Is the Pace 500.3 or Level.2 the Best Torque Sensor E-Bike?
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2023
- The Pace 500.3 versus level.2 comparison both ebikes have torque sensors
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Pace500.3 2nd generation
Pace or level 2
level.2
Pace 500.3
Love the way that Aventon is cleaning up their act especially with the integration of the battery case to the frame. Very clean!
They truly go the extra mile. :)
The Level 2 has that straighter mountain bike like handlebar. Rode a hybrid mountain bike with handlebars like that for years. Until I got tired of tennis elbow on one side and numb hands after long rides. The slightly hunched over posture also affected my neck to a mild degree, especially on long rides. Switched to a different bike with slightly different handlebars and those problems resolved. So when I looked at the Level 2 vs. the Pace 500.3, it was the handlebars and more erect posture that decided it for me. Bought the Pace.
I'm with you on that one.:)
Thanks for taking the time to comment.:):):)
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I was debating the same but liked the zoom shocks on the level 2 plus the fenders and the rack. So, I got the level 2 and upgraded the handle bar to pace’s adjustable curved back one. Looking forward to riding it in about 3 weeks.
Perhaps a little known fact but they handlebars between the pace and the level 2 are interchangeable. My dealer made to change for a slight charge has made a tremendous difference on my back and neck issues
I was leaning to get the Level 2 and then get the 500.3 handlebars and stem installed for the riding position. However I did not like the colors. But your side by side helped me feel at ease to get the 500.3 instead even though it will cost me more to buy the rack and fenders. I just like the looks better on the 500.3. I think the battery looks easier to remove. I realized I don't need the front suspension for my first E-Bike and with a slightly lighter weight 500.3 will probably be a better bike. Thanks.
That's great. I'm glad the video helped make your decision easier.
You're going to have a blast and will probably start a collection, lol
Thanks for sharing.
Very informative and helpful video! Thank you!
I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for taking the time to comment
Hey Mike, 2 good looking bikes thanks for the detailed comparison well done as usual👍👍
Thanks a bunch for the feedback and watching:):):) they really are great bikes.
I just bought my wife the Level 2 because of the current promotion. It was only $100 more than than the Pace and it had a free battery. I also liked the Himalayan color for my wife.
She's going to love it. Thanks for sharing :)
That Himalayan colour is beyond gorgeous. I watched a bike shop rep.try to sell it to a couple who had a bike at home & would be sharing the new bike as well. Even though it was his wife's bike really, he was all "Do I look like a pink bike guy?" Laughing. I wanted to say You should be. It is really your wife's bike & it is an absolutely gorgeous pink!". This from a girl who's not "a pink bike girl ". Laughing. Loudly.
Congratulations on your purchase & your price. You scored with an extra battery & fenders and rack - unlike the 500.3.
Enjoy!
I went with the level.2. So far I like it. Only thing is throttle is slightly delayed, and considering only 60nm of torque, very steep hills can still take a while to get over, but still a lot easier. Great comparison! Thanks :)
Thanks for sharing and feedback .:):) 🙂
Nice informative video..both bikes look great I went with the Pace the upright seating portion I might change the handle bars..
Nice to have the option
Hey Mike - I watched one of your videos on the Aventure and now this one. Torn between the Aventure and the Pace - just wondering how much of an upright position the Aventure has compared to the Pace? Or is the Aventure more like the Level 2 from a riding standpoint?
I would say the level.2 you're definitely in more of a forward posture.
The pace 500.3 and Aventure are more upright. If I had a guest maybe the 500 is the most upright but you can always get a adjustable stem for the Aventure
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Mike do you have a preference between the step-through vs. the step-over? I recall one of your first videos talking about the aventure and you had eluded to the ease in mounting your wife's step-through and you sort of hinted that you regretted not buying that format when buying your aventure. At 65 I'm getting ready to make the plunge into the ebike world and will be going with an Aventon....I don't like the color options available on the step-through models and love the color choices on the step-overs (go figure). Just wondered your feelings on this. Thx. -Steve-
I totally agree on the color that always seems to happen but at this point I probably would go with a step through only because It's much harder getting your leg over the end of the bike when you use a bike bag or anything on the back rack. Feel free to use one of my affiliate links if you like:):)
Rode both these and I find the ergonomics of the Pace to be much better. Although it was a smoother ride on that Level 2. Another difference was the Pace 3 was quicker off the line but the Level 2 seemed a bit quieter. The Pace 3 also seemed lot lighter too.
Thanks for sharing
I have a older pace medium 500. Perfect torque and pedal sensor. Only complaint Is display module can not be seen in the sunlite(to dim) Just remember if you do not choose the pace 500? You better have physical strength to lift on a bike carrier. overall very well engineered bike.
Its definitely make a quality bikeand have been around long enough to earn a good repetition.
Ive been looking at the level.2 for a while and almost bought yesterday. I saw someone mention the pace 500.3. Which one would ride like a road bike? Seems I might should look a little more at the Pace 500.3. I like the turn signal functionality and wish the level 2 had that.
I have a video of the Pace 500.3 as well. The peace is more of a upright position. :)
The swept back handle bar on the Pace 500.3 has more adjustable options to find the better fit than the Level.2. I found that to be the deciding factor as I like the more up right riding position for cursing.
Definitely more of a casual riding experience. Thanks for the feedback. :):)
I find that I really do not need to be in an upright position for cursing...it just comes natural in nearly any position !😁
@@Steveoreno Thanks for sharing:)
at 66, I am leaning towards the Pace. Do the shocks on the level 2 make that much of a difference if riding on paved trails? I found this review very helpful, thank you from San Antonio!
I would say not much on street or paved trails... Sidewalks and bumpier roads maybe would notice more however a suspension seat post is a game changer.
I have the Level 2 I use the front shock on all the bad roads that seem to have cracks every two feet while riding. It does make a huge difference in the shock to the wrists when hitting the bumps. Maine roads kinda suck ..but I do love the bike .
@@crystalrain9016 You can even purchase a suspension stem.
With the exception of The front suspension. The biggest difference is you'll be leaning forward on the level.2 versus sitting more upright on the pace models because they're more of a cruiser style handlebars that are adjustable.
The guy at the bike store told me the Pace doesn't have front shocks because as a cruiser bike with a more upright riding style 80% of your weight is on the seat, where with the Level being more of a "hybrid" style and leaning more forward there is more weight on the front end. Also why it has a smaller seat and straighter handlebars etc. Guess it makes sense....
I couldn't figure the difference. Not sure I still know there is enough difference to call them different models. By the time you get to racks and fenders of the Pace you are at or beyond the price of the level
You're definitely in more of a leaning forward position on the level.2 besides some of the other specs I mentioned in the video they are two different looking bikes.
I want to go on bicycle trips around city with friends or just stroll in the park. What do you suggest?
Just get out there and do it 😀
I know everyone has different preferences. Which of the two do you personally prefer and why?
The Pace 500.3 because I like the cruiseing posture.
Where is the torques sensor actually located on the Level 2? Bottom bracket? Rear drop out? The hub itself?
Behind the crank shaft
I went with Level 2 because of front suspension. Way too many potholes to navigate in my native shithole of Chicago. So far, I'm very happy.
Did you get a suspension seat post as well?
@@mikerochester Aventon just removed the $120 Aventon Suspension Seatpost from their website. Previously, it was "out of stock". It could be, they ran out because of overwhelming demand due to enthusiastic user reviews.
In this situation, I ordered cheaper $80 Aventon Glide Seatpost. Unfortunately, it has not yet shipped. I like the bike therefore I'm not gonna complain. Shortages happen.
That said, the basic seat on Level 2 seems pretty comfy so far, no complaints either.
@eighthelement That's great. Makes the ride so much more comfortable. Thanks for sharing:):)
@@mikerochesterUpdate: Aventon Glide Seatpost has shipped and is to arrive Saturday. I will review it after I have a chance to try it.
@eighthelement That's great. Thanks for sharing.
Sir, the Level 2 and Pace500V2 are two different bikes, correct?
Does the Pace 500 v2 only have a cadence sensor, where the Pace 500.3 and Level 2 have torque sensors?
The 2 bikes In this video are from Aventon and both have torque sensors.
The Pace 500.3
And
Level 2
Thanks Mike. I was originally looking at the Aventon Pace 500 V2 & from your video I realized that that model was a cadence sensor..You really helped me with this video. I was upgrading from a Hyper 700c that I am running into the ground (ride all year round including Canadian winters - destinations, laps around park/neighbourhoods for exercise &. errands including all.grocery shopping so ie. This is my car). From my 700c I knew I needed a sensor that knew I was & wanted to pedal hard and adjusted for that - ie. torque sensor. I could honestly care less about a throttle and I did about five test runs, many with throttles and I forgot to test them. Including the one on the bike I purchased, laughing.
I had gone into the shop thinking I was going to buy the Gazelle Medeo.I wanted that one very badly. Also tried one of the newest NCMs. Many test runs, was in the shop for hours as this is a can't make a mistake kind of purchase..
But unfortunately the fit was so off on the Gazelle for me & the NCM was one size & didn't feel big enough somehow (but what a fantastic bike) - my 700 c is huge. I also looked at the Level 2.
The minute I got on the Pace.500.3 I just knew instantly. Years ago I took almost.two.months of various test drives to buy my Specialized Roll, same feeling of "that's it". I redid the test run on the Gazelle twice after that, including with my own seat. Because I wanted to work for me. It was better but still "off' for me.
Because of you I knew everything I needed to know. Aventon names some of their bikes so similar (ie..Pace V2, .3 & Level.2) even the bike shop says it is hard to keep in their heads, and one of the reps told someone the 500.3 was a cadence sensor by accident.
So I appreciate you & your review.
And for anyone reading, please do test runs - you can think "this is my bike 💯" and the fit is awful.These are major purchases, even if one is well-off.
@@lita4458 thanks so much for the compliments and I'm glad my video helped you select your next e-bike. :) keep us posted how you enjoy it and thanks for taking the time to comment
Can I switch the handle bars from a pace to a level 2 ?
Not quite sure that would work maybe check with Aventon support
Which style is easier on arthritic knees?
Both have torque sensors. The Pace 500.2 has a cadence sensor. Check out my video.
According to Aventon's website, the weight on the Level.2 is 62 lbs, not 53 lbs as Mike erroneously states in the video. The Pace 500.3 is 52 lbs. That's a big difference in weight to consider if you are a small adult struggling to get the bike inside a van or on a bike rack. I like that you can remove the battery to slightly reduce the weight though. Thank you for the comparison.
Thanks for sharing. I double checked and it still shows 52lbs On the Aventon website under specs.
@@mikerochester The specs say the Step-Through Level 2 is 62 lbs, not 52 lbs
Just got a Level.2 step thru for my wife. We like the fit and it looks great. Disappointed that PAS level 1 provides too much power... really difficult to ride slowly or match speed with my Rad City. This is a software issue and should be adjustable by the user! And even worse, if you want to ride slowly in PAS 0, the throttle doesn't work. Power onset seems somewhat jerky and stepped rather than smooth. We're hoping it might get a little better with break-in. Motor is also a bit more noisy than I'd like but that may be typical for geared hub motors.
I'm surprised you're finding that with a torque sensor on PAS one had you reached out to the Aventons tech support?
@@mikerochester So far just a chat. Hoping to get access to buried settings.... They must be there.
@@user-yt7gy6qd6e Thanks for sharing
I tried both yesterday and agree wholeheartedly. The Pace gives a nice gentle level of assistance whereas the Level felt like I was being shoved forwards. I too found the Level louder than the Pace. I have chosen the Pace, even though after adding fenders the price is the same. It’s about feel, and the Pace was just better for me.
Unfortunately a hub motor with torque sensing of any kind will never compete with a proper middrive. Good for budget riders though who don't need that sharp response a bafang, bosch and Shimano will give.
Definitely budget friendly, Thanks for watching. :)
Big difference in battery ah with both having a torque sensor, surprised the mileage is the same!??
Thanks for sharing
Mostly because the Level 2 is 11#'s heavier? Just my guess.. Both are nice looking bikes, hard to choose!
You went through all that, and no opinion?
Probably why you have less than 2K subs. Be Bold there young one.
I'm just trying to show the facts of these two bikes side by side.
I like both of these bikes.
It's your opinion that will matter.
And thanks I'm pleased to even have close to 2,000 subscribers:)