I might own a GTR R35 someday when I save enough money. However my top of the line dream car besides a Nissan 350Z is the legendary Nissan Skyline GTR R34 preferably V-Spec.
Don't get offended but u won't own one. Cause u can't own a dream car if u don't have one. All u want is a jdm everybody will praise u about. If u want a dream car u shouldn't say I may instead u should say I will by working hard and saving
I'm saving money up and they helped me to narrow down what I want. Although I have a car already but I don't have my license but I will soon again be on the road. Good luck brudduh
This is something that not many people know but the e60 m5 can be a very reliable car if you buy one in good condition and address the issues before they happen. Meaning you will have to spend some money on reliability mods, most owners avoid this due to the cost. However, if you truly want an m5 and have the money you can make the car reliable, the truth is an e46 m3 will still be the better car lol. However, if you are set on an m5 and have 30k, go for it.
Joelikescars...You must own a BMW mechanic shop trying to pull in new customers..After owning brand new Bmw's and audi's I will never buy on again ..Straight money pits after 100k.. Now I will only buy Lexus, infiniti, and dodge!!! Rather spend my money on aftermarket parts instead of silly repairs on plastic German parts they use
@@JT-bk1gp tell me you know nothing about motor vehicles other than anecdotes without telling me you know nothing about motor vehicles other than anecdotes
Actually I do my own maintenance on my cars but with bmw's and other euro cars you need special damn tools ..And obviously you haven't heard of the notorious vanos problems on these cars..My lexus ISF is fast as hell and I drive it like I stole it and no problems..Going on 150k miles and no problems..Can't say the same for a bimmer and that's why I made the switch to lexus!!! Can't beat the reliability of a Toyota baby!!!!
It'll start, then the heater dies, and the dash lights stop working, the wiring harness then needs replacing, water pump fails, rear shock disconnects and some random sensor trips and puts the car in limp mode. That's just on the 2 mile drive to the drag strip.
During a medical emergency I redlined my Scion Tc Gen2 on a straight highway, it's top speed was 150, it sounded like I was driving a machine-gun with it bouncing off the rec limiter every time I had the slightest decline
@@cashisking4691 hell yeah! Even sold it to someone for 10k! With 106k km on it, they loved how smooth it shifted and its responsive handling and acceleration, everyone whos driven it loves it! Scion Tc gen1 and gen 2 are both known for being cars that can be pushed far beyond their factory limits, without expensive or time consuming upgrades, and if taken care of, will outlast the owner's children easily (its a toyota after all)
I really hope Nissan sells the shit out of the 2023 Z, I'm definitely getting one. Then maybe, just maybe, they can take all that dough to come out with the next gen GTR. 🤘🙏🙌
As a proud owner of an s85 e63 M6, I can say with complete assurance that there is no way the E60 M5 is beating a GTR unless its tuned and it'll be waaaaaaay at the top end.
Evos are too much underrated ❤️ they are so beautiful and fast ! They got amazing body kits that make them even more beautiful 😍 ! I wish I could buy one after getting my driver license 🙃
"dodge went insane a decade ago" - I think they went insane starting with the viper. Out of ALL the brands I've come to like for american cars, dodge has nailed it for me because I love my viper and it's the most obnoxious car i've ever had. It's just beautiful to see them putting hellcat motors in basically everything. If dodge was an oprah show, "YOU GET A HELLCAT ENGINE AND YOU GET A HELLCAT ENGINE, EVERYONE GETS HELLCAT ENGINES!". The Panamera is a sweet car, it's basically a modern day 928 with extra doors.
@@gerarduspoppel2831 I got it for a killer deal and got it back to as intended shape. It's been easily the most fun I've had behind the wheel of a sports car. Part of me would love a new one, but first gens are really special cars.
@@jj02mc27 Ehhhhh. Parts are getting hard to find and they can be an absolute PITA to work on. I suppose they are cheap but I don't know if I'd put them in the bargain faster than the gtr realm. Don't get me wrong, I love Porsches, and I've been a Porsche fanatic for a long time, but the price of entry usually doesn't match the cost of longterm maintenance lol.
Wait what? I don't think that all you said were true. All the cars that you mentioned were actually slower in every category. Well some of them were faster only than the 2009-10 model year GT-Rs. And you didn't mentioned anything about it. And yeah, in my opinion GT-R is the only car that can outrun supercars in every category with half of their's price tags. That's why it's freaking LEGENDARY!
After playing I don't know how many racing games...only thing I found out was an Evo is a beast. My records of 0-100 and 1/4 mile in NFS most wanted still stands till today. I don't own one but I'll be damned if I die before getting one.
162 mph tye world around me disappeared it was almost like rge world went silent and I actually felt my heartbeat. Greatest feeling ever it also scared the shit out of me in the best way!
Also considering its poor transmission, not many people like to do a launch control. I am still GTR fan and will still get one because I connect so many things with that car lol, I dont mind if it is slower than some cheaper cars.
I'll put my money on a V3 CTS-V that will outperform the GTR in all categories.. !! A side by side video on your end would be amazing!! Love the content always!
If you want to buy a cheap evo go here in PH... Theres no "car guys" here that puts turbo kn their cars... Yea.. My friend got sold a lancer evo 2014 for 300K-400K Php which is roughly 7-9KUSD
Was looking into buying a z06 but unfortunately that ls7 has one major flaw that they didn’t do enough research to find which is funny cause it doesn’t take a lot to find. The valve guides tend to fail if they haven’t already been upgraded when they fail the valve will just drop straight into the cylinder, I don’t need to explain much further you can only imagine how much damage that’s gonna do. Then you’ll spend thousands of dollars to fix it. If you wanna buy one look for one with upgraded valve guides. The will be taxed on for sure so you’re looking at around 42k+ for a pretty good example
I owned a 08 e60 m5 for 5yrs and it held up well for me. I did my regular maintenance as needed. So owning one is hit or miss. I know 2 ppl that owned one and they had more issues than me.
@@Amg_Trini very smart business move!, i was planning on giving my E63 a "G" power Tune, now im just saving up for a M8, or i might wait 3 years for price to decrease on that M5 CS...lol..
130mph (on the clock) driving in a possibly modified used 1987 Ford Sierra 2.0 GLSi while racing a 1993 MK5 Escort RS2000. 140mph as a passenger in Cavalier GSi, E36 325i and Vauxhall Calibra 2.0 16v with red top engine.
I wrapped ma head around the Subaru WRX cuz its all wheel drive and is suitable for the Canadian winter.... But the Evo looks promising for a tuner.... This is too much for my brain
But you can pick a used BMW 340 which has the same motor as a Supra(at least the new one) for about 40k and drop about 5 grand in upgrades and literally be faster that most of these cars on here!
I'm surprised I only saw 1 Honda guy in the comments (as of now) talking about the swaps. Not a Honda guy but getting waxed by an H22 swapped CRX (in 06) left a nasty taste in my mouth lol
I was in a friends car an Aussie Ford XD and he had a big block blown in it and we were doing 320km beside a ZZR 1100 back in the 90s and we only knew this because that’s what the speedo had on the bike.
Thank you for tanking up the prices for the evo I was saving for the evo 9 when I was still in high-school I already save 13k and now you just made the price even more higher fcking from 30k to 50k
Blame covid, not Ideal. I know, I bought 2 identical cars one year apart and I had to pay a bit more on the second one. Not saying what I have, they stole the first one.
A stock gtr isn't even as fast as you think. You guys are forgetting that it's the aftermarket parts that makes them fast. Only some cars have the potential to have more horses than a heavily modded gtr
It's kinda funny that non of these cars are faster than a premium GTR and that's the R 35 Nismo with acceleration of 0 to 62 ( 0 to 100 Kilometers ) under 2.9 Kilometers .Nissan GTR is practically the standard for Speed and reliability it can also easily be a daily driver .
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It is also a great fast Tokyo Cop Car. Even Gogo Yubari loves to drive that kind of car all the time.
I might own a GTR R35 someday when I save enough money. However my top of the line dream car besides a Nissan 350Z is the legendary Nissan Skyline GTR R34 preferably V-Spec.
The r34 is more expensive then a r35
Don't get offended but u won't own one. Cause u can't own a dream car if u don't have one. All u want is a jdm everybody will praise u about. If u want a dream car u shouldn't say I may instead u should say I will by working hard and saving
@@A_lame_shady shhhhhhh let people enjoy things
Buy my 350 lol
Bro 350’s are cheap as hell, you can get one tomorrow if you actually wanted one 😂
You guys are really helping me get a car after I get a driver’s license, it might be 3 years from now but thanks for that
Bruh, I know right. Ive said the exact words lol
@@justinbrown7882 damn really?! Nice to hear that
I'm saving money up and they helped me to narrow down what I want. Although I have a car already but I don't have my license but I will soon again be on the road. Good luck brudduh
So you 13? Cool if it its hi fellow 13
@@chuckiedee3705 yep, I don’t turn turn 14 till June so I’m stuck with being 13
This is something that not many people know but the e60 m5 can be a very reliable car if you buy one in good condition and address the issues before they happen. Meaning you will have to spend some money on reliability mods, most owners avoid this due to the cost. However, if you truly want an m5 and have the money you can make the car reliable, the truth is an e46 m3 will still be the better car lol.
However, if you are set on an m5 and have 30k, go for it.
True but that very rare person probably won’t be dissuaded by this video to buy their dream m5.
@@IdealMediaChannel Very true lol
Joelikescars...You must own a BMW mechanic shop trying to pull in new customers..After owning brand new Bmw's and audi's I will never buy on again ..Straight money pits after 100k.. Now I will only buy Lexus, infiniti, and dodge!!! Rather spend my money on aftermarket parts instead of silly repairs on plastic German parts they use
@@JT-bk1gp tell me you know nothing about motor vehicles other than anecdotes without telling me you know nothing about motor vehicles other than anecdotes
Actually I do my own maintenance on my cars but with bmw's and other euro cars you need special damn tools ..And obviously you haven't heard of the notorious vanos problems on these cars..My lexus ISF is fast as hell and I drive it like I stole it and no problems..Going on 150k miles and no problems..Can't say the same for a bimmer and that's why I made the switch to lexus!!! Can't beat the reliability of a Toyota baby!!!!
Squid: BMW's that are faster than the gtr
Everybody: but will it start tho!!!
It'll start, then the heater dies, and the dash lights stop working, the wiring harness then needs replacing, water pump fails, rear shock disconnects and some random sensor trips and puts the car in limp mode. That's just on the 2 mile drive to the drag strip.
😂😂😂
Admittedly a GTR fan but 2012 and later are monsters for the value
During a medical emergency I redlined my Scion Tc Gen2 on a straight highway, it's top speed was 150, it sounded like I was driving a machine-gun with it bouncing off the rec limiter every time I had the slightest decline
Does it still run well?
@@cashisking4691 hell yeah! Even sold it to someone for 10k! With 106k km on it, they loved how smooth it shifted and its responsive handling and acceleration, everyone whos driven it loves it!
Scion Tc gen1 and gen 2 are both known for being cars that can be pushed far beyond their factory limits, without expensive or time consuming upgrades, and if taken care of, will outlast the owner's children easily (its a toyota after all)
@@mekalekahighmekahinyo interior is cheap but it's a great car, and will out last you
I really like it when a GT-R is a standard for comparing other cars .....Nissan!! You have made yourself proud
Boy, that Squidd knows how to dig deep for the right stuff. Thanks
6:03 - I literally fast forwarded as soon as I understood it was the Mustang Mach-E.
Lol
Same
Same lol
Yeah he said its faster 0-60 than the R35. Straight talking out of his ass.
The way he said Mech Area a sounded like Ocarina and immediately wanted to play Zelda lmfaooo
That Mach-E is as much of a Mustang as the new Supra is actually a Supra.
YEAH, I SAID IT! FIGHT ME!!🤣
😅😅
I really hope Nissan sells the shit out of the 2023 Z, I'm definitely getting one. Then maybe, just maybe, they can take all that dough to come out with the next gen GTR. 🤘🙏🙌
08 evo's are going for $24,000 used. Its insane😅
Gonna start going for a lot more than that soon.
I sold my 06 evo mr for 20k back in 2011, could of driven it till now and still get that price today.
06 Evo weren’t never created in 07
You said used like their being made new 😅
@@ramiahwhitney9 reread your sentence
As a proud owner of an s85 e63 M6, I can say with complete assurance that there is no way the E60 M5 is beating a GTR unless its tuned and it'll be waaaaaaay at the top end.
I would still more like to have E60 than gtr just because of the design
BMW M5 is way faster than the GTR SKYLINE to the repair shop!!!! 😆 🤣 😂
The GT-R and the Subaru WRX STI Hawkeye is my ultimate dream car
Evos are too much underrated ❤️ they are so beautiful and fast ! They got amazing body kits that make them even more beautiful 😍 ! I wish I could buy one after getting my driver license 🙃
Start saving up, their prices are going up!
@@IdealMediaChannel yeah thats what put me off the evo. Gonna get an rs3 instead
I remember when the Evo hit American shores. It wasn't underrated then lol. Evos and SRT-4s had the V8 boys shakin. I really miss that era
Honestly... but its sooooo much money to work on a 4g63😭😭 but still can be a great motor
@@sambamsandman3679 fr though. Love the car and engine just not worth it anymore imo. Rs3 downpipe and tune makes 540hp
Welp I'd still take that gtr.
My dream car ❤️
"dodge went insane a decade ago" - I think they went insane starting with the viper. Out of ALL the brands I've come to like for american cars, dodge has nailed it for me because I love my viper and it's the most obnoxious car i've ever had. It's just beautiful to see them putting hellcat motors in basically everything. If dodge was an oprah show, "YOU GET A HELLCAT ENGINE AND YOU GET A HELLCAT ENGINE, EVERYONE GETS HELLCAT ENGINES!". The Panamera is a sweet car, it's basically a modern day 928 with extra doors.
the Viper really is a Frankenstein monster!!
@@gerarduspoppel2831 I got it for a killer deal and got it back to as intended shape. It's been easily the most fun I've had behind the wheel of a sports car. Part of me would love a new one, but first gens are really special cars.
The 928's also a good bargain if you can actually find one for sale
@@jj02mc27 Ehhhhh. Parts are getting hard to find and they can be an absolute PITA to work on. I suppose they are cheap but I don't know if I'd put them in the bargain faster than the gtr realm. Don't get me wrong, I love Porsches, and I've been a Porsche fanatic for a long time, but the price of entry usually doesn't match the cost of longterm maintenance lol.
@@koihoshi l0000
Wait what? I don't think that all you said were true. All the cars that you mentioned were actually slower in every category. Well some of them were faster only than the 2009-10 model year GT-Rs. And you didn't mentioned anything about it. And yeah, in my opinion GT-R is the only car that can outrun supercars in every category with half of their's price tags. That's why it's freaking LEGENDARY!
GTRs would smoke all these on track and drag
Even in playstation
With a lil bit of haggling and a good deal, an M550i might be the silver bullet here
Facts. I believe with just a ecu tune, it’s as fast or faster than a rs6 and lambo urus
Amazing video as always!Love From Sri Lnka!
After playing I don't know how many racing games...only thing I found out was an Evo is a beast. My records of 0-100 and 1/4 mile in NFS most wanted still stands till today.
I don't own one but I'll be damned if I die before getting one.
Some i love EVO ....and also i have max tuned it in NFS most wanted good handling than a lambo .....i don't own one but i will find it one day
NFS most wanted is not the best game to test a car's performance but yeah it is a beast
One of the best engines in the world is the Cadillac black wing engine
CTS-V’s are underrated
Who underrates them?
A lot of mustang and challenger boys😂
162 mph tye world around me disappeared it was almost like rge world went silent and I actually felt my heartbeat. Greatest feeling ever it also scared the shit out of me in the best way!
What were you driving? I got my '04 Track Edition G35 up to 155 mph. Greatest feeling ever!
6:53 as soon as you reach the mustang part, you need to click on this immediately.
The most speed i had was 260km/h on German Highways with a Mercedes E220 Sport Coupe.
thr gtr hits 0-60 in 2.7 seconds. completes the nurburgring in 6,15 minutes. that's faster than anything else in the list lol
Pretty sure the first GT-R non-special edition did a 7:20 on the ring, and did 60mph in 2.9.
@@IdealMediaChannel that's true
Also considering its poor transmission, not many people like to do a launch control. I am still GTR fan and will still get one because I connect so many things with that car lol, I dont mind if it is slower than some cheaper cars.
I've done 135 in my 2005 accord V6 coupe
i have also gone 135 in my 2007 honda accord
E46 M3 + $5,000 in repairs + big turbo =R35 GT-R killer
No. Standard first gen R35 stock > Heavily tuned E46 M3 + $5,000 in repairs + big turbos.
Period.
I topped out at 155 in my 05 Grand Prix GXP 😁
I ran my 09 G8 GT up to 170 & it was still pulling; The Black Hawk cold air induction makes a world of difference.
I'll put my money on a V3 CTS-V that will outperform the GTR in all categories.. !! A side by side video on your end would be amazing!!
Love the content always!
That Porsche Panamera is cute and beautiful to my eyes, especially with its capabilities, its a lovely looking car
its a cool idea to find cars to beat Godzilla but it wasn't really ever about straight line speed
Great video, Tanks for sharing. 👍
Just came back from a one year break. So much has changed!!
what do you mean?
I mean a break from the channel
But now I am back and better than ever
One car that can beat GT-R is in EU Audi RS6 C7 it's faster , practical and now cheap ,early 2012 models is going around 30 000$
155mph in my old ls430.... it was like floating on a cloud 😎
If you want to buy a cheap evo go here in PH... Theres no "car guys" here that puts turbo kn their cars... Yea.. My friend got sold a lancer evo 2014 for 300K-400K Php which is roughly 7-9KUSD
yooo what part of Philippines do you live in? I'm having hard time finding an Evo 9 here in Mindanao 😭😭
@@edriancosio6264 mindanao... If I'm correct my friend is from maguindanao
sup man love the vids, keep it going.
The Porsche Panamera is beautiful to me and the cts v
142 mph on a Nissan 350z racing with some bikes after work at 4am , car totally stock back then 😂 great video 💯👌
Why do people say the Panamera is ugly, I think it actually looks nice
I really almost fast forwarded till you said wait don't fast forward!! Lol
I hit 140kph in my dad's '91 saab 900 SE, no turbo dough
So you basically went the speed of everyone else on the freeway lol.
Was looking into buying a z06 but unfortunately that ls7 has one major flaw that they didn’t do enough research to find which is funny cause it doesn’t take a lot to find. The valve guides tend to fail if they haven’t already been upgraded when they fail the valve will just drop straight into the cylinder, I don’t need to explain much further you can only imagine how much damage that’s gonna do. Then you’ll spend thousands of dollars to fix it. If you wanna buy one look for one with upgraded valve guides. The will be taxed on for sure so you’re looking at around 42k+ for a pretty good example
Sadly it is depend on the country like for camaro zl1 in some country it will cost like 130k used
It's not faster than the R35, but the cobalt SS was faster around the ring than the R34 GT-R.
The c6 rs6 is underrated. It's a v10, quattro, family wagon!!
I love this show, where have yall been all my life
7:00 bruh thats my dream car
Brand new 2022 Corvette Stingray is $62K, cheaper than used GTR
@ Ideal Cars You forgot to say "Keep living the Ideal lifestyle."
Buy a 8v Audi A3 with the 2.0t and mod that to run 10’s for way less than a gtr
Closing in on a million subs congrats fam♥️
12 year olds:NOOOOOOO HOW NOOOOO
XD
I owned a 08 e60 m5 for 5yrs and it held up well for me. I did my regular maintenance as needed. So owning one is hit or miss. I know 2 ppl that owned one and they had more issues than me.
Owned a E63 M6, loved💜 that car until the Transmission went out...😢
@@rarashamash1216 I was able to get a extended warranty so I’m good.
@@Amg_Trini very smart business move!, i was planning on giving my E63 a "G" power Tune, now im just saving up for a M8, or i might wait 3 years for price to decrease on that M5 CS...lol..
130mph (on the clock) driving in a possibly modified used 1987 Ford Sierra 2.0 GLSi while racing a 1993 MK5 Escort RS2000.
140mph as a passenger in Cavalier GSi, E36 325i and Vauxhall Calibra 2.0 16v with red top engine.
All these cars you mentioned are slower than stock GTR, they're faster when Worked on not when they're stock
Wrong but good effort…
I went over 600 mph once....... In gran turismo ofcource😅😅
On my street bike 160 mph in a car 140 to 150 that fast so much fun
The goblin is faster too if youre gonna talk about like street legal go karts
I wrapped ma head around the Subaru WRX cuz its all wheel drive and is suitable for the Canadian winter.... But the Evo looks promising for a tuner.... This is too much for my brain
Yeah the WRX is an option I'm just sour about them since the 2023 io so awful.
Fastest I've ever legally driven a street legal car on the road is 221mph in a Ruf CTR.
next do a video on 10cheap cars faster than a koenigsegg
Lmao
can we get a updated budget drift cars video
I like your video and think you are an exceptional presenter .... quick fact GT- R , 0-60 in 2.9 sec .. stock std ..
2008 year model gtr goes 0-60 mph in 3.6 sec. Gtr r35-s which cross the 3 second mark are from 2018 and above and they cost 100k+
In Sweden you can get a GTR for around 40k
Yet another reason I wanna move to Sweden.
GTR it's not just a car, its a passion
Fastest I've ever gone ?
193 mph
05 Hayabusa
I was on a public bus that went about 30 one time. So... Back of guys. I've gone pretty fast.
Love the channel keep up the nice work
The fastest I’ve ever been driven is 190 in my brothers RS7 Audi on the Pensacola Interstate Bridge!!! Pretty exhilarating!!!
in case if no one understood what he said when he coughed he said nissan lol
That was a deep cut on us service members but so true lol
U should do a video on Toyota chasers I’m really interested in those cars
120 MPH/200 KPH legally cuz German Autobahn 😎
Lord knows I still want a 2nd gen CTS-V. Such a good looking and fast AF car
how about A90 Supra (GR Supra)...? I know R35 was better at stock form than stock A90 but in tune form can A90 beat a R35...?
It wont exactly be cheap. I mean a new Supra + modifications and you're spending GT-R money.
But you can pick a used BMW 340 which has the same motor as a Supra(at least the new one) for about 40k and drop about 5 grand in upgrades and literally be faster that most of these cars on here!
Srt10 Dodge Viper , Audi S5 , AMG 63 And maybe not a lot less cheaper but a Porsche Cayman R ?!?!?
Hello..... What do you think about the honda civic coupe EX 1998 project as a daily car?? Is it good or do you have any other recommendations??
im still gonna get that M5
The fastest I’ve been is with my own diesel powered Audi A4 . 250 km/h or 155 mph on the German Highway
B: whooo... what car is that? really fast... A: thats hellcat..
B: nahh...
I'm surprised I only saw 1 Honda guy in the comments (as of now) talking about the swaps. Not a Honda guy but getting waxed by an H22 swapped CRX (in 06) left a nasty taste in my mouth lol
H22 swaps are slept on. They were legendary when I was a dirty little street racer.
You must be finding cars with a Salvage or Rebuilt Title for those prices.
I was in a friends car an Aussie Ford XD and he had a big block blown in it and we were doing 320km beside a ZZR 1100 back in the 90s and we only knew this because that’s what the speedo had on the bike.
You do no your talking shit right
Quicker is different than faster. Faster implies top speed, quicker is quarter mile times, eighth mile etc.
I love my 2010 premium had some fun runs. I never ran an Ariel or a Ev stang .I beat all the rest .
Evos definitely if you can find one that's cheap so that you can tune it later on
168.3 MPH in my tuned Focus RS at a Mojave closed course event in 2016.
Cadillac ATSV the Rwd GTR selling in the 40k range right now and makes makes more power mod for mod
170ish with a tail wind in an Evo VIII. Bulletproof firewall saved my life at the same time it almost killed me…
Thank you for tanking up the prices for the evo I was saving for the evo 9 when I was still in high-school I already save 13k and now you just made the price even more higher fcking from 30k to 50k
Blame covid, not Ideal. I know, I bought 2 identical cars one year apart and I had to pay a bit more on the second one.
Not saying what I have, they stole the first one.
A stock gtr isn't even as fast as you think. You guys are forgetting that it's the aftermarket parts that makes them fast. Only some cars have the potential to have more horses than a heavily modded gtr
I did 170 something in my Chrysler 300 srt8 after about 120 all the pot holes and tiny bumps get really scary
It's kinda funny that non of these cars are faster than a premium GTR and that's the R 35 Nismo with acceleration of 0 to 62 ( 0 to 100 Kilometers ) under 2.9 Kilometers .Nissan GTR is practically the standard for Speed and reliability it can also easily be a daily driver .
I saw a used CTS-V for $4k with only 180k miles on it but didn’t buy it and now hate myself