Love how Martin stayed quiet mostly here and hid behind Stacey, if that was someone like Kush instead of Jack Martin would have been threatening/attacking him as soon as he walked through the door
Been on his holidays for about 3 years. I can't believe after the gangster stuff with the Mitchell's he just reverted back to the fruit and veg selling, leopard print fannypack wearing wuss he was before he got involved with them. What a waste of a character!
@@stevedavidson5038 he's always on holiday when faced with real hardmen, looking at the floor and muttering under his breath. This isn't his worst showing in this situation.
Go on Stace! I wanted to slap Martin. He's been a real knob. Between his treatment of Lily, to Kat. Happy he finally came around to support and stand up to Jack. About time. I'd love to see Ryan come back though
Seriously, Jack is going to have a stroke if he doesn't learn to calm down.....he used to be the calm one in that family and now he always seems to be teetering on the edge.
@@abdurahim1110 Battle of the titans. Cain has the best right hand in soapland and would definitely do some damage to Grant but Grant would outclass Cain in every other regard.
Martin has always been a coward like that, always losing his temper and attacking nice guys/weaker guys than him yet always stays quiet when it’s someone like jack or Phil, in fact this reminded me of when he walked in on Grant and Belinda and started muttering to the women to get him out 😂
Has Jack ever had anger management or anything? The guy is never happy and constantly raging in like every scene he's in. His character has been pointless for ages now...
It's funny how Martin barley says a word here until Jack actually speaks to him I do like Martin but it's obvious that the writers have him act as tough around hard characters like Jack if this was Max then Martin would have no problem in having his say here
Think it has more to do with the fact that Jack is a copper. Not saying he wouldn’t demolish Martin or anyone else in the square in seconds but his time in the force have made people intimidated by him since he could just arrest them for assault if he wanted to.
@@footballfanatic3481 Or maybe you just can’t handle facts mate. As for Martin not getting mouthy with Jack, he completely understands his frustration since he’s a dad himself.
@@H.K.5 I think that's a cop out (pardon the pun LOL). When he's kicking off at the likes of Kush constantly he's acting like he can't control his temper but he manages just fine here. I bet if it was Kush's son or someone like that then he'd have stormed round to their house kicking off as soon as he found out his kid had knocked up his 12yo daughter.
@H.K 😂.......... Why would Jack start a confrontation and have Martin arrested if he bit back? 😂 Jack's not like that lmfao for someone who claims they don't like Martin you definitely make some absurd excuses for him 🙃.....
Omg is stacey off her meds or something saying they were experimenting and they got unlucky, wot a stupid thing to say, it's shocking to think that Stacey even thinks it's ok for lily to be " experimenting" at the age of 12
Also it seemed like too me that Martin was always scared of Mick Carter for some reason as well lol, just like he definitely is with Phil, since Phil dropped him a good few years back now, and you can kind of tell that he's wary of Jack, because the way he definitely acts when he's around him.
@Nafel Iqbal I really wished that happened but Martin was keeping his mouth shut because he got decked by a 60 year old phil and got backhanded by Stuart
I think Sam should take Ricky Jr to Germany with her and Ricky Sr if he doesn't want to be involved with the baby. Jack and Jr when he is old enough can pay child support if Lily decides to keep the baby. Lily and Ricky Jr both made the choice to have sex and made the baby. If Lily gets a choice of if she wants to keep it or not- why doesn't Ricky JR? just because Lily makes a descision? Her body her choice- but Ricky should get a choice too if he wants to stay or walk away. Lily's choice should she choose to keep it shouldn't deny Ricky Jr of that same choice. he should be able to Pay child support but have no involvement. Sam take him to Germany
What I don't like about this story line is that the fact Stacey and Martin are letting a CHILD decide what to do with her body. She is under the age of 16 and therefore the parents responsibility... if Lily was my daughter I would make her get an abortion then report the lad who did it to the police.
@@Tool-Deftonesfan101 You've got me on a roll now! Hehe... Also... under aged sex if a girl is underage... she does not have the ABILITY to give consent whether she wants it or not... it doesn't matter whether the fella is under age as well or over the age of 18... in the eyes of the law it's rape.
You can't force a person to have an abortion. You can make them leave your home, but you can't force that on another person, your child or not. And yes, i have a child.
@@bubblezzxxd15 a child is a child and is not legally capable of making their own decisions until they are 18 until that age all responsibilities lie with the parent. Just like a child under the age of 16 can not legally consent to having sex. Rules are there for a reason x
@@JoshuaDillon03 Only one answer to that pal, scroll on by posts that annoy you. You do not pay my internet bill so I can mention Phil any time I like. As Frank Butcher used to say "put that in your pipe and smoke it my old son".
@@meenajutla He has been rude before but then apologised but being polite again never seems to last. I used to like Joshua but any liking or accolades I have I can take back like when Phil (dare I mention him again) took back any thing he did for Dan Sullivan when he found Dan was a grass over the car lot scam.
Soaps need to back down to 3 days a week. These deadlines are excessive and that's why the quality has declined since the 90s, we get shows copying each other's ideas, characters going around in circles and episodes that are a chore to sit through.
@@tomhiggins6542 That's your opinion. I disagree. And these topics are happening every day in real life. So, what exactly is the problem with making people aware that this is becoming epidemic? There is none. Just another thing to bitch about.
@@lukethomasdillon3762 I would like to see Jack in a full on fight with someone like Sean Slater. I would go for Jack but it would not be easy as Sean is skilled. Jack would deffo whip Ravi seeing as they have toned Ravi down.
Maybe the show is finally realising how Phil's got so old now & they are wasting so much of Jack's good years so are utilising him more. It would be about time.
@@NoirFan84 They haven’t realised it, most people are still scared of Phil. Someone like Keanu shouldn’t be afraid of Phil at all but he is for some reason.
@@NoirFan84 Thing is I’m sure Jack is like 50+ so they’ve already wasted him I guess. Although Jack does keep himself in shape unlike Phil. All the hard men/bad boys have been awful in like the last 15 years. Vincent when he first arrived had promise and turned out to be shit. Carl, Derek etc. just bad
You can’t blame Jack, nor can you blame Stacey, both make very good points.
You would feel the same if it was your daughter or your son.
Love how Martin stayed quiet mostly here and hid behind Stacey, if that was someone like Kush instead of Jack Martin would have been threatening/attacking him as soon as he walked through the door
Team Stacey. Can't stand Jack these days shouting and ranting
Unlike Cain who's always happy go lucky and up for laugh. At least doesn't use siblings affairs as his excuse to kick off.
Too right. Stacey’s in a league of her own.
I hate jack branning so much he is so mean to people and kids telling everyone what to do all the time
@@jamiekinsman7610 kids were people the last time I checked.
where is hardman martin now
Been on his holidays for about 3 years. I can't believe after the gangster stuff with the Mitchell's he just reverted back to the fruit and veg selling, leopard print fannypack wearing wuss he was before he got involved with them. What a waste of a character!
@@stevedavidson5038
It’s funny how Martin goes quiet when Jack kicks off.
@@qasimhussain1678 Yeah, it's happened a good few times now for it to be a coincidence. Martin's been a bit of a joke recently.
@@stevedavidson5038
How do you think Martin would do against Jack in a fight and what soap fights do you want to see?
@@stevedavidson5038 he's always on holiday when faced with real hardmen, looking at the floor and muttering under his breath. This isn't his worst showing in this situation.
“He wears Harry Potter pyjamas!” 🤣 Oh well he won’t be getting anyone else pregnant now.
At least his birthdays will be easy to buy for.
@@tomhiggins6542 so long as he keeps his wand away.
He’s obviously been using his wand for something else
@@stemple11100 ayo 😂😂
Ricky comes home .
Jack is standing there, with a book "Ricky, Turn to page 394'
Go on Stace! I wanted to slap Martin. He's been a real knob. Between his treatment of Lily, to Kat. Happy he finally came around to support and stand up to Jack. About time. I'd love to see Ryan come back though
Seriously, Jack is going to have a stroke if he doesn't learn to calm down.....he used to be the calm one in that family and now he always seems to be teetering on the edge.
Funny how Martin barely speaks here but having said that fair play to Stacey as Jack was definitely out of order here
That's because Martin is a psychopath
How is he out of order? For calling it out as the disaster waiting to happen that it is?
Martin only speaking when spoken too love that 😂
Who knew Ricky wore Harry Potter nightware at 12!
I wear Harry Potter nightmare at 20, what’s your point? 😂
He still wears harry potter pyjamas on of the best lines ever
Jack is giving Cain Dingle a run for his money as the happiest character in soapland.
Thats what i thought. Although tbf Cains probably to miserable even to get in EE, he makes Happy Meals cry.
What makes this funny is that his actor (Scott Maslen) is such a jokester on set
@@abdurahim1110 Battle of the titans. Cain has the best right hand in soapland and would definitely do some damage to Grant but Grant would outclass Cain in every other regard.
@@stevedavidson5038 I think Grant would take Cain pretty easily if they fought in their primes tbh. Cain would probably beat him nowadays though.
@@H.K.5just wouldn’t though he couldn’t even get past Al and he looked absolutely pathetic in that fight and you think he can beat Grant Ahahahh.
I can't wait to see Stacey vs Sam Mitchell
Thats never gonna happen
Am I the only one who thinks Martin sounds like a older Ricky?
Give Martin a pint and some chips and he takes a swing at Jack
This baby will be half Branning/Slater/Mitchell. Christmas is gonna be exciting!
One Lucky Child
Jack of all trades.
Martin was telling Lily what to do and was bossing her around until Jack came round and he went so quiet until Jack asked him to speak.
Martin has always been a coward like that, always losing his temper and attacking nice guys/weaker guys than him yet always stays quiet when it’s someone like jack or Phil, in fact this reminded me of when he walked in on Grant and Belinda and started muttering to the women to get him out 😂
@@stemple11100exactly mate he’s all loud and acts hard when he knows it’s people he can’t beat but when it’s some like Jack or Phil he goes all quiet.
Has Jack ever had anger management or anything? The guy is never happy and constantly raging in like every scene he's in. His character has been pointless for ages now...
Has keanu gone again
Go on stace!!!
It's funny how Martin barley says a word here until Jack actually speaks to him I do like Martin but it's obvious that the writers have him act as tough around hard characters like Jack if this was Max then Martin would have no problem in having his say here
Think it has more to do with the fact that Jack is a copper. Not saying he wouldn’t demolish Martin or anyone else in the square in seconds but his time in the force have made people intimidated by him since he could just arrest them for assault if he wanted to.
@H.K Pretty sure you're taking the piss there 😂
@@footballfanatic3481 Or maybe you just can’t handle facts mate. As for Martin not getting mouthy with Jack, he completely understands his frustration since he’s a dad himself.
@@H.K.5 I think that's a cop out (pardon the pun LOL). When he's kicking off at the likes of Kush constantly he's acting like he can't control his temper but he manages just fine here. I bet if it was Kush's son or someone like that then he'd have stormed round to their house kicking off as soon as he found out his kid had knocked up his 12yo daughter.
@H.K
😂..........
Why would Jack start a confrontation and have Martin arrested if he bit back? 😂 Jack's not like that lmfao for someone who claims they don't like Martin you definitely make some absurd excuses for him 🙃.....
Omg is stacey off her meds or something saying they were experimenting and they got unlucky, wot a stupid thing to say, it's shocking to think that Stacey even thinks it's ok for lily to be " experimenting" at the age of 12
Anyone but Jack and Martin throws his weight here
He remembers what happened the last two times he took on a proper hardman!
i think martin would normally throw his weight around and try it with anyone on the square but phil or jack (unless drunk/pushed to the limit)
Also it seemed like too me that Martin was always scared of Mick Carter for some reason as well lol, just like he definitely is with Phil, since Phil dropped him a good few years back now, and you can kind of tell that he's wary of Jack, because the way he definitely acts when he's around him.
Would've been funny if Martin took a swing at jack 😂
And then jack got pissed tackled martin to the ground and beat him to death 😂
Considering how angry Jack was already, he would’ve put Martin in hospital.
@@H.K.5 Jack's always angry.
@Nafel Iqbal I really wished that happened but Martin was keeping his mouth shut because he got decked by a 60 year old phil and got backhanded by Stuart
Martin wouldn’t dare, if it was a bloke like Kush or howie he would have been screaming at them and throwing punches
Jack gets so easily angry
2:27
I am wearing HP pyjamas and I am not a kid
I think Sam should take Ricky Jr to Germany with her and Ricky Sr if he doesn't want to be involved with the baby. Jack and Jr when he is old enough can pay child support if Lily decides to keep the baby.
Lily and Ricky Jr both made the choice to have sex and made the baby. If Lily gets a choice of if she wants to keep it or not- why doesn't Ricky JR? just because Lily makes a descision? Her body her choice- but Ricky should get a choice too if he wants to stay or walk away. Lily's choice should she choose to keep it shouldn't deny Ricky Jr of that same choice. he should be able to Pay child support but have no involvement. Sam take him to Germany
Jack would smash Martin in a fight. Jack vs Cain Dingle would be a good soap crossover fight.
Jack would destroy Cain nowadays, Cain isn’t as tough as he was a few years ago.
Think Jack would flattern Cain to be honest
@@H.K.5 cain would get into his machida stance and throw slow motion punches and end up getting KOed by jack lol
@@nathanhowell3722 Yes, Jack is the closest thing we have to Grant Mitchell now.
@@H.K.5 I think prime Cain would beat Jack. Both have got lethal right hands and can fight but Cain has the edge on him imo. Would be a good fight
Jack and Stacey slept together a year on today, who would have thought?😮😂
Now is Ricky really the dad or is it a lie, so that the soaps writers can have someone even bigger down the line?
Yes just rehash the same stories done 5 times a year
@@spinofthewheel5345 it’s not the same story since these are different characters lol
@@Guitar-qv6gu obviously it's different characters u doofus
@@spinofthewheel5345 oi don’t be so bloody rude. Stop complaining about the storyline then since it happens to many people.
@@Guitar-qv6gu you watch that crap as a form of entertainment 🤣
What I don't like about this story line is that the fact Stacey and Martin are letting a CHILD decide what to do with her body. She is under the age of 16 and therefore the parents responsibility... if Lily was my daughter I would make her get an abortion then report the lad who did it to the police.
Exactly! Point proven!
@@Tool-Deftonesfan101 You've got me on a roll now! Hehe... Also... under aged sex if a girl is underage... she does not have the ABILITY to give consent whether she wants it or not... it doesn't matter whether the fella is under age as well or over the age of 18... in the eyes of the law it's rape.
You can't force a person to have an abortion. You can make them leave your home, but you can't force that on another person, your child or not. And yes, i have a child.
@@bubblezzxxd15 a child is a child and is not legally capable of making their own decisions until they are 18 until that age all responsibilities lie with the parent. Just like a child under the age of 16 can not legally consent to having sex. Rules are there for a reason x
@@houndsofroses3727 yes rules are there for a reason. And legally, you cannot force a person, not even your child, to have an abortion.
Prob gonna sound harsh but my mum told me if I was a girl in this position she would have dragged me down the clinic
Martin is just your typical bully. acts the big man around people he knows he can handle but backs down when things get tough lol
Phil would destroy Martin in a fight.
@@Uksoapfanwhy do u bring up Phil in every comment when it’s nothing to do with him.
@@JoshuaDillon03 Only one answer to that pal, scroll on by posts that annoy you. You do not pay my internet bill so I can mention Phil any time I like. As Frank Butcher used to say "put that in your pipe and smoke it my old son".
@@Uksoapfan actually try commenting without mentioning Phil and Grant and you’ll never comment again.
@@meenajutla He has been rude before but then apologised but being polite again never seems to last. I used to like Joshua but any liking or accolades I have I can take back like when Phil (dare I mention him again) took back any thing he did for Dan Sullivan when he found Dan was a grass over the car lot scam.
Oh, grow up, Jack! Cor blimey, his reaction is worse than Martin’s.
A teenage pregnancy storyline? Where do the writers get these original ideas??
it's a pre teen pregnancy....SMH
@@dlesher3101 Exactly, she’s still a little kid. Lol
Soaps need to back down to 3 days a week. These deadlines are excessive and that's why the quality has declined since the 90s, we get shows copying each other's ideas, characters going around in circles and episodes that are a chore to sit through.
@@tomhiggins6542 That's your opinion. I disagree. And these topics are happening every day in real life. So, what exactly is the problem with making people aware that this is becoming epidemic? There is none. Just another thing to bitch about.
@@dlesher3101 judging by declining viewers I'd say several agree.
This is super uncharacteristic of Martin, he's usually the loud one.
Not when he's the likes of Jack, Phil & Grant.
I don’t like Stacey but she is 10000% here. Jack sounds dish]gusting here. A typical MAN
funny how man is considered an insult in this day and age lol.
@@spencerreid2086 I think the term “typical man” has been around for some time…
@@Itsclarkew7 it has? okay my mistake.
Im liking the new angry jack. Hopefully see him through some punches. He is defo EEs most underated hardman
He’s rated pretty fairly tbh
@@H.K.5 I’d say he’s harder than Phil ever has been. Harder than Dennis and Sean too
@@lukethomasdillon3762 I agree he’s harder than Sean and Dennis but 1990-1995 Phil would wipe the floor with Jack in my opinion.
@@lukethomasdillon3762 I would like to see Jack in a full on fight with someone like Sean Slater. I would go for Jack but it would not be easy as Sean is skilled. Jack would deffo whip Ravi seeing as they have toned Ravi down.
@@lukethomasdillon3762 Your overrating him there to be fair
Lol Martin is a joke
well like aunty like nephew Ricky had a daughter at 13 Ronnie had a daughter at 14
Team stacey
jack may have a pretty active year this year with all this baby stuff and denises affair
Maybe the show is finally realising how Phil's got so old now & they are wasting so much of Jack's good years so are utilising him more. It would be about time.
@1977Suspiria i agree jack has about a good 6-8 years i say to rule in the hardman sense
Denise hasn't had an affair and I hope she doesn't. Wish Ravi and his kid would leave town...for good.
@@NoirFan84 They haven’t realised it, most people are still scared of Phil. Someone like Keanu shouldn’t be afraid of Phil at all but he is for some reason.
@@NoirFan84 Thing is I’m sure Jack is like 50+ so they’ve already wasted him I guess. Although Jack does keep himself in shape unlike Phil. All the hard men/bad boys have been awful in like the last 15 years. Vincent when he first arrived had promise and turned out to be shit. Carl, Derek etc. just bad
Go on stace!!!