especially when they could've easily baked it into the Dreadsteed itself instead of removing the glyph (but let monks keep their levatate). Just have it re-activate after about 10 seconds if you're not in combat. No big thing.
How about you do some content on your druid then? You should be getting one within like 3 world quest chests, the dropchance for your first two is ridiculously high.
Karlzone2 you say that the drop chance is ridiculously high. I played the shit out of the game on my main, I was doing everything I could, and yet no leggie would drop for me, my brother who played slightly more than me had 4 already and a friend of ours had 3, I eventually gave up on hoping to get one when my brothers fourth dropped without me getting a single one. A week later I was pleasantly surprised when one dropped for me, I have no hope for a second, however.
legendaries should be like green fire... rare drop item (class spesific?) starts a quest that is (mostly?) solo content that rewards the legendary after testing your skill with the class (cuz the green fire boss was pretty difficult when it first came out) that way it'd be accessable to everyone but would be (1) very rare and (2) very hard to obtain..
darcraven01 yes, what I kept saying since I saw the system. even a quest which awards you a token, which can be used to buy whatever you want...but it's easier. remove the fuckers, add a slot for a legendary relic, no ilvls, just the passive. and you just unlock the 2nd slot and choose the fun passive which works. it's so bloody easy to think of. Our ARTIFACT weapons are legendary by their nature. shouldn't empowering them further be the goal, rather than squirrels gifting me a magical trinket made of demons which fires a nuke... :D
I wish legendaries were back to be purposely OP and hard as fuck to be obtained so we would have none of this bullshit, "Wah wah wah i have no legendary!" whilst making legendaries easier to obtain until eventually everyone gets one at the end of the expansion. lmfao
My thoughts exactly, the best part about each legendary (that had a questline) was.... the questline! Add group elements and it turns into endless grinding and farming with the only enjoyable part being that shiny orange glow ad the end of the tunnel.
How rare are we talking here?? you know, im mythic raider, i do everything that got ap in there but i only just got my brawlers invite... I understand it being rare, but not the point where it would affect my performance in raids. But then again i liked idea of quests, they could be less grindy and more rp and/or solo challenge based but it was generally good system, youre best in your guild you get rewarded, unless you got stereotypical loot council(and stereotypes dont come from thin air) then youre waiting.
A quote by Ghostcrawler showed up on mmo-champ in the past week or two about how one of the biggest things they actually regretted was the 5-level cap increases for Cata and MoP because the reason they only did 5 levels was to give people a new ability every level. It made leveling through those expansions blow and ruined balance for years.
Man that Sonic music on #1 really brought back memories. For legendaries - have a class quest that lets you create a replica of the legendary (same weapon but no auras or effects). After completing that quest you receive another quest or an item that gives it a chance to drop in raid - once per week regardless of difficulty. This ties the legendary to story and non-raid but it means that raiders get the better piece of gear with all of the cool effects as a status symbol.
YES! THE WATER STRIDER! That was the only mount I ever used when they locked off flying in Warlords and Legion. Getting from point A to B the fastest is always a straight line and having to run around or in water is a hassle. And screw those boots!
I feel like Class Halls are an improvement on Garrisons... However Class Halls are kind of weird. Phase 1: You, champion, will now be known as Highlord of the Silver Hand! Phase 2: Highlord, we received informations from blahblahblah Phase end: *300 HurDurPaladins with Ashbringer and Highlord title*. Highlords of the Silver Hand should be the new name instead of Paladins of the Silver Hand
This was an awesome video. Music, camera editing and the little live footage scenes were all great. The casino and garrison scenes were the best, but they were all really funny. Nice Ben cameo in the flying one too. :)
"Water striders were a bad idea" Having enough water that we needed to traverse that people would do a rep grind to exalted to deal with it is a bad fucking idea
I've always been for having Legendaries or incredibly rare things in different aspects of the game that not everyone will attain or see. If you don't want to raid, too bad, you don't get to see it, don't pvp, you won't get those special mounts etc. Having something specific to the different aspects of the game is what makes me want to try and get on those levels to attain or see them. Seeing oranges fall out of the sky just dumbs them down, what makes them legendary if everyone has them?
I must be one of the few people who actually loves the Pathfinder system. No longer is flying just a gold sink once you reach max level in an expansion, its now actually impactful and rewarding, something to work towards.
The Garrison bit actually had me laughing out loud. I think you're the only guy on UA-cam that get's that reaction from me. Best UA-camr without a doubt.
You're not the only one, I abhor it. Out of all the crazy changes they've made over the years, dungeon finder and LFR are the ones that bother me the most, they devastated the realm communities. I know I'm an outlier, but I actually enjoyed taking the time to look for a group, bond with new people you met on your realm, and make friends in the process. Everything just feels so cold and distant these days.
without starting this whole "hurr vanilla is sooo gud durr" debate you can really feel the difference in lets say tbc/classic p-server and retail server community wise. the impact the community has on your game, your leveling and ultimately your fun is so much more intense than in legion nowadays.
With classic coming out, I hope it does well enough to get classic TBC. I'ma miss flight. I also think Wrath and Cata had the best legendary system. Yeah, they were quest based and you could pretty much calculate when you would get them. But they were also restricted to actual raiding. The joy I felt when we finally managed to keep me alive during the syndragosa fight while I was getting my frost infusion was supreme. My guild and I had worked hard on that, and when we finally put arthas to the blade, it was ever so much more satisfying than sticking a fire eye on a hammer and calling it done. Sure, the warglaives are cool, but extremely anti-climatic at the same time. It just beick walls when you get them. No fanfare, no story etc. But receiving it through a quest really gives it some spice in my opinion. On that note. Fuck legendary armor/jewelry/trinkets. The orange monoliths should always be weapons!
Fangs of the Father was my first legendary, worked my ass off for them, and I loved them. Used them all the way up til level 90. Was so hype for those.
I always believed add-ons was blizzards biggest regret, just imagine how much of the game design have been influenced by add-ons. Theey haave to design encounters in the game around people having add-ons, which means some add-ons are mandetory for most people in the game.
I disagree with this. No encounters are designed around addons. The addons are built for the encounter. Why do you think people who make addons use the ptr to test and build them. If DMB was removed all people would have to is make personal timers for when stuff was about to happen. The reason DBM is mandatory in most guilds is because people have the worse situational awareness and it ensures that if you fuck up you have no excuse other than you fucked up.
Absolute bollocks! The devs have at multiple occasions said that their encounter design progressed as addons for the game progressed. Without DBM, we would not have the complex encounters that we do today. Sure, you may be able to do all the content without addons, but that does not mean it's intended to be done that way. The devs know perfectly well that raiders use DBM and its timers, which means that simple timer based mechanics of the past are no longer a challenge.
Great video and good points. You're hitting it on the nail here. Blizzard needs to be more careful with what they implement. If they add something that's too convenient it breaks the already established game. Sometimes adding 1 piece of content can destroy 10 pieces of the previous content. They've been very busy the past expacs with thinking "What would be cool new gameplay?" What they really need to think is "What would make the gameplay that's already there cooler?"
I've been playing since late Vanilla and I have noticed that ever since Blizzard started pandering to masses to make everyone happy, they lost a lot of the core values this game had. You knew who was good just by looking at their gear. Content weeded out the terrible raiders and pvpers. Exclusive items to any content is now the mainstream for everyone and if you don't have these items, well, let's face it, people don't want you for raids or pvp. It's funny how things like that flip.
Yeah.. and everyone that was "good" looked exactly the same; no sort of customization. (Thank Frank Sinatra for the transmog system.) But yes, they have in fact tried making the game more accessible to the masses because, surprise surprise, they're a company that wants to make money, and you make more money if more people are willing to play your game; for better or for worse. I would agree that just handing out legendary weapons, that never need changing, at the start of an expansion was downright stupid, but that's also based on my personal opinion, and whether that's to their benefit or detriment in the end is their problem.
Nah, everyone looked different because of fucking clownsuits and shitty drop-rates on your upgrades. Every warrior had an Arcanite Reaper or Ice Barbed Spear, but there was only 1-2 dudes on your server in full dreadnought plate or their BiS. Besides the whole pander to masses just made WoW into an odd abomination of constantly changing features and dead-end development. It's basically an entirely different and opposite game to how it was even in early cataclysm.
Draenor and Broken Isles have so many hills and obscure areas that the absence of flying makes questing just plain annoying. I've spent up to an hour trying to find a way around a hill just to get to a quest goal. This is not fun. So flying mounts are a necessity. Either that or flatten out the maps.
Searching for a cave within another cave not indicated on the map deep down in some shitty mountain with an entrance 300 meters away from the actual quest marker is a key RPG element?
This is why Demon Hunter was the best class in 7.0. With double fel rush, blur (which at that time refreshed both charges of fel rush), glide and disengage, I didn't even bother mounting for short distances (thus skipping the tedious dismount, do stuff, remount) loop, and typically could find a way to climb what was in the way.
@Ben Robertson And who exactly has been forcing you, or anyone else for that matter, to use said flying mount when out and about in the world? The answer is no one. If you don't want to use them, you don't have to. But if you want to use them, you can. Let me guess though, your argument goes something like this: "But flying mounts take out all the fun from the game, because everyone should want to play the game the same way I do! And you can't seriously expect me not to use them if you give me the option to."
"I have a lot of regrets about Raid Finder for WoW. I am sure I worked on features that were much, much worse, but that's the first one that came to mind. To be clear, the goal of getting more players into raiding is a good one. But the way Raid Finder turned out removed, IMO anyway, a lot of the epicness of what made raiding raiding. I also haven't played WoW in a few years, so it's entirely possible they have solved the problem by now." - Ghostcrawler
Garrisons should have been only for guilds, a place where a guild can chill and work together to build it up! [Still making 30k weekly from garrisons though]
Legendarys should drop off the final boss of the expansion so it doesn't trivialise any future content, be class wide i.e quest drop so everyone can have one, be unbelievably fucking rare, be personal loot so it can't be argued over and be disabled when new expansions come out
They need to stop worrying about upsetting people, let them leave. They'll be back! I miss the days were I had no chance of acquiring any good gear and I had to walk around looking at players with epics and legendaries that were just that, epic and legendary. Now they're available to me it's just not interesting, they try to make you feel like the world needs you, it was so much better when they made it feel like the world would continue without you.
Dangleplums however clearly not for everyone. I see your side of it, but Blizzard is trying to please the masses, they dont care if some people leave, as long as the majority stays, and they found the best way to keep people was to make stuff less difficult to get
I know, but I think that by doing that they've put themselves on a sinking ship. They're always bleeding subs, particularly so since they started making things easier, they get a big boost every exp but it doesn't feel sustainable to me...when people whinging start getting what they want they end up leaving
Yup, this couldn"t be more true. The satisfaction of getting rare items lies in the difficulty, and the general "it's on you to get these items, and even then, you may still never get it" feeling in the processes of obtaining them. Otherwise, if these items are just handed out to people, it doesn't carry that same amount of prestige and satisfaction in owning.
really that was the best way to keep people i wonder where the fuck everyone is lol game is utter shit because the casuals cried a river and for some fuck reason blizz caved in and now the game is shit lol legendaries for everyone? get out of here thats shit i remeber how epic it was to see a rogue with both glaives you where like damn holy shit if every rogue was like that then who the fuck cares
Or it could just be because of the fact that this is a game that is running on a 13 year old formula that people have already gotten tired of. And I also remember the olden days when I saw people going around with great legendaries, shiny PvP-gear, and epic thingamabobs. I also remember quitting for a few years because the amount time and energy you needed to sink into the game to get said gear was ridiculous. Mind you, they have gone off the rails a little to much in the other direction this time; just handing them out for free at the start is in fact equally as stupid. Now if they could just skip back a little bit more towards the centre that would be great; though you can never appease everyone, and even trying to is a pointless practice.
Your reasoning for 10 mans being bad is ridiculous, it isn't unfair if someone does 10 and 25 man raiding, its like saying its unfair someone else is jacked because you don't go to the gym.
#5: Don't anyone forget 4.0, when they wanted to say "10 and 25 mans are equal!" and forgot that in 10man, you don't have quite as many interrupts or cleanses as you do in 25, and murdered the casual raiding scene in the process....oops. And no wow regrets without arenas? For shame, sir.
I remember being neck and neck with a Frost DK when competing for a spot in a top 100 guild. I had two Blood legos and he had the Frost Wrists. We were neck and neck in terms of damage and mechanics but then I got the DK lego cloak and he got the BIS Frost DK helm so I decided to stop raiding for a while xD
Legendaries? Let's go a step further and make purples EPIC again. I remember getting my first piece of my T1 set almost 12 years ago. I was so excited it was almost comparable to Christmas morning. And now today I probably looted over 10 epics through solo content all of which got vendered for gold. Not very exciting. The best items in the game should be rare and only rewarded to those who work hard for them. I also feel like having 20 different scaled variations of the same gear takes away from its uniqueness and ultimately diminishes its overall reward value. At this rate, blizzard might as well sell legendaries in their store and give everyone who joins a battle ground the Grandmarshal tittle.
A solution for garrisons: Make them Guild Garrisons. Every guildie can be on the same isntance and contribute to their guild garisson. I believe that this would be a nice idea.
funny, the Legendary Cloak was given to everyone and everyone loved their personal journey towards it (except collecting the rng raid drop grinds & it having a lackluster appearance & proc) - and the story around it was awesome and it was a culmination of how a something that everyone can have can still be special because its personalized
The old leggo system had the best feel but led to poaching problems. Legendaries for everyone felt like shit but solved those problems. And Legiondaries are just the worst of all worlds. You almost couldn't design a worse system if you tried.
agree with u somewhat - current legendary system is a joke, but its always been a joke tbh.... theres a great system out there they just need to put more time into their reward structure to figure it out. I also think the new Blizzard has some strange ideas like excessive fixation with RNG these days...it seems to have started around the Diablo 3 development era...
Tl;Dr - a big sappy post about, "old" world of warcraft Nothing is more dissatisfying than having legendaries drop from a chest. Since when was opening a hecking chest legendary? World of Warcraft turned to World of Convenience-Craft after wrath it would seem. The legendary feeling of teaming up with players, socializing through the world, discovering items that actually felt legendary (even when they were only rare), zones chalk full of interesting quests, easter eggs and storylines. But, most of all, the game actually felt like it had character and excitement. It seems that the game is all but interesting with classes being so homogenized, the story feeling so lackluster and cliche, and epic moments feeling all but epic. I remember getting 1 silver 2 copper from a stag when I first started playing. I thought I hit the jackpot since the other mobs dropped only a few copper pieces. I remember later on getting a mount and that felt incredible after saving all I had to get it with a friend. I remember leveling up and seeing spells that weren't always useful but they were so cool I didn't care. I remember the freshness of zones full of areas I could return to for good reasons. I remember getting the Stonecore mount on my first run of the dungeon without knowing the mount existed. Hell, I remember when the game was all about exploring new areas, killing bosses I didn't really understand, and being lost in a world far larger than my imagination had ever seen before. After years of playing the game, those sparks of wonder disappeared beyond nostalgia, and that's okay. It's normal to get use to things. The game is, and will forever be, life changing to me. But 8 years since the day I walked through the gates of Stormwind, I hate to see the few things that remain wondrous after all these years begin to slip away.
1. Raid Finder 2. Removing the Felguards ability to hold Sulfuras the Hand of Ragnaros with Glyph of Felguard 3. Removing The Keymaster and the attunements 4. The Felguards new mouth 5. WoD only having 2 patches 6. Not giving us Neutral Ethereals 7. Making Magatha Grimtotem a follower instead of saving her to be a future raid boss 8. The new Firelord 9. The Thunderfury appearance Outlaw Rogues get 10. The Rogue Class Hall
TBF, it had a lot of content for it in the works they decided to cut. A lot of the content looked really fun and were almost done too. So there's that.
I think the MOP lego system was great, so maybe using that in future but with a warlock green fire style solo boss too. That way they can be very hard to earn yet not completely RNG. And maybe there could be mythic only rng rare drops too.
World pvp was a huge thing back in the days. It was a huge part of the fun on pvp servers. Now we only get videos made from arenas and battlegrounds, because they are the only places for pvp, especially so after Blizzard introduced cross server system.
As the lucky person who got the 2nd Eye of Sulfuras in my vanilla raiding guild, I was unlucky enough to be burdened with having to pony up the gold for all of the ingots that my guild no longer had after spending them ON A FUCKING RET PALLY. So, if they bring back dropped legendaries, it would be nice if they aren't tied to ridiculously expensive mats.
As someone who was on a top guild for a server, we did 25 man until we couldn't progress anymore without more gear, usually 2-3 days after raid reset, then we'd split into 3 groups and progress through 10man for more loot. pulling 5 others from reserves that weren't as consistent in attendance. That system worked for us, idk what others are complaining about
Transmoging is an underrated fuck-up imo. Kind of trivial, but it ruined a part of the game for me. At the same time I can see the benefits and why it was implemented.
I personally love transmog, so I'd be interested to know how did it ruin a part of the game for you? Is it because it added something to worry about (having matching gear)?
I guess it removed sense of uniqueness and achievement. Before, you could tell just by looking at players what kind of player they were. Now everyone is a dress-up doll. I don't really know if my reasons are valid tbh and as I said, there are benefits to it as well.
GummyBoar At least with the new talent system you get to actually change your talents depending on the encounter. Before it was changed you literally had one correct spec, and anything else was just wrong. The only thing that it had going for it was that you could spend more points, so I guess it felt better.
I really like the way you get flying in Draenor and Broken isles now. Mens you do get your flying mounts but generally only after you've hit level cap and done everything. So it is purely a post content convenience for getting around rather than crutch for basically ignoring content.
one way i think flying can be improved without being removed is add a max flight height for the lower flying skills and make it impossible to just fly over mountains and cliffs (with some exeptions to account for otherwise unreachable areas). For example expert riding would allow you to fly high enough to not pull agro on mobs but nowhere near high enough to not feel part of the zone. Jumping off a high spot would make it work as a glider and give you a controllable, even straight glide down. at first highest riding skill would be unchanged. After a while they could see if it was a popular idea, if so they could implement it for the higher riding skills as well.
Sebastian öster Lmao!!! How is it horrible? You dont have to fucking use it. You can Group up and fucking RP walk to anything you want. No one is making you do a God damn thing. You're another fucking neck beard mouth breather that thinks your way to play is the only way. Get fucked.
Timothy Jahn wow someome got really butthurt of someone that has ANOTHER opinion then himself! haha this is anarci! cant help your that bad at the game that you need blizz to hand you free epics hahaha xD
Caladan.... ahhhh, I got it! ;) "I'll miss the sea, but a man needs new experiences. They jar something deep within' - allowing him to grow. Without change: something sleeps inside us and seldom awakens... The sleeper must awaken!" -Duke Leto Atreides
Robert Boehme i personally enjoyed MoP... and in honestly not alone in that... it was, overall, one of the best expansions... (yes there was some problems with it but there was problems with every expansion, so.. ╮(╯_╰)╭ )
For legendaries, I would like it to return to the loot table like in BC. Mythic only. I barely play wow though, but if it was like that, when you see someone with a legendary, you would be-... You know. Impressed. Remember that? Seeing people with something crazy powerful and being impressed? It had that unique model and appearance and you knew what it was right away. You see that Night Elf Rogue in Alterac Valley running at you with the twin warglaives and you flee for your life.
I would also okay with solving the various mechanical problems of legendaries by having them not as gear slot items, but, function as cosmetics or similar things : kinda like the green fire drop. That way you have the excitement of it dropping, you get something thats super cool and wont be going anyway any time soon, but don't have to deal with all the mechanical problems that come with a super strong item. Plus, on a selfish note, i care far more about bitching cosmetics and unique appearance/animation stuff than output. This is personal opinion here, but to me gear is a means to an end to complete more content, and id rather the legendary's were outside that cycle and felt a reward in and of themselves. Personal taste entirely here though.
blizzards biggest regret: Not capitalizing on DoTA 1 when it was still a warcraft 3 mod.
Mike Morhaime actually confirmed this recently.
Yep
Because their brains went sour after vanilla wow
we want top 5 mountains
YOU! IN THE MOUNTAINS......BUT YOU!
Sounds like a crendor video
There were 2 pretty amazing ones in the Legendary Casino part....
haha exactly , pointless top 10 mountains
David.....I get it.
I'm a dk main, why would I EVER need a water strider? -Very stupid past me
Path of Frost is so damn hard to live without even on my shaman alt i get irritated every time i have to dismount to use waterwalk
Class fantasy bruh.
Chimchompat
Yeah well I am a warlock and they took my running on water capabilities away from me. Why not you too?
especially when they could've easily baked it into the Dreadsteed itself instead of removing the glyph (but let monks keep their levatate). Just have it re-activate after about 10 seconds if you're not in combat. No big thing.
yep, but the mist time walking came about and now I have one for my alts.
Now we know why Preach is always smiling.
just 2 reasons....
Solution is to make literally every item orange. How you gonna complain then?!
Hell make all the Races orange the mounts, the bosses interfaces the whole * *beeping* * world ORANGE ALL OF IT!!!
They made opposite faction names orange, that means we are all legendary.
tbh I was confused when I saw oranges names running around in the start of 7.2 xD I was like what is going on with all these legendarys
Wildstar did this for raid gear lmao. (They have pinkies, rare drop off of a raid boss)
That kinda what they did to epics....
the fact that my lvl 99 monk got a ledgedary from opening a treasure chest in Highmountain and my main druid has none bothers me.
but that story i'll save for Drama Time..
How about you do some content on your druid then? You should be getting one within like 3 world quest chests, the dropchance for your first two is ridiculously high.
Your Druid definitely isn't what you call a "main" What do you even do when you play your "main"
maybe i'll type the story. (in pdf) who knows.
Karlzone2 you say that the drop chance is ridiculously high. I played the shit out of the game on my main, I was doing everything I could, and yet no leggie would drop for me, my brother who played slightly more than me had 4 already and a friend of ours had 3, I eventually gave up on hoping to get one when my brothers fourth dropped without me getting a single one. A week later I was pleasantly surprised when one dropped for me, I have no hope for a second, however.
legendaries should be like green fire... rare drop item (class spesific?) starts a quest that is (mostly?) solo content that rewards the legendary after testing your skill with the class (cuz the green fire boss was pretty difficult when it first came out)
that way it'd be accessable to everyone but would be (1) very rare and (2) very hard to obtain..
darcraven01 yes, what I kept saying since I saw the system. even a quest which awards you a token, which can be used to buy whatever you want...but it's easier. remove the fuckers, add a slot for a legendary relic, no ilvls, just the passive. and you just unlock the 2nd slot and choose the fun passive which works. it's so bloody easy to think of. Our ARTIFACT weapons are legendary by their nature. shouldn't empowering them further be the goal, rather than squirrels gifting me a magical trinket made of demons which fires a nuke... :D
I wish legendaries were back to be purposely OP and hard as fuck to be obtained so we would have none of this bullshit,
"Wah wah wah i have no legendary!"
whilst making legendaries easier to obtain until eventually everyone gets one at the end of the expansion. lmfao
My thoughts exactly, the best part about each legendary (that had a questline) was.... the questline! Add group elements and it turns into endless grinding and farming with the only enjoyable part being that shiny orange glow ad the end of the tunnel.
How rare are we talking here?? you know, im mythic raider, i do everything that got ap in there but i only just got my brawlers invite...
I understand it being rare, but not the point where it would affect my performance in raids.
But then again i liked idea of quests, they could be less grindy and more rp and/or solo challenge based but it was generally good system, youre best in your guild you get rewarded, unless you got stereotypical loot council(and stereotypes dont come from thin air) then youre waiting.
Lol I just scrolled down after commenting basically the exact same thing! :P
"so lets give it to a hunter, for safety." i lost my shit
Hey rogues were allowed equal loot priority on Thori'dal because it was BiS.
I don't even have a water strider, lol. Was too lazy to do the dailies.
You can do timewalking n buy the rep badges off the vendor during MoP timewalking :D
The best part of this video was Preach, Ghost, Emma and the Mitchell Brothers in the casino.
Caladan... +100 pts, nice reference. "Tell me of the waters of your homeworld, Usul"
A quote by Ghostcrawler showed up on mmo-champ in the past week or two about how one of the biggest things they actually regretted was the 5-level cap increases for Cata and MoP because the reason they only did 5 levels was to give people a new ability every level. It made leveling through those expansions blow and ruined balance for years.
I enjoyed Cata leveling. MOP ahhhh...not so much as I found the zones to be too similiar.
The bit with the Garrison Resources just about crippled my lungs. That was pretty damn mint
Emma in that dress tho m8
Preach in bath is my new desktop theme.
Man that Sonic music on #1 really brought back memories.
For legendaries - have a class quest that lets you create a replica of the legendary (same weapon but no auras or effects). After completing that quest you receive another quest or an item that gives it a chance to drop in raid - once per week regardless of difficulty. This ties the legendary to story and non-raid but it means that raiders get the better piece of gear with all of the cool effects as a status symbol.
I personally liked 10 man raids since I had a potato computer and 25 was so laggy it was unplayable.
That was an awesome video guys, and it is true, your Top 5's are awesome, I keep watching the old ones over and over again, keep it up!
Not a bad first attempt at a 'big vid' right ?
YES! THE WATER STRIDER! That was the only mount I ever used when they locked off flying in Warlords and Legion. Getting from point A to B the fastest is always a straight line and having to run around or in water is a hassle. And screw those boots!
Harder at 110 to gear in all greens then all epics.
When normal quests constantly give you rares or epics, something is seriously broken
I feel like Class Halls are an improvement on Garrisons... However Class Halls are kind of weird.
Phase 1: You, champion, will now be known as Highlord of the Silver Hand!
Phase 2: Highlord, we received informations from blahblahblah
Phase end: *300 HurDurPaladins with Ashbringer and Highlord title*.
Highlords of the Silver Hand should be the new name instead of Paladins of the Silver Hand
Wow the production quality of your vids it has really improved a lot, great work!
Fulvio Molinengo thank his patreons. I mean I'm not one but patreons do make it so people can make better videos
This was an awesome video.
Music, camera editing and the little live footage scenes were all great.
The casino and garrison scenes were the best, but they were all really funny. Nice Ben cameo in the flying one too. :)
Oranges are damaged :/ - Sky Captain Swayze
TABandiTA welcome aboard the skyfire
"Water striders were a bad idea"
Having enough water that we needed to traverse that people would do a rep grind to exalted to deal with it is a bad fucking idea
In the words of Syndrome: When everyone is super, noone will be.
My biggest WoW regret, is that I did not locate where the guy who ninja'd my Eye of Sulfuras, back in vanilla lived, and shoot him in the face.
Blizz should implement something like guild house when guild bros can chill out together
Agreed.
15:01 Suddenly, Sonic the Hedgehog 2 zone music. I was not prepared.
#1 mountain on the top 5 mountain list....preachers wife's mountains
The happy music at the 2 min mark is soo good. I missed this from his old vids. Great vid!
I fucking died at the garrison part
I've always been for having Legendaries or incredibly rare things in different aspects of the game that not everyone will attain or see. If you don't want to raid, too bad, you don't get to see it, don't pvp, you won't get those special mounts etc. Having something specific to the different aspects of the game is what makes me want to try and get on those levels to attain or see them. Seeing oranges fall out of the sky just dumbs them down, what makes them legendary if everyone has them?
i love you preach!! your content is consistently top notch and you deserve 20mil subs.
I must be one of the few people who actually loves the Pathfinder system. No longer is flying just a gold sink once you reach max level in an expansion, its now actually impactful and rewarding, something to work towards.
The Garrison bit actually had me laughing out loud. I think you're the only guy on UA-cam that get's that reaction from me. Best UA-camr without a doubt.
I miss the energy Preacher used to bring into WoW vids
I see miss preach got huge tracks of land.
Finally it's been ages since we've had a top 5. The top 5s and legacy videos was why I subscribed.
Classic Sonic music was a nice touch.
I was wondering was it from an old Sonic game. I used to play those a lot, but I wasn't sure...
Yeah I just listened to the old soundtracks (deadly music), it's from Casino Night Zone - Sonic 2.
please keep doing top five videos, really like the format. great editing again Ghost
i hate the dungeon finder
You're not the only one, I abhor it. Out of all the crazy changes they've made over the years, dungeon finder and LFR are the ones that bother me the most, they devastated the realm communities. I know I'm an outlier, but I actually enjoyed taking the time to look for a group, bond with new people you met on your realm, and make friends in the process. Everything just feels so cold and distant these days.
without starting this whole "hurr vanilla is sooo gud durr" debate you can really feel the difference in lets say tbc/classic p-server and retail server community wise. the impact the community has on your game, your leveling and ultimately your fun is so much more intense than in legion nowadays.
Dungeon Finder ruined the game
no i actually didnt m8
ahh the good old days of spamming /2 as a hunter. those were the days
With classic coming out, I hope it does well enough to get classic TBC. I'ma miss flight.
I also think Wrath and Cata had the best legendary system. Yeah, they were quest based and you could pretty much calculate when you would get them. But they were also restricted to actual raiding.
The joy I felt when we finally managed to keep me alive during the syndragosa fight while I was getting my frost infusion was supreme. My guild and I had worked hard on that, and when we finally put arthas to the blade, it was ever so much more satisfying than sticking a fire eye on a hammer and calling it done.
Sure, the warglaives are cool, but extremely anti-climatic at the same time. It just beick walls when you get them. No fanfare, no story etc. But receiving it through a quest really gives it some spice in my opinion.
On that note. Fuck legendary armor/jewelry/trinkets. The orange monoliths should always be weapons!
Top 5 Mountains
Fangs of the Father was my first legendary, worked my ass off for them, and I loved them. Used them all the way up til level 90. Was so hype for those.
I always believed add-ons was blizzards biggest regret, just imagine how much of the game design have been influenced by add-ons. Theey haave to design encounters in the game around people having add-ons, which means some add-ons are mandetory for most people in the game.
Well addons were also a large part of what gave WoW an edge over lots of other MMOs, so I don't truly think they regret it.
Not really. Addons made game customizable as fuck which is great in this kind of game.
Addons are awesome :)!
I disagree with this. No encounters are designed around addons. The addons are built for the encounter. Why do you think people who make addons use the ptr to test and build them. If DMB was removed all people would have to is make personal timers for when stuff was about to happen. The reason DBM is mandatory in most guilds is because people have the worse situational awareness and it ensures that if you fuck up you have no excuse other than you fucked up.
Absolute bollocks! The devs have at multiple occasions said that their encounter design progressed as addons for the game progressed. Without DBM, we would not have the complex encounters that we do today. Sure, you may be able to do all the content without addons, but that does not mean it's intended to be done that way. The devs know perfectly well that raiders use DBM and its timers, which means that simple timer based mechanics of the past are no longer a challenge.
"So lets give it to a hunter, for safety" Spat water all over my monitor.
Was that music at the casino part from an old Sonic game?
Yep!
I see Emma rolled a Legendary Chest.
under appreciated comment.
Great video and good points. You're hitting it on the nail here. Blizzard needs to be more careful with what they implement. If they add something that's too convenient it breaks the already established game. Sometimes adding 1 piece of content can destroy 10 pieces of the previous content.
They've been very busy the past expacs with thinking "What would be cool new gameplay?" What they really need to think is "What would make the gameplay that's already there cooler?"
I've been playing since late Vanilla and I have noticed that ever since Blizzard started pandering to masses to make everyone happy, they lost a lot of the core values this game had. You knew who was good just by looking at their gear. Content weeded out the terrible raiders and pvpers. Exclusive items to any content is now the mainstream for everyone and if you don't have these items, well, let's face it, people don't want you for raids or pvp. It's funny how things like that flip.
Yeah.. and everyone that was "good" looked exactly the same; no sort of customization. (Thank Frank Sinatra for the transmog system.) But yes, they have in fact tried making the game more accessible to the masses because, surprise surprise, they're a company that wants to make money, and you make more money if more people are willing to play your game; for better or for worse.
I would agree that just handing out legendary weapons, that never need changing, at the start of an expansion was downright stupid, but that's also based on my personal opinion, and whether that's to their benefit or detriment in the end is their problem.
Nah, everyone looked different because of fucking clownsuits and shitty drop-rates on your upgrades. Every warrior had an Arcanite Reaper or Ice Barbed Spear, but there was only 1-2 dudes on your server in full dreadnought plate or their BiS.
Besides the whole pander to masses just made WoW into an odd abomination of constantly changing features and dead-end development. It's basically an entirely different and opposite game to how it was even in early cataclysm.
Preach, you sitting in the bath is now my wallpaper. On my pc AND my phone. Thanks bro
Draenor and Broken Isles have so many hills and obscure areas that the absence of flying makes questing just plain annoying. I've spent up to an hour trying to find a way around a hill just to get to a quest goal. This is not fun. So flying mounts are a necessity. Either that or flatten out the maps.
Yea lets remove a key RPG element out of an MMORPG because it took some spastic up to an hour to maneuver some in world terrain.
Searching for a cave within another cave not indicated on the map deep down in some shitty mountain with an entrance 300 meters away from the actual quest marker is a key RPG element?
Exploration and travel are absolutely key elements in an RPG game.
This is why Demon Hunter was the best class in 7.0.
With double fel rush, blur (which at that time refreshed both charges of fel rush), glide and disengage, I didn't even bother mounting for short distances (thus skipping the tedious dismount, do stuff, remount) loop, and typically could find a way to climb what was in the way.
@Ben Robertson
And who exactly has been forcing you, or anyone else for that matter, to use said flying mount when out and about in the world? The answer is no one. If you don't want to use them, you don't have to. But if you want to use them, you can.
Let me guess though, your argument goes something like this:
"But flying mounts take out all the fun from the game, because everyone should want to play the game the same way I do! And you can't seriously expect me not to use them if you give me the option to."
OMG Preach/Ghost .....those IRL segments had me in stitches. Well done.
LFR was a bigger regret than water striding.
EXOdagr8t Please... Link anything... ANYTHING that Blizz has said about regretting LFR.
"I have a lot of regrets about Raid Finder for WoW. I am sure I worked on features that were much, much worse, but that's the first one that came to mind.
To be clear, the goal of getting more players into raiding is a good one. But the way Raid Finder turned out removed, IMO anyway, a lot of the epicness of what made raiding raiding. I also haven't played WoW in a few years, so it's entirely possible they have solved the problem by now." - Ghostcrawler
Ghostcrawler said that was his worst move while working on wow.
owned
Now he works for Riot. LOL
Garrisons should have been only for guilds, a place where a guild can chill and work together to build it up!
[Still making 30k weekly from garrisons though]
Your casino host has legendaries... Need or greed?
Ahhhhh that Casnio Night Zone music. Epic nostalgia moment.
Preaches wife tho hhhnnnngggg
not gonna lie i was like holy crap nice titties who is that
That's a nice pair of knockers there.
S K So you expect every "good-looking" Girl to look Like those repetitive White girls you see on the streets?
Legendarys should drop off the final boss of the expansion so it doesn't trivialise any future content, be class wide i.e quest drop so everyone can have one, be unbelievably fucking rare, be personal loot so it can't be argued over and be disabled when new expansions come out
They need to stop worrying about upsetting people, let them leave. They'll be back! I miss the days were I had no chance of acquiring any good gear and I had to walk around looking at players with epics and legendaries that were just that, epic and legendary. Now they're available to me it's just not interesting, they try to make you feel like the world needs you, it was so much better when they made it feel like the world would continue without you.
Dangleplums however clearly not for everyone. I see your side of it, but Blizzard is trying to please the masses, they dont care if some people leave, as long as the majority stays, and they found the best way to keep people was to make stuff less difficult to get
I know, but I think that by doing that they've put themselves on a sinking ship. They're always bleeding subs, particularly so since they started making things easier, they get a big boost every exp but it doesn't feel sustainable to me...when people whinging start getting what they want they end up leaving
Yup, this couldn"t be more true. The satisfaction of getting rare items lies in the difficulty, and the general "it's on you to get these items, and even then, you may still never get it" feeling in the processes of obtaining them. Otherwise, if these items are just handed out to people, it doesn't carry that same amount of prestige and satisfaction in owning.
really that was the best way to keep people i wonder where the fuck everyone is lol game is utter shit because the casuals cried a river and for some fuck reason blizz caved in and now the game is shit lol legendaries for everyone? get out of here thats shit i remeber how epic it was to see a rogue with both glaives you where like damn holy shit if every rogue was like that then who the fuck cares
Or it could just be because of the fact that this is a game that is running on a 13 year old formula that people have already gotten tired of.
And I also remember the olden days when I saw people going around with great legendaries, shiny PvP-gear, and epic thingamabobs. I also remember quitting for a few years because the amount time and energy you needed to sink into the game to get said gear was ridiculous. Mind you, they have gone off the rails a little to much in the other direction this time; just handing them out for free at the start is in fact equally as stupid. Now if they could just skip back a little bit more towards the centre that would be great; though you can never appease everyone, and even trying to is a pointless practice.
2:27 i just LOVE that fireball animation. My favorite to this day. Dont know what it is but it just seemed more powerful back then.
Your reasoning for 10 mans being bad is ridiculous, it isn't unfair if someone does 10 and 25 man raiding, its like saying its unfair someone else is jacked because you don't go to the gym.
#5: Don't anyone forget 4.0, when they wanted to say "10 and 25 mans are equal!" and forgot that in 10man, you don't have quite as many interrupts or cleanses as you do in 25, and murdered the casual raiding scene in the process....oops.
And no wow regrets without arenas? For shame, sir.
NO RAGRETS
I remember being neck and neck with a Frost DK when competing for a spot in a top 100 guild. I had two Blood legos and he had the Frost Wrists. We were neck and neck in terms of damage and mechanics but then I got the DK lego cloak and he got the BIS Frost DK helm so I decided to stop raiding for a while xD
Legendaries? Let's go a step further and make purples EPIC again. I remember getting my first piece of my T1 set almost 12 years ago. I was so excited it was almost comparable to Christmas morning. And now today I probably looted over 10 epics through solo content all of which got vendered for gold. Not very exciting. The best items in the game should be rare and only rewarded to those who work hard for them. I also feel like having 20 different scaled variations of the same gear takes away from its uniqueness and ultimately diminishes its overall reward value. At this rate, blizzard might as well sell legendaries in their store and give everyone who joins a battle ground the Grandmarshal tittle.
A solution for garrisons: Make them Guild Garrisons. Every guildie can be on the same isntance and contribute to their guild garisson. I believe that this would be a nice idea.
funny, the Legendary Cloak was given to everyone and everyone loved their personal journey towards it (except collecting the rng raid drop grinds & it having a lackluster appearance & proc) - and the story around it was awesome and it was a culmination of how a something that everyone can have can still be special because its personalized
"everyone loved it"? Did we play the same game?
What a sheltered statement.
"everyone loved it"
It was an expansion long raid requirement, same with the ring. It was supremely shit
The old leggo system had the best feel but led to poaching problems.
Legendaries for everyone felt like shit but solved those problems.
And Legiondaries are just the worst of all worlds. You almost couldn't design a worse system if you tried.
agree with u somewhat - current legendary system is a joke, but its always been a joke tbh.... theres a great system out there they just need to put more time into their reward structure to figure it out.
I also think the new Blizzard has some strange ideas like excessive fixation with RNG these days...it seems to have started around the Diablo 3 development era...
Thumbs up for Mrs Preach with the tatas out in the interlude lol
Tl;Dr - a big sappy post about, "old" world of warcraft
Nothing is more dissatisfying than having legendaries drop from a chest. Since when was opening a hecking chest legendary? World of Warcraft turned to World of Convenience-Craft after wrath it would seem. The legendary feeling of teaming up with players, socializing through the world, discovering items that actually felt legendary (even when they were only rare), zones chalk full of interesting quests, easter eggs and storylines. But, most of all, the game actually felt like it had character and excitement. It seems that the game is all but interesting with classes being so homogenized, the story feeling so lackluster and cliche, and epic moments feeling all but epic.
I remember getting 1 silver 2 copper from a stag when I first started playing. I thought I hit the jackpot since the other mobs dropped only a few copper pieces. I remember later on getting a mount and that felt incredible after saving all I had to get it with a friend. I remember leveling up and seeing spells that weren't always useful but they were so cool I didn't care. I remember the freshness of zones full of areas I could return to for good reasons. I remember getting the Stonecore mount on my first run of the dungeon without knowing the mount existed. Hell, I remember when the game was all about exploring new areas, killing bosses I didn't really understand, and being lost in a world far larger than my imagination had ever seen before. After years of playing the game, those sparks of wonder disappeared beyond nostalgia, and that's okay. It's normal to get use to things. The game is, and will forever be, life changing to me. But 8 years since the day I walked through the gates of Stormwind, I hate to see the few things that remain wondrous after all these years begin to slip away.
@number 3
This is why DKs rule - we can walk on water without the water strider.
1. Raid Finder
2. Removing the Felguards ability to hold Sulfuras the Hand of Ragnaros with Glyph of Felguard
3. Removing The Keymaster and the attunements
4. The Felguards new mouth
5. WoD only having 2 patches
6. Not giving us Neutral Ethereals
7. Making Magatha Grimtotem a follower instead of saving her to be a future raid boss
8. The new Firelord
9. The Thunderfury appearance Outlaw Rogues get
10. The Rogue Class Hall
WoD being too short? you wanted the shittiest expansion ever to go on longer?
a wow expansion should have 3 or 4 patches, WoD had 2.
TBF, it had a lot of content for it in the works they decided to cut. A lot of the content looked really fun and were almost done too. So there's that.
this is not about the things you hate... this is about the thing that blizz hates
I think the MOP lego system was great, so maybe using that in future but with a warlock green fire style solo boss too. That way they can be very hard to earn yet not completely RNG. And maybe there could be mythic only rng rare drops too.
Holy shit Ms. Preach.... nice dress....
FINALLY a new Top 5, been waiting for ages mate!
good job Emma!
1. Not claiming IP rights on DotA while it still was just a WC3 map
Oh nvm, it's about WoW only
#1. Warlords of Draenor
I don't no what broke me more at 9:55, that mount riding skill or ghosty laughing in the background
FLYING MOUNTS RUINED WOW WORLD PVP
lol world pvp
oh does people flying away from you trying to gank them hurt you EGO... awww QQ
World pvp was a huge thing back in the days. It was a huge part of the fun on pvp servers. Now we only get videos made from arenas and battlegrounds, because they are the only places for pvp, especially so after Blizzard introduced cross server system.
who the fuck cares about world pvp
Wod proved you wrong, mate.
Fantastic video. I loved Mike in the bath! All the IRL scenes were very good
Top 5 Blizzard regrets:
1) WotLK
2) Cata
3) MoP
4) WoD
5) Legion
mop and legion wasnt that bad
As the lucky person who got the 2nd Eye of Sulfuras in my vanilla raiding guild, I was unlucky enough to be burdened with having to pony up the gold for all of the ingots that my guild no longer had after spending them ON A FUCKING RET PALLY. So, if they bring back dropped legendaries, it would be nice if they aren't tied to ridiculously expensive mats.
I read it as Regents because im autistic.
Addiswon I don't see how a social disability would affect your reading skills.
That would be dyslexia.
no it would not
Lord AJ, specially one that in most cases improve the general comprehension of either words or numbers.
As someone who was on a top guild for a server, we did 25 man until we couldn't progress anymore without more gear, usually 2-3 days after raid reset, then we'd split into 3 groups and progress through 10man for more loot. pulling 5 others from reserves that weren't as consistent in attendance.
That system worked for us, idk what others are complaining about
1. Removing the old talent system
2.WoD
3.Transmog
4.Epics are too easy to get
5.Guaranteed legendaries
Transmoging is an underrated fuck-up imo. Kind of trivial, but it ruined a part of the game for me. At the same time I can see the benefits and why it was implemented.
I personally love transmog, so I'd be interested to know how did it ruin a part of the game for you? Is it because it added something to worry about (having matching gear)?
I guess it removed sense of uniqueness and achievement. Before, you could tell just by looking at players what kind of player they were. Now everyone is a dress-up doll. I don't really know if my reasons are valid tbh and as I said, there are benefits to it as well.
GummyBoar At least with the new talent system you get to actually change your talents depending on the encounter. Before it was changed you literally had one correct spec, and anything else was just wrong. The only thing that it had going for it was that you could spend more points, so I guess it felt better.
Owen Ishii It's the classic more options = more choice fallacy.
I Absolutely love the background midi music you use on these videos!
Damn, dat Emma tho.
I really like the way you get flying in Draenor and Broken isles now. Mens you do get your flying mounts but generally only after you've hit level cap and done everything. So it is purely a post content convenience for getting around rather than crutch for basically ignoring content.
15:20 hmm not sure weather to cringe or fap
one way i think flying can be improved without being removed is add a max flight height for the lower flying skills and make it impossible to just fly over mountains and cliffs (with some exeptions to account for otherwise unreachable areas). For example expert riding would allow you to fly high enough to not pull agro on mobs but nowhere near high enough to not feel part of the zone. Jumping off a high spot would make it work as a glider and give you a controllable, even straight glide down. at first highest riding skill would be unchanged. After a while they could see if it was a popular idea, if so they could implement it for the higher riding skills as well.
You forgot the horrible LFR system. and the "i can queue and enter a dungeon with just ONE button" instead of getting a group and run to them :)
I don't think Blizzard has any problems with lfg/r, and you still (again) have to get a group and run to them
just wow got em
Sebastian öster Lmao!!! How is it horrible? You dont have to fucking use it. You can Group up and fucking RP walk to anything you want. No one is making you do a God damn thing. You're another fucking neck beard mouth breather that thinks your way to play is the only way. Get fucked.
Timothy Jahn wow someome got really butthurt of someone that has ANOTHER opinion then himself! haha this is anarci! cant help your that bad at the game that you need blizz to hand you free epics hahaha xD
I believe they've even said themselves that they should have put only flex-mode in the game in stead of LFR.
Caladan.... ahhhh, I got it! ;)
"I'll miss the sea, but a man needs new experiences. They jar something deep within' - allowing him to grow. Without change: something sleeps inside us and seldom awakens... The sleeper must awaken!" -Duke Leto Atreides
1. cata
2. MoP
3. WoD
4. pet battles
5. ilvl scaling
agree with everything but number 5. ilvl scaling changes almost nothing
Gotta have me a good lasagna ok replace 5. with toc
Robert Boehme i personally enjoyed MoP... and in honestly not alone in that... it was, overall, one of the best expansions... (yes there was some problems with it but there was problems with every expansion, so.. ╮(╯_╰)╭ )
Agree with 3 and 5.
MoP was one of best expansions we ever had and Pet Battles are an amazing feature, took at least 100 hours of my time alone.
The sole and only reason for the attempted removal of flight is and was "The speed at which content is consumed". The end.
For legendaries, I would like it to return to the loot table like in BC. Mythic only. I barely play wow though, but if it was like that, when you see someone with a legendary, you would be-... You know. Impressed. Remember that? Seeing people with something crazy powerful and being impressed? It had that unique model and appearance and you knew what it was right away. You see that Night Elf Rogue in Alterac Valley running at you with the twin warglaives and you flee for your life.
I would also okay with solving the various mechanical problems of legendaries by having them not as gear slot items, but, function as cosmetics or similar things : kinda like the green fire drop. That way you have the excitement of it dropping, you get something thats super cool and wont be going anyway any time soon, but don't have to deal with all the mechanical problems that come with a super strong item.
Plus, on a selfish note, i care far more about bitching cosmetics and unique appearance/animation stuff than output. This is personal opinion here, but to me gear is a means to an end to complete more content, and id rather the legendary's were outside that cycle and felt a reward in and of themselves. Personal taste entirely here though.
There is a new one : Trying to go back to the leveling system in classic wow Patch 3.7.5