UXWBill Code of Computer Usage: >Real computers have floppy drives >Real computers use PS/2 ports If this doesn't happen, you might find yourself with an IBM PS/2 hitting you in the head, and if that happens to be a Model 95 server, I don't envy you!
Which is why I really want to pry the face plate off of my old gaming PC. It has a 3.5" bay and a floppy controller, but no knockout for it on the face plate!
Bill, the dell dimension 8300 was a very GOOD PC for its time. I OWN one....She even DOES VIDEO conversion to DVD. YOUR NOSTALGIC skills are IMPECCABLE!!! LOVE your show.
LOL, the fan issue was amusing, as well as the optical mouse. I remember when I felt the same way after getting my first optical mouse, the original Intellimouse Explorer. I still use it on my computer at work. Though it can't track rapid motion as well as newer mice, it still feels great in my hand, and has the forward/back buttons exactly where I like them.
Maxxarcade Right now i'm using the world's WORST mouse. it's a 3$ "sweex" mouse, and it is HORRIBLE. it's so damn bad build quality... but you get what you pay for...
I think I know the reason why the Yahoo logo didn't load. Based on the tab design, you're using Firefox with a browser plugin "NoScript" that prevented the logo from showing up on the Yahoo page.
I've always had a soft-spot for these early-mid 2000s Dell machines. I almost bought a Dimension 8300 back in the summer of 2003 but wound up going with a Dimension 2350 because it was more budget friendly and I still have that same machine to this day. Hard to believe it may have been the fan causing those problems in your system all these years (I watched your original video on it back in 2010).
Same here, those were really good machines, and I'm glad to say I have a few variations, the 8200 using rambus memory is a nice one to have handy. I'm glad that you fixed that system, just sorry that it took so long to figure out what exactly went wrong, a defective fan never crossed my mind. as usually I don't have fan issues unless they crap out, (And I have a box full of salvaged case and PSU fans just in case lol)
Heh. I bought a 2400 back in 2003 myself. Still working now, though it doesn't see much action. I too have a soft spot for that era of dell, actually having quite a collection of dell pentium 4 machines (people just keep giving me them!) Also Roadgeek I thought your soft spot was for Packard Bell Machines?
That's interesting. I've had two Dell Dimensions in my lifetime; one of them is believe it or not still alive in my basement; a Dim 4600. I donated the other one, my Dimension E510 from 2006.
I've been watching you for years (I'm Dell0304.) I clicked on this video thinking "oh boy a 19 minute video about a battery..." but as always you never fail to deliver, and I'll never even slightly doubt you again :P
I would like to switch back to he honest, but Now that I have 200+ videos on the new account after a year...I don't really want to have videos scattered between two accounts. I also don't think my viewers would be too particularly happy about the whole thing :P So I'll just stay with this account and leave the old one up, since there is so much content on it.
Damn it Bill. You ruined it by taking the sticker off the battery & telling us. Feels good to find a problem & do an easy fix to something that no on could explain. Enjoy your videos Bill, good down to earth info with plenty of laughs.
I, too, would never had guessed that it was the CPU fan causing all those problems for that long. I have an 8300 myself and, after upgrading it with 2GB of RAM, a 320GB Seagate SATA HDD, and an FX5950 Ultra, on top of its factory 2.8GHz P4HT Northwood, I'd argue that it's faster than my main rig. Seriously, that 8300 FLIES.
Haha, nice and entertaining video! Your videos are fun to watch; they're interesting, and funny. Also, related to this computer, I've got a Dimension 8200. I found the case design quite a discovery when I first tried to figure out how to open it, kind of like my first time figuring out how to open my 1996 server with an AT case. It just so happens that server has an AHA-2940 SCSI card, too, like your system!
My first Dell desktop was actually a Dell Dimension 8300, then it was a Dell E310 and now I use a Dell 570 with a Athlon II x4! Dell makes the best desktop PCs in my opinion!
I'd be really interested in seeing how the original 3.4 GHz CPU performs in it now that you've dealt with the fan! That thing would probably fly! Well, not like any modern dual-core CPU would, but it might make a difference. :)
Duracell really should've used the infamous "Sad Onion" pictogram instead. And I thought I was the only one wise enough to use replacing a clock battery as an excuse for making a computer video? ua-cam.com/video/otziNUwpPEM/v-deo.html
I need to fiddle with my 4300. It's got a real slow P4 1.4GHz (I believe) CPU in it, and it could do with an upgrade. I think it's even bottlenecking my FX5300 GPU (which has a horrendous fan on it but after a little while the noise subsides). It ain't no UA-cam machine but it gets my old games going at least. Now to get my SoundBlaster AudioPCI 64 card working in DOS (It did before, it doesn't now), that would be kick-ass.
The fan power circuitry in that board is obviously very robust. As much as some people knock Dells, I've always found them to have quality parts in them. Better quality than some of the parts enthusiasts put in home-built machines, honestly. It must be gratifying to finally solve this mystery after so long, but frustrating that you didn't get to enjoy this computer at it's best when it was new. A few months ago I was working on an Epox dual slot-1 board which I had bought used with CPUs included. I failed to realize one of the CPU fans had seized, and had already killed one of the fan headers. When I first tested the board, I put that CPU on the opposite socket, thus killing the other header. Great - 2 dead fan headers. Investigation revealed that the transistors on those headers were only rated for a pitiful amount of current - something like 0.12A or thereabouts. They didn't even meet the max amperage rating on the CPU fans, which were nothing special themselves. When that fan seized up, it killed them. I wonder how much money Epox saved on those. I ended up replacing all 3 fan transistors with parts rated for ~2A (the cost was low, so why not). I have no idea how much current I can expect the motherboard's traces to handle though, so I'd be afraid to ever push them near that far.
Hey Bill, how cold is it up and out there in Illinois right now? 30 years ago this month I was at Chanute AFB (near Rantoul) in tech school. 1985 was a particularly cold winter.
Bill, your Dell being sidelined by a simple case fan really reinforces the old adage to check all the obvious solutions first. I had a recent scare thinking my monitor was broken. I was cleaning my desk and discovered the individual switch for the monitor was in the off position! It is a two power strip set-up, with one power strip being one of those old style monitor stands with individual switches. Did you put back the faster CPU on your Dell since you now have a good fan on it?
My wife has/had a Dell E310 from around 2006 or so, and hers did that same fan speed throttle you were talking about in its later years. So now you have me wondering if her fan was on it's way out as well. Hmmm.
I agree. The thing always was packed with dust. The second to last time I cleaned the fan, grill and heatsink is when airplane mode kicked in. We finally replaced the Dell in 2012 with a Asus with Windows 8.
Bill, I hope you are aware that mice, especially optical mice, don't work until Windows starts to load. (Hence why your optical mouse didn't light up until Windows got to the loading screen) Sometimes the mice won't work until Windows gets to the logon screen, therefore having to wait a few minutes until Windows installs the correct drivers in the background. This can happen other things too, such as keyboards.
when did the 8300 come out? we got ours in 2003 which leads me to believe that's when it was released, because i'm pretty sure we got ours brand new when they were released but now i can't remember...
The correct phrase is "slicker than snot in a glass of water" - Do the batteries need to be changed regularly? just wondering. Thanks for the interesting videos and such.
Well that was a supprise, an ill cpu fan causing windows to throttle down the cpu so it didnt explode into a million pieces of boiling hot chip lol. I half expected you to say "a cpu with faulty cache" or a memory problem.....now what was i saying again :). A neighbour used to have a clamshell system, i had to replace the dvd drive as the old one became allergic to disks, i was happy to swapout the old drive for him. I really liked the blue plastic sliders screwed to the sides of the dvd rom, it slid out so nicely and once transfered to the new victim... err dvd drive it went in a treat :-). I dont know what type of dell it was, the old man passed away a few years ago at 85, and his machine was carried away by his family, never to be seen again, it was a nice machine that behaved itself really well :-). Dont i waffle on lol :D
***** Thats a shame, if there is a heaven for computers then its your house and love for all sorts of machines, her machine would have been appreciated.
I have the same computer the 8300, always got the same thing saying system battery voltage is low. I replaced the battery and it still appears on the boot screen. Why is that? And is there any good way to make this computer faster? Mine is super slow I removed as many unnecessary programs as possible.
That must be one of the first computers to include SATA ports. I didn't see them common in desktop computers until 2005 at the earliest. Oh, and I remember the days back when UA-cam was flash based... before this HTML5 nonsense.
Hey Bill! I've got a question, and an answer to your riddle about the Yahoo logo! My question. At the 16:08 time mark, I notice a Dell machine to the left of your keyboard, I can't tell if that's a printer, or some sort of SAS/SATA external enclosure. My response to your Yahoo riddle? The time and date weren't set, and the Yahoo logo couldn't load to your timezone/time? (My only guess is how Windows Update in Win 8 will absolutely not work if the computer doesn't match the timezone for which it is running in)
***** I was close! As for the U.P.S. I am actually surprised that Dell (well, they'd slap their name on it), would get into the U.P.S. business. I've seen Dell make some good hardware (I own a few Poweredges), I would LOVE to get a hold of a U.P.S from Dell!
Are you going to put your old P4 3.4 GHz CPU back in ? Did you clean the machine by blowing the dust out ? Thank you for a GREAT Video ! Eyes UP and lights down, tjl Sent by Win7Pro64 w/ADSL
The reason why the Yahoo! Logo didn't show up is because it requires the RTC to be set to the correct date and time in order for it to show up. If the clock is back 6+ years, the Yahoo! Logo doesn't show up, or if the clock is set to a different time, including the date on the clock, the same thing happens. Bing (Microsoft), Google, Apple, and Yahoo! requires that your RTC is set to your time zone's date and time for their logos to show up, including famous peoples' birthdays (presidents, inventors, artist, etc.), your birthday (Google Minus is required), and events, such as holidays.
I have concluded in my own work that.... The "Orange light of death" can be caused by a bad cmos battery in this model: Dell Inspiron 546. It was a headache to find this issue cause I thought it was everything else. ugg
***** The intended use for mine was 3D CAD work as it was sold new to my dad as a work from home company computer(ie. not cheap) only problem i had with it was it was loud and so hot i cooked pirogies on the CPU heatsink in its last months of daily use.
My 8300 won't turn on... I dont know what it is the problem, Power supply is ok, cables seems to be ok just unplugg evertyhing and replug in. Same light led is ON when Power supply is plugged to the board. Maybe the power button at front is messing around but he's just too damn hide in the chasis no way to acces to that. I didn't see some jumper to power on board. I just spray some alcohol and air to clean the button and i get nothing from that. Any suggestion?
Some diagnosis will be required. The front panel button probably isn't the problem. How did you test the power supply? Dell used good quality, underrated power supplies in these, but the youngest examples are now at least twenty years old. Make a note of where all the wires from the power supply are plugged in. Disconnect them. Not all will be plugged in, which is fine. Find the big connector that was plugged into the motherboard. With the power supply connected to an outlet that you know to work, take a paper clip and short between the green wire in the large connector and one of the black wires. (There is no danger in doing this.) While not a complete test, if the power supply fan runs, it's probably good. Remove the paper clip from the two wires. If you need a new one, the power supply is a standard ATX type. (Older Dell systems used nonstandard power wiring, but this is not one of them. However, the lack of an opening in the case for the on/off switch that many computer supplies have can make life interesting.) Buy a good quality power supply from a reputable maker, of at least 400 watts capacity. If you have to modify the case, take *everything* out of it first and clean up any metal filings *very* thoroughly! Should the power supply check out, reconnect the wiring exactly as it was. It's time to simplify the system configuration. Remove every expansion card except the video card. Remove every memory module except for one. Disconnect any disk drives from the motherboard. Try powering on the system. If it now works, add one device at a time until it doesn't. If the computer keeps working after everything is back in place, you've just found out that sometimes after many years, electrical contacts need to be reseated. If you find damaged components on something, some are repairable and others not. Your Dimension 8300 was manufactured during a time when capacitors were made using a defective formula. Many of them later failed. It's been my experience that this usually won't cause the Dimension 8300 to stop working entirely, but it may become unstable. Capacitors are cheap and can be replaced, though soldering is required and it's not a job I'd recommend if you're new to soldering.
I have that exact adaptec card, two actually as I ended up getting two from the ebay seller by mistake about 10 years ago the second one it still in it's packaging. I had one in my main system until a few months ago when I removed the zip 100 drive from the system.
It's not used as regularly as it used to be. Virtualization was what I used it for then, and still use it for now, with regard to older operating systems. Its legacy ports (data logging meter) and floppy drive (stuff for older computers) also come in handy.
@@uxwbill That computer definitely seems to have had a fairly long life for a Pentium 4 Dimension. I certainly don't see many left in the wild, although they do offer a nice selection of features.
I have that same Microsoft mouse that you do in this video. I only got it to to that zoom feature on one computer. Every other PC i plug it into, it wont zoom. Why?
I had exactly that happen to a dell fan I had, one day, it started running very hot, at very high curents, and then shutting off.Needles to say I burnt out the sucker.
Funny but I've never seen PC's as being something to think about as a make and model. I've never even though about, is it a Dell 8300? Or is it an HP 6910? I've always just seen computers in terms of its components. What's its CPU, GPU, RAM? It seems strange to ask, does a Dell 8300 have good performance? It seems more to the point to ask, is the Intel C2D 6600 fast? Or whatever chip is in it...
You said you can solve just about any computer problem that anyone comes up with. I have a problem. I've got a friend who has a Dell Dimension 8100. Recently i popped the case (just to have a look inside) and accidentally knocked the snap in fan loose. I didn't unplug it. Once i put it back in place and booted the computer up there was nothing on the screen. I don't think the fan incident had anything to to with nothing being on the display but i'm not sure so that's why i brought it up. Anyway when i power on the computer. -The CD drive makes a noise -The hard drive spins up. -You can hear the Windows startup sound but there is nothing on the display. I have tried: -3 Different monitors -Different power cables -Re-seating the RAM Nothing works. Could the Graphics card be bad? It is an nVidia. I know the computer is operational too. Since there was nothing on the screen i pressed the start key then S for shutdown, the enter and the computer powered off. So i know it's a hardware problem not a software problem. I don't know where or how to begin troubleshooting so i need help.
***** The Keyborard works. I know this because i said"I know the computer is operational too. Since there was nothing on the screen i pressed the start key then S for shutdown, the enter and the computer powered off". The mouse works. The Graphics card is not part of the motherboard. It is a separate and is located towards the bottom of the PC.
***** I said before, that i have tried different monitors, different power cables and nothing works. I am not seeing the Dell screen or the Windows ME splash screen. Nothing is on the display.
At my school there is an IBM Thinkcentre with a Pentium 4 and 80Gb hard drive. I could collect more information if needed. Anyway, one day when I powered it on, it boots like normal, while freezing at the BIOS screen. I'm guessing it's because the hard drive is dead and holding back POST. The reason why I think it's dead is that the hard drive light illuminates before the BIOS screen even comes, but it doesn't actually spin up. It won't get far enough into POST to activate the floppy drive, justified by not illuminating the floppy indicator at POST, or the keyboard, because the various "Lock" keys' lights don't do anything. Basically, it boots up, activates the cd drive and the hard drive light, and freezes at the BIOS screen. It will stay there for at least a couple hours. There are no evident errors, not even a beep code. Any ideas?
i still have a running optiplex gx270 running windows 7 with a intel pentium 4 520j processor and 2 gigabytes of ddr ram and it works alright for its age!!!!!
Ricardo The Computer Wizard i have a dell optiplex gx240 with a 1.8 gigahertz p4 but it takes sdram instead of DDR, so that kinda sucks. Windows XP barely ran on it, so now i have 98 SE on it , because i do not own win 2000
Hey uxwbill I have a quick question I was given a dell dimension 8300 from somebody and the computer is complains about a low voltage battery on startup so I replaced the cr3032 battery but the message still pops up saying there is a low voltage battery I read on a old dell fourm that it might be a fault with the 2003 era systems but it also has a few bad caps in the same place where you had bad caps on the video about replacing dell dimension 8300 caps if you can help be at all with this it would be a big help and by the way the system also loses time when unplugged even with the new battery and I also trying bending the prong that holds the battery to see if it could get a better connection but that did not help
uxwbill I checked the battery and I'm getting around 3 volts I also put in a one more battery but it had no difference I bought a pack of 5 energizer cr2032 on Amazon and that's what I have been using on that computer
Before giving up hope on the board, check the password reset or CMOS clear jumpers. People have been known to leave them set. Beyond that, there probably isn't much hope. Good working Dimension 8300 systems and motherboards are still plentiful enough that you might as well replace it if you want one, especially if bad capacitors are not the only problem. I recapped a Dim8300 only for the challenge and experience. These days I'd really have to think about repairing anything based on a Netburst CPU, if that was all it supported.
What became of the other 8300? I've been actually wanting one to mess with, I always liked the 8300, and though I got a GX280 which was simply amazing for the time, I still want to mess with a 8300
The logo on Yahoo's site seems to be the last thing to load in Firefox when you visit the page for the first time. I'm gonna take a guess and say that in your haste to prepare for the video, you stopped the loading of the page when it seemed almost all the way there. You can come up with any creative punishment you want for my reading that text, maybe I'll clean that Model M for you. :P Figuring out what that said through the 480p resolution was pretty fun. Don't forget to wish Windows 2000 a happy 15th birthday!
***** Apparently the cause of the Yahoo logo not showing up was because the clock wasn't set, or at least wasn't set correctly. I could have sworn that you set the clock on that computer. Oh well. According to Wikipedia Windows 2000 was released to manufacturing on December 15th, 1999, and became generally available on February 17th, 2000.
I could only guess that it's a matter of maximum allowable distance from the i875p Northbridge. (I do so wish UA-cam would quit doing whatever it is they're doing with the comments, so I could post replies from a browser that isn't Google Groan and without having to use the "all comments" page.)
***** I know where you're coming from on the whole UA-cam comments thing. I am the maintainer of the Linux From Scratch systemd distribution, so I'm stuck using that most of the time. We just added Chromium, and it was not on good terms. I'd much rather use Firefox or Seamonkey.
***** My guess on the angle is it may be for clearance from the inside of the case. Either that or someone at Intel was all "because I'm the developer, that's why" when designing it.
I have a P4 Dimension 4550 (2.0 Ghz 400 MHz FSB) that I'm thinking of getting a better processor for- because why not. Does anyone know if 2.8 GHZ is the highest I can put in there with that FSB speed? The original battery is still in it btw.
Thanks a lot for the help. I made sure the BIOS and all the drivers were updated back when I reloaded XP right before end of its support. Although it's in retirement, It still looks/works like new and I still keep it for older programs. I just wanted to make sure before I spent any time messing with it.
I'm thinking it may be something related to how the mouse I have does stuff. It worked with an older mouse, but not with my wireless thumb ball mouse (yeah, I'm too lazy to move a mouse).
Rebelkid1112 modern mice do not support PS/2 protocols, so thats why it does not work, i need to stick with a serial mouse on my Pentium 233 because i dont own an old enough USB mouse and also no ps/2 one
Dells used to be so nice. Their Commercial Products are still really great, but unfortunately their consumers products have gone to the wayside long ago (along with many other manufacturers).
DavidH373 lenovo has the same Problem, the thinkpads used to be the best Laptops in my opinion, as i do use a t400 on a daily Basis but everything newer than the t430 went pretty much in the direction in which every laptop Brand went, basically beeing influenced by apples line of laptops called the MacBook ( i do pretty much hate Apple products, but i am also not a fan of Microsoft on the other Hand.)
The problem I always saw with these mid-2000s Dells was extremely poor disk performance. The hard drive transfer speed would degrade over time because the IDE driver kept a lifetime count of errors and would keep downgrading the transfer rate until the hard drives were running in PIO mode and booting took 10 minutes.
***** It definitely doesn't happen on SATA drives where bad cables might cause all kinds of odd behavior but not a permanent slowdown. I never saw it happen to custom built systems with PATA drives either, though the ones I had at the time were basically all AMD.
I have a dimension 4700 witch I don't use any more and the graphics was bad on vga or dvi and I tested on several different monitors and did not perform any better. And I scraped it. Windows vista ( aka crap) was on the machine. I should have left it windows xp. But I found sata and put a new hard drive in it a wd caviar blue 320 gb. And loaded 98 then that was not a upgrade and download 7 and worked perfectly. Then a Emachines died and I put the 120 gb as well in it. It started crapping up on me and the graphics started messing up so I put it out of service and considering how much money I put into it. So I dragged out a windows 7 Emachines but I had one problem and it was very slow. Then I got a Dell inprion 3847 and it was so darn fast and I got it 2 months ago. I will get out them in summer when the Dell dimension sits in summer heat or winter cold. So it shouldn't have acted up in 2014 in summer so that's what it gets.
I think people like to hear you ramble on because yur voice seem t be a comfort thing, or at least that's what I see. Also I have a refurbished Dell Optiplex 755 with a duo core 4 gig ram, and a new Nvidia card (can't remember number off of top of head) the other day when I plugg in my Ipad throught the mic jack to play music throught I aso wrent to play on my train simulator and abut 10 minutes in the system crashes going BZZZZZZZ and no blue screen, just a froze screen the day before the I returned to my PC it had done the same thing only I was idleing. back the flling day I tried to reboot it nothing happened stuck I unplugg the hard drive it boots but the thing beeps to me and show light code saying somethings wrong with the video card. after some how getting it to boot after changing the cable it worked but later crashed again and had t do the same things. I'm just geussing but could it be a hardware conflict with the built in sound the video card?
Yeah, Sorry I don't know were I heard 700 watts that was my mistake, It was 230 watts. any way I tried booting it and installed the new drivers from Nvidia and the computer seem to work better now, I haven't tried my simulatorr yet though.
UXWBill Code of Computer Usage:
>Real computers have floppy drives
>Real computers use PS/2 ports
If this doesn't happen, you might find yourself with an IBM PS/2 hitting you in the head, and if that happens to be a Model 95 server, I don't envy you!
Which is why I really want to pry the face plate off of my old gaming PC. It has a 3.5" bay and a floppy controller, but no knockout for it on the face plate!
Does a USB floppy count?
***** No sir, USB floppies often lack proper emulation
2dfx USB floppies are better than nothing though.
+lmull3 high end gaming motherboards have ps/2 ports due to low latency so do we win?
Of all the things to make a computer act stupid, a fan. THAT is something I've never seen.
well at least it doesn't sound like a coffee grinder i just picked up machine with that problem i enjoy watching your videos as well as uxwbills
Bill, the dell dimension 8300 was a very GOOD PC for its time. I OWN one....She even DOES VIDEO conversion to DVD. YOUR NOSTALGIC skills are IMPECCABLE!!! LOVE your show.
LOL, the fan issue was amusing, as well as the optical mouse.
I remember when I felt the same way after getting my first optical mouse, the original Intellimouse Explorer. I still use it on my computer at work. Though it can't track rapid motion as well as newer mice, it still feels great in my hand, and has the forward/back buttons exactly where I like them.
Maxxarcade Right now i'm using the world's WORST mouse. it's a 3$ "sweex" mouse, and it is HORRIBLE. it's so damn bad build quality... but you get what you pay for...
I think I know the reason why the Yahoo logo didn't load. Based on the tab design, you're using Firefox with a browser plugin "NoScript" that prevented the logo from showing up on the Yahoo page.
I've always had a soft-spot for these early-mid 2000s Dell machines. I almost bought a Dimension 8300 back in the summer of 2003 but wound up going with a Dimension 2350 because it was more budget friendly and I still have that same machine to this day. Hard to believe it may have been the fan causing those problems in your system all these years (I watched your original video on it back in 2010).
I agree. Love these systems! Love the design and everything. I've got a Dell Dimension 4700 and it's been one of the best computers I've ever owned!
Same here, those were really good machines, and I'm glad to say I have a few variations, the 8200 using rambus memory is a nice one to have handy. I'm glad that you fixed that system, just sorry that it took so long to figure out what exactly went wrong, a defective fan never crossed my mind. as usually I don't have fan issues unless they crap out, (And I have a box full of salvaged case and PSU fans just in case lol)
Heh. I bought a 2400 back in 2003 myself. Still working now, though it doesn't see much action. I too have a soft spot for that era of dell, actually having quite a collection of dell pentium 4 machines (people just keep giving me them!) Also Roadgeek I thought your soft spot was for Packard Bell Machines?
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yep same here with the p4 dells, looks like these were used up right to the end of xp support, as office machines.
That's interesting. I've had two Dell Dimensions in my lifetime; one of them is believe it or not still alive in my basement; a Dim 4600. I donated the other one, my Dimension E510 from 2006.
I've been watching you for years (I'm Dell0304.) I clicked on this video thinking "oh boy a 19 minute video about a battery..." but as always you never fail to deliver, and I'll never even slightly doubt you again :P
Yeah, it wasn't really one of my best decisions, but it's far too late now, lol.
Haha good stuff as always
I would like to switch back to he honest, but Now that I have 200+ videos on the new account after a year...I don't really want to have videos scattered between two accounts. I also don't think my viewers would be too particularly happy about the whole thing :P
So I'll just stay with this account and leave the old one up, since there is so much content on it.
Yep! You're awesome!
***** Hey Bill, so I took your advice after thinking about it and went back to my roots!
If only they provided a way to move videos between accounts. That will be cool.
Damn it Bill.
You ruined it by taking the sticker off the battery & telling us.
Feels good to find a problem & do an easy fix to something that no on could explain.
Enjoy your videos Bill, good down to earth info with plenty of laughs.
I, too, would never had guessed that it was the CPU fan causing all those problems for that long. I have an 8300 myself and, after upgrading it with 2GB of RAM, a 320GB Seagate SATA HDD, and an FX5950 Ultra, on top of its factory 2.8GHz P4HT Northwood, I'd argue that it's faster than my main rig. Seriously, that 8300 FLIES.
Haha, nice and entertaining video! Your videos are fun to watch; they're interesting, and funny. Also, related to this computer, I've got a Dimension 8200. I found the case design quite a discovery when I first tried to figure out how to open it, kind of like my first time figuring out how to open my 1996 server with an AT case. It just so happens that server has an AHA-2940 SCSI card, too, like your system!
My first Dell desktop was actually a Dell Dimension 8300, then it was a Dell E310 and now I use a Dell 570 with a Athlon II x4! Dell makes the best desktop PCs in my opinion!
True. In my opinion the Dimension, Optiplex, Inspiron, and Vostro's were the best.
I'd be really interested in seeing how the original 3.4 GHz CPU performs in it now that you've dealt with the fan! That thing would probably fly! Well, not like any modern dual-core CPU would, but it might make a difference. :)
08 Thomas EF it might be as good as a Pentium D, since its hyperthreaded
but as a low end Pentium D of course, nothing that fancy
My dad had a Dimension 8300 he bought new. Pretty much the same specs as yours, sans the ZIP drive. His was also a warranty hell.
4:01 "Candyham"
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Duracell really should've used the infamous "Sad Onion" pictogram instead. And I thought I was the only one wise enough to use replacing a clock battery as an excuse for making a computer video? ua-cam.com/video/otziNUwpPEM/v-deo.html
***** LOL- You've never seen the Ashens channel?
vwestlife An Excellent Comment!
Shadow Warrior Productions Yes, just, yes.
VWestlife 'An Excellent Proposition'
We don't need no stinking software. This is just a computer mouse. haha. I like this attitude, which keeps a computer's life easier.
a couple weeks ago I was given an old 4500 with a 2ghz p-4. it works really good.
Irony of Ironies, I just got an email from Dell (an ad) while watching this video.
I need to fiddle with my 4300. It's got a real slow P4 1.4GHz (I believe) CPU in it, and it could do with an upgrade. I think it's even bottlenecking my FX5300 GPU (which has a horrendous fan on it but after a little while the noise subsides). It ain't no UA-cam machine but it gets my old games going at least.
Now to get my SoundBlaster AudioPCI 64 card working in DOS (It did before, it doesn't now), that would be kick-ass.
The fan power circuitry in that board is obviously very robust. As much as some people knock Dells, I've always found them to have quality parts in them. Better quality than some of the parts enthusiasts put in home-built machines, honestly.
It must be gratifying to finally solve this mystery after so long, but frustrating that you didn't get to enjoy this computer at it's best when it was new.
A few months ago I was working on an Epox dual slot-1 board which I had bought used with CPUs included.
I failed to realize one of the CPU fans had seized, and had already killed one of the fan headers. When I first tested the board, I put that CPU on the opposite socket, thus killing the other header. Great - 2 dead fan headers.
Investigation revealed that the transistors on those headers were only rated for a pitiful amount of current - something like 0.12A or thereabouts. They didn't even meet the max amperage rating on the CPU fans, which were nothing special themselves. When that fan seized up, it killed them. I wonder how much money Epox saved on those.
I ended up replacing all 3 fan transistors with parts rated for ~2A (the cost was low, so why not). I have no idea how much current I can expect the motherboard's traces to handle though, so I'd be afraid to ever push them near that far.
Hey Bill, how cold is it up and out there in Illinois right now? 30 years ago this month I was at Chanute AFB (near Rantoul) in tech school. 1985 was a particularly cold winter.
Bill, your Dell being sidelined by a simple case fan really reinforces the old adage to check all the obvious solutions first. I had a recent scare thinking my monitor was broken. I was cleaning my desk and discovered the individual switch for the monitor was in the off position! It is a two power strip set-up, with one power strip being one of those old style monitor stands with individual switches. Did you put back the faster CPU on your Dell since you now have a good fan on it?
My wife has/had a Dell E310 from around 2006 or so, and hers did that same fan speed throttle you were talking about in its later years. So now you have me wondering if her fan was on it's way out as well. Hmmm.
I agree. The thing always was packed with dust. The second to last time I cleaned the fan, grill and heatsink is when airplane mode kicked in. We finally replaced the Dell in 2012 with a Asus with Windows 8.
Bill, I hope you are aware that mice, especially optical mice, don't work until Windows starts to load. (Hence why your optical mouse didn't light up until Windows got to the loading screen) Sometimes the mice won't work until Windows gets to the logon screen, therefore having to wait a few minutes until Windows installs the correct drivers in the background. This can happen other things too, such as keyboards.
when did the 8300 come out? we got ours in 2003 which leads me to believe that's when it was released, because i'm pretty sure we got ours brand new when they were released but now i can't remember...
The PC I built in 2019 (using brand new, mid-range "gamers choice" components) has PS/2 and even a serial RS232 port... Sadly no floppy drive
The correct phrase is "slicker than snot in a glass of water" - Do the batteries need to be changed regularly? just wondering. Thanks for the interesting videos and such.
Well that was a supprise, an ill cpu fan causing windows to throttle down the cpu so it didnt explode into a million pieces of boiling hot chip lol.
I half expected you to say "a cpu with faulty cache" or a memory problem.....now what was i saying again :).
A neighbour used to have a clamshell system, i had to replace the dvd drive as the old one became allergic to disks, i was happy to swapout the old drive for him.
I really liked the blue plastic sliders screwed to the sides of the dvd rom, it slid out so nicely and once transfered to the new victim... err dvd drive it went in a treat :-).
I dont know what type of dell it was, the old man passed away a few years ago at 85, and his machine was carried away by his family, never to be seen again, it was a nice machine that behaved itself really well :-).
Dont i waffle on lol :D
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Thats a shame, if there is a heaven for computers then its your house and love for all sorts of machines, her machine would have been appreciated.
I have the same computer the 8300, always got the same thing saying system battery voltage is low. I replaced the battery and it still appears on the boot screen. Why is that? And is there any good way to make this computer faster? Mine is super slow I removed as many unnecessary programs as possible.
That must be one of the first computers to include SATA ports. I didn't see them common in desktop computers until 2005 at the earliest.
Oh, and I remember the days back when UA-cam was flash based... before this HTML5 nonsense.
Gotta love these awesome videos!!
Hey Bill! I've got a question, and an answer to your riddle about the Yahoo logo!
My question. At the 16:08 time mark, I notice a Dell machine to the left of your keyboard, I can't tell if that's a printer, or some sort of SAS/SATA external enclosure.
My response to your Yahoo riddle? The time and date weren't set, and the Yahoo logo couldn't load to your timezone/time?
(My only guess is how Windows Update in Win 8 will absolutely not work if the computer doesn't match the timezone for which it is running in)
***** I was close!
As for the U.P.S. I am actually surprised that Dell (well, they'd slap their name on it), would get into the U.P.S. business. I've seen Dell make some good hardware (I own a few Poweredges), I would LOVE to get a hold of a U.P.S from Dell!
hey, do you have any more expansion cards for an optiplex? the one that has the PS\2 ports and an extra serial? i really need one
Ok, I'll check it out thanks bro
I have a dell with a case fan that is doing the same thing. Good tip!! I think I'll try that on mine.
Are you going to put your old P4 3.4 GHz CPU back in ? Did you clean the machine by blowing the dust out ? Thank you for a GREAT Video !
Eyes UP and lights down, tjl Sent by Win7Pro64 w/ADSL
The reason why the Yahoo! Logo didn't show up is because it requires the RTC to be set to the correct date and time in order for it to show up. If the clock is back 6+ years, the Yahoo! Logo doesn't show up, or if the clock is set to a different time, including the date on the clock, the same thing happens. Bing (Microsoft), Google, Apple, and Yahoo! requires that your RTC is set to your time zone's date and time for their logos to show up, including famous peoples' birthdays (presidents, inventors, artist, etc.), your birthday (Google Minus is required), and events, such as holidays.
I have concluded in my own work that.... The "Orange light of death" can be caused by a bad cmos battery in this model: Dell Inspiron 546. It was a headache to find this issue cause I thought it was everything else. ugg
i had a nearly fully specced 8400 it was a beast, 10 years ago.(only got 1GB of ram)
***** The intended use for mine was 3D CAD work as it was sold new to my dad as a work from home company computer(ie. not cheap)
only problem i had with it was it was loud and so hot i cooked pirogies on the CPU heatsink in its last months of daily use.
I got one recently, fully speced wioth a modem, ATI x300 and a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS which was going for around $3000 when i was in 3rd grade.
My 8300 won't turn on... I dont know what it is the problem, Power supply is ok, cables seems to be ok just unplugg evertyhing and replug in. Same light led is ON when Power supply is plugged to the board. Maybe the power button at front is messing around but he's just too damn hide in the chasis no way to acces to that. I didn't see some jumper to power on board. I just spray some alcohol and air to clean the button and i get nothing from that. Any suggestion?
Some diagnosis will be required. The front panel button probably isn't the problem.
How did you test the power supply? Dell used good quality, underrated power supplies in these, but the youngest examples are now at least twenty years old. Make a note of where all the wires from the power supply are plugged in. Disconnect them. Not all will be plugged in, which is fine. Find the big connector that was plugged into the motherboard. With the power supply connected to an outlet that you know to work, take a paper clip and short between the green wire in the large connector and one of the black wires. (There is no danger in doing this.) While not a complete test, if the power supply fan runs, it's probably good. Remove the paper clip from the two wires.
If you need a new one, the power supply is a standard ATX type. (Older Dell systems used nonstandard power wiring, but this is not one of them. However, the lack of an opening in the case for the on/off switch that many computer supplies have can make life interesting.) Buy a good quality power supply from a reputable maker, of at least 400 watts capacity. If you have to modify the case, take *everything* out of it first and clean up any metal filings *very* thoroughly!
Should the power supply check out, reconnect the wiring exactly as it was. It's time to simplify the system configuration. Remove every expansion card except the video card. Remove every memory module except for one. Disconnect any disk drives from the motherboard. Try powering on the system. If it now works, add one device at a time until it doesn't.
If the computer keeps working after everything is back in place, you've just found out that sometimes after many years, electrical contacts need to be reseated.
If you find damaged components on something, some are repairable and others not. Your Dimension 8300 was manufactured during a time when capacitors were made using a defective formula. Many of them later failed. It's been my experience that this usually won't cause the Dimension 8300 to stop working entirely, but it may become unstable. Capacitors are cheap and can be replaced, though soldering is required and it's not a job I'd recommend if you're new to soldering.
I have that exact adaptec card, two actually as I ended up getting two from the ebay seller by mistake about 10 years ago the second one it still in it's packaging. I had one in my main system until a few months ago when I removed the zip 100 drive from the system.
So you have 3 of these machines now right?
Did you reinstall the original CPU after replacing the fan?
No. I traded it out for a Northwood family processor of similar speed and never looked back.
Hi Bill, do you still happen to use this computer on a regular basis? If so, what do you use it for?
It's not used as regularly as it used to be. Virtualization was what I used it for then, and still use it for now, with regard to older operating systems. Its legacy ports (data logging meter) and floppy drive (stuff for older computers) also come in handy.
@@uxwbill That computer definitely seems to have had a fairly long life for a Pentium 4 Dimension. I certainly don't see many left in the wild, although they do offer a nice selection of features.
Anything I buy, I tend to keep it until it's worn out.
@@uxwbill I think that is a great thing to do. The computer systems I own tend to get used well past their normal lifespans.
Got any more computers to 'replace the clock batteries' in?
Good video!
Well, this was a fun video to watch. Just wanted to know!
I have that same Microsoft mouse that you do in this video. I only got it to to that zoom feature on one computer. Every other PC i plug it into, it wont zoom. Why?
***** Ok cool. Not sure if it came with any CD's or not because it was a while back when i first bought it.I noticed your's came with a CD.
I'm almost positive the Dell dimension 8300 has the exact same board as a Dell precision 360 but missing two ram slots
JK I realized you just didn't populate the Black ram slots. In that case they are identical
I had exactly that happen to a dell fan I had, one day, it started running very hot, at very high curents, and then shutting off.Needles to say I burnt out the sucker.
you need the driver for that mouse for tilt scrolling?
well if you wanted to use it i guess you need it unless there is another way to get it working
Funny but I've never seen PC's as being something to think about as a make and model. I've never even though about, is it a Dell 8300? Or is it an HP 6910? I've always just seen computers in terms of its components. What's its CPU, GPU, RAM? It seems strange to ask, does a Dell 8300 have good performance? It seems more to the point to ask, is the Intel C2D 6600 fast? Or whatever chip is in it...
You can say that about prebuilts especially ones from a manufacturer like Dell or Acer.
You said you can solve just about any computer problem that anyone comes up with.
I have a problem.
I've got a friend who has a Dell Dimension 8100.
Recently i popped the case (just to have a look inside) and accidentally knocked the snap in fan loose. I didn't unplug it. Once i put it back in place and booted the computer up there was nothing on the screen. I don't think the fan incident had anything to to with nothing being on the display but i'm not sure so that's why i brought it up.
Anyway when i power on the computer.
-The CD drive makes a noise
-The hard drive spins up.
-You can hear the Windows startup sound but there is nothing on the display.
I have tried:
-3 Different monitors
-Different power cables
-Re-seating the RAM
Nothing works. Could the Graphics card be bad? It is an nVidia.
I know the computer is operational too.
Since there was nothing on the screen i pressed the start key then S for shutdown, the enter and the computer powered off. So i know it's a hardware problem not a software problem.
I don't know where or how to begin troubleshooting so i need help.
***** The Power light is a steady green and all of the diagnostic lights are on and green as well.
***** The Keyborard works.
I know this because i said"I know the computer is operational too.
Since there was nothing on the screen i pressed the start key then S for shutdown, the enter and the computer powered off".
The mouse works.
The Graphics card is not part of the motherboard. It is a separate and is located towards the bottom of the PC.
***** I said before, that i have tried different monitors, different power cables and nothing works.
I am not seeing the Dell screen or the Windows ME splash screen.
Nothing is on the display.
At my school there is an IBM Thinkcentre with a Pentium 4 and 80Gb hard drive. I could collect more information if needed. Anyway, one day when I powered it on, it boots like normal, while freezing at the BIOS screen. I'm guessing it's because the hard drive is dead and holding back POST. The reason why I think it's dead is that the hard drive light illuminates before the BIOS screen even comes, but it doesn't actually spin up. It won't get far enough into POST to activate the floppy drive, justified by not illuminating the floppy indicator at POST, or the keyboard, because the various "Lock" keys' lights don't do anything. Basically, it boots up, activates the cd drive and the hard drive light, and freezes at the BIOS screen. It will stay there for at least a couple hours. There are no evident errors, not even a beep code. Any ideas?
***** Do you know what it would be?
i still have a running optiplex gx270 running windows 7 with a intel pentium 4 520j processor and 2 gigabytes of ddr ram and it works alright for its age!!!!!
Ricardo The Computer Wizard i have a dell optiplex gx240 with a 1.8 gigahertz p4 but it takes sdram instead of DDR, so that kinda sucks. Windows XP barely ran on it, so now i have 98 SE on it , because i do not own win 2000
Well now that you know that the fan was causing the performance decrease, are you gonna reinstall the prescott processor?
***** wow 50 bucks for a prescott? You got good selling skills haha, all the ones locally over here are 15 dollars at most.
***** that would do it haha
Hey uxwbill I have a quick question I was given a dell dimension 8300 from somebody and the computer is complains about a low voltage battery on startup so I replaced the cr3032 battery but the message still pops up saying there is a low voltage battery I read on a old dell fourm that it might be a fault with the 2003 era systems but it also has a few bad caps in the same place where you had bad caps on the video about replacing dell dimension 8300 caps if you can help be at all with this it would be a big help and by the way the system also loses time when unplugged even with the new battery and I also trying bending the prong that holds the battery to see if it could get a better connection but that did not help
Get a DC voltmeter and check the replacement battery.
uxwbill I checked the battery and I'm getting around 3 volts I also put in a one more battery but it had no difference I bought a pack of 5 energizer cr2032 on Amazon and that's what I have been using on that computer
Before giving up hope on the board, check the password reset or CMOS clear jumpers. People have been known to leave them set. Beyond that, there probably isn't much hope. Good working Dimension 8300 systems and motherboards are still plentiful enough that you might as well replace it if you want one, especially if bad capacitors are not the only problem.
I recapped a Dim8300 only for the challenge and experience. These days I'd really have to think about repairing anything based on a Netburst CPU, if that was all it supported.
Wonders when does Uxwbill sleep?
What is that noise in the background? It doesn't sound like a Dimension.
I wasn't sure what it was. That's what it sounded like though. I just couldn't place it.
lol candyham xD
What became of the other 8300? I've been actually wanting one to mess with, I always liked the 8300, and though I got a GX280 which was simply amazing for the time, I still want to mess with a 8300
Ah Okay, it's amazing the fan caused that, probably explains what happened to a GX260 I was working on
Ah, yeah I've noticed the same thing, I've also noticed the parts in the Dimensions in general to be more dependable
The 8300 looks cool but i don't really like the "clamshell" design.
Yeah that's what I like about the 4600 better, those cases aren't half bad compared to the clamshell
***** True.
why does your Dell have a scsi card? did u have a tape backup?
SCSI is more than tape backup. Lots more. And I'm sure you can see at least one possible use in the background of this video.
Hard drive, CDROM, Zip ? (maybe?) External SCSI too.
The logo on Yahoo's site seems to be the last thing to load in Firefox when you visit the page for the first time. I'm gonna take a guess and say that in your haste to prepare for the video, you stopped the loading of the page when it seemed almost all the way there.
You can come up with any creative punishment you want for my reading that text, maybe I'll clean that Model M for you. :P
Figuring out what that said through the 480p resolution was pretty fun.
Don't forget to wish Windows 2000 a happy 15th birthday!
***** Apparently the cause of the Yahoo logo not showing up was because the clock wasn't set, or at least wasn't set correctly. I could have sworn that you set the clock on that computer. Oh well.
According to Wikipedia Windows 2000 was released to manufacturing on December 15th, 1999, and became generally available on February 17th, 2000.
***** The logo was using SSL (for whatever reason), and the computer thought it wasn't a valid certificate?
***** Oh, damn. Didn't think of that. I always thought Yahoo would only use an SSL connection if you were logged in, but it looks SSL is default now.
What is the deal with that slanted RAM slot? I have never seen one before.
I could only guess that it's a matter of maximum allowable distance from the i875p Northbridge.
(I do so wish UA-cam would quit doing whatever it is they're doing with the comments, so I could post replies from a browser that isn't Google Groan and without having to use the "all comments" page.)
***** I know where you're coming from on the whole UA-cam comments thing. I am the maintainer of the Linux From Scratch systemd distribution, so I'm stuck using that most of the time. We just added Chromium, and it was not on good terms. I'd much rather use Firefox or Seamonkey.
With the exception of the slanted RAM, the inside of a Dimension 8300 looks a lot like the Dimension 4500 series.
***** My guess on the angle is it may be for clearance from the inside of the case. Either that or someone at Intel was all "because I'm the developer, that's why" when designing it.
I have a P4 Dimension 4550 (2.0 Ghz 400 MHz FSB) that I'm thinking of getting a better processor for- because why not. Does anyone know if 2.8 GHZ is the highest I can put in there with that FSB speed? The original battery is still in it btw.
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Thanks. I know the 4550 was available with a 533 FSB. The main thing I wondered is if you can use a 533 FSB P4 on my 400 FSB system.
Thanks a lot for the help. I made sure the BIOS and all the drivers were updated back when I reloaded XP right before end of its support. Although it's in retirement, It still looks/works like new and I still keep it for older programs. I just wanted to make sure before I spent any time messing with it.
I have that same adapter...never had any luck with a mouse with it.
I did test it with a real computer (the 2002 machine I used in...wait for it...2002 before I knew how to work with digital video).
I'm thinking it may be something related to how the mouse I have does stuff. It worked with an older mouse, but not with my wireless thumb ball mouse (yeah, I'm too lazy to move a mouse).
I don't think a USB to PS2 adapter can provide enough electricity to power a wireless dongle.
Rebelkid1112 modern mice do not support PS/2 protocols, so thats why it does not work, i need to stick with a serial mouse on my Pentium 233 because i dont own an old enough USB mouse and also no ps/2 one
My friend has a dell dimension 8400
Knowing is half the battle
Ahah! Connecting to Yahoo over HTTPs before setting the time and date, I see? :D
P.S, we are here because we like you, you dork lol :D
Smoke Test!!!! :)
3:34 Nice Dissolve!
I have a dell 2400 what. Max ram pls
+ComputerTechPC's2000 No, 2GB is the maximum supported in a Dim2400.
Dells used to be so nice. Their Commercial Products are still really great, but unfortunately their consumers products have gone to the wayside long ago (along with many other manufacturers).
DavidH373 lenovo has the same Problem, the thinkpads used to be the best Laptops in my opinion, as i do use a t400 on a daily Basis but everything newer than the t430 went pretty much in the direction in which every laptop Brand went, basically beeing influenced by apples line of laptops called the MacBook ( i do pretty much hate Apple products, but i am also not a fan of Microsoft on the other Hand.)
I got it. The clock battery was dead, which in turn set off the time. And stopped the Yahoo page from loading.
Maybe the time did not match the Internet time zone...? Just a guess.
Oh, ok.
The problem I always saw with these mid-2000s Dells was extremely poor disk performance. The hard drive transfer speed would degrade over time because the IDE driver kept a lifetime count of errors and would keep downgrading the transfer rate until the hard drives were running in PIO mode and booting took 10 minutes.
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It definitely doesn't happen on SATA drives where bad cables might cause all kinds of odd behavior but not a permanent slowdown. I never saw it happen to custom built systems with PATA drives either, though the ones I had at the time were basically all AMD.
slicker than snot on a doorknob lol
Smoke test!
I have had my share of strange problems on computers.
Wouldn't been much use to put a emergency number on a the battery, if a kid had already swallowed it :P.
Bill I Iive in the same state as you
I have a dimension 4700 witch I don't use any more and the graphics was bad on vga or dvi and I tested on several different monitors and did not perform any better. And I scraped it. Windows vista ( aka crap) was on the machine. I should have left it windows xp. But I found sata and put a new hard drive in it a wd caviar blue 320 gb. And loaded 98 then that was not a upgrade and download 7 and worked perfectly. Then a Emachines died and I put the 120 gb as well in it. It started crapping up on me and the graphics started messing up so I put it out of service and considering how much money I put into it. So I dragged out a windows 7 Emachines but I had one problem and it was very slow. Then I got a Dell inprion 3847 and it was so darn fast and I got it 2 months ago. I will get out them in summer when the Dell dimension sits in summer heat or winter cold. So it shouldn't have acted up in 2014 in summer so that's what it gets.
I did that as well.
I did everthing even change the video card because the vga port was broken.
Fun fact: you didn't kill power to the second machine :)
I think people like to hear you ramble on because yur voice seem t be a comfort thing, or at least that's what I see. Also I have a refurbished Dell Optiplex 755 with a duo core 4 gig ram, and a new Nvidia card (can't remember number off of top of head) the other day when I plugg in my Ipad throught the mic jack to play music throught I aso wrent to play on my train simulator and abut 10 minutes in the system crashes going BZZZZZZZ and no blue screen, just a froze screen the day before the I returned to my PC it had done the same thing only I was idleing. back the flling day I tried to reboot it nothing happened stuck I unplugg the hard drive it boots but the thing beeps to me and show light code saying somethings wrong with the video card. after some how getting it to boot after changing the cable it worked but later crashed again and had t do the same things. I'm just geussing but could it be a hardware conflict with the built in sound the video card?
well as far as I know the power supply is 700 watts and the mother board didn't seem to have bad caps but I'll check again.
Yeah, Sorry I don't know were I heard 700 watts that was my mistake, It was 230 watts. any way I tried booting it and installed the new drivers from Nvidia and the computer seem to work better now, I haven't tried my simulatorr yet though.
They're sniffing condoms now so I'm sure some will start eating batteries sooner or later.
This machine needs a bit of a blow out.
Wrong date and time