Early adopter here, working on video editing and color grading very smoothly. What I do is: first, I still use window 10. There's no benefits at the moment to move to 11. Second, I'm using DDR4 memory, DDR5 is not great yet and expensive. Third, I use mainly Davinvi Resolve, dont thrust Adobe any more. 12th gen is really powerful! 👍
Ah, not to mention temps on 12700k as well. On 5800X with NH-D15 Chromax i had like 65-70 degrees on games, with negative curves ofc. On 12700k i have like 45-55 on same game i play with NH-U12A chromax black. So happy with it
@@aureliandumitru8382 its actually really surprising how hot the 5800x is. I dont understand why, but my 3900xt is easier to keep cool than the 5800x. I have tested both.
So sorry to hear about all the issues you've had. I've just made a new build with a 12700k, MSI Z690 Carbon, 32GB DDR5 and Windows 11 Pro. I've genuinely had almost no issues at all. The only one I can think of is a single failure of MSI centre to initialise properly on boot causing some excessive fan noise.
I'm never beta testing for Microsoft and Intel at the same time... I'll just wait plus I got a 5800x not too long ago and I'm more than sure it will keep up for the next 4 years or so no problem.
Early adopter here - I pre-ordered my 12900k and it was shipped on 5th of Nov. alongside with my DDR5 board and DDR5 kit. Now I've bought my second Alder Lake CPU an 12700k with the same DDR5 motherboard and another pair of DDR5 kit other frequency and CAS. Both systems are using Windows 11 and they are very stable. I work on both systems and also gaming on them in my spare time. I had no issues with these two systems while I was games or while I was doing my daily work activity. So who's saying that Z690 platform with DDR5 running Windows 11 is not stable is lying or didn't have one.
@@vme23 Agreed. 12700kf here and it's rock solid. I don't believe the stories about power use and heat are valid either. My temps are lower with the 12700k doing tasks in Cubase and Photoshop, and gaming, than they were on my old 15 4670k.
I went with the ASUS TUF and fast (relatively) cheap DDR4 and the 12700K. In a year or so I will upgrade to a DDR5 platform, when the prices have normalised and bugs ironed out.
Let’s wait the next gen motherboards from intel and don’t forget ryzen will launch his new hardware compatible for DDR5, intel isn’t the only one option, the wait worth it more than upgrading right now
Hi, now that we are a few months into DDR5, is this problem still here or has it been resolved? I'm considering building a new system for video editing. DDR4 or DDR5?
I’m an early adopter too i9 12900kf. Went with ddr4 since ddr5 is really hard to come by. My motherboard is an Asus TUF Z690 and I also had issues with RAM. Lots of WHEA errors in Event Viewer. All the games I play are also stuttering, this combo is paired with a 3080ti and the ddr4 memory is (2) 32GB sticks. The frustration is REAL!
The problems you are talking about are real, but they are to be expected. Every time they go to a totally new CPU architecture these problems always come up. They will get the problems worked out eventually. I remember when the Pentium 4 with hyperthreading came out, games and software ran worse with the new processors until they worked out all the bugs. So yeah if you are a content creator and your livelihood comes from the content you create, now is not the time to upgrade to 12th gen Intel. Let the hardware and software companies workout all the bugs first!
I just recently bought a z690 and 12700k combo and I haven’t had the chance to build it because my motherboard only supports DDR5 memory so by the time I have the chance to build it, hopefully, all early adopter problems would have eventually passed
It's worth the wait. I run the same combo with a 12700K. Got it because its single core performance is almost the same as the 12900K but with much lower temps and power use. I had to wait 4 weeks for the 2 DDR5 Fury Beast RAM modules to arrive, but it was so worth it. Great system. You won't regret your choice once the DDR5 modules are in better supply, which I read will be in the next few weeks.
@@hackneymarshes thanks for the re-assurance! My dad is giving me DDR5 modules for Christmas but it’s not yet in stock. Probably going to wait until Late January or Early February of next year to purchase them. Super excited for the amount of performance Imm getting from my other PC (a laptop with a 1065g7)! I do heavy video editing with lots of effects and having opened Pr, AE, and Ps opened at the same time with 8gb modules is NOT a fun time.
@@empanada420 we are in hard times with pc hardware worldwide…sucks a lot Only wealthy people can afford parts for a ridiculous price and doesn’t make sense at all considering the MRSP it’s way lower…everything because of scalpers
Another early adopter, I went with an I9 K’ed chip and for some reason my ddr5 kit wasn’t working, until I found out that there was a chip missing from one stick of my DDR5 memory, it’s working “fine” now, with the occasional blue screen
12900K i9 running Pro Tools HDX and experiencing regular crashes to Pro Tools. DDR5 still running way below its max cycle rate. Very frustrating and basically has put me way behind where I was before upgrading. Buying new tech for content creators is just not worth the risk.
glad u mentioned the memory compatibility issues. Out of the box , for me , every ddr5 mobo running at lowest possible speed , any modifications & system would not boot. Same thing can be said about ddr4. Compatibility is limited. & out of the box , DDR4 runs at 2133. After bios update , was possible to go up to 3733 for me , 4 modules. I’ve given up on Xmp , for now at least. Stable max for DDR4 so far for me has been 3600. Running 4x8 GB G. Skill 4400 modules. Please note that these are not listed in the list of compatible modules for the used motherboard. Here theres plenty of ddr5 available , but if you look on the support section for lets say asus rog motherboards , only one of them is listed as compatible & that one being the 4800 CL40 type module. 4 modules is indeed not great , the old rules seem to apply here. 4 modules for workstations , 2 for efficiency & stability. Preferably a two slot motherboard too then for that matter. I’ve only been using Win 10 so far , reason being is the creator aspect you mentioned. Which is a pretty solid factor indeed. Besides that , 12th gen & Z690 boards seem to be working very well. Have only been using 12900K so far. Temperatures with proper ventilation & just air cooling alone make my system run like a fridge. Very impressed by that. Looks promising , very promising. Only thing I’ve been noticing is that my file explorer seems to be bricked , but odds are my drive is to blame for that. Lastly , only heat I’m ever seeing is the VRM or chipset , cpu running at 5400 mhz , 35°C , not heavy load , but still. Those are great numbers.
@@AjayCoding I think that’s about the best thing you can do at the moment. Good power delivery motherboard , 2x16gb ddr4 with the speed you’re looking to get , and check memory compatibility per board on the website of the manufacturer. Just keep these things in mind : - good power delivery motherboard - 1 dimm per channel (preferably 16gb per dimm) - check motherboard manufacturer for compatibility with the ram you’re planning to get
In regards to the ram issues I would not even bother with DDR5 at the moment, just stick with DDR4 if considering the move to Alder Lake. Once supplies stabilize and all the bugs get worked out then it might make sense but I don't see that happening for awhile. If thunderbolt is really important there's always add in cards. When you mentioned system stability of the the bios plays a huge factor. MSI appears to have the most stable bios at the moment out of all the manufacturers at least as far as DDR4 is concerned.
I’m sorry to say my problems with Adobe Premiere Pro began with Creative Suite 4. I have a seven year old PC, which I couldn’t use Adobe Premiere Pro to export the final product. Or rather, once the export process was done, the final video would vanish from the output folder. I could see it in the recent file view, but it wouldn’t open or appear in the folder itself.
There is a huge memory leak in the Intel UWD display drivers that were fixed by Intel, but Dell has yet to release their customized drivers for their machines. The latest Intel Dell Windows UWD display driver updates were in July of last year. You can actually see this in the task manager. The dell drivers can use up to a Gb of memory when they should be using a few hundred k!
I feel like intel is just trying to make up for losing Apple by getting Microsoft onboard. They’re just looking at Apple like “see this is what you’re missing out on” as if Apple gives a crap. They stated awhile ago that getting Apple back on board is something they will be striving for. Which doesn’t make sense since intel did nothing but hurt Apple both in stability and give up proprietary hardware to the hackintosh community (which I loved). Plus Apple is already on 5nm and intel is just barely on 10nm.
Thanks for doing this TN because I thought about Alderlake, but as usual with new tech, it’s always better to wait until it’s fleshed out. We went through this with ddr3 vs ddr4 and it took about two years in each with ram prices, compatibility and availability to make the platforms stable. I will stick with my Amd 5950x for the moment, although Intel is really making their CPU prices highly competitive at the low to highend with Intel and the 12700k and 12900k look interesting. I have to have a stable platform for my work.
I have a 12700kf. Absolutely no reason I can think of why you would even consider changing from AMD to Intel. They do exactly the same job just in a slightly different way.
@@tdunster2011 That consideration was before I bought the 5950x because I owned the 3700 at that time, which was sold. I already owned ddr4 ram, which I would have reused, so the only thing that I would have had to buy would have been the board and chip and really, either the Alderlake Intel chip or the 5950x would have been free for me, due to a very special deal. So, the board would have been my only expense if going Intel and no expense at all staying with Amd.
Just built a 12700f system for 3D rendering and I had to downclock my RAM from 3600 cl18 to 3200 cl16c to keep W11 from crashing mid render My problem is mostly windows 11 issues but everything else has been great so far
@@snowcat2989 Z690-A PRO and Corsair LPX - quite shockingly, this particular RAM of mine is not in the QVL but it has been working fine ever since I downclocked it
Bought a 12700k together with with an msi z690 edge ddr4 motherboard. Very happy with it,board is having quite goid features,the 2.5gb ethernet connection is more than enough for me.I will stick with it for a couple years.I do believe a high end ddr4 kit will not be a lot slower than a ddr5 one and at the monent ddr5 has stability issues and prices are way to high,cost more than a 12th gen processor.
My Intel 6950x is still kicking ass at 4.4 GHz all core , only about 8% behind a 10900k so I'm still good for a while , I'll upgrade Intel 13th gen when some of the issues are ironed out
I have that frequently crashing problem with Windows 10... it was rooting memory management errors. It was a dying ram stick. Replaced (same brand and specs) but cheaper, it's now throwing me 'page fault in nonpaged area'... I should've kept Win7 when they ended support, just for a while longer...
And then there's the chance that with all those DDR5/PCIe5/W11 aspects Adler brings, while possibly a future of computing once we start to get Gen5 SSDs and DDR5 high capacity DIMMs become available at those 6GHz speeds at good prices and at great quantities, the expected CES reveal of 3D V-Cache Ryzens still using AM4 and DDR4 and PCIe4, along with possibly very high pricing of the "5" products Intel now supports that may also be introduced soon, may tip the balance towards the AMD products for the budget minded...
There's been a bug with the update license function in the latest build of win10. Go with a fresh install if you get an error message and it should work fine.
I just bought the ProArt board and am planning on going with a similar setup as this. I'm a little worried now... Are all of these issues software problems that will be fixed through future updates or hardware problems that will be fixed through future models?
Looking for cpu recommendations: Just starting to look into putting together a new system and there are so many choices, that it's really quite confusing.. I'm still using I7 3770 (non k) that I've had forever, (but which still gets the job done)..so I imagine even 10th or 11th gen would be a huge upgrade.. I'm a photograqpher.. Lightroom/Photoshop.. Fuji 24 MP cameras editing raw files .. portrait stuff, skin retouching etc, (no panoramas, stitching large files, 3D etc).. almost no video (except personal/family stuff.. no 4K, no gaming).. My budget could handle up to an i7 12700k.. and on the low end of what I'm considering would be 10th generation i5.. (of which there seem to be about 9 variations 10400, 10400f, 10500, 10600 etc).. I'm looking for bang for the buck: fuctionality over bragging rights..I neither want to be cheap about my cpu, nor overspend when money saved could be better used on RAM, storage etc.. any suggestions/recommendations would be greatly appreciated
I'm running a 12600k (with DDR4) and the latest Adobe versions, and both Premiere Pro and After Effects crash every time I close the programs. I had that issue before version 22.x and thought the update would fix it, but it's still happening. I don't actually have any problems while using the programs (other than the occasional freeze for a few seconds, not sure why that is), I just get the crash-screen each time I close the programs.
Agree (I7 12700k and I have to go back from 11 to Windows 10 because of stability issues). But one more thing - COOLING. There are almost absolutely no coolers dedicated for LGA 1700 - and this is a BIG issue for those hot CPUs. Buying AlderLake now will give you very small, and very poor choice of cooling.
12700kf here using Lian Li 360 AIO. I'm 4c above ambient browsing web and watching videos. Jumps to 20c above ambient playing Valorant Online. I have Six 120mm inlet and three 120mm exhaust fans - all running at minimum speed - ramping up to 900rpm or so playing games.
some manufacturer have an adaptor for their products....finding lga 1700 compatible cooler is a pain in the ass but you can still go for the few added ones from compatibility kits i personally went for an Arctic Freezer 34 eSports duo for my upcoming build...it has a lga 1700 mounting kit you can buy with it or separated ( hard to find )....and speaking of that the only one i saw was the last one on Amazon...and i bought it
I have a DRAM issue. The system didn't post when the RAM was installed on DIMM A2B2 or A1B1 slots. It can't recognize DIMM A). It can't set up the dual channel. Lastest BIOS. I have tried three different new mobos from the different brands B to Z, Two new CPUs i5-12600k, and two different DDR4 RAM(on the support list)... 12 gen = buggy gen. Very disappointed.
Damn.....after watching one of your videos, I've pretty much got your exact setup, with a couple of exceptions (case/psu/3080TI). It's still in bits as I am waiting to get the graphics card but.....this video did not make my day. I messed up and got three Seagate 530 sticks, but they had the heatsink on, which does not fit onto the motherboard. I went back onto Amazon to get the 530s without the heatsink, but when I went onto the page to buy them - it said once, and in small print "510" (in between all of the 530 material, which was nice of them), so I've gone for the Samsung Pros. But this whole thing with the memory is a concern....I'll let you know how it goes.
It's not beta testing, it's just a lot of new tech as per your bullet list. All ofa this is new, including PCIe 5.0. You cannot keep testing technology before shipping it to the market until all bugs are found. After decades of professional software development, I know bugs are a fact of life because at the end of the day, we are all human. I cannot spot any major bugs in my 12700K and ASUS ProArt Z690 setup. If anything, it's proven to be rock solid. No random restarts. No blue screens. No overheating. I am glad Intel and Asus shipped this new tech instead of withholding it and testing it more in-house.
Hi I am wondering if there is any difference in boot speed between ryzen and intel in 2022. I own a ryzen 3600 CPU and I notice some days boot speed can take longer than others. When I had an intel CPU the boot speed always remained the same and consistent. I also notice some random performance drop for a few second when I'm using Adobe software. Overall it's making me intel would give me smoother performance but I don't know if I will be wasting my money.
Mmh, I'm running Asus Mobo TUF Gaming Z690 with i9-12900k (little oc to 52x) with 4 sticks of DDR4 Corsair 3200mhz (64GB) on Win 11. The Bios is in XMP (1600mhz) mode and I've no crash or BSOD since 1 month now, in daily use of Adobe, Visual Studio and gaming. For now, I'm using a basic RTX-3060Ti card.
@@dovahkingqcclips6913 that's because AMD benefits from having more Ram with how much L3 cache is in Ryzen, Intel only recently finally caught up. but i had Skylake before my current Ryzen 5700X build, and i had 4 sticks 4gb each 16gb total, it worked ok. people do say using all 4 can sometimes lead to issues, but i can say i didn't experience much of that. i never used all 4 before, so when i got on Skylake at the time it was something i wanted to try. it worked out ok, but it was a one time thing.
Has there been any updates after 3 months now, or is still buggy ? Im was planning to buy kf processor and went around enquiring in market for best price, after watching your video i was like oh god😅 this guy saved me from s**t. Thanks a lot for 12900K and KF video though. So if u could tell hows the status of ddr5 ? Ill buy based on what u have there, else ill stick with my DDR4 for now.
In terms of 4x sticks of DDR5 + XMP, still very flaky... I'd recommend 2x the capacity you want like 2x 32GB and you're all good. What I'd recommend is to buy into the DDR5 platform since all the best motherboards are DDR5 and buy low end DDR5 like the crucial ones and then when software bios and DDR5 improves, upgrade your RAM :)
Hey with Intel 11th gen with ddr4 running Adobe Illustrator, I also run more stable with 2 sticks of ram with xmp enabled at 3200mhz compared to 4 with xmp enabled. However, Illustrator is stable at 2666mhz with 4 sticks. It's weird.
just bought a 12900k and z690 Msi MPG EDGE wifi ddr4 board, got corsair dominator platinum rgb 32gb 3600mhz c14 Samsung B die ram with a 3070 TI evga ftw3 ultra, just a question upgrade to win11 for gaming or stick to win 10 pro??? many say win11 to get full advantage out of the cores of 12900k
I don't watch your vids but this video clears things up allot and is everything I wanted to know thanks it's unfortunate I found a motherboard I like but its ddr5 only im thinking a single stick until everything gets updated to work better in unison
Running 12th gen on two computers, Inspiron and XPS desktops. Lots of issues. Crashing, freezing. Audio problems: can't stream music without stutter, crackling. I don't have the audio problems on Gen 11 Win 11 laptop, or my old Windows 10 laptop. Constant Windows updates; it almost seems like they released it prematurely. Also, tried putting an ASUS GT730 graphics cards in the Inspiron (has GDDDR5 Ram) and that caused hardware errors and crashes galore (to be fair the PSU wasn't rated for the card, but even just web browsing or email and it would crash).
@@domasberulis Sorry for slow reply, still have stability issues with crashes, but not nearly as frequently. Seems like a Windows 11 is starting to become more stable, but still very regular updates. I think the audio problem was related to the Amazon music app, perhaps not being compatible with external DACs. I think it was fixed recently, or was possibly related to having the volume equalizer on in the amazon music app. I think processor is fine.
so i bought a z690 asus motherboard along with the intel i9 cpu and with some ddr5 ram…we installed everything and i get a blue screen that mentions AMD drivers (i had an amd cpu before) so i removed the amd files from my main ssd & it still gives the same message…is there anyway to fix this?
Do any of you Alder Lake users have experience with music software and not just video editing or games? How well is your 12700k or 12900K working in software like Ableton Live? I'd like to build a system with a 12700K and DDR4.
Yes. I run Cubase, Amplitube 5, Syntronk 2, tRacks5..and various other software for recording. MSI Pro z690 ddr 4 wifi motherboard. There is a C1E type issue running without a ground lift on the DI Box. When ground lift isn't engaged any powered speaker with a 3 pin plug makes the speaker emit a buzzing / clicking noise [think ground loop] when moving the mouse. Once the ground lift is enabled on the DI box it's perfect. It was a similar issue with Z590 and X570 for a few people as well.
For stability purposes would you recommend Windows 10 or 11 OS for an Alder Lake CPU and DDR5 memory? I would be using it for Lightroom, Photoshop, and DaVinci Resolve.
@Zeno_fr there are stability problems on the creative apps with Win11. The recommendation is to stick with Win10 and wait out until all issues are resolved with Win11.
The issues are resolved, literally 1 minor bug and it got fixed last night, I’ve been using windows 11 for the past 2 weeks with I9 12, 3090 ddr5 and works like a charm, ignore these Linux users, they just can’t move into the future
I have started ordering components for an Intel 12th Gen rig, starting with a Core i9 12900K cpu and an EVGA NVIDIA Geforce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming vid card. I'm still researching the DDR5 vs DDR4 issues, but will probably go with DDR5 ecc memory. I'll be using Windows 11 Pro, (hopefully they will patch it up in the near future to catch up to the demands of users across the board). I am a low level creator on UA-cam, but I getting ready to ramp up my channel. I'm gearing up for up to 4K editing and viewing, ( I already use home theater with 5.1 surround), I'm a gamer, and sometimes multitasker. I am also a wannabe guitar player/multiple instrument musician and will be running recording software also. I will let you know if I have any particular issues in my endeavors, (besides the already established ecc latency vs data security, etc...), as I encounter them. I am currently using Adobe editing software, (2018 version), but that may change as I try to evolve upward.
@@zerg47 Hello, my new PC is up and running very nicely. The rig includes an Intel Core i9 12900K, ASUS ROG Strix Z690-E Motherboard, ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360 AIO liquid cpu cooler, EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra video card, Corsair 32GB, (2X16 DIMMS), DDR5 non ecc memory, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB 4th Gen SSD, two Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB 3rd Gen SSD's, Windows 11 Pro, Corsair 5000D Airflow case, LG C1 55" OLED 4K display, and Logitech Z906 THX 1000 WATT/500 WATT RMS 5.1 surround sound system, and RAZER, NAGA Trinity mouse. I was not able to go with the ecc style DDR5 as the motherboard did not support it. I'm actually glad I did not as the latency was higher, although I would have liked the security of the data write checking. The rig showed 4K display @120 fps settings. It runs fantastic. The 360 AIO keeps the cpu nice and cool and the fans are quiet to me. I am still configuring and loading software. I still have my other work pc and am taking my time setting up the new one. Watching movies is quite awesome with the big 4K display and 5.1 surround. I now need a nice recliner, hahahaha. I have to load the video editing software, the new music studio software. I have a new SONNUS i2M musicport MIDI and Hi-Z USB audio interface to be able to run my electric guitars, singing microphone, and other musical equipment to record on the studio software. The only issue I have encountered is trying to watch 4K DVD's. I have a Pioneer BDR-XS07UHD external optical disc player/writer, supposedly capable of writing and playing 4K. When I try to watch a 4K DVD movie, I get an error. I am trying to analyze and find an answer to that. I can watch 4K from UA-cam OK. I think it is a copyright issue on the DVD's so you can't burn copies of 4K. I will also will be trying some 4K editing from my GoPro cameras to see if there is any issues. I have Cyberlink Power DVD 21 Ultra software supposedly capable of playing 4K. I am going to call Intel, ASUS, and Pioneer to try to solve the issue. If I can edit and write 4K to disc, then watch my video from disc, the issue is definitely copyright, and probably circumventable. I don't want to burn illegal copies of movies, I buy them to own and just want to watch them on my 5,500.00 freaking computer and display, hahahaha. I do like my new rig and will be flexing it more as time goes on. I have not loaded any games yet but I'm sure it will handle any on the market, and what I already own, including m HTC Vive VR stuff.
So... i love your vids but I think it's pretty disingenuous to say "the whole operating system is new" regarding Windows 11. Everything I've seen and used points to *literally* no changes outside the scheduler and the UI. In fact I'd put money on at least 90% of the 16-bit boat-anchor code that was (just as ridiculously) still being dragged around in Windows 10, still being in Windows 11. lol
I have the i9 12900k with a Asus z690m d4 and 64gb ram ddr4, xmp works 🤷♂️ But I had many issues with this new sistem. It looks like it started to work better in the last times.
Going to the edge of the newest hardwares + OS + softwares always lead to some issues that to me are mostly based on misunderstandings. Those hardwares and softwares Guru's heads needs to sits around a table... and TALK to each others... show down all systems projects. Only this can give us a real stable new platform!
If you didn’t know you can activate windows with one minute of your time 100% free. Even called up Microsoft to confirm my activation is legit and they confirmed they found no issues with it. So the command prompt method is flawless and I’ll never have to pay for windows again XD. Anyway off that topic my 12700kf has had no faults that I can find, everything has been flawless.
I was not expecting this ram issues... remembers me when I bought some of the first 32GB sticks DDR4 2 years ago where only Crucial modules worked fine. I'll upgrade platform when 128GB sticks (256 kits) are out :))
i know you simply mean you won't upgrade for a while but... 256gb ram is extremely excessive if you compare to what you need for casual and gaming load... having 200 wikipedia pages open at the same time is overly exagerated
Hello! I have rock solid experience with G.Skill Royal hand made chips(samsung b-die), on my perfect MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4, running with no issues, like as my 12900K and RTX 3080 TI OC, everything perfectly fine, just lower voltage on 12900K, now im air cooled, with 49$ cooler, lol, ID-Cooling SE 226 XT(250 w TDP)...5000mhz on 1.234v at full load(LLC 6+ adaptive and negative offset by 20 mv), very happy with my setup, cheers, and best regards...Thx for the review, about 12900K and air coolers;) BTW, my VRM never goes above 50c....Perfect Mobo...👍
Still running Win 10 and will do so for time being due stability. Ps. please secure your table, now it wobbles like something is going give up soon ;o)
It's not that complicated. Both AMD and Intel make great products. Choose either and be happy. The incremental differences between running memory at3200, 4200 or 5000 are not even perceivable. Stop benchmarking and start using your computers people. My 12700kf is doing very well. No crashes and no heat issues. The only problem is a grounding issue which appears only when using powered speakers without a ground lift on the DI Box. The X570 and Z590 had similar issues related to C1E or Computer Enhanced Halt. Once I work out the equivalent adjustment in z690 bios I think it will be a perfect system for my Cubase productivity.
@@theTechNotice There's a difference sure but 64gb DDR5 memory kits in Australia are $900 compared to $350 for good reliable DDR4 ones. It's simply money better spent elsewhere on more Samsung M.2 980 Pro drives or plugins. For video editing maybe it's worth it - but for me DDR5 just isn't enough of a jump in performance for me to notice without resorting to a benchmark.
The thing I find ridiculous is that MS promoted the update as an increase in security due to virtualizing processes and yet when you complete an upgrade from 10 to 11 the VBS functionality in the control panel remains disabled!
I think I have the same desk, Ikea very light desk plate, and it wobbles like mine , little disturbing by watching but overall your channel is good as always. 🙃
There is nothing at all wrong with the chip I have been using it for over a month now no issues what so ever. Just stay off Windows 11 for now. Also run the chip on DDR 4. The thing moves faster then a bad smell. No need for Win 11 or DDR 5. Wait a year or more for Microshaft to get all the bugs out and maybe the DDR 5 will drop in price. However I see no reason to ever go to a DDR 5 board. The chip is stinking fast on a DDR 4 board.
12900k if you are gamer or editor beast smooth with 100% ddr4 128gb not ddr5 not yet so many issue and there price is crazy. If you want 12th gen make sure the mother board is ddr4 i have and works perfect with no issue. WINDOWS 11 pro,,,
Who hates to loose their progress and do it again, and again, it's just the worst! 🙈
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@@dashinggamerz9236 I know this person is give in next video 🎥 shoutout because this is very honest man 😇
Early adopter here, working on video editing and color grading very smoothly. What I do is: first, I still use window 10. There's no benefits at the moment to move to 11. Second, I'm using DDR4 memory, DDR5 is not great yet and expensive. Third, I use mainly Davinvi Resolve, dont thrust Adobe any more. 12th gen is really powerful! 👍
Early adopter here as well! Screw W11 at the moment, im a gamer, went with 12700k, DDR 4 and W10. Deff way better than my former 5800X!
Not really worth the upgrade to be honest. 5800x would be fine for a few generations.
Ah, not to mention temps on 12700k as well. On 5800X with NH-D15 Chromax i had like 65-70 degrees on games, with negative curves ofc. On 12700k i have like 45-55 on same game i play with NH-U12A chromax black. So happy with it
@@aureliandumitru8382 nh-u12a is a beast and cheaper that aio and better
@@aureliandumitru8382 its actually really surprising how hot the 5800x is. I dont understand why, but my 3900xt is easier to keep cool than the 5800x. I have tested both.
running 12900k with ddr4 3200mhz and a gtx 1080, very stable system no issues so far ( been only 3 weeks )
Seems like ddr4 is more stable than ddr5.
What mother board you go with?
Which cooler did yo go with? Good set up btw
@a_123 yea still fine :), need a good cooler tho
@@sebasosorio9084 1080, good setup? with a 12900x? lmao, absolute overkill
So sorry to hear about all the issues you've had. I've just made a new build with a 12700k, MSI Z690 Carbon, 32GB DDR5 and Windows 11 Pro. I've genuinely had almost no issues at all. The only one I can think of is a single failure of MSI centre to initialise properly on boot causing some excessive fan noise.
I always support ❤ you 😊
I'm never beta testing for Microsoft and Intel at the same time... I'll just wait plus I got a 5800x not too long ago and I'm more than sure it will keep up for the next 4 years or so no problem.
Early adopter here - I pre-ordered my 12900k and it was shipped on 5th of Nov. alongside with my DDR5 board and DDR5 kit. Now I've bought my second Alder Lake CPU an 12700k with the same DDR5 motherboard and another pair of DDR5 kit other frequency and CAS.
Both systems are using Windows 11 and they are very stable. I work on both systems and also gaming on them in my spare time. I had no issues with these two systems while I was games or while I was doing my daily work activity.
So who's saying that Z690 platform with DDR5 running Windows 11 is not stable is lying or didn't have one.
@@vme23 Agreed. 12700kf here and it's rock solid. I don't believe the stories about power use and heat are valid either. My temps are lower with the 12700k doing tasks in Cubase and Photoshop, and gaming, than they were on my old 15 4670k.
That happens with all new hardware, everytime, and it will happen every time
I agree with you, it’s super logic haha
I went with the ASUS TUF and fast (relatively) cheap DDR4 and the 12700K. In a year or so I will upgrade to a DDR5 platform, when the prices have normalised and bugs ironed out.
Let’s wait the next gen motherboards from intel and don’t forget ryzen will launch his new hardware compatible for DDR5, intel isn’t the only one option, the wait worth it more than upgrading right now
can i have the old pc ddr4 is good for the price right now ddr5 is a scame right now no games need that much power yet
Hi, now that we are a few months into DDR5, is this problem still here or has it been resolved? I'm considering building a new system for video editing. DDR4 or DDR5?
I’m an early adopter too i9 12900kf. Went with ddr4 since ddr5 is really hard to come by. My motherboard is an Asus TUF Z690 and I also had issues with RAM. Lots of WHEA errors in Event Viewer. All the games I play are also stuttering, this combo is paired with a 3080ti and the ddr4 memory is (2) 32GB sticks. The frustration is REAL!
On Windows 11 or win10? Why there are issues, it should be a power plant :D
In this cases u shuld. check your ram configuration. There is different performance ram cards, that may cause this type of issues
I like your lighting set-up. Very nice Creamy soft warm light with blue and orange two opposite color in background ❤️❤️
The problems you are talking about are real, but they are to be expected. Every time they go to a totally new CPU architecture these problems always come up. They will get the problems worked out eventually. I remember when the Pentium 4 with hyperthreading came out, games and software ran worse with the new processors until they worked out all the bugs.
So yeah if you are a content creator and your livelihood comes from the content you create, now is not the time to upgrade to 12th gen Intel. Let the hardware and software companies workout all the bugs first!
I just recently bought a z690 and 12700k combo and I haven’t had the chance to build it because my motherboard only supports DDR5 memory so by the time I have the chance to build it, hopefully, all early adopter problems would have eventually passed
It's worth the wait. I run the same combo with a 12700K. Got it because its single core performance is almost the same as the 12900K but with much lower temps and power use. I had to wait 4 weeks for the 2 DDR5 Fury Beast RAM modules to arrive, but it was so worth it. Great system. You won't regret your choice once the DDR5 modules are in better supply, which I read will be in the next few weeks.
@@hackneymarshes thanks for the re-assurance! My dad is giving me DDR5 modules for Christmas but it’s not yet in stock. Probably going to wait until Late January or Early February of next year to purchase them. Super excited for the amount of performance Imm getting from my other PC (a laptop with a 1065g7)! I do heavy video editing with lots of effects and having opened Pr, AE, and Ps opened at the same time with 8gb modules is NOT a fun time.
@@empanada420 we are in hard times with pc hardware worldwide…sucks a lot
Only wealthy people can afford parts for a ridiculous price and doesn’t make sense at all considering the MRSP it’s way lower…everything because of scalpers
Another early adopter, I went with an I9 K’ed chip and for some reason my ddr5 kit wasn’t working, until I found out that there was a chip missing from one stick of my DDR5 memory, it’s working “fine” now, with the occasional blue screen
12900K i9 running Pro Tools HDX and experiencing regular crashes to Pro Tools. DDR5 still running way below its max cycle rate. Very frustrating and basically has put me way behind where I was before upgrading. Buying new tech for content creators is just not worth the risk.
Has that been resolved yet?
Useful video 🎥 ☺
glad u mentioned the memory compatibility issues. Out of the box , for me , every ddr5 mobo running at lowest possible speed , any modifications & system would not boot. Same thing can be said about ddr4. Compatibility is limited. & out of the box , DDR4 runs at 2133. After bios update , was possible to go up to 3733 for me , 4 modules. I’ve given up on Xmp , for now at least. Stable max for DDR4 so far for me has been 3600. Running 4x8 GB G. Skill 4400 modules. Please note that these are not listed in the list of compatible modules for the used motherboard. Here theres plenty of ddr5 available , but if you look on the support section for lets say asus rog motherboards , only one of them is listed as compatible & that one being the 4800 CL40 type module.
4 modules is indeed not great , the old rules seem to apply here. 4 modules for workstations , 2 for efficiency & stability. Preferably a two slot motherboard too then for that matter.
I’ve only been using Win 10 so far , reason being is the creator aspect you mentioned. Which is a pretty solid factor indeed.
Besides that , 12th gen & Z690 boards seem to be working very well. Have only been using 12900K so far. Temperatures with proper ventilation & just air cooling alone make my system run like a fridge. Very impressed by that. Looks promising , very promising.
Only thing I’ve been noticing is that my file explorer seems to be bricked , but odds are my drive is to blame for that.
Lastly , only heat I’m ever seeing is the VRM or chipset , cpu running at 5400 mhz , 35°C , not heavy load , but still. Those are great numbers.
I just wish they made high end motherboards with DDR4
Mr.marcel...can i build 12600k & z690 ddr4 suppoted MB...? is that works well??
@@AjayCoding I think that’s about the best thing you can do at the moment. Good power delivery motherboard , 2x16gb ddr4 with the speed you’re looking to get , and check memory compatibility per board on the website of the manufacturer. Just keep these things in mind :
- good power delivery motherboard
- 1 dimm per channel (preferably 16gb per dimm)
- check motherboard manufacturer for compatibility with the ram you’re planning to get
@@marcelforrel thanks...alot
@@AjayCoding any idea on what motherboard & ram you plan on getting?
Hi Bro, Does Adobe Premiere pro use resizable bar? :)
I have 0 issues so far. My system runs very smooth.
Can you share your specs? thank you
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Outstanding info! Glad I chose DDR4 for the new build. Next build will be around 2026 with DDRX. Happy Holidays!
In regards to the ram issues I would not even bother with DDR5 at the moment, just stick with DDR4 if considering the move to Alder Lake. Once supplies stabilize and all the bugs get worked out then it might make sense but I don't see that happening for awhile. If thunderbolt is really important there's always add in cards. When you mentioned system stability of the the bios plays a huge factor. MSI appears to have the most stable bios at the moment out of all the manufacturers at least as far as DDR4 is concerned.
I’m sorry to say my problems with Adobe Premiere Pro began with Creative Suite 4. I have a seven year old PC, which I couldn’t use Adobe Premiere Pro to export the final product. Or rather, once the export process was done, the final video would vanish from the output folder. I could see it in the recent file view, but it wouldn’t open or appear in the folder itself.
There is a huge memory leak in the Intel UWD display drivers that were fixed by Intel, but Dell has yet to release their customized drivers for their machines. The latest Intel Dell Windows UWD display driver updates were in July of last year. You can actually see this in the task manager. The dell drivers can use up to a Gb of memory when they should be using a few hundred k!
I went with the 12000k thinking I’ll get the las test and greatest and I’ve had nothing but stability problems
I feel like intel is just trying to make up for losing Apple by getting Microsoft onboard. They’re just looking at Apple like “see this is what you’re missing out on” as if Apple gives a crap. They stated awhile ago that getting Apple back on board is something they will be striving for. Which doesn’t make sense since intel did nothing but hurt Apple both in stability and give up proprietary hardware to the hackintosh community (which I loved). Plus Apple is already on 5nm and intel is just barely on 10nm.
Thanks for doing this TN because I thought about Alderlake, but as usual with new tech, it’s always better to wait until it’s fleshed out. We went through this with ddr3 vs ddr4 and it took about two years in each with ram prices, compatibility and availability to make the platforms stable.
I will stick with my Amd 5950x for the moment, although Intel is really making their CPU prices highly competitive at the low to highend with Intel and the 12700k and 12900k look interesting. I have to have a stable platform for my work.
I have a 12700kf. Absolutely no reason I can think of why you would even consider changing from AMD to Intel. They do exactly the same job just in a slightly different way.
@@tdunster2011 That consideration was before I bought the 5950x because I owned the 3700 at that time, which was sold. I already owned ddr4 ram, which I would have reused, so the only thing that I would have had to buy would have been the board and chip and really, either the Alderlake Intel chip or the 5950x would have been free for me, due to a very special deal. So, the board would have been my only expense if going Intel and no expense at all staying with Amd.
Yytirtay try dog. Hiccup.
@@ethanbrookes2013 Huh......................what are you saying...............????
@@sidvicious3129 oh man. I have no idea. It think my kid got my phone. 🤣
There is something called system updates that handles these issues that any new operating system may face
Just built a 12700f system for 3D rendering and I had to downclock my RAM from 3600 cl18 to 3200 cl16c to keep W11 from crashing mid render
My problem is mostly windows 11 issues but everything else has been great so far
I want to get same speed and cl ram for 12400f. Which motherboard and ram are you using (brand, model)? Is ram on the QVL list for the motherboard?
@@snowcat2989 Z690-A PRO and Corsair LPX - quite shockingly, this particular RAM of mine is not in the QVL but it has been working fine ever since I downclocked it
Bought a 12700k together with with an msi z690 edge ddr4 motherboard.
Very happy with it,board is having quite goid features,the 2.5gb ethernet connection is more than enough for me.I will stick with it for a couple years.I do believe a high end ddr4 kit will not be a lot slower than a ddr5 one and at the monent ddr5 has stability issues and prices are way to high,cost more than a 12th gen processor.
I just purchased that same combo! Did you go with Windows 10 or 11 on your install? I've been debating this the past week.
Extremely impressive!!!!!!!!
My Intel 6950x is still kicking ass at 4.4 GHz all core , only about 8% behind a 10900k so I'm still good for a while , I'll upgrade Intel 13th gen when some of the issues are ironed out
I have that frequently crashing problem with Windows 10... it was rooting memory management errors. It was a dying ram stick.
Replaced (same brand and specs) but cheaper, it's now throwing me 'page fault in nonpaged area'... I should've kept Win7 when they ended support, just for a while longer...
And then there's the chance that with all those DDR5/PCIe5/W11 aspects Adler brings, while possibly a future of computing once we start to get Gen5 SSDs and DDR5 high capacity DIMMs become available at those 6GHz speeds at good prices and at great quantities, the expected CES reveal of 3D V-Cache Ryzens still using AM4 and DDR4 and PCIe4, along with possibly very high pricing of the "5" products Intel now supports that may also be introduced soon, may tip the balance towards the AMD products for the budget minded...
There's been a bug with the update license function in the latest build of win10. Go with a fresh install if you get an error message and it should work fine.
Are the DDR4 kits having the same issues or only DDR5. Thanks.
I just bought the ProArt board and am planning on going with a similar setup as this. I'm a little worried now... Are all of these issues software problems that will be fixed through future updates or hardware problems that will be fixed through future models?
Yeah, we hope they fixed
I watched your video last night and you recommended i5 12600K to build a PC for video editing. Like to explain why?
Looking for cpu recommendations: Just starting to look into putting together a new system and there are so many choices, that it's really quite confusing.. I'm still using I7 3770 (non k) that I've had forever, (but which still gets the job done)..so I imagine even 10th or 11th gen would be a huge upgrade.. I'm a photograqpher.. Lightroom/Photoshop.. Fuji 24 MP cameras editing raw files .. portrait stuff, skin retouching etc, (no panoramas, stitching large files, 3D etc).. almost no video (except personal/family stuff.. no 4K, no gaming).. My budget could handle up to an i7 12700k.. and on the low end of what I'm considering would be 10th generation i5.. (of which there seem to be about 9 variations 10400, 10400f, 10500, 10600 etc).. I'm looking for bang for the buck: fuctionality over bragging rights..I neither want to be cheap about my cpu, nor overspend when money saved could be better used on RAM, storage etc.. any suggestions/recommendations would be greatly appreciated
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I'm running a 12600k (with DDR4) and the latest Adobe versions, and both Premiere Pro and After Effects crash every time I close the programs. I had that issue before version 22.x and thought the update would fix it, but it's still happening. I don't actually have any problems while using the programs (other than the occasional freeze for a few seconds, not sure why that is), I just get the crash-screen each time I close the programs.
Agree (I7 12700k and I have to go back from 11 to Windows 10 because of stability issues). But one more thing - COOLING. There are almost absolutely no coolers dedicated for LGA 1700 - and this is a BIG issue for those hot CPUs. Buying AlderLake now will give you very small, and very poor choice of cooling.
12700kf here using Lian Li 360 AIO. I'm 4c above ambient browsing web and watching videos. Jumps to 20c above ambient playing Valorant Online. I have Six 120mm inlet and three 120mm exhaust fans - all running at minimum speed - ramping up to 900rpm or so playing games.
some manufacturer have an adaptor for their products....finding lga 1700 compatible cooler is a pain in the ass but you can still go for the few added ones from compatibility kits
i personally went for an Arctic Freezer 34 eSports duo for my upcoming build...it has a lga 1700 mounting kit you can buy with it or separated ( hard to find )....and speaking of that the only one i saw was the last one on Amazon...and i bought it
AMD Ryzen 5000 series have some issues. Please make a vedio of this topic.
I think I like your channel. Very informative.
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So you mean when you have let's say i7-12700k and doing some painting in photoshop it will crash because of that cpu even on win10?
Yeah, I’ve lost progress on a project before due to a blue screen. It’s heart breaking no joke
I have a DRAM issue. The system didn't post when the RAM was installed on DIMM A2B2 or A1B1 slots. It can't recognize DIMM A). It can't set up the dual channel. Lastest BIOS. I have tried three different new mobos from the different brands B to Z, Two new CPUs i5-12600k, and two different DDR4 RAM(on the support list)... 12 gen = buggy gen. Very disappointed.
What's your opinion about Studio Drivers For 3d & Editing works!
I just order 128Gb ddr5 and now I'm scared :(
Does Adobe Premiere pro use resizable bar?
i have 12900ks, and new motherboard. lots of crashes going on still!
Damn.....after watching one of your videos, I've pretty much got your exact setup, with a couple of exceptions (case/psu/3080TI). It's still in bits as I am waiting to get the graphics card but.....this video did not make my day. I messed up and got three Seagate 530 sticks, but they had the heatsink on, which does not fit onto the motherboard. I went back onto Amazon to get the 530s without the heatsink, but when I went onto the page to buy them - it said once, and in small print "510" (in between all of the 530 material, which was nice of them), so I've gone for the Samsung Pros. But this whole thing with the memory is a concern....I'll let you know how it goes.
I always wait 6 months to a year before I change to new tech. There's always issues in the beginning
Alder lake owners are (beta tester)³...
Windows 11 beta O.S.
BIG.Little beta desktop CPU
DDR5 beta RAM modules...
Just face it.
It's not beta testing, it's just a lot of new tech as per your bullet list. All ofa this is new, including PCIe 5.0. You cannot keep testing technology before shipping it to the market until all bugs are found. After decades of professional software development, I know bugs are a fact of life because at the end of the day, we are all human. I cannot spot any major bugs in my 12700K and ASUS ProArt Z690 setup. If anything, it's proven to be rock solid. No random restarts. No blue screens. No overheating. I am glad Intel and Asus shipped this new tech instead of withholding it and testing it more in-house.
@@hackneymarshes sure, what you said.
does 12th gen motherboards support 11th gen cpus
Nope
Adobe was unstable on Win10. How could it be more stable on Win11?
Adobe = unstable
Hi I am wondering if there is any difference in boot speed between ryzen and intel in 2022. I own a ryzen 3600 CPU and I notice some days boot speed can take longer than others. When I had an intel CPU the boot speed always remained the same and consistent. I also notice some random performance drop for a few second when I'm using Adobe software. Overall it's making me intel would give me smoother performance but I don't know if I will be wasting my money.
Mmh, I'm running Asus Mobo TUF Gaming Z690 with i9-12900k (little oc to 52x) with 4 sticks of DDR4 Corsair 3200mhz (64GB) on Win 11. The Bios is in XMP (1600mhz) mode and I've no crash or BSOD since 1 month now, in daily use of Adobe, Visual Studio and gaming. For now, I'm using a basic RTX-3060Ti card.
You've got DDR4 :)
@@theTechNotice Yes, I don't trust DDR5 at the moment (apart from crazy prices). Adobe Acrobat is having some UI issue honestly on Win 11.
What about the cooling and thermals?
Is it really that unmanageable?
I'm your big fan bro 🤜
Through the years I've always found that running 4 sticks of ram always leads to more problems than 2 larger sticks.
not on Zen 3 architecture...it delivers an average of 5-10% better performance
@@dovahkingqcclips6913 that's because AMD benefits from having more Ram with how much L3 cache is in Ryzen, Intel only recently finally caught up. but i had Skylake before my current Ryzen 5700X build, and i had 4 sticks 4gb each 16gb total, it worked ok. people do say using all 4 can sometimes lead to issues, but i can say i didn't experience much of that. i never used all 4 before, so when i got on Skylake at the time it was something i wanted to try. it worked out ok, but it was a one time thing.
Has there been any updates after 3 months now, or is still buggy ? Im was planning to buy kf processor and went around enquiring in market for best price, after watching your video i was like oh god😅 this guy saved me from s**t. Thanks a lot for 12900K and KF video though. So if u could tell hows the status of ddr5 ? Ill buy based on what u have there, else ill stick with my DDR4 for now.
In terms of 4x sticks of DDR5 + XMP, still very flaky... I'd recommend 2x the capacity you want like 2x 32GB and you're all good.
What I'd recommend is to buy into the DDR5 platform since all the best motherboards are DDR5 and buy low end DDR5 like the crucial ones and then when software bios and DDR5 improves, upgrade your RAM :)
@@theTechNotice thank you 🙂🙂
Hey with Intel 11th gen with ddr4 running Adobe Illustrator, I also run more stable with 2 sticks of ram with xmp enabled at 3200mhz compared to 4 with xmp enabled. However, Illustrator is stable at 2666mhz with 4 sticks. It's weird.
if you have a MS account, you licence applies to your MS account - so as you upgrade from version to version, your "key" goes with you...
What if I want to use Zbrush + Substance Painter + Blender on i7-12700K?
just bought a 12900k and z690 Msi MPG EDGE wifi ddr4 board, got corsair dominator platinum rgb 32gb 3600mhz c14 Samsung B die ram with a 3070 TI evga ftw3 ultra, just a question upgrade to win11 for gaming or stick to win 10 pro??? many say win11 to get full advantage out of the cores of 12900k
I don't watch your vids but this video clears things up allot and is everything I wanted to know thanks it's unfortunate I found a motherboard I like but its ddr5 only im thinking a single stick until everything gets updated to work better in unison
Running 12th gen on two computers, Inspiron and XPS desktops. Lots of issues. Crashing, freezing. Audio problems: can't stream music without stutter, crackling. I don't have the audio problems on Gen 11 Win 11 laptop, or my old Windows 10 laptop. Constant Windows updates; it almost seems like they released it prematurely.
Also, tried putting an ASUS GT730 graphics cards in the Inspiron (has GDDDR5 Ram) and that caused hardware errors and crashes galore (to be fair the PSU wasn't rated for the card, but even just web browsing or email and it would crash).
Are they still happening, the issues? I want to buy a 12600k
@@domasberulis Sorry for slow reply, still have stability issues with crashes, but not nearly as frequently. Seems like a Windows 11 is starting to become more stable, but still very regular updates. I think the audio problem was related to the Amazon music app, perhaps not being compatible with external DACs. I think it was fixed recently, or was possibly related to having the volume equalizer on in the amazon music app. I think processor is fine.
so i bought a z690 asus motherboard along with the intel i9 cpu and with some ddr5 ram…we installed everything and i get a blue screen that mentions AMD drivers (i had an amd cpu before) so i removed the amd files from my main ssd & it still gives the same message…is there anyway to fix this?
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Do any of you Alder Lake users have experience with music software and not just video editing or games?
How well is your 12700k or 12900K working in software like Ableton Live?
I'd like to build a system with a 12700K and DDR4.
Yes. I run Cubase, Amplitube 5, Syntronk 2, tRacks5..and various other software for recording. MSI Pro z690 ddr 4 wifi motherboard. There is a C1E type issue running without a ground lift on the DI Box. When ground lift isn't engaged any powered speaker with a 3 pin plug makes the speaker emit a buzzing / clicking noise [think ground loop] when moving the mouse. Once the ground lift is enabled on the DI box it's perfect. It was a similar issue with Z590 and X570 for a few people as well.
For stability purposes would you recommend Windows 10 or 11 OS for an Alder Lake CPU and DDR5 memory? I would be using it for Lightroom, Photoshop, and DaVinci Resolve.
The recommendation is Win10 for all the creative apps you mentioned. DDR4 is more stable at this time.
@Zeno_fr there are stability problems on the creative apps with Win11. The recommendation is to stick with Win10 and wait out until all issues are resolved with Win11.
The issues are resolved, literally 1 minor bug and it got fixed last night, I’ve been using windows 11 for the past 2 weeks with I9 12, 3090 ddr5 and works like a charm, ignore these Linux users, they just can’t move into the future
@@ryanairismonke2343 hey mate 2 or 4 sticks of ddr5? Xmp enabled?
I have started ordering components for an Intel 12th Gen rig, starting with a Core i9 12900K cpu and an EVGA NVIDIA Geforce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming vid card. I'm still researching the DDR5 vs DDR4 issues, but will probably go with DDR5 ecc memory. I'll be using Windows 11 Pro, (hopefully they will patch it up in the near future to catch up to the demands of users across the board). I am a low level creator on UA-cam, but I getting ready to ramp up my channel. I'm gearing up for up to 4K editing and viewing, ( I already use home theater with 5.1 surround), I'm a gamer, and sometimes multitasker. I am also a wannabe guitar player/multiple instrument musician and will be running recording software also. I will let you know if I have any particular issues in my endeavors, (besides the already established ecc latency vs data security, etc...), as I encounter them. I am currently using Adobe editing software, (2018 version), but that may change as I try to evolve upward.
how did it went for you my friend ? I'm going for the same
@@zerg47 Hello, my new PC is up and running very nicely. The rig includes an Intel Core i9 12900K, ASUS ROG Strix Z690-E Motherboard, ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360 AIO liquid cpu cooler, EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra video card, Corsair 32GB, (2X16 DIMMS), DDR5 non ecc memory, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB 4th Gen SSD, two Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB 3rd Gen SSD's, Windows 11 Pro, Corsair 5000D Airflow case, LG C1 55" OLED 4K display, and Logitech Z906 THX 1000 WATT/500 WATT RMS 5.1 surround sound system, and RAZER, NAGA Trinity mouse. I was not able to go with the ecc style DDR5 as the motherboard did not support it. I'm actually glad I did not as the latency was higher, although I would have liked the security of the data write checking. The rig showed 4K display @120 fps settings. It runs fantastic. The 360 AIO keeps the cpu nice and cool and the fans are quiet to me. I am still configuring and loading software. I still have my other work pc and am taking my time setting up the new one. Watching movies is quite awesome with the big 4K display and 5.1 surround. I now need a nice recliner, hahahaha. I have to load the video editing software, the new music studio software. I have a new SONNUS i2M musicport MIDI and Hi-Z USB audio interface to be able to run my electric guitars, singing microphone, and other musical equipment to record on the studio software. The only issue I have encountered is trying to watch 4K DVD's. I have a Pioneer BDR-XS07UHD external optical disc player/writer, supposedly capable of writing and playing 4K. When I try to watch a 4K DVD movie, I get an error. I am trying to analyze and find an answer to that. I can watch 4K from UA-cam OK. I think it is a copyright issue on the DVD's so you can't burn copies of 4K. I will also will be trying some 4K editing from my GoPro cameras to see if there is any issues. I have Cyberlink Power DVD 21 Ultra software supposedly capable of playing 4K. I am going to call Intel, ASUS, and Pioneer to try to solve the issue. If I can edit and write 4K to disc, then watch my video from disc, the issue is definitely copyright, and probably circumventable. I don't want to burn illegal copies of movies, I buy them to own and just want to watch them on my 5,500.00 freaking computer and display, hahahaha. I do like my new rig and will be flexing it more as time goes on. I have not loaded any games yet but I'm sure it will handle any on the market, and what I already own, including m HTC Vive VR stuff.
@@capnstevoanythinggoes That's great, nice
@@zerg47 did you figure out your videos and UA-cam issues. My 12th gen can’t even do UA-cam sometimes. I think it’s DD5😳
I'm having lightroom issues, crashing on export. 12900k, windows 11, 32gb DDR5. Anyone had any similar issues?
Update, BIOS, WINDOWS LRC and all the drivers! See if that fixes it, I've seen a lot of improvement lately by just updating software... :)
So... i love your vids but I think it's pretty disingenuous to say "the whole operating system is new" regarding Windows 11. Everything I've seen and used points to *literally* no changes outside the scheduler and the UI. In fact I'd put money on at least 90% of the 16-bit boat-anchor code that was (just as ridiculously) still being dragged around in Windows 10, still being in Windows 11. lol
which Intel processor is better and consume less electricity and bring lower amount electricity bills - Intel 10700 or Intel 11700?
intel 10700
I have the i9 12900k with a Asus z690m d4 and 64gb ram ddr4, xmp works 🤷♂️
But I had many issues with this new sistem. It looks like it started to work better in the last times.
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Going to the edge of the newest hardwares + OS + softwares always lead to some issues that to me are mostly based on misunderstandings.
Those hardwares and softwares Guru's heads needs to sits around a table... and TALK to each others... show down all systems projects. Only this can give us a real stable new platform!
Maybe the issues on ddr5 ram are on the bios maybe bios update could fix that
If you didn’t know you can activate windows with one minute of your time 100% free. Even called up Microsoft to confirm my activation is legit and they confirmed they found no issues with it. So the command prompt method is flawless and I’ll never have to pay for windows again XD. Anyway off that topic my 12700kf has had no faults that I can find, everything has been flawless.
Anyone know if the WhoKeys thing is legit or if it’s the classic “Works for 180 days” thing
I was not expecting this ram issues... remembers me when I bought some of the first 32GB sticks DDR4 2 years ago where only Crucial modules worked fine.
I'll upgrade platform when 128GB sticks (256 kits) are out :))
i know you simply mean you won't upgrade for a while but... 256gb ram is extremely excessive if you compare to what you need for casual and gaming load... having 200 wikipedia pages open at the same time is overly exagerated
Microsoft has said moths ago youcan use your Window 10 key on 11 is written on Microsoft website last June
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your Table is checking bro .. take care
The best solution: buy a Ryzen
Me too, but still thinking what case and GPU use for my Ryzen 9 5950x......
Even my ddr4 won't run at xmp
Depends which mobo and sticks. For me 4 sticks run no problem on AeroG DDR4.
Hello! I have rock solid experience with G.Skill Royal hand made chips(samsung b-die), on my perfect MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4, running with no issues, like as my 12900K and RTX 3080 TI OC, everything perfectly fine, just lower voltage on 12900K, now im air cooled, with 49$ cooler, lol, ID-Cooling SE 226 XT(250 w TDP)...5000mhz on 1.234v at full load(LLC 6+ adaptive and negative offset by 20 mv), very happy with my setup, cheers, and best regards...Thx for the review, about 12900K and air coolers;) BTW, my VRM never goes above 50c....Perfect Mobo...👍
Still running Win 10 and will do so for time being due stability. Ps. please secure your table, now it wobbles like something is going give up soon ;o)
I'm running a 12600k with 32gb ram with no issues what so ever 💪
2 sticks shouldn't have any issues :)
It's not that complicated. Both AMD and Intel make great products. Choose either and be happy. The incremental differences between running memory at3200, 4200 or 5000 are not even perceivable. Stop benchmarking and start using your computers people. My 12700kf is doing very well. No crashes and no heat issues. The only problem is a grounding issue which appears only when using powered speakers without a ground lift on the DI Box. The X570 and Z590 had similar issues related to C1E or Computer Enhanced Halt. Once I work out the equivalent adjustment in z690 bios I think it will be a perfect system for my Cubase productivity.
Have a look at my ddr4 vs ddr5 video and there is actually a measurable difference, especially when moving to ddr5 6000MHz
@@theTechNotice There's a difference sure but 64gb DDR5 memory kits in Australia are $900 compared to $350 for good reliable DDR4 ones. It's simply money better spent elsewhere on more Samsung M.2 980 Pro drives or plugins. For video editing maybe it's worth it - but for me DDR5 just isn't enough of a jump in performance for me to notice without resorting to a benchmark.
The same keys shouldn’t cost more than $4.05 at the most
I don't have an issues with DDR5, because I don't even have the option of running 1 stick of DDR5 right now, why bother running 4 sticks.
DDR5 I got will drive the system in to a halt when playing games if I use XMP on it. At base frequency no problem at all.
thanks
The thing I find ridiculous is that MS promoted the update as an increase in security due to virtualizing processes and yet when you complete an upgrade from 10 to 11 the VBS functionality in the control panel remains disabled!
never mind the ram what about only 20 pcie lanes 12900k what a mistake
Can't you just get a more stable desk?
INtel should continue selling their gen4 cpu
I think I have the same desk, Ikea very light desk plate, and it wobbles like mine , little disturbing by watching but overall your channel is good as always. 🙃
msi meg z690 ace is ddr4 and ddr5 compatable
Emmm.... I don't think so... 🤔
There is nothing at all wrong with the chip I have been using it for over a month now no issues what so ever. Just stay off Windows 11 for now. Also run the chip on DDR 4. The thing moves faster then a bad smell. No need for Win 11 or DDR 5. Wait a year or more for Microshaft to get all the bugs out and maybe the DDR 5 will drop in price. However I see no reason to ever go to a DDR 5 board. The chip is stinking fast on a DDR 4 board.
12900k if you are gamer or editor beast smooth with 100% ddr4 128gb not ddr5 not yet so many issue and there price is crazy. If you want 12th gen make sure the mother board is ddr4 i have and works perfect with no issue. WINDOWS 11 pro,,,
what motherboard are you using ?
@@eazenx5178 Rog strix z690 wifi D4