I had post-game depression after beating this game for about a week. The bond of brotherly love severed by Josh dying and the way they presented it stayed with me for a long time. This was a well-written video game.
I wouldn't say that about 15..........and 12. >3> Both were products of being lost and confused. Sure 13 also rode the same boat, but they savaged it. 12 couldn't enjoy the same luxury and 15 was so much a mess the "true ending" got canceled in the second half.
@@hiddenmaster606212 TZA is a masterpiece, I did everything in it, there is so much to do and explore in that world. 15 is also amazing..played both for 100s of hours.
What I love about the final phase is that Ultima only refers to the elements by their base properties, while Clive refers to them based on the culture around them. The Eikons were part of humanity's culture and Clive is acknowledging it while Ultima chooses to ignore it.
I do not understand the haters of this game. The producer of this game never promised anything beyond what it is, an Action Packed RPG. And yet, people try to find flaws in the game that aren't in the game. Basically they complain what's not in the game. Which is strange.
I finished this on release and the emotions still stick with me. Seeing your reaction to loads of key parts of the game was an absolute treat. Found myself tearing up again alongside you! The game now stands as one of my favourite Final Fantasy games and it's going to be hard to top it.
It was nice to see the end of your journey, I also really loved it. My take on the ending is that either Joshua or Clive survived and wrote the book. I could see Clive crediting Joshua.
When the FF theme started playing during Jill and Clive's farewell. I felt something break inside of me. It just sounded way too much like a wedding song for a wedding they'll never have. I'm still hurting from the pain.
Clive took on Cids name, so it makes sense to me that he would do the same for Joshua when writing the book. There are many supporting reasons for that: The game begins and ends with Clives voice narrating, a side quest for Harpocrates has them talk about how Clive loves stories and would like to be a writer after all is said and done, Clives left hand partially turns to stone but he writes with his right hand, and Cid has nearly his whole Arm turn to stone while continuing to live on a while longer. Jills prayer was for Clives safe return, but she also cries because she could sense Joshuas death too, leaving her with a very bittersweet moment at the end. She knows the world is better, but at great personal cost. I also love how in most games, the final boss fight is a song about the boss, but in FF16, its a song about Clive and humanity rising up. This game is incredible :)
Oh. I remember having like a week or so of post-game depression. I actually love that they left the ending open to interpretation. I wholeheartedly believe that Clive survived, but Joshua didn't. Our boy took Joshua's name (like he did with Cid's) and wrote the book. We as a player are reliving the story through his book. The game literally starts and ends like a book would.
It's been so long since I've played this game, and still even after months and months of not playing it. Every time I still see this ending I cry, it's a battle to hold back the tears. Also Ben Starr did an incredible performance as Clive, put his heart and soul into it - I don't know if you knew this but his own father died during his recordings for FF16 and he said in an interview he poured that emotion into his work. You can *really* feel it.
Moongazing. English Lyrics. Note: My Star the English ending song is Jill's feelings towards Clive, the Japanese Ending song Moongazing is how Clive feels about Jill. Moonlight, the willows swaying. I’m just a pebble on the side of the road My mind races at the thought of you, as if I were counting sheep If there’s a reason to say goodbye, at the very least, don’t be sad Go to the other side, separated from the stillness. Touched by a ray of love No matter the nights that come, no matter what we lose We’ve lived together, in the blink of an eye I was looking up at the moon, searching for something When I was frightened by the storm, I’m glad it was you who appeared before me As if none of this had ever happened, I know this fire will never go out, surely When the wind beats at the window, open it just a crack And scream in an unspeakable voice, just one thing. Yes, just one thing If I’m to be reborn, even if I can’t remember I’ll find you, I’ll find you I burned everything and looked at the moon Even if someone would pity me for it I was happy, as long as I was with you Even if it wasn’t entirely right It will never fade Call my name just one more time With your soft voice that gently wraps me The branch I grasped while following the moon, was you I was looking up at the moon, searching for something When I was frightened by the storm, I’m glad it was you who appeared before me As if none of this had ever happened, I know this fire will never go out, surely
16 is my second favourite Final Fantasy after 10. I sped through your play through at 2x speed except the good story parts. This game is a whirlwind of emotions and truly such a bittersweet ending. I also love that the ending is ambiguous, so we can hypothesize and keep talking about the game. Can’t wait to see what the second DLC brings! Truly a magnificent game. Thanks for the tears. 🤭😭
Clive values his Eikons abilities saying their names while Ultima does not value them . Proving what Clive said throughout this whole final battle not accepting others and choosing to be alone . To me having others in your life that truly cares can help you succeed to your goal.
Don't worry with rising tide dlc as the developers hinted with interviews the final will change or will be extended so we must wait the rising tide dlc and hope
Post game depression hit me hard after i finished this. The only game i knew to follow this up with was yakuza 6 which also was another roller coaster for me
This was really painful of an end. I've played all expansions up to now in FFXIV and while they made me upset. They never truly let you experience loss and suffering. This game really didn't hold anything back.
For the ending In my book everyone died. Its make so much sense even in regards to the side quest and What world Clive wanted to create. The ONLY guess is Clive, Joshua is 100% dead it was stated multiples times that Phoenix cant bring people back to life only mend wound
I believe in the end, Clive healed Joshua, and used Ultima's power to rid the world of magic and eikons forever. Joshua, wrote a book describing the events of FFXVI and it is so different from the future world (end cutscene) that people believe it was just a fairy tale. So Clive sacrificed everything for everyone else. I have also heard that Joshua Rosfield could be Joshua's son who wrote a book but I tend to believe it was Joshua himself.
There's also another theory/interpretation. The historian in the game says Joshua's true gift wasn't the power of The Phoenix, but his gift for words and how moving/powerful they could be, something he was known for even as an infant. Before the powers of The Phoenix started manifesting within him. When Joshua heals Clive after the first encounter with Barnabas, he explains that only one's body can be healed and that their soul/spirit must fight to return and keep moving on. By the ending, Joshua's soul/spirit has been broken and probably dead for a long time, only his will to help Clive kept a spark lit for him to go onwards. After Ultima was defeated there was no need for him to return, Joshua could finally be at peace. So the theory goes that Clive tried to heal Joshua, but in the end it was for nothing *(it only healed his body)* and he didn't come back because his soul had already passed away a long time ago. Clive didn't die at the ending, he just passed out by the waves and lost his arm, he kept on living and eventually wrote the book and signed Joshua Rosfield as the author, so that his brother's gift with words would live on for generations to come... even centuries later, when Magic and Eikons became just folklore. That's the nice part about FF16's ending. Joshua could have survived and ended up writing the book, it could have been Clive posing as Joshua so that his brother's name would live on... or it could have been just folklore, a work of fantasy, fairy tales told to children all along. I'm sure the devs will never officialize a canon ending to it and that's great, because everyone can have their own :)
Corrección a Joshua le cerró la herida del pecho nada más ,clive dijo que al acabar todo quería escribir un libro, y recuerden a clive le dan una pluma al final de una misión secundaría y también estaba la orden ocultaba que servia a Joshua los cuales escribieron toda la aventuras de Joshua,por lo que clive puede que les haya pedido las escrituras que hicieron para hacer el libro y poner el nombre de Joshua en el libro en honor a su hermano
My opinion about the post credit scene is that Clive wrote the book in Joshua's name to honour and remember him, if you remember the side quests that involves Clive / Dion and Harpocrates at the end he hopes Clive will lay down his sword and pick up the pen as he gives him his quill and write about his adventures. I believe that to be how the book was written.
The ending is pretty much a headcanon. You can choose what to believe what happened. Personally I think Clive survived and took Joshua’s name like he did with cid.
What i get from the ending was that Joshua survive, clive heals his body but with the power of a God, after absorbs Ultima, he realices that using Gods power damages his body, thats why i think he said wow so this vessels wasnt strong enough, or something similar, and then use all the power of God to ends magic in the world, knowing his body will suffer, and that post credits scene i assume was far on the future so magic its a fairy tale but people learn to live without it, Joshua leave the poof in that book but now its a fairy tale after all the years
I felt like the story started falling off halfway through the game and there were too many sidequests that were pretty useless fetch quests, but overall i mostly enjoyed the game. I like that they committed to a bittersweet ending that was done well, and I'm very happy for you that you enjoyed the game, especially so much that it evoked emotion from you at the credits. That's what gaming is all about. If you thoroughly enjoyed it, I think that's absolutely awesome!
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I had post-game depression after beating this game for about a week. The bond of brotherly love severed by Josh dying and the way they presented it stayed with me for a long time. This was a well-written video game.
Each Final Fantasy game is a masterpiece in its own way. Best video game franchise of all time. Love 16 ❤
100% agree 🎉❤
I wouldn't say that about 15..........and 12. >3>
Both were products of being lost and confused. Sure 13 also rode the same boat, but they savaged it. 12 couldn't enjoy the same luxury and 15 was so much a mess the "true ending" got canceled in the second half.
@@hiddenmaster606212 TZA is a masterpiece, I did everything in it, there is so much to do and explore in that world.
15 is also amazing..played both for 100s of hours.
@@hiddenmaster6062Nonsense. 12 TZA is a masterpiece. So much to do and explore in its world. 15 has also so much to offer.
What I love about the final phase is that Ultima only refers to the elements by their base properties, while Clive refers to them based on the culture around them. The Eikons were part of humanity's culture and Clive is acknowledging it while Ultima chooses to ignore it.
I do not understand the haters of this game. The producer of this game never promised anything beyond what it is, an Action Packed RPG. And yet, people try to find flaws in the game that aren't in the game. Basically they complain what's not in the game. Which is strange.
I agree. If they made a game that almost replicated everything they love about X, VII, or any other beloved game there would still be haters.
I finished this on release and the emotions still stick with me. Seeing your reaction to loads of key parts of the game was an absolute treat. Found myself tearing up again alongside you! The game now stands as one of my favourite Final Fantasy games and it's going to be hard to top it.
Thanks for watching! I enjoyed it immensely, too!
I just finished it today. I felt the emotions too. So mad Clive died man
It was nice to see the end of your journey, I also really loved it. My take on the ending is that either Joshua or Clive survived and wrote the book. I could see Clive crediting Joshua.
A tribute to his brother!
When the FF theme started playing during Jill and Clive's farewell. I felt something break inside of me.
It just sounded way too much like a wedding song for a wedding they'll never have. I'm still hurting from the pain.
Clive took on Cids name, so it makes sense to me that he would do the same for Joshua when writing the book. There are many supporting reasons for that: The game begins and ends with Clives voice narrating, a side quest for Harpocrates has them talk about how Clive loves stories and would like to be a writer after all is said and done, Clives left hand partially turns to stone but he writes with his right hand, and Cid has nearly his whole Arm turn to stone while continuing to live on a while longer. Jills prayer was for Clives safe return, but she also cries because she could sense Joshuas death too, leaving her with a very bittersweet moment at the end. She knows the world is better, but at great personal cost.
I also love how in most games, the final boss fight is a song about the boss, but in FF16, its a song about Clive and humanity rising up. This game is incredible :)
I absolutely agree. I loved this game from beginning to end.
Yes it sure is. Now I know why it is so loved.
I really love FF16. One of my all time favorite mainline FF.
I really enjoyed it too!
Oh. I remember having like a week or so of post-game depression. I actually love that they left the ending open to interpretation. I wholeheartedly believe that Clive survived, but Joshua didn't. Our boy took Joshua's name (like he did with Cid's) and wrote the book. We as a player are reliving the story through his book. The game literally starts and ends like a book would.
Yes it does!
It's been so long since I've played this game, and still even after months and months of not playing it. Every time I still see this ending I cry, it's a battle to hold back the tears.
Also Ben Starr did an incredible performance as Clive, put his heart and soul into it - I don't know if you knew this but his own father died during his recordings for FF16 and he said in an interview he poured that emotion into his work. You can *really* feel it.
Oh my god I had no idea. Wow
Moongazing.
English Lyrics.
Note: My Star the English ending song is Jill's feelings towards Clive, the Japanese Ending song Moongazing is how Clive feels about Jill.
Moonlight, the willows swaying. I’m just a pebble on the side of the road
My mind races at the thought of you, as if I were counting sheep
If there’s a reason to say goodbye, at the very least, don’t be sad
Go to the other side, separated from the stillness. Touched by a ray of love
No matter the nights that come, no matter what we lose
We’ve lived together, in the blink of an eye
I was looking up at the moon, searching for something
When I was frightened by the storm,
I’m glad it was you who appeared before me
As if none of this had ever happened,
I know this fire will never go out, surely
When the wind beats at the window, open it just a crack
And scream in an unspeakable voice, just one thing. Yes, just one thing
If I’m to be reborn, even if I can’t remember
I’ll find you, I’ll find you
I burned everything and looked at the moon
Even if someone would pity me for it
I was happy, as long as I was with you
Even if it wasn’t entirely right
It will never fade
Call my name just one more time
With your soft voice that gently wraps me
The branch I grasped while following the moon, was you
I was looking up at the moon, searching for something
When I was frightened by the storm,
I’m glad it was you who appeared before me
As if none of this had ever happened,
I know this fire will never go out, surely
Thank you!!!
I came here after watching your Aerith reaction video and this is just all so wholesome. Instant sub. I'm glad you're enjoying these precious games
Thanks so much!!!
Love that you enjoyed it. It is for sure one of my favorite games ever. Thanks for playing
Thanks for watching!
16 is my second favourite Final Fantasy after 10. I sped through your play through at 2x speed except the good story parts. This game is a whirlwind of emotions and truly such a bittersweet ending. I also love that the ending is ambiguous, so we can hypothesize and keep talking about the game. Can’t wait to see what the second DLC brings! Truly a magnificent game. Thanks for the tears. 🤭😭
Clive values his Eikons abilities saying their names while Ultima does not value them . Proving what Clive said throughout this whole final battle not accepting others and choosing to be alone . To me having others in your life that truly cares can help you succeed to your goal.
That's a great observation! I agree wholeheartedly
@@cakerinsyeah awesome ending oh if you want there a dlc in the game!
Yea! I want to get to FF7 OG first thought.
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@@cakerins good idea I already finished Final Fantasy 7 Remake and intermission it's still fun to play plus I want to be ready for Rebirth.
Don't worry with rising tide dlc as the developers hinted with interviews the final will change or will be extended so we must wait the rising tide dlc and hope
Ah ok. Thanks!
I am excited to do a NG+ with Leviathan as part of my ability rotation from the start.
The ending...yep, I know what to expect but like everyone else has commented, it gets me every time. Such a great game!
Post game depression hit me hard after i finished this. The only game i knew to follow this up with was yakuza 6 which also was another roller coaster for me
@@tekmoney2006 agreed!
This was really painful of an end. I've played all expansions up to now in FFXIV and while they made me upset. They never truly let you experience loss and suffering. This game really didn't hold anything back.
1:51:39 your laugh cry was so hilarious I am also laughing and crying rewatching this again 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
For the ending In my book everyone died. Its make so much sense even in regards to the side quest and What world Clive wanted to create. The ONLY guess is Clive, Joshua is 100% dead it was stated multiples times that Phoenix cant bring people back to life only mend wound
With ultima's power clive can resuscitate Joshua.... The mythos purpose is this.
Joshua was so perfect from the beginning to the end. I knew right from the 1st time i saw him he was going to be special to me.
I believe in the end, Clive healed Joshua, and used Ultima's power to rid the world of magic and eikons forever. Joshua, wrote a book describing the events of FFXVI and it is so different from the future world (end cutscene) that people believe it was just a fairy tale. So Clive sacrificed everything for everyone else. I have also heard that Joshua Rosfield could be Joshua's son who wrote a book but I tend to believe it was Joshua himself.
I love your thoughts! So good.
There's also another theory/interpretation.
The historian in the game says Joshua's true gift wasn't the power of The Phoenix, but his gift for words and how moving/powerful they could be, something he was known for even as an infant. Before the powers of The Phoenix started manifesting within him.
When Joshua heals Clive after the first encounter with Barnabas, he explains that only one's body can be healed and that their soul/spirit must fight to return and keep moving on. By the ending, Joshua's soul/spirit has been broken and probably dead for a long time, only his will to help Clive kept a spark lit for him to go onwards. After Ultima was defeated there was no need for him to return, Joshua could finally be at peace.
So the theory goes that Clive tried to heal Joshua, but in the end it was for nothing *(it only healed his body)* and he didn't come back because his soul had already passed away a long time ago. Clive didn't die at the ending, he just passed out by the waves and lost his arm, he kept on living and eventually wrote the book and signed Joshua Rosfield as the author, so that his brother's gift with words would live on for generations to come... even centuries later, when Magic and Eikons became just folklore.
That's the nice part about FF16's ending. Joshua could have survived and ended up writing the book, it could have been Clive posing as Joshua so that his brother's name would live on... or it could have been just folklore, a work of fantasy, fairy tales told to children all along. I'm sure the devs will never officialize a canon ending to it and that's great, because everyone can have their own :)
Corrección a Joshua le cerró la herida del pecho nada más ,clive dijo que al acabar todo quería escribir un libro, y recuerden a clive le dan una pluma al final de una misión secundaría y también estaba la orden ocultaba que servia a Joshua los cuales escribieron toda la aventuras de Joshua,por lo que clive puede que les haya pedido las escrituras que hicieron para hacer el libro y poner el nombre de Joshua en el libro en honor a su hermano
Such a masterpiece of a game one the of best games iv ever played thank you sir for this awsome gameplay
Thanks for watching!
My opinion about the post credit scene is that Clive wrote the book in Joshua's name to honour and remember him, if you remember the side quests that involves Clive / Dion and Harpocrates at the end he hopes Clive will lay down his sword and pick up the pen as he gives him his quill and write about his adventures. I believe that to be how the book was written.
It’s so interesting. In a way it’s hope it’s all left to the imagination of the fans. Sometimes ambiguity is better.
Narrator at the begining of the story is Clive voice
The ending is pretty much a headcanon. You can choose what to believe what happened. Personally I think Clive survived and took Joshua’s name like he did with cid.
I like that !
What i get from the ending was that Joshua survive, clive heals his body but with the power of a God, after absorbs Ultima, he realices that using Gods power damages his body, thats why i think he said wow so this vessels wasnt strong enough, or something similar, and then use all the power of God to ends magic in the world, knowing his body will suffer, and that post credits scene i assume was far on the future so magic its a fairy tale but people learn to live without it, Joshua leave the poof in that book but now its a fairy tale after all the years
Amazing
Awesome
Great reactions. Easily the best FF game to date, even beating FF7 Rebirth a few days ago.. 16 just hits different.
Ojalá juegues a final fantasy XV pronto!! 😍
Playing this game reminded me of asura wrath...and feels were overpowering
Such an evangelion ending I hate it and love it 😭
FFXIV when?
I don't know if I'll play XIV. I'm not much into MMO style games.
I felt like the story started falling off halfway through the game and there were too many sidequests that were pretty useless fetch quests, but overall i mostly enjoyed the game. I like that they committed to a bittersweet ending that was done well, and I'm very happy for you that you enjoyed the game, especially so much that it evoked emotion from you at the credits. That's what gaming is all about. If you thoroughly enjoyed it, I think that's absolutely awesome!
Second worst FF of all time. What a waste
What FF is you favorite?