@@4eeyore266 That's from 'Halo: Legends", an anime anthology produced by 343. That slips was specifically from "The Babysitter", one of the episodes in the anthology.
The whole concept of bad ass people jumping into combat FROM SPACE is just so AWESOME. I love sci fi with cool military groups and the ODST are high up there in my favourites...
Warhammer has something similar with imperial guardsmen. Instead of pods they modify gravity in a distinct point. They deploy like how covenant come out of their ships onto those gravity pads. Guardsmen do it in the hundreds if not thousands with their own shock troop equivalent: the Kasrikin.
Hence, they took inspiration from Starship Troopers, in which Hollywood utterly failed to take advantage of the drop pod method from the book into the movie back in the 90s. Luckily, Bungie took that concept for creating the ODSTs into Halo genre, alongside some hints of the Marines from the Aliens series.
@@SolidAvenger1290 That's neat. I haven't read the book but I like the movie since I'm a Verhooven fan. Really too bad the movie isn't that faithful to the book
I love the ODSTs, in every Halo game with armor customisation I will always choose a helmet that is as close to ODST-like as possible, they just have the best looking helmet/visor of all the UNSC forces.
The lack of spartan specific heavy guns is an actual problem. If you have what is basically a walking tank why are you arming it with small arms. Especially if what you are fighting takes a lot of small arms fire to kill? Real world they would have large high caliber weapons specifically designed for spartan use. Think about the mounted turret in halo those in a real world scenario would probably be upscaled and modified into a standard spartan rifle. The sniper rifle spartans use would be a highly modified and accurate anti-tank rifle. Their pistols would shoot literal shotgun slugs.
@@hirokasonova7059 Huh. I never thought of that. I can see them justifying not doing that during the war because there's only a couple dozen of them, but the IVs are another matter entirely.
@@autumngottlieb3071 the only time that the lack of higher yield weapons is justified was when humanity didn't know the covenant existed. The longer your men have to shoot at a target to kill it the chance that it will fire back and kill your men is basically exponential. Even if it didn't fire back in time they would still have higher risks due to how long it took. Sure standard issue weapons can't be upscaled to the point of being unwieldy for the average soldier but an upscaling would be made. With the amount of funding the Spartan program has it would have specially designed spartan issue weaponry. Then again there's alot of issues with the military equipment in halo that irks me like the single manned scorpion tank. I know its partially because of those things being a problem of when it was made but war has an ability to paramount innovation and I wished halo portrayed that aspect better.
I actually love that you showed Cod: Infinte Warfare gameplay because I was recently replaying the campaign as a stand-in for the insurrection conflict since we don't have a Halo game for that conflict yet. The games storyline is basically a small scale version of what occurred in Halo
@@elijahwatson3474 ... if you think about it... it fits. Innies had succeeded mars and were a threat, it took our boys that are green and very, very mean marines
The footage is directly from that livestream, actually. I spent 30 minutes downloading the 7-ish hour stream, then scrolling through it to find the "right" footage.
@@HaloCanon thanks for this. I remember reading Fall Of Reach and some ODST's were being quite confrontional and attacked John (while he was still a kid.) He killed 2 i think and injured the others with Broken bones. I remember one of the ODST's said "He's one of them"
@@harrisonnightingale6600 Tricia Helfer (the voice of Veronica Dare) wasn't a member of the Firefly cast. She was also not in the show's movie sequel Serenity. (This is taken from IMDb which is a very reliable site)
Faison was one of my favorite ODSTs from the books. He was such a cool character. He and his unit gave Captain Keyes an honorary ODST tattoo after their first op together. It’s sad to realize the Arbiter was the one who killed him.
That was such a cool swerve. An iconic moment in the EU novels that I absolutely didn't see coming. RIP Captain Keyes and his beloved tobacco pipe, The Flood took you too soon. Faison was a bad ass, the only person who was a total asshole to Chief, but you could tell it was just him standing up for his men, and being bitter that John wasn't punished after he "Neutralized" 2 of his troops in the gym encounter. And damn if he didn't go out like a soldier himself, talking shit to the Covenant to bait as many ships as possible near their stolen frigate before the Shiva Nuke detonated. Great character...
Great video! Even though I'm well-versed in Halo lore, it's always a treat to watch your videos - they're far more entertaining than endlessly scrolling through walls of text on Halopedia!
For the people who want an ODST battle royale, you guys shouldn't try to simply conform to the battle royale standard, but think up something more unique. For example, a 100+ player mode that is basically big team battle/ invasion where playable units would drop in the battlefield in either covenant or ODST drop pods and fight one another, and at the same time, a flood outbreak occurs somewhere on the map and it turns into a giant game of infection. Like a 2 way war that slowly turns into just trying to survive the flood onslaught as they consume all of the fallen soldiers.
Speaking of things that are "absent from view" in the Halo universe, I would really love to see more lore about the UNSC Army and Air Force, and the special units in UNICOM SPECWARCOM. It's not all Marines, Spartans, and ODSTs.
@@VegetaLF7 Yeah, and it's a shame how little it showed us of the Army and Air Force. Tons of more casual fans play through the whole game multiple times without realizing that those guys aren't Marines. The game is too focused on Noble Team to give any airtime to the Army or SPECWARCOM. About the only thing it added was that the Army prefers DMRs to Battle Rifles. I would have loved for the Army to get a moment like Sergeant Johnson's speech in the beginning of Halo CE, establishing to the player just who it is you're fighting alongside. Instead we got Colonel Holland who never even appears on screen. Also, I think the friendlies in Pillar of Autumn in Reach are technically Marines, even though they look the same as Army. And the guys in Long Night of Solace are probably Air Force. The game just never bothers to tell you.
*Especially* the Air Force, since I'm a fighter craft nut. Seriously, we need an Ace Combat/TIE Fighter style game about an elite squadron of UNSC pilots flying Longswords, Shortswords, and others.
@@commissarcactus1513 yeah very much agree. The navy and marines may have thought the army didn't do enough to be on the monument of 3 but they would have been the primary force defending EVERY planet the covanent found from start to finish. Just because they aren't involved in offensive war doesn't mean they were sitting around doing nothing.
ODSTs are honest to god Marines. Change my mind. P.S. You left out the Midsummer Night mission with Keyes btw. Not sure if it was intentional in being brief with the overall history.
I was intentionally being brief about the individual operations. I mentioned a few key events to make certain points, but that was all. I did think about the stuff from "The Cole Protocol", but I couldn't really make it fit.
I still remember the first time I played ODST all those years ago with it being my first Halo game; Hell I even have the ODST symbol as my first tattoo and I always get happy anytime that they're brought in during a mission and I'm hoping that they're brought back in Infinite
Bruh, how could you not mention the man, the myth, the legend himself - Michael Baird? Dude singlehandedly took on a covenant strike force that commandeered his destroyer, and stopped them from discovering Earth. He's not just an ODST, he's the most badass non-augmented human in Halo. CCMM
I remember watching Halo Legends when I was younger. I don't remember much about the episode with the single spartan and the ODSTs, but I do remember the Spartan saying "take the shot" and the ODST realizing that his childhood friend that went missing was kidnapped and turned into a Spartan. And now she was dying. Makes me real sad thinking about it.
@@wholesome_masochist4113 I thought so, I mean there was this whole flashback scene when he say her face after the Brute got her. Unless Mandela effect strikes again, that's what I remember watching.
Last night, I dreamed I was going through my DVD collection and I found that I owned five copies of Halo Legends on DVD and one copy on blu-ray. And now Halo Canon comes along, generously using footage from my favorite episode of Halo Legends in a video about one of my favorite subjects in Halo. I think both my subconscious and fate are telling me to watch Halo Legends again.
Is there room for ODSTs in Infinite? Certainly on the ring, but there aren't exactly anymore orbiting platforms from which to drop from anymore, right? lol.. Great breakdown as always! This isn't really the place, but I still don't understand why everyone wants an ODST battle royale mode. Yes, they drop out of the sky, but why would they be killing each other? And how would that be any different from any other BR mode? A COD Warzone with slightly future weapons? An Apex without all the abilities and movement? I will continue to push my fringe proposal of a grunt battle royale lol.. The first FPS where you waddle..
If only our UN was actually this level headed and got its priorities straight of uniting humanity, instead of a parliament full of corrupt-crackhead individuals. We could've had a unified and single military faction for humanity.
@@danisrusski6297 "for conflicts between states" sounds like you don't even know why militaries are established and why they were created in the first place. If militaries are for "conflicts" in ur sense then you need to recheck urself lmao
I think that other than the scalpel simile, there's also the fact that Spartans have a reputation of being out-and-out heroes akin to Captain America. Naturally, ONI wouldn't want to jeopardize this reputation by risking sending a spartan on a classified mission that would earn public ire and rebellion if they were to be made public, *doubly* so if the mission involves assassinating figures that ONI deems as "unsavory".
I love Spartans and all but after Halo 3 ODST came out and became my favorite Halo game and story. I've always liked seeing ODSTs and seeing the stories they participated in. Heck even the Babysitter from Halo Legends is my favorite story in there because for me it was the first time I saw outside of the games how ODSTs potential felt about them. I say potentially mainly for the context when I saw Legends. Hope they reemerge in Infinite!
I believe in Halo First Strike that John once stated that take away augmentations and armour there wasn’t a great deal of difference between an ODST and a Spartan. And I think this is true. I think there’s some truth to the ODST view of Spartans as the ones who took all the glory while they contributed highly to the war effort which when compared to the Spartans is largely unrecognised. Which is why it frustrates me that when we were told that the best went to become SIVs this was completely brushed over and the SIVs at least in the beginning came off as highly underwhelming especially considering they’re supposed be ex ODSTs.
I wonder if the resentment between the 2 will ever disappear. Most of the hatred the ODSTs have toward Spartans was due to ONI, sending ODSTs to indirectly get them to fight John to test out his augmented body and overflooding the media with propaganda involving Spartans, greatly overshadowing the achievements and sacrifices of the ODSTs
@@joelmanning249 well yeah. It's hard to get it away when Spartans still take most of the spotlight from the ODST, undermining their contribution. But indeed it got lessened due to the Spartan IVs being usually experienced ODSTs who were likely worthy of being selected
@@granmastersword yeah, the oni lapdog ODSTS got bodied and whined about it. Sucks that that was a lot of ODSTs first impression of Spartans. A few of their own bad apples spoiled the relationship the two could’ve had. We see it happen anyway with Chief when he meets some rad ODSTs
I just started playing this again. It's in my top 3 halo games. I'll never forget that it was what destroyed my Xbox back in the day. I got the RROD 45 minutes into my first play through lol. Salty McNalty!
I much prefer ODST’s to Spartans and you used the same line that always use to explain why: “They are the best Humanity has to offer without augmentations”
Great video. I love ODST and always have. Theyre such a cool and iconic part of Halo. Honestly what I've always wanted to see is an ODST themed turn-based tactical like XCOM
any military worth their salt would make sure have few if not several special forces in their military. Spartans & Odsts being the main faces of the unsc both having place in the military. Spartans are far more expensive so it would be easier to improve the equipment the odsts have in my opinion. Especailly post-war where they could incoperate more of spartan armor technology iunto teh odsts armor. Perhaps even getting their own shields at some point too and slightly more durable armor which help increase the survival rate.
I know from “Shadows of Reach” that there were still ODSTs stationed on Infinity at the time. They’re likely still around because it’s cheaper and easier to train and equip them than it is to train and equip a Spartan.
Very much based on the paratroopers of ww2. Those were the real force to be reckon with and very much the peak of military might. Knowing fully well that they are to be dropped into combat behind enemy lines surrounded and have to hold out before reinforcements they pretty much have to do all the roles of a grounded unit. Need to be specialised in engineering, infantry combat, sabotage, demolition etc except for piloting and other air force roles. The guts it takes to volunteer into such positions are nothing but respectable
My headcanon is that they are the direct descendants of the original paratroopers from ww2 which then gave birth to the Halo Jumpers in today's modern world where the jumpers "come down from the heavens to make sure the battle goes in the factions favour!" And then the Hell jumpers are the next group jumping "beyond the heavens and falling straight into Hell to take out whatever demons threaten the human civilization!" Has a bit of mythology to it if you ask me and I believe that is welcome when referring to all 3 eras of jumping from the "skies and beyond!"
Personally I've always seen ODSTs as mini Spartans, and love their representation within the Spartan community. And I feel that that the Spartan IV program was a way to reintroduce the ODSTs in a new light, having dedicated Spartan IV ODST teams or even regiments. I've been running ODST armor since Halo 3. Easily my favorite chunk of Lore.
my favorite helmet to wear in any of the halos that have them is the ODST helmet, its just cool to have that spartan/ODST hybrid and I think it would be cool to see a another story with spartan and ODSTs
Personaly I never felt that the Spartan 4s replaced the ODSTs. ODSTs are special ops troopers, dropped into hot zones to work sabotage, while Spartan 4s were shock troopers, flew in on Pelicans and made sure to draw in the fire. Honestly I thought they complement each other. Spartan 4s can draw the fire and attention of the enemy while ODSTs drop in from behind to do massive damage to the enemy from behind
The odst should be a thing in infinite, like call em in, and people in a queue can join in and drop on a match as odsts... these are the gameplay ideas they need....
As someone who has only recently got back into Halo after Halo 5 left me... Uninterested in the series for lack of a better term despite absolutely adoring every Halo prior to it(Yes even 4, hell part of me likes 4 more than Reach even if Reach has better multiplayer), finding this channel and playing thru the MCC with a good friend reignited my love for this series. Thank you for this
I imagine for Americans at least it's easy to think of it like this. Say Super Soldiers became a real thing. You would still have the Rangers, SEALs, Green Berets, Delta Force etc. These organisations are massive and have useful everyday functions. You can also consider the $$$ factor. One Spartan probably costs more than a full squad or platoon of ODST's. Not every situation calls for the nuclear option.
i love the Idea of the ODST! They are Badass and even quite realistic? I even bought an ODSt Armor/Costume because it looks so cool! but the Halo 4 Design is just ugly...... and they even killed Commies! how much more can you wish for hahaha
I mean the ODSTs are futuristic paratroopers, same concepts but via spaceship. Fun fact, the Mobile Infantry in the Starship Troopers book deployed in their suits the same way, via drop pods instead of a landing craft.
Medal Of Honour Game But With ODST’s. Squad Level Combat Would Be Awesome, Command A Squad To Suppress A Position While You Flank Around A Building Ugh 343 Please!!!
I think that a ODST and Marines Battle Royale built from the ground up with the full Halo sandbox would be great. That, and a Flood horror story that stars that guy that first tried to retrieve the index while it also follows Sgt Johnson's ordeal with the Flood when Keys gets taken. It would be a great excuse to play as Johnson. I miss him...
With the mass production of Spartans via the Spartan-IV program it seems that ODSTs became more of a support role for Spartan units or like becoming the Tier 2 SF units. Spartans became the Tier 1 unit like Delta, DEVGRU, SAS or Spetsnaz with doing dangerous jobs, while ODSTs became Tier 2 units like Force Recon, Airbone Pathfinders, Army Rangers and etc.
I've always been a huge fan of the ODST's and I've always loved the ODST's more than the Spartans. My very first Halo game was ODST as well!. Anytime we get more ODST action or content, I'm always excited to see it.
god If I ever met Lt Mckay in real life I would give her 100 salute. Aside from Buck and Rookie she is one ODST that I respected the most. Without her earth definitely will not survive
The problem with ODST’s is the cost factor compared to the performance of Spartans. It doesn’t cost that much more to create 4th Gen Spartans. Considering the influx of Spartans now, the economy of scale factor drives the cost down so much you can get 10x the result for only 2x the cost of a ODST. They have a great history to them and hopefully that history is used in the Spartan training programs going forward in the lore
So the ODSTs have a rivalry with the Spartan 2 program. How was their relationship with the SIIIs? Would they even be aware of the difference between the SII and SIII programs?
The S-III program remained a secret during the war, but any interaction with an S-III (such as members of Noble Team) would likely be thought of as an S-II.
No matter how many super soldiers are needed or made, it always ends up coming down to just us, it will always come down to us, from start to finish, the grunts on the ground, the men and women with only the will to fight, we will always be the ones you will want when taking the fight headlong at the enemy, when either a world is taken or defended it's always on us!
Thing I love about the ODSTs is that IRL if we can develop the tech to make it possible and we ever get space warships, they’re a logical strategy, you got a ship in the sky, just fly above the enemy and drop down units. Paratroopers taken to an insane degree.
The ODST’s all need to be equipped with the Nightfall Power Armor especially the Black Daggers and other SAB’s (Space Assault Battalions), it’s about time that the ODST’s and Army Airborne and Rangers get upgraded and a new ODST game introducing units from the three will be great. Halo Wars 3 will hopefully take place between the Ark and Zeta Halo
Dude, don't get me wrong here I love Halo with all my heart but are u REALLY USING CALL OF DUTY CLIPS IN HALO!?!?? 😂 It looks cool... but still. Not cool bro.
Quick correction: ODSTs first appear in "Halo: The Fall of Reach", making them as connected to the franchise as Spartans from day 1.
Thanks, I was literally thinking that
5:49 also Unconcentional Warfare.
And the way they iconically deploy is established in halo the flood
5:40 what’s the show name? Is it official or fan made?
@@4eeyore266 That's from 'Halo: Legends", an anime anthology produced by 343. That slips was specifically from "The Babysitter", one of the episodes in the anthology.
Having an ODST squad would be so cool in Infinite. Like a resource to call in at forward bases on Zeta Halo
Yeah and it be really cool to customize them too
hell yeah, i'd love to continue the tradition of attempting to keep my brODST's alive
Defo cool as heck. Considering were having an openworldish campaign.. Kinda like farcry imo.
Arby would be so cool to have. BEING the ODST would be cooler than being another spartan
ODST's definitely deserve a campaign DLC in Halo Infinite.
I do honestly hope we see ODST's make a return in Infinite. Having them absent from 4 and 5 (no, Buck doesn't count) always felt weird.
In one of the trailers for Infinite, the one where we see a bunch of IFF's in space going to "deceased", some of them are ODST. So, probably.
Buck a spartan now friend, no longer odst, than again he was to be spartan and turned it down, but I do know wht u mean
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I always love fighting alongside my boys. I try to keep them alive whenever I see them.
I'm sorry to bring you the news
The whole concept of bad ass people jumping into combat FROM SPACE is just so AWESOME. I love sci fi with cool military groups and the ODST are high up there in my favourites...
Mandalorians in OG Star Wars on Basilisk Droids 😎 So rad
Warhammer has something similar with imperial guardsmen. Instead of pods they modify gravity in a distinct point. They deploy like how covenant come out of their ships onto those gravity pads. Guardsmen do it in the hundreds if not thousands with their own shock troop equivalent: the Kasrikin.
Hence, they took inspiration from Starship Troopers, in which Hollywood utterly failed to take advantage of the drop pod method from the book into the movie back in the 90s. Luckily, Bungie took that concept for creating the ODSTs into Halo genre, alongside some hints of the Marines from the Aliens series.
@@SolidAvenger1290 That's neat. I haven't read the book but I like the movie since I'm a Verhooven fan. Really too bad the movie isn't that faithful to the book
The We Are ODST trailer was some of the best Halo marketing till this day!
A-fucking-men!
@@HaloCanon I really hope and wish they are not disregarded in the live action show.
@@madjoe9679 the fucking WHAT
The song from it is called the politics and the life.
Welp, gotta go watch it again, now...
I love the ODSTs, in every Halo game with armor customisation I will always choose a helmet that is as close to ODST-like as possible, they just have the best looking helmet/visor of all the UNSC forces.
They just hit that sweet spot in terms of looks
As an ODST enthusiast/Nerd, this literally made my day. Thanks for covering/touching the deep aspects of ODST's dude!
You and me both
same odsts are cool asf
My favorite part about ODSTs is that just because their bodies are weaker than Spartans' bodies, their bullets are also weaker than Spartans' bullets.
Spartans just pull the trigger harder.
The lack of spartan specific heavy guns is an actual problem. If you have what is basically a walking tank why are you arming it with small arms. Especially if what you are fighting takes a lot of small arms fire to kill? Real world they would have large high caliber weapons specifically designed for spartan use. Think about the mounted turret in halo those in a real world scenario would probably be upscaled and modified into a standard spartan rifle. The sniper rifle spartans use would be a highly modified and accurate anti-tank rifle. Their pistols would shoot literal shotgun slugs.
@@hirokasonova7059 Huh. I never thought of that. I can see them justifying not doing that during the war because there's only a couple dozen of them, but the IVs are another matter entirely.
@@autumngottlieb3071 the only time that the lack of higher yield weapons is justified was when humanity didn't know the covenant existed. The longer your men have to shoot at a target to kill it the chance that it will fire back and kill your men is basically exponential. Even if it didn't fire back in time they would still have higher risks due to how long it took. Sure standard issue weapons can't be upscaled to the point of being unwieldy for the average soldier but an upscaling would be made. With the amount of funding the Spartan program has it would have specially designed spartan issue weaponry. Then again there's alot of issues with the military equipment in halo that irks me like the single manned scorpion tank. I know its partially because of those things being a problem of when it was made but war has an ability to paramount innovation and I wished halo portrayed that aspect better.
I mean, wasn't the Spartan Laser designed in the same program as the Gungnir variant? Or was it Hayabusa?
I actually love that you showed Cod: Infinte Warfare gameplay because I was recently replaying the campaign as a stand-in for the insurrection conflict since we don't have a Halo game for that conflict yet. The games storyline is basically a small scale version of what occurred in Halo
Could say its the first insurrection, with the spademcommies and as fascist
He did a live stream about a couple of years ago and jokily called it Halo interplanetary wars.
@@elijahwatson3474 ... if you think about it... it fits. Innies had succeeded mars and were a threat, it took our boys that are green and very, very mean marines
The footage is directly from that livestream, actually. I spent 30 minutes downloading the 7-ish hour stream, then scrolling through it to find the "right" footage.
@@HaloCanon thanks for this. I remember reading Fall Of Reach and some ODST's were being quite confrontional and attacked John (while he was still a kid.) He killed 2 i think and injured the others with Broken bones. I remember one of the ODST's said "He's one of them"
I love how halo 3 odst is basically just an episode of Firefly since Buck, Dutch, and Mickey are all voiced by Firefly cast members
Right?!
I remember people criticizing it for that, idk why since Firefly is great
Don’t remind me I miss both 😭
You forgot veronica she's voiced by one of the female cast members of firefly
@@harrisonnightingale6600 Tricia Helfer (the voice of Veronica Dare) wasn't a member of the Firefly cast. She was also not in the show's movie sequel Serenity.
(This is taken from IMDb which is a very reliable site)
Faison was one of my favorite ODSTs from the books. He was such a cool character. He and his unit gave Captain Keyes an honorary ODST tattoo after their first op together. It’s sad to realize the Arbiter was the one who killed him.
That was such a cool swerve. An iconic moment in the EU novels that I absolutely didn't see coming.
RIP Captain Keyes and his beloved tobacco pipe, The Flood took you too soon.
Faison was a bad ass, the only person who was a total asshole to Chief, but you could tell it was just him standing up for his men, and being bitter that John wasn't punished after he "Neutralized" 2 of his troops in the gym encounter. And damn if he didn't go out like a soldier himself, talking shit to the Covenant to bait as many ships as possible near their stolen frigate before the Shiva Nuke detonated. Great character...
Great video! Even though I'm well-versed in Halo lore, it's always a treat to watch your videos - they're far more entertaining than endlessly scrolling through walls of text on Halopedia!
Glad to hear it!
"Death by drop pod malfunction"
A fate worse than death.
For the people who want an ODST battle royale, you guys shouldn't try to simply conform to the battle royale standard, but think up something more unique. For example, a 100+ player mode that is basically big team battle/ invasion where playable units would drop in the battlefield in either covenant or ODST drop pods and fight one another, and at the same time, a flood outbreak occurs somewhere on the map and it turns into a giant game of infection. Like a 2 way war that slowly turns into just trying to survive the flood onslaught as they consume all of the fallen soldiers.
Holy crap, that sounds awesome. I’m sad even thinking about this not being a thing.
Speaking of things that are "absent from view" in the Halo universe, I would really love to see more lore about the UNSC Army and Air Force, and the special units in UNICOM SPECWARCOM. It's not all Marines, Spartans, and ODSTs.
At least in Halo: Reach the ground forces we see and fight alongside are UNSC Army (except for the Bullfrog ODSTs).
@@VegetaLF7 Yeah, and it's a shame how little it showed us of the Army and Air Force. Tons of more casual fans play through the whole game multiple times without realizing that those guys aren't Marines. The game is too focused on Noble Team to give any airtime to the Army or SPECWARCOM. About the only thing it added was that the Army prefers DMRs to Battle Rifles. I would have loved for the Army to get a moment like Sergeant Johnson's speech in the beginning of Halo CE, establishing to the player just who it is you're fighting alongside. Instead we got Colonel Holland who never even appears on screen.
Also, I think the friendlies in Pillar of Autumn in Reach are technically Marines, even though they look the same as Army. And the guys in Long Night of Solace are probably Air Force. The game just never bothers to tell you.
*Especially* the Air Force, since I'm a fighter craft nut. Seriously, we need an Ace Combat/TIE Fighter style game about an elite squadron of UNSC pilots flying Longswords, Shortswords, and others.
@@commissarcactus1513 yeah very much agree. The navy and marines may have thought the army didn't do enough to be on the monument of 3 but they would have been the primary force defending EVERY planet the covanent found from start to finish. Just because they aren't involved in offensive war doesn't mean they were sitting around doing nothing.
The army paratroopers would be a cool unit to see,maybe they wear sci for ww2 101 82nd uniforms/battle gear
Hahaha, using gameplay from Infinite Warfare. Golden.
I never thought of it but infinite warfare could work as a interesting interplanetary wars fiction if you stretch it a bit
I was wondering where that was from haha.
Appropriate given how the story of Infinite Warfare has coincidently a story that matches up with the conflicts in the Solar System in Halo.
@@KhrZygarde That's what I do. What else can you do when you literally play as the UNSA or whatever it was.
ODSTs are honest to god Marines. Change my mind.
P.S.
You left out the Midsummer Night mission with Keyes btw. Not sure if it was intentional in being brief with the overall history.
I was intentionally being brief about the individual operations. I mentioned a few key events to make certain points, but that was all. I did think about the stuff from "The Cole Protocol", but I couldn't really make it fit.
@@HaloCanon
Roger.
Well they are. They are literally the special operations of the UNSC Marines. It's like how Navy SEALs are still sailors.
I still remember the first time I played ODST all those years ago with it being my first Halo game; Hell I even have the ODST symbol as my first tattoo and I always get happy anytime that they're brought in during a mission and I'm hoping that they're brought back in Infinite
Bruh, how could you not mention the man, the myth, the legend himself - Michael Baird? Dude singlehandedly took on a covenant strike force that commandeered his destroyer, and stopped them from discovering Earth. He's not just an ODST, he's the most badass non-augmented human in Halo. CCMM
Captain Cro-Magnon!
I need some of them rumble drugs he takes! 😂 Took on a whole army!
This might sound weird but I really love your thumbnails and titles bro. Their so clean, organised and creative
Thank you! I absolutely aim to please :)
Please do a video on the UNSC Army. The Army troopers are VERY underrated.
I do have plans for something like that
It's not hell it's "heck" we need to keep this family friendly guys. Heck jumpers.
LOL
I remember watching Halo Legends when I was younger. I don't remember much about the episode with the single spartan and the ODSTs, but I do remember the Spartan saying "take the shot" and the ODST realizing that his childhood friend that went missing was kidnapped and turned into a Spartan. And now she was dying. Makes me real sad thinking about it.
Hang the fuck on, Cal was a childhood friend of one of the ODDTs?! My guess is O'Brien, but since when?!
@@wholesome_masochist4113 I thought so, I mean there was this whole flashback scene when he say her face after the Brute got her.
Unless Mandela effect strikes again, that's what I remember watching.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Guess we’re the desperate measures.
Last night, I dreamed I was going through my DVD collection and I found that I owned five copies of Halo Legends on DVD and one copy on blu-ray. And now Halo Canon comes along, generously using footage from my favorite episode of Halo Legends in a video about one of my favorite subjects in Halo.
I think both my subconscious and fate are telling me to watch Halo Legends again.
It was the best of the series. I didn’t like the animation styles of the other stories besides maybe cortana. It felt natural to me.
Lol nice
A Rainbow Six game but with ODST’s would be my dream game
I would love to see a collaboration where you can put on an ODST outfit for some operators. I would go crazy!
Yeah would be good however i would prefer it like new Vegas, siege is too generic shooter.
Is there room for ODSTs in Infinite? Certainly on the ring, but there aren't exactly anymore orbiting platforms from which to drop from anymore, right? lol.. Great breakdown as always!
This isn't really the place, but I still don't understand why everyone wants an ODST battle royale mode. Yes, they drop out of the sky, but why would they be killing each other? And how would that be any different from any other BR mode? A COD Warzone with slightly future weapons? An Apex without all the abilities and movement? I will continue to push my fringe proposal of a grunt battle royale lol.. The first FPS where you waddle..
Grunt Battle Royale is the only acceptable Battle Royale for Halo.
Could make it like it's a training simulation that they do for bragging rights
If only our UN was actually this level headed and got its priorities straight of uniting humanity, instead of a parliament full of corrupt-crackhead individuals. We could've had a unified and single military faction for humanity.
What do we need a unified military for? If humanity is united, there is no need for militaries as militaries are for conflicts between states
@@danisrusski6297 "for conflicts between states" sounds like you don't even know why militaries are established and why they were created in the first place. If militaries are for "conflicts" in ur sense then you need to recheck urself lmao
I think that other than the scalpel simile, there's also the fact that Spartans have a reputation of being out-and-out heroes akin to Captain America. Naturally, ONI wouldn't want to jeopardize this reputation by risking sending a spartan on a classified mission that would earn public ire and rebellion if they were to be made public, *doubly* so if the mission involves assassinating figures that ONI deems as "unsavory".
I prefer ODST than Spartan 4
Me to
I love Spartans and all but after Halo 3 ODST came out and became my favorite Halo game and story. I've always liked seeing ODSTs and seeing the stories they participated in. Heck even the Babysitter from Halo Legends is my favorite story in there because for me it was the first time I saw outside of the games how ODSTs potential felt about them. I say potentially mainly for the context when I saw Legends.
Hope they reemerge in Infinite!
I believe in Halo First Strike that John once stated that take away augmentations and armour there wasn’t a great deal of difference between an ODST and a Spartan. And I think this is true. I think there’s some truth to the ODST view of Spartans as the ones who took all the glory while they contributed highly to the war effort which when compared to the Spartans is largely unrecognised. Which is why it frustrates me that when we were told that the best went to become SIVs this was completely brushed over and the SIVs at least in the beginning came off as highly underwhelming especially considering they’re supposed be ex ODSTs.
I wonder if the resentment between the 2 will ever disappear. Most of the hatred the ODSTs have toward Spartans was due to ONI, sending ODSTs to indirectly get them to fight John to test out his augmented body and overflooding the media with propaganda involving Spartans, greatly overshadowing the achievements and sacrifices of the ODSTs
@@granmastersword Well its lessened cause of SPARTAN IV but hasn't gone away
@@joelmanning249 well yeah. It's hard to get it away when Spartans still take most of the spotlight from the ODST, undermining their contribution. But indeed it got lessened due to the Spartan IVs being usually experienced ODSTs who were likely worthy of being selected
@@granmastersword yeah, the oni lapdog ODSTS got bodied and whined about it. Sucks that that was a lot of ODSTs first impression of Spartans. A few of their own bad apples spoiled the relationship the two could’ve had. We see it happen anyway with Chief when he meets some rad ODSTs
Hope I'm alive to see ODST's become a reality. We got most of the technology needed we just need a way to make it more cost effective.
I just started playing this again. It's in my top 3 halo games. I'll never forget that it was what destroyed my Xbox back in the day. I got the RROD 45 minutes into my first play through lol. Salty McNalty!
I love ODST
Hell jumpers
I much prefer ODST’s to Spartans and you used the same line that always use to explain why:
“They are the best Humanity has to offer without augmentations”
Great video. I love ODST and always have. Theyre such a cool and iconic part of Halo. Honestly what I've always wanted to see is an ODST themed turn-based tactical like XCOM
I love the ODST their game was really fun wish they got their own sub franchise
I think that the UNSC Infinity being the flagship replaced the ODSTs with Spartans but that would be too impractical for the rest of the fleet
any military worth their salt would make sure have few if not several special forces in their military. Spartans & Odsts being the main faces of the unsc both having place in the military. Spartans are far more expensive so it would be easier to improve the equipment the odsts have in my opinion. Especailly post-war where they could incoperate more of spartan armor technology iunto teh odsts armor. Perhaps even getting their own shields at some point too and slightly more durable armor which help increase the survival rate.
ODSTs when they drop are like bombs too and in mass numbers can probably do a lotta damage before physically engaging in battle
ODSTs are hardasses for being able to go toe to toe alongside Spartans while using slightly upgraded marine gear and having no genetic modifications
Have they made new versions of halo 3 ODST &Halo Reach the way they did with the original halo games?
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Not to say it would be soft, but H2A failed to include the retro rockets that make the impact survivable.
I know from “Shadows of Reach” that there were still ODSTs stationed on Infinity at the time. They’re likely still around because it’s cheaper and easier to train and equip them than it is to train and equip a Spartan.
When communism is so looked downed upon even halo lore shits on it😎
The fact is ya dont replace the entire army with the navy seals
If you look at the shoulder patch of certain marines in CE you will see the ODST badge. They just don't have the armor.
Very much based on the paratroopers of ww2. Those were the real force to be reckon with and very much the peak of military might. Knowing fully well that they are to be dropped into combat behind enemy lines surrounded and have to hold out before reinforcements they pretty much have to do all the roles of a grounded unit. Need to be specialised in engineering, infantry combat, sabotage, demolition etc except for piloting and other air force roles. The guts it takes to volunteer into such positions are nothing but respectable
My headcanon is that they are the direct descendants of the original paratroopers from ww2 which then gave birth to the Halo Jumpers in today's modern world where the jumpers "come down from the heavens to make sure the battle goes in the factions favour!"
And then the Hell jumpers are the next group jumping "beyond the heavens and falling straight into Hell to take out whatever demons threaten the human civilization!"
Has a bit of mythology to it if you ask me and I believe that is welcome when referring to all 3 eras of jumping from the "skies and beyond!"
I REALLY would like a one off halo game where you're fighting space commies on mars as an ODST.
I'm on board
Excellent history!! 👏 Now I wish 343 would give us some new ODST games!
Personally I've always seen ODSTs as mini Spartans, and love their representation within the Spartan community. And I feel that that the Spartan IV program was a way to reintroduce the ODSTs in a new light, having dedicated Spartan IV ODST teams or even regiments. I've been running ODST armor since Halo 3. Easily my favorite chunk of Lore.
my favorite helmet to wear in any of the halos that have them is the ODST helmet, its just cool to have that spartan/ODST hybrid and I think it would be cool to see a another story with spartan and ODSTs
Personaly I never felt that the Spartan 4s replaced the ODSTs.
ODSTs are special ops troopers, dropped into hot zones to work sabotage, while Spartan 4s were shock troopers, flew in on Pelicans and made sure to draw in the fire.
Honestly I thought they complement each other. Spartan 4s can draw the fire and attention of the enemy while ODSTs drop in from behind to do massive damage to the enemy from behind
Awesome video! Slight pet peeve: it's orbital drop shock-trooper, not orbital drop-shock trooper. ;)
Honestly if I had to choose I’d be an ODST.
What game is shown at 1:34?
Well now I need to go back and replay H3 ODST and complete HW2 so I can play the dlc
Loved the use of infinite warfare I just accepted it as an unofficial halo prequel
I really wish that ODST could have been in Infinite.
Would love to see another odst only game but more again the Insurgents and not the covenant
I wish we got a console raven squad instead of a dave & busters game 🙄
The odst should be a thing in infinite, like call em in, and people in a queue can join in and drop on a match as odsts... these are the gameplay ideas they need....
Plus ODSTs had a deep hate for the Spartans but I like both
Loved learning more about the ODSTs!!
As someone who has only recently got back into Halo after Halo 5 left me... Uninterested in the series for lack of a better term despite absolutely adoring every Halo prior to it(Yes even 4, hell part of me likes 4 more than Reach even if Reach has better multiplayer), finding this channel and playing thru the MCC with a good friend reignited my love for this series. Thank you for this
I imagine for Americans at least it's easy to think of it like this. Say Super Soldiers became a real thing. You would still have the Rangers, SEALs, Green Berets, Delta Force etc. These organisations are massive and have useful everyday functions. You can also consider the $$$ factor. One Spartan probably costs more than a full squad or platoon of ODST's. Not every situation calls for the nuclear option.
"Halo: New Blood" basically makes this exact argument.
i love the Idea of the ODST! They are Badass and even quite realistic? I even bought an ODSt Armor/Costume because it looks so cool!
but the Halo 4 Design is just ugly...... and they even killed Commies! how much more can you wish for hahaha
I mean the ODSTs are futuristic paratroopers, same concepts but via spaceship. Fun fact, the Mobile Infantry in the Starship Troopers book deployed in their suits the same way, via drop pods instead of a landing craft.
A feature film or series following an elite ODST unit in the covenant war or even counter insurrection operations would be freaking sick.
Medal Of Honour Game But With ODST’s. Squad Level Combat Would Be Awesome, Command A Squad To Suppress A Position While You Flank Around A Building Ugh 343 Please!!!
why do I recognize the photo at 1:44?
I always loved odst the game was a amazing switch up from the normal halo games
I remember seeing ODST's in Forward Unto Dawn. I wish you would talk about that.
Why do you have footage of Operation Blood Storm - Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare?
Because it worked to visualize early ODST operations.
I think that a ODST and Marines Battle Royale built from the ground up with the full Halo sandbox would be great. That, and a Flood horror story that stars that guy that first tried to retrieve the index while it also follows Sgt Johnson's ordeal with the Flood when Keys gets taken. It would be a great excuse to play as Johnson. I miss him...
This is the first time I'm hearing that Helljumpers were only 1 particular division of ODSTs...
With the mass production of Spartans via the Spartan-IV program it seems that ODSTs became more of a support role for Spartan units or like becoming the Tier 2 SF units. Spartans became the Tier 1 unit like Delta, DEVGRU, SAS or Spetsnaz with doing dangerous jobs, while ODSTs became Tier 2 units like Force Recon, Airbone Pathfinders, Army Rangers and etc.
Ahhhh, using Infinite Warfare as it should be!
I've always been a huge fan of the ODST's and I've always loved the ODST's more than the Spartans. My very first Halo game was ODST as well!. Anytime we get more ODST action or content, I'm always excited to see it.
god If I ever met Lt Mckay in real life I would give her 100 salute. Aside from Buck and Rookie she is one ODST that I respected the most. Without her earth definitely will not survive
Hey good work! What is the song you used for the chapter “Beginning of the Odst”? It just sounded really dope
The problem with ODST’s is the cost factor compared to the performance of Spartans.
It doesn’t cost that much more to create 4th Gen Spartans. Considering the influx of Spartans now, the economy of scale factor drives the cost down so much you can get 10x the result for only 2x the cost of a ODST.
They have a great history to them and hopefully that history is used in the Spartan training programs going forward in the lore
So the ODSTs have a rivalry with the Spartan 2 program. How was their relationship with the SIIIs? Would they even be aware of the difference between the SII and SIII programs?
The S-III program remained a secret during the war, but any interaction with an S-III (such as members of Noble Team) would likely be thought of as an S-II.
The rivalry still exists even with the SIVs it was mentioned in the Spartan Manual ODSTs still have some beef with Spartans regardless of class
I love odst aka hell jumper are so cool and having unique weapon like M7S and M6C SOCOM so special force
Damn Space Commies
No matter how many super soldiers are needed or made, it always ends up coming down to just us, it will always come down to us, from start to finish, the grunts on the ground, the men and women with only the will to fight, we will always be the ones you will want when taking the fight headlong at the enemy, when either a world is taken or defended it's always on us!
Jus found your channel an subscribed today my man! Great videos, very well edited an put together. Thanks for the content!
Thank you! Glad you like what you see!
The hype is REAL. cant wait!
By some digree??
Swore into the Marine Corps this week. ODST's were a big part of making me want to enlist. I feel like it's just their mindset that I fuck heavy with
pelae do one onm kilo five! they littearly changed the entire course oif humanity and of coure actaully ended the war.
I love this channel so much. Thank you halo cannon
Thing I love about the ODSTs is that IRL if we can develop the tech to make it possible and we ever get space warships, they’re a logical strategy, you got a ship in the sky, just fly above the enemy and drop down units. Paratroopers taken to an insane degree.
Iconic elite soldiers of the UNSC without sparten augmentation.
I like the OG UNSC Marines and ODSTs from Halo CE and Halo 2. Halo 2 Anniversary has the best Marine and ODST design.
Will we get an ODST 2??
The ODST’s all need to be equipped with the Nightfall Power Armor especially the Black Daggers and other SAB’s (Space Assault Battalions), it’s about time that the ODST’s and Army Airborne and Rangers get upgraded and a new ODST game introducing units from the three will be great. Halo Wars 3 will hopefully take place between the Ark and Zeta Halo
Dude, don't get me wrong here I love Halo with all my heart but are u REALLY USING CALL OF DUTY CLIPS IN HALO!?!?? 😂
It looks cool... but still. Not cool bro.
Spartans never die, they were born for combat. ODSTs know they aren't coming home and they go anyway.
ODSTs are like the Krillins of HALO. “Just” human, but can still keep up with the heavy hitters