issue. This story continuium is also why many Nickelodeon shows are self-intertwined so they can air them in whatever order they plead. Sure, the MCU had the same issues but those movies are easier to get hold of and don't cease printing after the next film comes out. Even then, places like Netflix and Amazon Prime provide ways to watch these films.

  • @LiveNiceness14
    @LiveNiceness14 5 років тому +5

    Love triangle between Donna, Green Lantern and fucking Red Hood?? Damn, Rest In Peace Terry Long and her son.

  • @101Draico
    @101Draico 5 років тому +8

    Trickster, pied piper is not allowed to get married because dc refuses to let any characters get married.... because.... because... no one really knows and it annoys everybody

    • @MrGMoney1944
      @MrGMoney1944 4 роки тому +1

      How about the new weird relationship between Lois and Clark were they have to do stuff and may or may not be married still.

  • @adambesley4455
    @adambesley4455 7 років тому +7

    Salvation Run was actually very good. Mostly because it told it's own story and had barely anything to do Countdown. It was just an awesome tale of Super-villains fighting for survival and their different personalities clashing.

    • @sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595
      @sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595 4 роки тому +2

      I think it would have been way better as an Elseworld. Think about it - Space Supervillain Australia. A world ruled and colonized by super-villains.
      Some would try to get back home, others would decide to rule this new world instead of the old one. Factions form and split. They have to deal with an alien world. New friendships, alliances, lovers and emnities form.
      The populace is composed mainly of metas, mad geniuses, criminals, genetically-enhanced folks, mystical monsters and aliens. Mental issues are common in the next generation, because so much of the founding stock is crazy. That, and superpowers. Never a good combination.
      Not to mention... What if the government keeps sending more criminals? What if it goes from supervillains to normal criminals? And on and on.
      Imagine... A world created by supervillains. And then Earth and these guys meet again, generations later.
      Its like... Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, with supervillains. But it ended being boring because they never ran with the concept

  • @swguygardner
    @swguygardner 6 років тому +24

    Writing tip: If you have multiple teams of characters looking for different things:
    DO- reveal they are all, unknowingly, looking for the same thing in shocking, unexpected twist.
    DON'T- meander along for 51 issues and reveal that most of the plots are unrelated and ultimately pointless.

    • @mitchellalexander9162
      @mitchellalexander9162 Рік тому +1

      I mean you COULD Do something where the actions of One Group unknowingly effect the Other like Killing the Big bad's Dragon or splitting his forces.

    • @swguygardner
      @swguygardner Рік тому +1

      @@mitchellalexander9162 yeah, I suppose the "DON'T" is more relevant than the "DO" XD

  • @princealigorna7468
    @princealigorna7468 10 років тому +16

    I know it's been years, but I still can't forgive the murder of Duela. I will say this though: for a character known for appearing like 2 dozen times in 30 years, sometimes going 5 years a stretch without a single mention, I'm glad the writer on Teen Titans at the time (I can't recall if it was Beecham or McKeever...funny how both were tied to this series) thought she was important enough to warrant a funeral scene. A WELL DONE funeral scene.
    I wish every Titan DC has killed off was worthy of that. The only other one I can think of in recent years was Terra II in 52, and I think that was part of a group memorial scene for all the characters Black Adam killed in the WWIII mini, and even then I got pissed off with it because Rose Wilson said she didn't really even know the characters that well: BULLSHIT, ROSE! You were best friends with Tara back during your first stint on the Titans, and Kyle said that you and her worked like a well oiled military tandem!

    • @MTdaBlacking
      @MTdaBlacking 10 років тому +2

      I wish they'd bring her back in less of a horrific form than the reboot form...

    • @princealigorna7468
      @princealigorna7468 10 років тому +1

      I avoided the reboot form like the plague. If it's not a fantasy title or Vertigo like the Fablesverse, I don't read DC anymore. That's something I thought I would never say.

    • @MrGMoney1944
      @MrGMoney1944 8 років тому

      +Prince Aligorna oh you mean stupid daughter of joker? I am going to sew some guys face on mine and inject myself with Jokers blood. Seriously why did she do that? I mean it would be one thing if she thought by doing it she would get some powers or something.

    • @princealigorna7468
      @princealigorna7468 8 років тому +1

      MrGMoney1944
      Again, I don't know what they did with her for the reboot. I don't care what they did with her for the reboot. I'm sure it's something that would just piss me the fuck off

  • @oblivious8868
    @oblivious8868 3 роки тому +4

    5:11
    I don't know why this part makes me laugh so hard, but it does. Thanks, Lewis.

  • @deviousj5868
    @deviousj5868 6 років тому +6

    I love this end theme. It should be used more often.

  • @WillEnglish
    @WillEnglish 7 років тому +10

    Look on the bright side...at least Final Crisis chucked Countdown into the incinerator.

  • @janebyrne6463
    @janebyrne6463 Рік тому +8

    Linkara says, "This is why kids don't read comics anymore, they're more mature than the writers!" Actually, when I go to one of the local bookstores where I live, there are whole sections of graphic novels geared toward Elementary and/or Middle School aged children. There has been much controversy about if graphic novels should be counted as reading. Although I don't pretend to be an expert on learning, graphic novels can be (and are) instrumental in getting reluctant readers to read something not assigned by a parent or teacher. Since kids these days (who take a daily dose of irony along with their UA-cam and/or TikTok) are more visually oriented than we were growing up. You have to get people in the church before you can preach to them.

  • @babaracus9583
    @babaracus9583 3 роки тому +10

    Some say EA was inspired by this comic

  • @DAsrada
    @DAsrada 6 років тому +4

    Bill The Monitor: Hey, we don't choose our names. I just popped into existence Bill the Monitor. Gatator of Universe 17 got a cool name. I work in Universe 6. Its where Linkara reviews holographic comics, and Nostalgia Critic reviews old forms of media.

  • @Judgebirb
    @Judgebirb 9 років тому +13

    man comic book writers really need a guy who walks around asking what their working on and then hit them in the face with a stick

  • @appabend
    @appabend 9 років тому +46

    2:42 Stones and Glass Houses, Jason Todd.

    • @Bauglir100
      @Bauglir100 8 років тому +2

      +appabend Wrong analogy.

    • @tymiller2903
      @tymiller2903 6 років тому +3

      Appabend I didn't know you liked Linkara.

  • @Canadamus_Prime
    @Canadamus_Prime 4 роки тому +2

    "What did you see?!"
    "No I did not see you playing with your dolls again."
    "Good!"

  • @New3DSLuigi364
    @New3DSLuigi364 7 років тому +5

    @2:48-2:54
    Continuity Alarm: EH! EH! EH!
    Linkara: That was a Bit Delayed wasn't it?
    Continuity Alarm(You made a Good Point): Eh! Eh! Eh!

  • @sonic8005
    @sonic8005 7 років тому +6

    They had a book called Countdown which tells the same story essentially but cuts out a LOT of the unnecessary garbage from it. It's a novel that's actually not a bad read if you ask me, though they still had to keep the dumbest part about Mary Marvel becoming evil a second time...

  • @Jackstalkerfear
    @Jackstalkerfear 4 роки тому +3

    Man looking at these old ones and then the new videos you can see how far linkara got!

  • @buddyb3165
    @buddyb3165 4 роки тому +5

    Me: Can someone explain countdown in 20 words or less?
    Linkara: THESE COMICS SUCK!
    Also Me: Ya did it in 3 didnt think you had it in you.

  • @RoyalFusilier
    @RoyalFusilier 10 років тому +7

    8:30 Oh hey, it's my problem with the Dark Side of the Force from Star Wars when it's presented as a corrupting influence you can't stop rather than choices people make nearly summed up years and years ago.

    • @RoyalFusilier
      @RoyalFusilier 10 років тому +10

      Hm. Well, put it this way. If somebody's forced against their will to do an evil act, are they evil? Most people in our society, and our society itself, would generally answer 'no' if they honestly had no choice. In fact, a working definition for 'evil person' might be gathered as 'person who chooses things we consider evil when they had alternate, less-evil choices'. This is why things like insanity are considered defenses in court.
      So, if the Dark Side truly corrupts and you don't have a choice about it, is the Emperor evil? Yeah, of course, he's a cackling evil bastard. But did he have a choice? The Jedi always present it as 'take one step and then you're down the dark path forever' but, uh.
      Well I guess that gets into my problem with the Light Side, since it's in a dichotomy with the Dark Side. Your options are either: Not live life to the fullest (deny emotion, sexuality, and ambition for yourself) OR become literally Evil, and those are The Only Two Choices.
      That by itself, regardless of other factors, is a really, really horrifying world to consider. It's bleak as hell. Thus, I don't like it.
      Basically, the sort of Free Will and Destiny and Nature of Evil discussions people have had forever.

    • @flair541
      @flair541 10 років тому +1

      HuntrBlackLuna You. Are. Awesome.

    • @tedculbertson6320
      @tedculbertson6320 10 років тому +1

      HuntrBlackLuna The way I understand it, you have to choose to fall to the dark side, but once you've used that power, it can further corrupt you. Your emotions will tell you to kill and be evil, but of course you can turn your back on the dark side, like Vader did in the end. You're right about the light side though. The Jedi before Luke's era were stupid. Luke and Revan were both able to use positive emotions and self-control, rather than total self-denial.

    • @kyriss12
      @kyriss12 9 років тому +4

      HuntrBlackLuna in the original trilogy it was implied the path to the dark side was a slow progression where a jedi compramises starts compramising their ideal a lttle bit at a time, kinda like in real life. there's actually a really cool bit near the end of the 3rd movie where Luke flips his shit and nearly kills Darth in anger, the emperor tries to goad Luke into changing sides and Luke's all like" no i fucked up, don't think I'm gonna do it again anytime soon.Then the prequels came and we learned that love can make you think it's a good idea to kill a bunch of children, and then turn on the person you loved in the first place.

    • @flamemasterelan
      @flamemasterelan 8 років тому

      +kyriss12 It's not that love can make you kill children. It's that Anakin was kind of fucked up from the start, it's just that nobody noticed, or tried to change those aspects of his character. He was always willing to turn his back on his teachings and give in to rage. When he found out his mother was captured by the sand people, he went to rescue her. And after she died he flipped and started slaughtering every sand person, men, women and children who were there.
      You might create a separation between Sand People and humans, but that's difficult to do in a world like Star Wars, where you have creatures that look like Jabba the Hut being crime bosses on the same planet as the more humanoid Sand People.

  • @lometraid6798
    @lometraid6798 6 років тому +6

    Well.. on the topic of the name “Mr Action” it could be a reference to the fact that Superman appeared in ACTION comics bearing in mind that doesn’t lessen the stupidity of this comic

  • @edwardramos4591
    @edwardramos4591 5 років тому +7

    Anyone remember that scene where Biff threw a ball on the roof? Most of these plot hooks are the comic equivalent of that scene.

  • @davidspring4003
    @davidspring4003 8 років тому +14

    you know, for a story that was an editorial mandate, the editors could have been doing their ACTUAL job a bit better than...the NON-EXISTENT EDITORS FOR SUPERMAN AT EARTH'S END!!!

    • @RainaThrownAway
      @RainaThrownAway 8 років тому +1

      +David Spring The editors were drunk. For an entire year.

    • @davidspring4003
      @davidspring4003 8 років тому +3

      Ryan P obviously, or this awful mess wouldn't have been mandated.

  • @Dovah21
    @Dovah21 5 років тому +3

    You feel hold when you realize this video is 10 years old.

  • @theblacksheep1000
    @theblacksheep1000 6 років тому +8

    03:31 WOW THIS COMIC PREDICTED ITS OWN OUTCOME! lol

  • @theangryholmesian4556
    @theangryholmesian4556 3 роки тому +4

    Bob Monitor. Monitor Refrigeration.

  • @PaceFilmsProductions
    @PaceFilmsProductions 6 років тому +5

    I know he's entitled to his own opinion but it still blows my mind that he went with the current song over the one in the credits.

  • @jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
    @jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets 2 роки тому +2

    If I could redo the storyline I think instead of that stuff with the virus and everything connected to it I would have Bob the Monitor's group, Monarch's group, and the Apokiliptans going against each other in pursuit of the Anti-Life Equation (that's it, that's the whole story). The forces of New Genesis intervene in an attempt to hold Darkseid up when Monarch's forces enter the fray. That's what causes the New Gods to start dying, gaining the attention of the heroes not already involved in the conflict. While this clusterfuck is happening Bob's group is moving around under the radar in fear of attracting either faction's attention and finding Ray Palmer by total accident and unfortunately running into Superboy Prime (not aged up due to stupid reasons and with his man-child tendencies dialled way the hell down to make him bearable). Of all people it is Jason who talks down Prime and gets him into a non hostile mindset to cooperate, the two start talking and eventually reach a surprisingly meaningful conversation over how they'll never be able to get back to those happier times and have to make due with what lies ahead (you know, character development). Which is great timing because their search for the Anti-Life Equation takes them to the Antimatter Universe and they find an alive but heavily injured Anti-Monitor and it's revealed that he has the Anti-Life Equation. Even with Prime's help the Anti-Monitor is too far out of their weight class, but his help keeps them alive (barely) until other people get there. Darkseid and Monarch are soon to follow Bob's group and the last part of the story is just a three way fight between Monarch, Darkseid, and the weakened Anti-Monitor for control of the Anti-Life Equation. The last panels are of a universe destroying explosion and Darkseid standing triumphant with the Anti-Life Equation finally in his grasp to kick off Final Crisis. Not sure if this fits into the then continuity all that well, but at least it isn't an incomprehensible mess like the actual Countdown is.

  • @Ryushinku
    @Ryushinku 10 років тому +2

    I love having your little retrospectives on these episodes as you upload them here. It's a nice look at what you were thinking and how you were going about them at the time, adds some flavour to it.

  • @PixieoftheWood
    @PixieoftheWood 7 років тому +3

    The worst part is, countdown was literally the first time Trickster ever expressed any homophobia. Which would be fine if it was the first time he'd ever been shown interacting with Piper, but it's most definitely not. After Mirror Master framed the Piper for his parents' murder, the Trickster was the first person Piper went to for help after he broke out of prison, and once Trickster finds out that Piper was innocent, he ended up intentionally seeking him out to bring down the unreformed Rogues. They proceed to work together just fine. Prior to that, in the 90's, when the Pied Piper believed the man running for president was actually the Top (he wasn't, but he Vice President was), Trickster is the one he chose to seek out when Wally West wouldn't believe him. Prior to that, they had both been members of the same super villain team. In which they seemed to work together just fine.
    So I'm supposed to believe that Piper through all those years kept willingly associating with this guy who is apparently homophobic? Or did something happen to make Trickster suddenly freak out about the fact that gay people exist? Did Trickster get drunk and wake up next to some dude, and now he's taking his own uncertainty about his sexual orientation out on the only gay man he knows? We'll never know, because he was shot in the head before any of this could be clarified.

  • @johnathancopson9328
    @johnathancopson9328 9 років тому +9

    well I suppose after a tough day working the slaves pits he uses the toys as a sort of stress reliever, although it makes it harder to take him seriously after that revelation...

  • @Jemini4228
    @Jemini4228 3 роки тому +2

    Sending the villains off to a random planet to fend for themselves. Jim Kirk can tell you that's a bad idea that will absolutely come back to bite you in a revenge served with a side of Moby Dick references!

  • @TtheWriter
    @TtheWriter 7 років тому +14

    So from what Linkara is describing, "52" isn't so much a comic story... as it is a throw-away zone for things that are happening BETWEEN about half a dozen other stories? Goodness, I haven't seen anything like this since the Dragonlance novels! D:

    • @TheRiku57
      @TheRiku57 7 років тому +9

      You'd be right..... BUT 52 actually turned up stories BETTER than what said stories were linking to.

  • @sarahjamesinasarah6423
    @sarahjamesinasarah6423 Місяць тому

    If there’s one thing I’ll forever be thankful to this review for, it’s the only reason I first discovered “Countdown to Insanity” when i first watched it over a decade ago and it’s remained one of my favourite songs ever.

  • @Thoran666
    @Thoran666 7 років тому +7

    Watching Linkara I sometimes wonder how DC became such a big player on the market

    • @SorowFame
      @SorowFame 4 роки тому +4

      Pretty sure it's a case of first come, first served. Also Batman.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 роки тому +2

      Watching Linkara, it does become obvious how Marvel eventually rose up to take DC's lunch money at frequent points of their shared history.

    • @InTheSky521
      @InTheSky521 2 місяці тому

      I know this reply is years late but didn't he really only cover bad comics specifically back then? I don't think the show should be used as the gauge for DC's usual quality.

  • @islamroks11
    @islamroks11 8 років тому +22

    1:26 Has anyone noticed that Linkara's left hand is on Harley Quinn's butt? It's not even like he's just trying to support her and that it was an accident since he could just use his arm. It really looks like Linkara's using the excuse of carrying Harley Quinn as an opportunity to cop a feel on her ass. Well, it doesn't look like she minds...

    • @KidSnivy69
      @KidSnivy69 8 років тому +15

      As shamed I am to admit it, can't say I blame him.

    • @shis1988
      @shis1988 7 років тому +8

      islamroks11 (90s Kid pops up)
      DUUUUUUUUUUUDE! The obvious thing to do with a girl you save is grab her ass! She will fall even more with you and then allow you to TAP IT!

  • @kevinbergman3784
    @kevinbergman3784 8 років тому +6

    I gave this two issues and was like nope. I can't believe how many people kept reading the series because no one seems to like it.

  • @ZeromusHarvey
    @ZeromusHarvey 9 років тому +33

    Why doesn't Linkara use that ending song more? It's almost as good as the usual one. Like, 99.9% as good.

    • @PaceFilmsProductions
      @PaceFilmsProductions 9 років тому +8

      Zeromus22 it's better honestly.

    • @andrewgwilliam4831
      @andrewgwilliam4831 7 років тому +1

      Zeromus22 Nah, the usual one is better in my view.

    • @deviousj5868
      @deviousj5868 6 років тому +3

      I like it and want the full version.

    • @RunyaEithelNar
      @RunyaEithelNar 6 років тому +1

      I susepct it would cost more, this song has two singers and the usual one has only one. It also avoids problems when they would break up and one side wouldn't want this song to be played. So even when I really like this song and prefer this from normal ending one, I understand this choice.

  • @princealigorna7468
    @princealigorna7468 10 років тому +3

    Let's move on to the love triangle: Donna and Kyle had a thing back during said Titans run with Terra II and Rose, at the same time her and Roy Harper were burying their timultuous relationship. It was a good story, at a time the Titans were known for being a shell of their former selves. Seriously, everything from after the Trigon Seed/Evil Bikini Raven era was really good though. I loved the Siege of Zi Charam, because of the stuff with Roy, Donna, and Kyle, and because of the crush between Damage and Terra II (Rose's stint came just after that story, and was the beginning of the wind-down of that Titans series, sadly, but those issues were pretty good too and Impulse's crush on Rose was both sweet and something I was glad Johns touched on in his reboot of the team). Anyways, I said all that to say this: I can understand them still having feelings for each other...but why Jason? Jason was 13 when he knew Donna, and that was long before she met Kyle!

    • @theicyartist4243
      @theicyartist4243 10 років тому +1

      O_o

    • @princealigorna7468
      @princealigorna7468 10 років тому +1

      Oh trust me, I'm a really big Titans fan. I'm not saying I know everything. Linkara probably knows 20x's more than I do, as there's large portion of the Wolfman era I don't have because they've never been collected. And both of us pale in comparison to Bill Walko. But I know more than enough to recognize how stupid that attempt at a love triangle was.

  • @JaelinBezel
    @JaelinBezel 5 років тому +3

    So THIS is where Earth-11 came from. Gotta say, conceptually, it's easily my favorite.

  • @JanetStarChild
    @JanetStarChild 5 років тому +2

    That ending song sounds really good; Like, damn, that was stellar!

  • @ignacionadeo1306
    @ignacionadeo1306 8 років тому +6

    This was back when you lived with your parents, wasn't it?
    I hafta say, you've come a long, long way since. These days, you can scream with impunity.

  • @Salixa456
    @Salixa456 10 років тому +3

    I'd need a flowchart that covered an entire wall to keep up with this...

  • @ericgallwey5406
    @ericgallwey5406 4 роки тому +5

    Seeing Jason Todd in this just makes me wish I was watching Batman: Under the Red Hood. Which is waaaaaaaaay better than this garbage. BTW Love your channel and keep up the good work.

  • @Obiwan1994Kenobi-iv4jf
    @Obiwan1994Kenobi-iv4jf 7 років тому +5

    3:30 Bob, you... are my number one.... guy!!

  • @dreadpiraterobin8379
    @dreadpiraterobin8379 7 місяців тому +1

    What's funny about the Mary marvel subplot is there were, I believe, two black Adam miniseries following up on the events of 52 and WWIII, and both completely ignored it.
    Hell it doesn't even make sense for him to have his powers in countdown because at the time the only powers he had were those he was siphoning from Isis' bones, and he did so VERY rarely and wasn't in a position to give them away, since they were the only chance of bringing her back and didn't want to use their finite power.

  • @mattbrajkovic249
    @mattbrajkovic249 6 років тому +4

    The intro is a godsend

  • @MyMagnificentOctopus
    @MyMagnificentOctopus 3 роки тому +4

    If her father is the Jokester, shouldn't Duela Dent be "The Jokester's Daughter"? (I know, the Jokester didn't exist until after they killed her, but still, seems a bit odd.)

  • @expleatifdelited982
    @expleatifdelited982 5 років тому +3

    Holy moley and because I've been reading comics as far back as I can remember I can't lock down if that's from Robin the original Batman TV series or the original Golden Age Captain Marvel! This series went completely under my radar and boy am I glad I was able to skip it until this....recap.
    Thanks Linkara. Thanks for taking one for the team.
    By the way WHERE did you get the four finger bionic glove at the end of the video?
    I
    MUST
    KNOW FROM....
    Yeah yeah I know the internet.
    Heavy sigh

  • @isaacbailey3681
    @isaacbailey3681 6 років тому +4

    5:43 for the win.

  • @dreadpiraterobin8379
    @dreadpiraterobin8379 7 місяців тому +2

    It's a little funny that out of all the heroes they could've sent the legion sent triplicate girl... without her two other parts. So the one character on their roster who can't do anything.

  • @snakes3425
    @snakes3425 7 років тому +7

    So how did the epicness that was Final Crisis come out of a debacle like Countdown again?

    • @CNWhatImSaiyan
      @CNWhatImSaiyan 7 років тому +3

      They ignored Countdown and focused elsewhere

  • @appabend
    @appabend 9 років тому +80

    5:21 That... is just five levels of wrong.

    • @irrespondible
      @irrespondible 6 років тому +3

      Because Donna and Jason are in their early 20s at best and Kyle Rainer is, if my memories are right, several years above that, around his 40s. Hell, he was already grown up when both Donna and Jason were teens.

    • @jimaalmcguire6267
      @jimaalmcguire6267 6 років тому +8

      Richard Surraco Kyle is like 22, your thinking about HAL

    • @irrespondible
      @irrespondible 6 років тому

      Yeah, I noticed that late. After all, Hall becomes a Titan in, like, the third iteration of the team or so.

    • @dr.strangebat9397
      @dr.strangebat9397 6 років тому +2

      Inaudible profanity. Please stand by.

    • @zacharypreval3186
      @zacharypreval3186 4 роки тому

      Wouldn't Jason be much younger than donna?

  • @Aqua-Marine-UK_1991
    @Aqua-Marine-UK_1991 8 років тому +10

    that must of been a bitch to scan every page from 50 comics.
    holy crap i just notice this but in the titlecard linkara has his hand on her butt lol

  • @Fanatic_Foremem
    @Fanatic_Foremem 8 років тому +8

    to this day we still haven't gotten a solid explanation for buddy blank and brother eye from linkara. Kindof feels like one of those things he's planned to get to at some point.

    • @AT4W
      @AT4W  8 років тому +7

      +NekoVira Actually I recently explained Brother Eye (for the most part) in the Blue Beetle retrospective. ^_^

    • @Fanatic_Foremem
      @Fanatic_Foremem 8 років тому

      Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall
      didn't feel like a explanaition to me, just a mention of his involvement in the story.

    • @AT4W
      @AT4W  8 років тому +3

      NekoVira I get ya, though there really isn't much else that CAN be said - Satellite Network with artificial intelligence created by Batman who was co-opted by Maxwell Lord and Alex Luthor.

    • @Fanatic_Foremem
      @Fanatic_Foremem 8 років тому

      Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall
      wasn't there a superhero that was controled by brother eye in a similiar manner to khaji-da and jaime?

    • @AT4W
      @AT4W  8 років тому +3

      NekoVira OMAC, which was in itself a revival of an old character that the OMACs were based on. It's confusing and they keep trying to bring it back. XD

  • @bigslim7777
    @bigslim7777 Рік тому +3

    Jeez, i forgot how raw the og theme sounded...

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 6 років тому +4

    I still maintain futures end is dc’s new 52 countdown

  • @AndrewBullXandrew
    @AndrewBullXandrew 10 років тому +4

    Mechakara!

  • @lilspritah
    @lilspritah 6 років тому +5

    I've been so entertained and only just thought.. does Linkara even curse? Don't get me wrong i don't care if he does or doesn't it won't change my judgement of him I love the guy he makes me laugh regardless but I've never thought of it till he did the 'inaudible swearing'* so yea again would just like to know it anyone has ever heard him curse?

    • @AT4W
      @AT4W  6 років тому +6

      On the show? No, I try to keep it PG-13 around here. In real life? All the time, and in the movie. =)

    • @lilspritah
      @lilspritah 6 років тому +2

      Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall omg thank you linkara you make me so happy and I'm depressed you make me smile everyday I watch your vids never stop! Your a legend and don't let anyone ever call you anything other than great!

  • @ShinoSarna
    @ShinoSarna 4 роки тому +1

    3:00 Bam? Maybe the "bam bam" that Red Hood heard were the punches of the Monitor?

  • @ronaldhazelton7163
    @ronaldhazelton7163 9 років тому +4

    I'll read this whole comic line, i feel unclean

  • @wellthatwaswierd4570
    @wellthatwaswierd4570 2 роки тому +5

    Holy fucking shit, that closing theme kicks ASS
    So so so so good! Argh, why is THIS piece of awesome not the regular closing theme? Guy-with-acoustic-guitar is not high on my personal list of types of music I like, anyway. Though the normal one is OK, I think I have heard it too many times by now and I just might be tired of it through overplay.
    This ending theme though?! Wow wow WOW is it good. I would actually listen to it just on it's own as a song, and I don't remember ever having said that before about a show's theme song.
    Make this one the end theme on a permanent basis!

  • @Darkryu256
    @Darkryu256 10 років тому +19

    The ending theme in this video is EASILY superior to his opening theme he's been using for so damn long

  • @cassiedevereaux-smith3890
    @cassiedevereaux-smith3890 2 роки тому +2

    NGL, though, "Mr. Action" was super on brand.

  • @talk2myself315
    @talk2myself315 7 місяців тому +2

    Just a question, Lewis: have you ever considered covering anything of the awful Countdown tie-in series? Like the Search for Ray Palmer, Countdown to Mystery or Countdown Arena? Personally, my picks for the worst are Salvation Run and Death of the New Gods. I don't if they would qualify as event comics for you or not, but judging from your comments and common sense I certain they would supply you with no shortage of material. I would appreciate your thoughts on it, if you don't mind. :)
    Edit: I do recall you mentioning Jim Starlin's recent work needed a dressing down. Death of the New Gods is a good way to start, it's a slap to the face of Jack Kirby, comics, religious people or anybody with basic taste or intelligence (in my opinion).
    Final Edit: This era was finally the death knell of over 40 years of reading comics. This series is a microcosm of why that happened. I'm actually proud and impressed with how you've continued on.

  • @bul13ts
    @bul13ts 8 років тому +3

    I suppose one could explain this all away by saying it was the ineffable will of Bob.

  • @outlander8156
    @outlander8156 3 роки тому +6

    The gun wielding crazies line is supposed to be ironic

  • @RhyperiorRanger
    @RhyperiorRanger 6 років тому +5

    Countdown
    Aka “DC comics presents The Runaround”

  • @henrybelman7424
    @henrybelman7424 5 років тому +2

    14:39
    that is tecnecly a continuity error as oberon is human and is in constant contact with MM and BB and has been thrown into both New genisis and Apocolyps(sorry about the spelling).