WORST Possible Combination! The Startling Tale of Wizz Air Flight 801
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2024
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HOW did the pilots of Wizz Air Flight 801 end up over 1,000 ft below the height of surrounding terrain with no clue they were heading straight towards a mountain?
In today’s video, we’ll break down the string of errors that led to this dire situation and how Wizz Air used this incident to train future pilots on how you should NEVER handle a terrain escape procedure.
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How many hours of flight time do you have accumulated during your career?
The term is 'GIGO', garbage in, garbage out. Another popular computer term is 'PICNIC'. Problem in chair, not in computer.
@@kaiperdaens7670 More than 2.
Can you please make a video of Allied Air Flight 111 accident in Ghana, west Africa. Would love to hear that story. Love your content and wouldn’t miss it for anything
@MentourPilot We appreciate the effort of you and your team but please increase your upload, at least once a week
I love the "pull up" jumpscare, it was so well executed and proves the point perfectly. Hats off to whoever came up with this idea.
Ah time to get the mentour pilot bingo out:
Well.... No.
Terrain Terrain, Pull Up!
Noooot exactly...
Why did this captain do this? We will never know.
Now, as a pilot myself...
Remember that bit of information we talked about earlier?...Yeah..
If the pilots just looked down at the instruments for one second...
Aviate, Navigate then Communicate!
Before we get to the end I want to take this opportunity to...
Remember that. This is gonna become very important soon.
And don't forget the famous lip smack then long inhale...
The aircraft was a beauuuutiful...
And that's worth keeping in mind.
They started to fall behind the aircraft
Hats off to the engineers who designed the systems that gave these pilots time to rectify this situation
That "pull up" jump scare was on point, made me jump. 😅
That was the point!
It got me too.
It got me!
It got me too. The "PULL UP" alone is scary enough, but this was really well timed. And to my shame you kind of announced it and I still fell for it.
This was quite an emotional one for me, at the moment that it looked like they were gone, and then the Alpha Floor protection came it and literally saved them. We hear a lot about the Airbus systems in some of the not so positive stories so it was good to hear it shown in such a positive light in this one.
Why was it emotional for you?
At the begining, when I learned it was an empty plane, I felt relieved because, if the story ended in a crash, then only 3 people would die. I must confes that I really thought the plane was going to crash into the mountains after the pilots made so many mistakes, so I felt very happy when the safety feature saved the day! But if you felt "emotional" about an empty plane, then I suggest you don't watch the videos about accidents where hundreds of people lose their lives, otherwise you would feel crushed!
the systems are great tbh, apart from i believe one or two cases (AF440 wasnt one). its just pilots being arrogant in general. the truth is more automation means less accidents and thats it.
Man it would've been emotional for me if I didn't already know about the airbus's protection systems, I was thinking 'well sure they're close to a stall but the plane won't let them do it'.
This is the earliest I’ve been to a Mentour Pilot video - keep up the good work man! I’ve watched so many videos of yours that I can’t find ones I haven’t seen!
i guess i'll watch this before sleeping XD
I never click on a youtubers videos quicker than Mentour Pilot. Always quality content.
Excellent! That’s what I want to hear 💕
Hey Petter, my father is a retired pilot and i always translate your videos for him, part by part. He loves them! It would be awesome to have a spanish audio track on them, there’s a whole spanish speaking audience that would love the videos. Keep up the good work!
We are looking into creating a Spanish dubbed channel, just for this
@@MentourPilotI think UA-cam now allows to add multiple audio streams in different languages on the same video. Seen it recently on some other channels!
@@vamsi3 Maybe so, but it wouldn't monetize the same way; and these video's take an unbelievable amount of effort. People scathe over that, every animation is created by them. I can't imagine the profit lines/going negative are so thin. He needs another revenue stream, and Mr. Beast did it; it's how he exploded. This is the best aviation content on youtube bar none.
@@MentourPilotAnd a Catalan version? I could help
@@MentourPilotw
I have been binging Mentours videos over the past weeks and I must say the production quality is on an insane level that is unmatched anywhere. Kudos to the whole team involved!
Wow, thank you!
This particular video here..i was stunned by the quality!...breathtaking!..it really brings home the visceral nature of the narrative!
Thank you for new video Mentour!
Fun fact, yesterday was 38th birthday of Niš airport. It was opened on 12/10/1986 and it is second biggest airport in Serbia.
Another excellent video in which disaster was avoided but it was looking bad. Put this change in your penny jar and keep these outstanding videos coming! Every time I see one of these aviation videos it makes me realize just how on top the pilots have to be at all times and ready to handle anything! Thanks again to your crew and keep up the high production values!
Regarding Nis airport, 5 -10 years ago, during heavy snow, a Wizz plane tried to land at least 5-6 times. After the last attempt, he left for Budapest. I know because I was following on the flight radar and the runway 29 landing corridor is above my head. A wonderful video that explained to me how complicated Niš airport is!
Its amazing how Peter sounds exactly like the aircraft warning systems when using words like " terrain" or " pull up" etc 😃
This sharing of responsibility in the cockpit is burnt into my mind since an approach in a 172 into Page airport. I was on the Right side responsible for Radio coms and navigation, nothing else . On final approach we came in way to high being not familiar with the airport, even though it has a long long runway. But because we where usually trained on landing on short grass strips, I called out go around and in panic then all off a sudden put the flaps to 0 without announcing it. My friend flying was completely startled, the stall warning came on and we sank singnificantly. Fortunately we recovered and landed safely but ever since I don’t blame the pilots in your examples. All of a sudden everything becomes to speed up and happen super quickly… even in a Cessna 172..
Never thought to see Wizz Air on the Mentour Pilot Channel! 🤯
I hope you found it interesting
Yeah I fly with wizz sometimes scary stuff
@@MentourPilot Very interesting and hair raising. Gold content 💛
@@TheEliera Wow like what?
People, technology, weather - no airline above laws of physics.
Niš is pronounced "Nish", a bit confusing, sounds like Nice in France. Budapest is BudapeSHt too, but that doesn't matter 🙂
I had a feeling that might be the case
@@MentourPilot Amazing video though, I remember reading about it back in the day.
Even most Hungarians pronounce Budapest with the English S sound when speaking in English, it's perfectly fine.
SpaceX just caught a Starship booster out of midair! AND a new Mentour Pilot Video! What a great way to start a day!
Lol here it is 15:05
Glad you enjoyed it! And yes, SpaceX are doing some amazing stuff!
9:05 it is interesting how the egpws is both the one thing pilots never wanna hear but also the thing they never wanna not hear.
And passengers especially don't ever wanna hear it during a pa or something.
Thanks for this story!
Im originally from Niš, Serbia and I flew numerous times with WizzAir above those mountains.
I’m sure that they lernt the lesson!
Cheers,
Petar
Oh yeah the famous phrase in Information Technology (IT). GIGO. Garbage In - Garbage Out.
And it goes way back, too. Charles Babbage (who designed mechanical computers in the mid 19th century) didn't put it quite that simply, but he clearly understood it -- and wondered why others didn't always:
"On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
@@AaronOfMpls Have you noticed-I'm sure you have-what is happening with “AI” this last year or so? Apparently magical thinking is the default mode of our species.
Yeah, I don't think anyone has ever said "Rubbish In, Rubbish Out" before.
I've heard "shit in, shit out" before. SISO? 😅
33:25 that jumpscared startled me lol
I flew the A320FAM 15 years and is a fantastic aircraft. Sidestick-handling is brilliant and that the thrustlevers are not moving is no problem. Watch your FMA at all time!
This story is actually both frightening and reassuring because I also stay close to an airport surrounded by mountains (quite similar landscape to that in Serbia) from which Wizz Air operates. This story actually brought more information about how such landings are done and what systems are helping. Thanks a lot !
I commend your research team for a comprehensive research that they're always doing but I'm most impressed by your ability to explain and narrate technical aspects of an airplane that you've got zero experience on especially the Airbus since you're a 737 guy through and through. It can't be an easy task talking about an aircraft you're not rated on and knowing very well that there's thousands of highly experienced pilots on type who follows your page. A job well done in that regard!
I love a good “get your popcorn” video (i.e. - exciting to watch with no loss of life)! 🍿😎
-Greetings from the Patreon crew
As a Serbian i gasped when you mentioned Nis and Serbia, thanks!
И одвојио Космет…
@@krieger3511 boli me dupe
He only used the wrong map of serbia 😶
Good to hear how well and maturity Wizz Air handled the aftermath of the incident instead of sweeping this under the rug. Greetings from Hungary!
"Worst possible combination "....is a understatement! After the second bizarre MCP input, I'm clicking everything off, calling ATC, circling back to take a fresh run at it or ask for Vectors.... I applied for Wizz back during the Covid year...guess I dodged a bullet!
If you only applied to companies with an immaculate record, you'd never have a job.
Airbus. When the plane ends up flying you being the savioir of the day once again. We already had one of those repositioning flights that didn‘t go so well
This is perfect to watch 1 week before my Wizz flight over the alps😁
Garbage in, garbage out. Learned that from senior engineers very early on in my career.
At first hearing i was thinking "Hey ! Nice is in France ,not Serbia !" ,then i rewinded and watched the video :)
I know.. I could have researched the pronunciation of Niš better
@@MentourPilot When the airport opened for the service a while ago, there were cases of people flying in Nis with Ryan Air or something, expecting to have bought the tickets to Nice. So it happens :)
@@stevanmarinkovic5756Like people going to Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada instead of Sydney, New South Wales, Australia -- or vice versa? (Though the difference in distance isn't _quite_ as big. 🙂)
@@AaronOfMpls I guess it was more a case of getting Ryanair tickets for 20€ or something, not even checking, then going anyway or something :)
i really appreciate the startle simulation you gave at the end lol that "pull up!" actually made me jump xD great work as always
Another beautiful example of a plane saving itself from a crash, despite its pilots' best efforts to the contrary...
Very enlightening video! Keep up the good work.
You sir are an inspiration! After I started watching your videos my love for aviation increased tenfolds and I am trying to learn more each day. Thank you🎉
Excellent! That makes me really happy to hear.
Have you heard of the incident involving two 737s that were forced to land below minima with almost no fuel in 2013? Would love to see a video on it!
Sounds interesting
The Investigation number of this accident is "AO-2013-100". Google it
Oh yes, I’ve heard plenty about that
Yikes!
Which ones do you mean? Never heard of them!
Salzburg is a great place to demonstrate the GPWS :D
PLEASE do more of the Airbus near-crash incident videos. They’re kinda hard to find because they don’t get any press and the general public doesn’t know/care, but most of them are rather astonishing.
There’s one about a plane that basically did exactly what Asiana @ SFO did on approach, I believe alpha floor and speed prot kicked in, they were so far behind the plane they didn’t even react to the warnings and got the plane within like 4kts of a stall (IIRC) before it finally just took over everything and flew them out of it. The interesting thing about that case is that the protections are actually predictive, they know that even if you aren’t stalling YET, if you wait any longer the engine thrust delay won’t allow adequate power to avoid the future stall, and adjusts the override time accordingly.
People always compare the number of Boeing crashes to the number of Airbus crashes, but never mention the number of AVOIDED disasters (which was basically a huge design philosophy of the A320 family and later models in the first place.) Again, no one really cares about an “almost” crash, so…
I was a passenger on a US flight from Kansas City MO to Pittsburgh PA in the 1980's. The plane suddenly increased power and I felt a climb almost like a take off. It was weird and got weirder when the Pilot apologized over the PA. He said there was another airplane where it wasn't supposed to be. I still feel anxiety and immense gratitude over that. Big Ups for that stuff.
I was on a southwest airlines jet from SFO to PHX once with just me and my director on the entire flight after a conference. It was crazy. The staff was like if you want anything just let us know, we are fully stocked, so you guys can have whatever you want anytime you want! Lol.
They had to get the plane to PHX for another flight and not sure how no one else was booked, if only our company travel portal was bringing up this flight and no other systems did or something.
But we had a long week of drinking and partying and the restful flight was amazing
I watched a couple of days ago the "Rogue Pilots" episode and I can say that the quality and the narative have improved dramatically. Kudos Peter and the team. Great job and great content.
Hi Petter, despite not being a pilot I enjoy your videos for quite a while now!
I work in quality assurance and therefore
I especially appreciate your approach to mistakes and how to deal with them!
I have a similar mindset that a mistake made should be a lesson learned!
Not reporting a mistake is often far more worse than making the mistake.
Another fabulous video Mentour. This incident shows how quickly things can go very wrong if standard operating procedures aren't adhered to and how one mistake can lead to further complications down the road if not rectified early. I also agree with you concerning Airbus thinking of not having linked/force feedback sidesticks and moving thrust levers. Tactile feedback is a valuable thing to have and to not have it in the Airbus limits you to only visual cues, which alone isn't the best, especially when in a very complex situation, even if it's managed quite well in normal operations everyday. And in regards to the dual input warning, with high workload that is either not heard (due to loss of hearing in stress) or cancelled due to stall warning and ground proximity warning activation.
While it's easy to criticize Boeing nowadays for their various problems with their latest aircraft in production, at least they got their flight control system absolutely spot on (excluding how MCAS originally was on the 737 MAX).. Force feedback and synchronized controls and self moving throttle is the way to go. I never understood how unlinked and non force feedback sidesticks and non moving thrust levers was an advance in aviation safety. We have seen enough Airbus accidents and incidents to show that's not the case, especially when it comes to the sidestick. Of course dual control is possible in Boeing too (Egypt Air 961 and Air France 11) but I think the Airbus solution is much worse than having synchronized and backdriven controls.
All that said, Bravo to Airbus for the ability for the Autothrust system giving full power automatically whenever the airspeed gets too low in normal law. This is something I wish Boeing implemented in their aircraft. That's a great safety system right there.
That still doesn't prevent a crash. The Sriwijaya 737 that crashed had one of the thrust levers move back on its own......without the crew noticing
@@tomstravels520 Of course not by itself it'd prevent a crash. I am aware of incidents like the Asiana 777 accident where the levers moved and the crew still screwed the pooch. The purpose is to reduce the possibility of things getting worse with feedback in the controls or aid in resolving matters sooner. If it fails, it fails, but that doesn't mean non feedback controls are the best solution. The mentality should not be "it doesn't matter if an aircraft has all the tactile feedback cause pilots can still crash it despite all the control feedback, therefore we don't need such feedback controls in the Airbus". That isn't the best way of seeing things. Anything that can help aid safety and enhance situational awareness like the airport moving map in the cockpit of modern day aircraft like the A350, feedback controls, Vertical Situation Display etc should be welcomed if it means the chances of an accident happening is decreased.
That's a video that people working outside the flight industry should watch and that exactly the reason why, as an IT professional, I watch Mentour's video and try to learn.
Thank you Petter!
These short dramatic intros keep getting me - good job!! And I'm always glad to hear that there were great learnings to improve safety in aviation, makes me really comfortable - especially when no lives are lost during those "lessons" :) Greetings from Discord :D
Hey Petter, great video as always. Have been watching your videos for years. I just took my first flight ever because I was always really scared. But your videos explaining everything made me feel at ease. I could imagine what was going on during take off and landing. So thank you for all your work.
Worked for Wizzair and flew to Nis quite a lot, it's a tricky one for sure.
I must be honest, the transition from the risk of flying in mountains to the ad was really smooth, well done!
😅😅
Thank you so much for your videos Peter. They are always explained so well on a lay-person level. 🤓🤗🛩️✈️
You are very welcome!
Would be great to see you cover Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801 if possible! The impact on Pyramiden was massive, I visited ten years ago or so and it's just fascinating.
Your videos eased my fears of flying… good job
Excellent, I’m happy to hear that
Best graphics out there in the UA-cam universe. Your thorough explanations of these incidents are highly informative. Thank you 😊
One minor correction, as a software engineer/pilot who has worked in aerospace: WGS84 is not a database. It's the system which maps lat/lng/altitude into points into 3D space. In other words, it's a map projection. Other map projections are things like NAD83 (which focuses on North America) and GCJ02 which is basically the same as WGS84 but randomly warped in China for the sake of "national security."
Points on one datum will differ slightly from points on another, which is why if you look at Google Maps on the Hong Kong/Shenzen border you'll see crazy stuff like buildings in the ocean.
The database that makes EGPWS work is a terrain database. This is something like SRTM (the Shuttle Radar Topography MIssion) which actually tells you the shape of the ground.
simply an awesome video! The aviation specific info, your judgement of the crew performance AND the animations are simply outstanding!!!
Thank you!
I need to watch this video again - it really is startling how things can spiral out of control so quickly even in a well organised situation. Have to say your videos are superbly produced - the visuals certainly brought home how some of the confusion came about. I follow Ryan Farran (Missionary Bushpilot) who flies single handed in Papua New Guinea with very little technical back up. The striking thing is he briefs himself on every aspect of every flight he makes throughout the flight - he has to, as there is nobody else to help him out and he is very aware that in that terrain there is no room for complaceny. It is surprising that at times some commercial airline pilots, even experienced ones fail to do this. Perhaps the systems they operate under induce carelessness?
ah yes, just the video I needed to see a week before my booked Wizz Air flight
My favorite Channel to Watch very informative and perfect to fall a sleep with. You got a calming voice
Man Mentour, you are a bloody legend at this, honestly, I hope you reach 10 million soon
Peter how are you doing? Great video as always here it's a clearer example on how safety must be always the priority and follow standards and training procedures no matters the amount of experience you logged as well as the robust crm habits
Loved it! Really appreciate the tightened polished storytelling, from that earlier version you shared with us patreons! 👍🏼👍🏼The graphics and animations are so great!
Awesome, thank you!
Hey @MentourPilot can you and your team make a video about PSA flight 1771 love your vids and that story would be very interesting
I know there's a lot wrong with the film Sully but i did like the fact that they highlighted the startle issue, even if they did it by basically making things up re the NTSB investigation. I also love the way you constantly remind people of the way this industry operates: be honest, taking the training and get back on the horse. Its something i try to enforce in my workplace.
Dear Petter, always super excited to watch the newest of your episodes. Thanks again for more exciting and well- elaborated information. You and your team's hardwork is highly laudable...❤❤❤😊
that jumpscare, for the first time, make me feel what it meant "warning alarms went off" "workloads", "things get escalated fast", In the cockpit.
Much respect to pilots more than ever before
Love your new, more detailed graphics to explain the flight procedures.
It never ceases to amaze me how you can so fully explain the intricate details of these accidents. Keep up the good work!
Great to hear that you find it helpful.
@@MentourPilot Back in another life, I was a military UH-60 Instructor Pilot. I was lucky enough to learn early on that accidents/incidents are rarely the cause of 'one thing' that went wrong. Thanks again!
Not associated with the aviation industry, but still a frequent flyer and fan of engineering in general. Dina videos är alltid riktigt informativa, riktigt skönt att se full analys från både ingenjör och humant perspektiv. Kör på!
Peter, will you ever cover the Germanwings catastrophe? This accident gave me nightmares for months. It was so bad that I developed a fear of flying, even though I was a frequent flier before. It got to the point where I needed help from a psychologist. The therapy helped me get back on a plane, but some fear always remained-until I found your channel! Now, I'm flying and enjoying it like I did before. I think I’m finally ready to hear your take on that catastrophe. Thanks!
That particular accident is very hard to cover for me. I prefer to cover accidents and incidents where there is a learning point.. but that story is just dark. It was a mass-suicide/murder with nothing positive to draw from.
@@MentourPilot make sense. Thanks for answering and keep up what you are doing. You helping a lot of people!
@@MentourPilot I agree with your take on that, there is nothing to learn, it's just gruesome, sad, and frightening.
@@MentourPilothow about that bek air 2100 crash? That was surrounded in shady details
@@MentourPilot I wouldn't say that. The incident resulted in a slew of new rules implemented by airlines, although a lot of those have been rolled back by some now (including germanwings), presumably because they cost more. It's not like we didn't learn anything from it in terms of operations, we are simply ignoring the lessons (I'll leave it up to debate whether ignoring them is justified).
Nice story telling by making it appear as though a fatal mistake was made only to be pulled out by an Airbus Togo lock I've not heard of before. Thanks for a great video and teaching me something new.
My respect for this great example of the startle effect!
It got me as intended.
Captain Petter, Thank you for yet another absolutely fascinating air incident investigation video. I especially enjoy your European episodes like this one. 5*
thank you for your continued work on these aviation incidents which remind us of the complexity of this field
Thank you for this great informative video. I can't help but understand that even with the most experienced captain, he makes mistakes. Like the captain pulling up on the stick while the first officer is flying, instead of monitoring and telling the first officer to take action. Also during the terrain warning, the captain did not go through the memory items check list and not pay attention to applying the TOGA.
Your videos are super informative! Excellent job! I have learnt a lot about aviation through just your videos.
Glad you like them! My team and k are working hard to provide the best possible content for you guys!
Congrats on 2M+ subscribers!!! And awesome video, as usual!
When I took a stab at designing an autopilot (for a computer flight simulation), it only took me until day 2 to implement a GPWS automatic terrain avoidance. It was an extremely simple system - the plane calculates ground clearance 15 seconds ahead and for every 30 feet below threshold it pitches up 1 degree on top of normal autopilot control or manual input. Even something this simple prevents CFIT and rectifies this exact kind of problem where the navpoint altitude is below ground. So I'm a little baffled that something similar didn't exist in real life airplanes. I mean, I can't possibly imagine any scenario in which GPWS alarm shouldn't automatically result in a terrain avoidance maneuver, vs simply warning the pilots about imminent crash and giving them the option to ignore it.
This would make landings in places like Paro, Split or Funchal next to impossible where these warnings can go off
@@tomstravels520 The alarm is suppressed during landing and takeoff. And even during landing and takeoff you're not exactly meant to intersect flight path with solid ground either way.
Also I was kinda surprised that something as extremely rudimentary as what I threw together as a hobby in a few days was like 50% of the functionality of the real thing: altitude hold, heading hold, and autothrottle. My toy autopilot also had overspeed protection by pitching up and stall protection by pitching down - and that worked well enough in lieu of vertical speed rate. Funnily enough, the fact that I never implemented toggle for autothrottle was for the best, since it always ensured proper speed during climb or dive.
@@michaelbuckers I don't quite know what you're so surprised about as the airbus autopilot does all this. It can even fly a TCAS manoeuvre automatically. The only reason it doesn't autoclimb during terrain alerts is for the exact reason I said, you don't want a spurious warning happening during approach and landing into mountainous terrain. but you still want it to alert you to make sure you're not deviating from the flightpath, not be suppressed
@@tomstravels520 That's exactly what I'm surprised about, that a single hobbyist in less than a week can do a lot of the stuff Airbus does in more than a decade. Then again 95% of the work making an autopilot is figuring out edge cases for the given airplane, and the other 95% is calibrating it to the given airplane so it flies smoothly.
@@michaelbuckers and you tested in on a computer from the last few years more than likely. The A320 uses computers chips from the early 80's.
Amazing story! So much to learn here. Also respect to the channel creator 👍
It's always a good day when a new Mentour Pilot video releases, one of the very few UA-camrs I actually turn on upload notifications for.
Aww, that makes me very happy to hear!
Same, mister Peter has a way to continuosly keep your attention up during his videos. Alert tone and clean speech , the word "now" inserted in presentations adds and increases even more the attention.
Keep up the fantastic work Petter, as an aspiring pilot joining an academy in May 2025, i feel we can all learn from incidents like this one. Thanks for bringing them up and making them accessible to all enthusiasts!
Hello captn. Happy to see U back. One more absolutely wonderful video. From the Flighdeck before my last fly. Hope next video Petter. Fly Safe
I like how this channel consistently helps me with never flying ever again in my life. Thanks!
After the number of times I've seen it on this channel I think even I can now do a terrain escape maneuvere! Pull up, autopilot off, TOGA thrust!
I really appreciate your video's, i love that you've got a committed team and especially love new videos on a sunday morning while i feink my coffee :)
I hope you enjoyed it!
WGS 84 is not a database, it's a coordinate system to project a 3d earth onto a 2d map
it's so weird how suddenly you realise how dependent some pilots are on the AP when stress kicks in. even with more mandatory AP off training on airbuses came around.
and how they kinda "well it just works" not studying or understanding whats the phylosophy behind those systems and what they would do
maybe it's time to implement APs like in fighter jets (it would just do the terrain manuever by itself in this case), but idk maybe this will make the problem even worst
Fantastic video (standard here), excellent material for training (which really happens)!
Would love you to make a video of the Air NZ Mt Erebus crash of 1979. It’s an event that still divides opinions to this day.
I love the use of the Fenix and the L side stick calibration error haha. I had the same issue. I’ll explain the solution if needed :)
It's amazing with almost universal accurate DTMs (digital terrain models) plus GPS that there isn't a cheap independent backup system beyond TCAS that warns if there is terrain ahead within 10 miles on the current heading/descent rate. The AA Colombia flight, AirInter Strassbourg, Crossair Zurich, and near CFITs of BA in Malaysia and AF in Cameroon come to mind.
10 miles is an exaggeration. Many approaches into mountains airports would have the alarm blaring constantly if that was the case. If AA965 had EGPWS they would have likely avoided crash but they only had basic GPWS
First of all, the a/p should refuse to follow a course into terrain.
Secondly, if the a/p is engaged, it should climb as required without having to be disengaged.
Good explanation of what went wrong.
I thought egpws only uses radar-like sensor bounced off terrain
Could you do a format of videos on the mentour now channel in which you talk about the history of specific aircraft manufacturing companies? Btw great video❤
We recently did a three-part series on Boeing. I've also covered a lot of Airbus' history in a NOW video about the A300, if you want to have a look!
@@MentourPilotthanks for answering!❤
Surprised the pilots didn't declare this as a pan pan/mayday..... I mean you nearly fly into a mountain and are well of track. Despite the loss of situational awareness the aircraft did successfully protect the pilots from stalling and pulled the aircraft away from the ground. Definitely think automatically moving throttles and tactile feedback from the sidestick would be a good idea though!
Does show how important briefing the approach, adherence to CRM and good execution of memory items are (espeically with the startle effect - which I think is probably why the terrain escape manouvere was out of the blue.)
I was really waiting for a video with Wizzair as I am a frequent customer for them
Congrat with +2 million followers. Well earned. Hopefully it will make 3 million soon.
33:26 Dear Editor, this one was genius!
Garbage in, garbage out.
Yes, both versions works
I read the sci-fi story about gigo many years ago. I can't remember who wrote it though. I'm old 😸
@@MentourPilot nope
@@SarahBoones13thLawyer
Ah yes.... just "nope" with no explanation or counter. classic contrarian.
Reminded me of George Carlin
Can you make a video if the Air India Flight in Trichy? It happened yesterday and i would love to see a new video about it!
When a final report is out, we might feature it
Thanks mate, huge fan btw! Loved your United Airlines flight 1175 video and the Varig Flight video as well! Your videos are so entertaining! Hope to see your new videos man! ❤
I love it when these super informative videos have happy endings ❤
Me too!