Dude, The Interplanetary Wars are literally the Halo Universe SCREAMING at 343 for a prequel game...Imagine the possibilities, the new guns, vehicles and factions that were used during those conflicts or better yet a game set during the Insurrection leading up to the Covenant's sudden arrival and the sheer chaos that ensued in those planets were the UNSC and Rebels were fighthing each other when Aliens showed up.
Oh yeah man how cool would it be if you were on a planet as a marine or ODST the first missions fighting insurrectionists then at the mid game the Covenant show up and just stomp the UNSC and you have to find a way off planet before it gets glassed and at the same time gathering intel on the Covenant.
A more advanced “tactical tuna” aka FN F2000 and the beginnings of the M52 Marine Combat Armor Chassis as well as the early UNSC/UEG/Late-UN forces; would be dope...
I want that game too but a lot of fans would scream that this isn't halo and that this is a COD ripoff etc... because you're fighting humans and not aliens.
I completely agree with you. However, it would have a difficult time navigating classifications. This would be a highly political, human-on-human conflict based video game. Many (real world) governments would push for concessions, or censorship of certain elements, under the guise of protecting the public from unnecessary violence in video games.
The whole war was as close to a one sided slaughter as made no difference as well as the humans being outnumbered ship wise if halo 2 can be believed so it was less “wage war” and more the most genocidal game of hide and seek ever
@@kriysixvector4552 The UN troops don't actually do anything in Africa they just kind of stand their and look nice. The French, the British, American, and Canadian militaries are the real international war effort in the region.
I was honestly surprised and pleased when watching “FORWARD UNTO DAWN” when it was showing that they didn’t really know what the covenant was: those marines in that show are training to fight insurrectionists not covenant.
Lmao imagine being an uncontacted Amazonian hunter-gatherer and watching as commandos engage in firefights throughout your patch of forest. Then at the end they climb into the ass of a giant metal bird with wings of fire and fly away. You’d be wondering who slipped the ayahuasca tea into your waterskin.
It's several centuries into the future, so you probably would have a dude wearing modern clothing holding a spear in one hand and basically a more advanced iPhone in the other.
This channel is such a pleasure. So many channels are insipid and derivative but it’s beyond clear that 00 does his own research and writing with thought put into every step. We’ll never know all the work that’s been put into this channel but we can all tell that it’s a head above the rest.
@@slimerewoods5766 Legit could just make a covenant first content game with marines fighting rebels that unite to try and warn unsc. Or a elite great skism game.
343: "I know! How about a Covenant splinter group we've never heard about? What should we named them? Oh, I know! The Banished! Why don't we make them the main enemy instead of the Prometheans?"
@@ATP2555ify 343: I have another idea, let's make a totally new group of ancient enemies, and call them... Let's see... Generic names that are in tone with Forerunner and Promethean... Got it, The Endless!!! Ooh, spooky! And let's even say that they're worse than the Flood. Yeah, that makes sense. It totally won't distrupt the whole lore about the flood being the most dangerous thing in the universe, right?... *Right???*
The Expanse is what kind of I imagine Pre-FTL Sol System was like in Halo especially in the outer planets. The MCRN Donnager class battleship even looks it could have been a forerunner to the Paris class
@@Ahriman13 Well it's not really near future when it is set 300 years in the future. But I get what you are trying to say. The tech feels really realistic and almost possible with today's understanding of science. It also almost perfectly fits into to the Halo timeline. First of all, with them discovering a way to travel faster than light during the show and the UN needing new planets to colonise because of overpopulation on Earth.
I'd kill for a military RTS game in the Expanse universe. Also an early colonization version of it but especially the military ship aspects. I just fuckin love the ships in the Expanse for how realistic feeling they are.
@@ManOfAnswers Same. I always think to as well is it how UNSC ships behave as well in zero-G like the UN, MCR & Belter ships looking at how real physics work. We somewhat see it in lore how they move around like that in-system, it can also explain for example the Autumn manage to go head to head with 4 CCS cruisers in the Threshold system. It's thrust tumbling like hell all over the place to avoid plasma torpedoes like a out of control brink, pulling Gs all over the place given how the superstructure can handle the pulls, why Keyes enable gravity otherwise the crew would be Swiss-cheese inside 😂. Well as the Keyes loop as another.
I like the expanse specifically because their PDCs exist... and fucking work goddamn. Like nowadays we have giant r2d2 lookin ass robots that can shoot down ordnance the size of a fist traveling easily at transonic or supersonic speeds. These are dumb programs using cold war tech and hardware and even then the phalanx has a 60% kill rate. Newer CIWS have up to 80% kill rates and new german designs have airburst autocannon fragmenting rounds. I find space fighters absurd in ship to ship combat at least in the way that most franchises portray them. Honestly the trench runs that star wars popularized would have infantry with rifles cutting down half a flight of fighters not even considering dedicated high rate of fire intelligent tracking point defense
24:45 So you're telling me that Cole committed a War Crime? Playing on the compassion of your enemy to ask for aid and then betraying that aid is a disgusting and cowardly effort. Such a hero.
It was said that he may have won the battle, but he paid a price. No insurrectionist would ever dock with him if he sent a distress signal. Therefore if he was ever actually in trouble, they would let him die.
No quarter either. He has to win every engagement or the enemy will destroy his ship; no mercy, no chances. By the time of his "death" he was pretty unpopular in the UNSC command as well, iirc.
@@kjj26k which sucked because he was such a good leader. Kind of like Ulysses grant, great leader but a total asshole. General Lee was more like lord hood or Captain keyes.
How is it cowardly? For one, it would be stupid not to do so if you would die otherwise. Also, Cole was dealing with terrorists, not a legitimate military force.
It would be kinda cool to see a spin off series taking place during this time, there’s like 400 years worth of history in Halo thats just left forgotten
Imagine a halo game from the insurrection perspective and having to fight Spartans. The mission when you first encounter one could be in a dark station and the spartan is running around killing your teammates as you narrowly escape him
Your team gets intel that the unsc is working on making super soldiers ( the orion project) and are sent to a unsc research outpost to gather intel in the project but it turns out the project is undergoing testing and your attacked by the spartan ones( Johnson could be one of the since he was in the project) your character could narrowly escape and report back that the spartans already exist..... Or something like that
@@quintusfabiusmaximus8700 just read about a world rebelling against the imperium, and read along as a chapter of space marines descend to take it back. it's the same result as what would happen in the halo verse
@@quintusfabiusmaximus8700 what make you think i wanna see them survive? i support the unsc & the imperium, i wanna the see the heretical traitors be given the emperors judgement.
The politics behind the Interplanetary War is fascinating, as it’s somewhat realistic to what may happen to us today. Given that space travel wasn’t anywhere near as sophisticated at the end of the 21st and the entirety of the 22nd century, any law Earth passed wouldn’t really be well enforced outside of her orbit. The actions taken by corporations flocking to Mars to worm their way out of Earth’s laws, was bound to lead to anti-capitalist/pro-communist movements. Similar things can be said to the Jovian Moons. If Earth can’t really enforce its rule on Mars, then what would it do with the Jovian Moons? It’s frankly a miracle and testament to the early UNSC that with such limitations on space travel, it was able to support multiple interplanetary campaigns around Sol.
One thing to add onto this, earlier on in humanities expansion into deep space and forming of the outer colonies, they had remained mostly independent, though the UEG still kept a watchful eye on them. However pirates started becoming a big problem in the outer colonies resulting in these colonies asking for help from the UNSC to help guard against these pirates, over time the UEG and UNSC control over the outer colonies grew more authoritarian resulting in the hard push back from Outer Colnies for independence, the rest is history
I would like a huge campaign set in the interplanetary wars playing as an ODST. Would be great if they made the game really dark to get the despair of war.
In the books anytime someone would call the unsc fascists I always thought it was really cringe because the evidence they provided was crap and that it only applied to oni but I was wrong, the unsc sucks
If it wasn't for the genocidal alien coalition popping in out of nowhere, the UNSC would totally be the bad guys of the series. Rather than superheroes fighting to protect humanity, the Spartans would be the stuff of nightmares, bioengineered enforcers of a tyrannical, Earth-centric empire that is willing to resort to nuclear bombardment to keep its colonies under heel.
My thoughts before watching I have always been fascinated with the Halo Universe pre-Covenant War, more specifically, with how much has happened between now and 500 years from now and the fact that, comparatively, so little is covered. I can't wait to watch this and more if you plan on going more in depth in that centuries-spanning chunk of timeline
I just discovered this channel a few days ago and I instantly subscribed after watching several of your videos. Your dedication and passion for Halo is clearly evident in your videos, and you have such a soothing and engaging voice. Keep it up, dude. This is some seriously gourmet shit.
The interplanetary war is very similar to the setting of COD Infinite Warfare's solar system war as pointed out by the one and only Hiddenxperia. By the way I thought the game's designs were pretty cool.
@@austinfisher1015 Ehh it wasn't that bad except for the multi-player. I got say I believe Infinite Warfare was alot better then most people give it heat for. Compared to the current COD scams being spawned I believe Infinite Warfare should be less denounced then it currently is. I give it credit for the space battles they did good there.
@@thorshammer7883 Tge only issue with Infinite was some of the worldbuilding, it genuinely had a lot of potential had they called it something other than "Call of Duty".
I liked COD:IW. As for ripping off Halo and Titan Fall. Well honestly those games have ripped off how many sci-fi movies, films, tv shows, animated features and shows, plus books and comics, and lastly even games (board and video) that all came before it. Truth is nothing wrong with inspiration and giving nods to things the creators enjoyed. It is not as though COD:IW was the same thing as Halo or Titanfall. They also had a good point with the name, which related to the setting. War is going to continue. Many idiots called the fall of the Berlin Wall and end of the Cold War the end of history. The reason for that was their idiotic belief that major conflicts, strife, civil wars, wars, battles, and terrorism was going to all become a thing of the past. As if humanity changed magically because the ussr dissolved. Call of Duty calling a game in it’s series Infinite Warfare is just pointing out that it is not going to end, and setting it into a future further illustrates this notion. Maybe they should have called it COD:Neverending History instead? Oh and Halo Infinite is illustrating a similar notion in that the war does not end. I guess Halo is ripping off COD by using infinite in it’s title.
I’m German and I can say that Pease does not mean Freedome in German. Pease means Frieden and Freedome Means Freiheit, both has the same meaning like the English part. And it’s kind of funny that only Germans could create a Neo-fascist Movement Like said in the Video. XD I don’t want to hold you a lesson about German History, but we didn’t just had Fascists... we basically had all government forms in your short time, Communism-Check, Facism-Check,Monarchist-Check, Oligarchs-Kind of at short periods after WW2 and finally Democracy!
@@nineball9746 www.loc.gov/law/help/national-parliaments/germany.php See. Thats what happens when you read that MAGAt garbage that the right is trying to push at ya. Honestly, I far more respect the German governments approach to freedom than our own. Somewhere along the way of hiring an Orange Con Man we lost our soul. To see that half of my brothers and sisters actually respected that pile of dung is sadly disheartening.
I remember reading the books as a kid and thought the recon/infiltration/human conflict stuff and thought it was so fucking cool. But was still excited when it got to the "Halo" stuff
Reading the novels and the "Hunt the Truth" audio series made me realize that despite their contributions against the Covenant, the UNSC is a cruel authoritarian regime reminiscent of the worst aspects of both the USA and the PRC combined.
The UNSC is a fascist junta jointly controlled by military contractors and megacorporations. This is made very appearent in all extended universe books, though not often touched on in the mainlime games.
@@colbyboucher6391 Not really, if anything its probably.most inspired by the Citizen's Federation from starship troopers. You see very litrle religion, cult of personality or feudalism in it, but all the more xenophobia oligarchic cronyism, and deliberate social engineering.
PRC literally is just the US with all of its best bits removed. People complaining about corporate interest moving US policy seem to ignore how the PRC literally has CEO's as leading members in the CCP.
I would love to play a game where you as a rebel fight against the first age spartans and later on against covenant. A nice free breath from super soldier saving the human race from another hostile alien invasion.
Not really. I’d imagine fighting a Spartan, as a rebel, is kind of similar to Master Chief fighting a Mgalekgolo Pair on Legendary with no shield and partially wounded… Meanwhile the ODST and Marines are also shooting at you… and this would be the difficulty on Easy… 😐
"How much longer can our luck as a species hold out after Guardians/Halo Wars 2?" I think that answer will be in the upcoming Infinite later this year.
This video, and the recent Infinite Trailer, really makes me wish they touched upon this a bit more for current audience. I'm not saying they need to make an entire game set in the Colony Wars or anything, but some cool cinematics, or even a flash back mission would be pretty cool in future titles because he's right, a lot of new comers to Halo don't get that Reach, CE, 2, 3, and ODST all take place in the span of a few months of a 30 year long war that was preceded by decades of Human on Human conflict.
I love that the writers continued the struggle between workers and capitalists into the future, it's realistic and something that most other sci Fi does not do instead choosing to have a universe set in a semi-utopian future. It mirrors the same exact struggles we have today with corporations funding fascist movements to crush workers
13:16: Is that a shot of Arma Halo? If so, that is cool. Nice to see that some people like to have Arma Halo as a headcanon. I am also one of these people
Even the terminals in Halo, suggest Forerunner society and government collapsed during the Forerunner/Flood War. Especially after the creation of the Maginot Sphere. So rebellions and internecine conflict may have ravaged the Forerunner Empire as much as the Flood. Perhaps how they handled or didn't handle it could be greatest lesson the Forerunners could teach humanity.
Can I ask a serious question here? Would Call of Duty Infinite Warfare be a far stretch that some elements tie in to an Pre-Halo universe? Activists of Mars? Early warp travel? Pelican looking craft? Warthog looking vehicles? Year it is based on? Character uniforms? Etc
I've come back to this video a lot in the past two years. I struggle to sleep in silence and I like futuristic yet relatable human conflicts. Thank you very much for making this video. I can't say I don't want Halo to have a game based on this lore, because I do want one, it's just a shame that right now, the 343 series barely even has a main story.
For anyone wanting a prequel game, remember that the setting would be vastly different and wouldn't have the overwhelming majority of things that are seen as recognizable to Halo. If the interplanetary wars is going to be covered in any detail it'll be through books.
With all the strife and distress in our Modern world, I am comforted at times with the thought that in some future, we can see each other and be at peace and understanding simply because we are both human.
@@MandalorV7 nah even during the war with the covenant humanity was being classic humanity and still fighting each other. I know halo 5 sucks from a story/lore point but shit even with forunner robots tearing up the place on that one planet people were unhelpful and pretty much ungrateful there were Spartans there to help. Art mirrors real life. We really are nothing but monkeys with high tech sticks and clubs.
A Halo 4 Marine character concept art are suitable for this Halo: Interplanetary Wars story. Because the Halo 4 Marine character art are much like nowdays modern military style instead of a marine wearing a full plate ceramic titanium armor with green color.
from how someone else explained it to me, the insurrectionists are basically america pre-1776. they wanted to do their own thing but kept being heavily taxed by the unsc while having their needs ignored
Damm...its gives me a feeling of looking back to hundreds of years of human history,It's like I'm watching this video from the year 3000,and I really wish i am!
The battle games of these great lore. What a punch of greatness. I would love to get my hands on that game. As I have said and will say again. Attention on deck. Our lore officer is on deck. To use a fraze from halo legends upon you have used in this video, ironic to be sure. Cortona "The very weapons you so carefully controlled got out. It always got out." And the very cold and real reality comes into veiw. This straight forward and direct veiw is the whole truth the spartans were to dominate over. Just brutal and clear cut. To win against the very troops that were trained and joined the innys in a no win fight to the death. Then the covenant show up. Then the real mistrust gets put to the wayside, mostly. Halo reach made sure of that truth made real. As always standing by academiclamb171.
Back stories are alway a wealth of knowledge! I still want to see current humans meet a remnant of the ancient humans that left the Milky Way! How much would they have advanced over all those Millenniums!
Wait ancient humans managed to leave the milky way? That means that are precursors forerunners and humans outside the milky way, I can imagine giant wars once the three factions rediscover each other
I love the literary repherences like Bandersnatch from the poem "the jaberwokee" and belleraphon the Greek hero who slew the chimera. Along with already mjilnir, hrunting iggdrasil (Beowolfs lent sword and the norse tree) and gungnir Odins spear
The UNSC is a monument to why diplomacy is always preferable to military interventionism (and why razing a planet to suppress a rebellion is dumb idea, seriously, did they ever consider granting them independence before genociding them)
How strong would the Tennos from Warframe be in the Halo universe? They seem very supernaturally strong and powerful with their connections to the void dimension. How would the factions and organizations of the galaxy view and react towards them? I bet ONI would make many attempts to get them to work for them or to even try to capture them to study what makes them so unnaturally powerful.
That was brilliant I was always aware of the history before the Human-Covenant. But the detail you went into was amazing you have earned yourself a new Subscriber.
What are the pre and post war Insurrection's views on both the Covenant and Covenant Remnants and what was their reactions towards the discovery of the Covenant?
@@tyvernoverlord5363 How do they view the Arbiter? A UNSC puppet? It would be cool to see some Insurrection groups start working alongside the Banished who also rebelled against the Covenant.
@@thorshammer7883 They mostly don’t care about the covenant remnants, former races, and the Sangheili, they just really and utterly *HATE* the UNSC. Further more they don’t have any hang ups about doing business with aliens from the covenant, covenant remnants, and the Sangheili; they’ll team up with the aliens to screw over the UNSC. As for the Arbiter specifically? As far as they cared the whole of humanity could have been genocided by the Covenant in the war, and could give less than a hoot about Arby. And he’s not a puppet to the UNSC, he’s just the guy the UNSC want at the helm of the Sangheili’s “government”. But make no mistake, the UNSC would end him in a heartbeat...
@@tyvernoverlord5363 The Insurrection should know that having somebody as smart as Atriox would make for a good ally and especially since he's all about raiding assets and money. Making a partnership with the Banished would have the potential of benefit for the Insurrection in the long run with technology, weapons, and brand new stuff to use.
Are there any good sources on the computer simulations that predicted collapse? The Carver findings, Halsey’s, and the UNSC’s own. It’s such a huge and earth shattering lore detail that recontextualizes things like the purpose of the Spartan II program. I want to read more about it if possible.
I dont know if the simulations are mentioned by name, but in the fall of reach novel which predated the release of CE by like a year it is already made explocit the intent behind thr creation of the spartan program was to quell an inevitable massive civil war in its infancy.
There are 2 ways you can deal with a defeated enemy. You can either oppress him under your joch and he will garner hate and spite for you, or you can give him everything he needs, so he has no reason to want independence. This is in my opinion one of the biggest flaws in the UNSC history. On another note Installation00 have you ever down a lore and theory of UNSC and Covanent communications and how communications technology evolved to a point of instant communication between ships and star systems, that are so far apart, normal light based coms are not feasable?
Humans are foolish and greedy. They will always want what you deny them. This the only true way to deal with a defeated enemy is to wipe them out entirely.
Some of this really deepens the interpretation of Halo as a reaction to war in the Middle East. Specifically Iraq, Afghanistan. Sure there are some innocent people being bombed on Mars, but most people are okay with it because it’s not at home.
& The Expanse as well as that CoD game that takes place in space. 343i can work on something as a separate IP that takes place in the same Halo universe. They could call it a Soldiers tale: A Halo's story or something similar & 343i can deep dive into the political chaos & wars on how UEG & the UNSC had formed as we know it.
@@tristanbackup2536 Infinite Warfare has an interesting concept. Players have always wanted to play as regular units for some time. Maybe as Marines or Army or story of the very first unit of the OSDT. It'll be lacking high tech weaponry like usual as there are fans wanted something that is grounded and realistic in Halo universe so Insurrection Era stories would be it. Will it be a shooter like usual or RTS like HW? Also a Covenant origin game should be on 343i list.
Dude, The Interplanetary Wars are literally the Halo Universe SCREAMING at 343 for a prequel game...Imagine the possibilities, the new guns, vehicles and factions that were used during those conflicts or better yet a game set during the Insurrection leading up to the Covenant's sudden arrival and the sheer chaos that ensued in those planets were the UNSC and Rebels were fighthing each other when Aliens showed up.
Oh yeah man how cool would it be if you were on a planet as a marine or ODST the first missions fighting insurrectionists then at the mid game the Covenant show up and just stomp the UNSC and you have to find a way off planet before it gets glassed and at the same time gathering intel on the Covenant.
A more advanced “tactical tuna” aka FN F2000 and the beginnings of the M52 Marine Combat Armor Chassis as well as the early UNSC/UEG/Late-UN forces; would be dope...
a game set on harvest would be good, maybe even playing as Johnson
I want that game too but a lot of fans would scream that this isn't halo and that this is a COD ripoff etc... because you're fighting humans and not aliens.
I completely agree with you.
However, it would have a difficult time navigating classifications. This would be a highly political, human-on-human conflict based video game.
Many (real world) governments would push for concessions, or censorship of certain elements, under the guise of protecting the public from unnecessary violence in video games.
In an alternate timeline where the United nations is actually capable of waging war
*think C&C timeline* ah yes my childhood game
Maybe Just one where they aren’t hilariously behind in manpower and technology
The whole war was as close to a one sided slaughter as made no difference as well as the humans being outnumbered ship wise if halo 2 can be believed so it was less “wage war” and more the most genocidal game of hide and seek ever
Ignores ongoing UN/UN sanctioned operations in Africa*
@@kriysixvector4552 The UN troops don't actually do anything in Africa they just kind of stand their and look nice. The French, the British, American, and Canadian militaries are the real international war effort in the region.
Don’t see this part of Halo’s history get touched upon that much so I’m looking forward to this.
Execute order 66
Scumbag tried to kill Ashoka
@@cplhotpockets yes
@@cplhotpockets Very fair
I was honestly surprised and pleased when watching “FORWARD UNTO DAWN” when it was showing that they didn’t really know what the covenant was: those marines in that show are training to fight insurrectionists not covenant.
The mars campaign & the conflicts between the UNSC & the koslovics was probably what gave inspiration for the story of COD. Infinite warfare IMO.
It's kind of funny though, because playing as a UNSC Marine would probably be more like playing CoD since they aren't augmented
Hidden Experia seems to have done a video on that exact topic 4 years ago.
The Expanse:Not bad...
Eh, Earth vs Mars is rather cliche. Not something Halo invented.
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Why add Venus into the mix once you'll add it? To make things more interesting?
They should of made Venus habitable in the Halo lore.
Lmao imagine being an uncontacted Amazonian hunter-gatherer and watching as commandos engage in firefights throughout your patch of forest. Then at the end they climb into the ass of a giant metal bird with wings of fire and fly away. You’d be wondering who slipped the ayahuasca tea into your waterskin.
It's several centuries into the future, so you probably would have a dude wearing modern clothing holding a spear in one hand and basically a more advanced iPhone in the other.
@@andyfriederichsen uncontacted pre-civilization tribes still exist in the Amazon.
@@xman5393 I did not know that. I will say that a lot can happen in one century alone, so imagine what can happen in five.
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@@andyfriederichsen I mean kinda got a point there.
Faire Isle: Declares independence.
UNSC: Declares *EXTERMINATUS*
UNSC: ua-cam.com/video/gvjOG5gboFU/v-deo.html
This channel is such a pleasure. So many channels are insipid and derivative but it’s beyond clear that 00 does his own research and writing with thought put into every step. We’ll never know all the work that’s been put into this channel but we can all tell that it’s a head above the rest.
Well said. I discovered his channel 3 weeks ago and have been watching his content religiously.
@@Jumpmann256 If you're one for community sized discord servers, 00's is quite lit.
I know this felt like a Documentary and actually made Halo feel even more realistic.
Thank you for articulating this thought so clearly. I agree but couldn't write it so well
@@RealmofGothArts Yes.
343: "We're out of ideas!"
Halo lore: "We have the Interplanetary War and Human-Forerunner War."
343: "I said, we're out of ideas!"
@@slimerewoods5766 Legit could just make a covenant first content game with marines fighting rebels that unite to try and warn unsc. Or a elite great skism game.
343: "I know! How about a Covenant splinter group we've never heard about? What should we named them? Oh, I know! The Banished! Why don't we make them the main enemy instead of the Prometheans?"
@@ATP2555ify 343: I have another idea, let's make a totally new group of ancient enemies, and call them... Let's see... Generic names that are in tone with Forerunner and Promethean... Got it, The Endless!!! Ooh, spooky! And let's even say that they're worse than the Flood. Yeah, that makes sense. It totally won't distrupt the whole lore about the flood being the most dangerous thing in the universe, right?... *Right???*
number company bad, *insert newest Halo* is the worst game ever made, I'm not wearing nostalgia goggles at all
@@Deadbeatcowi mean.... they *are* worst than the ogs
The Expanse is what kind of I imagine Pre-FTL Sol System was like in Halo especially in the outer planets. The MCRN Donnager class battleship even looks it could have been a forerunner to the Paris class
It's why I originally why I started watching it as that near future sci fi is cool
@@Ahriman13 Well it's not really near future when it is set 300 years in the future. But I get what you are trying to say. The tech feels really realistic and almost possible with today's understanding of science. It also almost perfectly fits into to the Halo timeline. First of all, with them discovering a way to travel faster than light during the show and the UN needing new planets to colonise because of overpopulation on Earth.
I'd kill for a military RTS game in the Expanse universe. Also an early colonization version of it but especially the military ship aspects. I just fuckin love the ships in the Expanse for how realistic feeling they are.
@@ManOfAnswers
Same. I always think to as well is it how UNSC ships behave as well in zero-G like the UN, MCR & Belter ships looking at how real physics work. We somewhat see it in lore how they move around like that in-system, it can also explain for example the Autumn manage to go head to head with 4 CCS cruisers in the Threshold system. It's thrust tumbling like hell all over the place to avoid plasma torpedoes like a out of control brink, pulling Gs all over the place given how the superstructure can handle the pulls, why Keyes enable gravity otherwise the crew would be Swiss-cheese inside 😂. Well as the Keyes loop as another.
I like the expanse specifically because their PDCs exist... and fucking work goddamn. Like nowadays we have giant r2d2 lookin ass robots that can shoot down ordnance the size of a fist traveling easily at transonic or supersonic speeds.
These are dumb programs using cold war tech and hardware and even then the phalanx has a 60% kill rate.
Newer CIWS have up to 80% kill rates and new german designs have airburst autocannon fragmenting rounds.
I find space fighters absurd in ship to ship combat at least in the way that most franchises portray them.
Honestly the trench runs that star wars popularized would have infantry with rifles cutting down half a flight of fighters not even considering dedicated high rate of fire intelligent tracking point defense
24:45 So you're telling me that Cole committed a War Crime?
Playing on the compassion of your enemy to ask for aid and then betraying that aid is a disgusting and cowardly effort.
Such a hero.
It was said that he may have won the battle, but he paid a price. No insurrectionist would ever dock with him if he sent a distress signal. Therefore if he was ever actually in trouble, they would let him die.
No quarter either. He has to win every engagement or the enemy will destroy his ship; no mercy, no chances.
By the time of his "death" he was pretty unpopular in the UNSC command as well, iirc.
@@kjj26k which sucked because he was such a good leader. Kind of like Ulysses grant, great leader but a total asshole. General Lee was more like lord hood or Captain keyes.
Deception is just as valid of a strategy as brute force. You call it cowardly, I call it brilliant tactics that minimize threat exposure.
How is it cowardly? For one, it would be stupid not to do so if you would die otherwise. Also, Cole was dealing with terrorists, not a legitimate military force.
It would be kinda cool to see a spin off series taking place during this time, there’s like 400 years worth of history in Halo thats just left forgotten
Imagine a halo game from the insurrection perspective and having to fight Spartans. The mission when you first encounter one could be in a dark station and the spartan is running around killing your teammates as you narrowly escape him
Your team gets intel that the unsc is working on making super soldiers ( the orion project) and are sent to a unsc research outpost to gather intel in the project but it turns out the project is undergoing testing and your attacked by the spartan ones( Johnson could be one of the since he was in the project) your character could narrowly escape and report back that the spartans already exist.....
Or something like that
@@BiasedCookie too much plot armour
@@quintusfabiusmaximus8700 just read about a world rebelling against the imperium, and read along as a chapter of space marines descend to take it back. it's the same result as what would happen in the halo verse
@@deathkorpsinfantryman1898 a rebel surviving spartans for two times is full of plot armour.
@@quintusfabiusmaximus8700 what make you think i wanna see them survive? i support
the unsc & the imperium, i wanna the see
the heretical traitors be given the emperors
judgement.
The politics behind the Interplanetary War is fascinating, as it’s somewhat realistic to what may happen to us today. Given that space travel wasn’t anywhere near as sophisticated at the end of the 21st and the entirety of the 22nd century, any law Earth passed wouldn’t really be well enforced outside of her orbit. The actions taken by corporations flocking to Mars to worm their way out of Earth’s laws, was bound to lead to anti-capitalist/pro-communist movements. Similar things can be said to the Jovian Moons. If Earth can’t really enforce its rule on Mars, then what would it do with the Jovian Moons? It’s frankly a miracle and testament to the early UNSC that with such limitations on space travel, it was able to support multiple interplanetary campaigns around Sol.
One thing to add onto this, earlier on in humanities expansion into deep space and forming of the outer colonies, they had remained mostly independent, though the UEG still kept a watchful eye on them. However pirates started becoming a big problem in the outer colonies resulting in these colonies asking for help from the UNSC to help guard against these pirates, over time the UEG and UNSC control over the outer colonies grew more authoritarian resulting in the hard push back from Outer Colnies for independence, the rest is history
War...war never changes. No matter the universe, it's the truth.
war. war has changed .
@@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER well war hasn’t changed, but the combat has evolved
The general term of mantle of responsibility
@skitzocalypso _ sergeant johnson voice intensifies but without any intentions
War always changes from wars of total anihilation to proxy wars no war is the same
I would like a huge campaign set in the interplanetary wars playing as an ODST. Would be great if they made the game really dark to get the despair of war.
In the books anytime someone would call the unsc fascists I always thought it was really cringe because the evidence they provided was crap and that it only applied to oni but I was wrong, the unsc sucks
If it wasn't for the genocidal alien coalition popping in out of nowhere, the UNSC would totally be the bad guys of the series. Rather than superheroes fighting to protect humanity, the Spartans would be the stuff of nightmares, bioengineered enforcers of a tyrannical, Earth-centric empire that is willing to resort to nuclear bombardment to keep its colonies under heel.
*laugh in C&C vanilla and mod timeline* here hold my scorpion
Perhaps the Freidans had a point?
@@dianabarnett6886 i don't know they seem very lenient compared to the likes of us.
Imagine what history class is like for humans after the human-covenant war. Theyd have a lot of stuff to learn
My thoughts before watching
I have always been fascinated with the Halo Universe pre-Covenant War, more specifically, with how much has happened between now and 500 years from now and the fact that, comparatively, so little is covered. I can't wait to watch this and more if you plan on going more in depth in that centuries-spanning chunk of timeline
I just discovered this channel a few days ago and I instantly subscribed after watching several of your videos. Your dedication and passion for Halo is clearly evident in your videos, and you have such a soothing and engaging voice. Keep it up, dude. This is some seriously gourmet shit.
When you realize the UNSC are the REAL bad guys before the Covenant & Flood showed up.
*remember why C&C mod like Twisted Insurrection & Red Resurrection exists in the first place* oh, yeah this why it's exists...
Something an Innie terrorist would say.
@@Powerhaus88 Fr though imagine exterminating farmers and workers because they think the obviously unfair system is unfair lol
@@TheJackson4eva Yeah, the definition of unfair is always subjective. Also, why don't k'll commies? That's the best thing you can do with them
Why dont you go do that then
I've been waiting for someone to cover this, is the UNSC colonization period going to get covered?
The Friedan’s getting started with corporate backing gives the Interplanetary Conflict a Weimar feel
The interplanetary war is very similar to the setting of COD Infinite Warfare's solar system war as pointed out by the one and only Hiddenxperia.
By the way I thought the game's designs were pretty cool.
That is because COD completely ripped off everything Halo Titan Fall due to them running out of ideas.
@@austinfisher1015
Ehh it wasn't that bad except for the multi-player. I got say I believe Infinite Warfare was alot better then most people give it heat for. Compared to the current COD scams being spawned I believe Infinite Warfare should be less denounced then it currently is. I give it credit for the space battles they did good there.
@@thorshammer7883 Tge only issue with Infinite was some of the worldbuilding, it genuinely had a lot of potential had they called it something other than "Call of Duty".
@@the_corvid97
Yeah pretty much. By associating it as Call Of Duty it really only served to hold it back.
I liked COD:IW. As for ripping off Halo and Titan Fall. Well honestly those games have ripped off how many sci-fi movies, films, tv shows, animated features and shows, plus books and comics, and lastly even games (board and video) that all came before it. Truth is nothing wrong with inspiration and giving nods to things the creators enjoyed. It is not as though COD:IW was the same thing as Halo or Titanfall. They also had a good point with the name, which related to the setting. War is going to continue. Many idiots called the fall of the Berlin Wall and end of the Cold War the end of history. The reason for that was their idiotic belief that major conflicts, strife, civil wars, wars, battles, and terrorism was going to all become a thing of the past. As if humanity changed magically because the ussr dissolved. Call of Duty calling a game in it’s series Infinite Warfare is just pointing out that it is not going to end, and setting it into a future further illustrates this notion. Maybe they should have called it COD:Neverending History instead? Oh and Halo Infinite is illustrating a similar notion in that the war does not end. I guess Halo is ripping off COD by using infinite in it’s title.
Would love to see a video on the military subculture of the spartans
Keep deep diving into the lore like this man, I'm a huge Halo Lore Fanatic already and I love this.
For the love of all things holy please do more pre- human covie war lore
Humanity will always be Humanity’s enemy until a greater threat makes its presence known.
I’m German and I can say that Pease does not mean Freedome in German. Pease means Frieden and Freedome Means Freiheit, both has the same meaning like the English part. And it’s kind of funny that only Germans could create a Neo-fascist Movement Like said in the Video. XD I don’t want to hold you a lesson about German History, but we didn’t just had Fascists... we basically had all government forms in your short time, Communism-Check, Facism-Check,Monarchist-Check, Oligarchs-Kind of at short periods after WW2 and finally Democracy!
Google translate checks out lol
A quick look at my history book says, that Germany is still an oligarchy. When did you guys get democracy?
@@nineball9746 www.loc.gov/law/help/national-parliaments/germany.php
See. Thats what happens when you read that MAGAt garbage that the right is trying to push at ya. Honestly, I far more respect the German governments approach to freedom than our own. Somewhere along the way of hiring an Orange Con Man we lost our soul. To see that half of my brothers and sisters actually respected that pile of dung is sadly disheartening.
@@ICU1337 an outdated history book has nothing to do with Trump. The failing of the u.s. education system goes far deeper then "OrAnGe MaN bAd".
@@takuame7 I guess it depends on where in the states that you're getting your "education" from. But ultimately yes, it is overall "lackluster".
I remember reading the books as a kid and thought the recon/infiltration/human conflict stuff and thought it was so fucking cool. But was still excited when it got to the "Halo" stuff
Reading the novels and the "Hunt the Truth" audio series made me realize that despite their contributions against the Covenant, the UNSC is a cruel authoritarian regime reminiscent of the worst aspects of both the USA and the PRC combined.
The UNSC is a fascist junta jointly controlled by military contractors and megacorporations. This is made very appearent in all extended universe books, though not often touched on in the mainlime games.
@@colbyboucher6391 Not really, if anything its probably.most inspired by the Citizen's Federation from starship troopers.
You see very litrle religion, cult of personality or feudalism in it, but all the more xenophobia oligarchic cronyism, and deliberate social engineering.
PRC literally is just the US with all of its best bits removed. People complaining about corporate interest moving US policy seem to ignore how the PRC literally has CEO's as leading members in the CCP.
The human civilization in halo is stagnant, probably most due to its liberal militancy
The UEG are the government, not the UNSC
Finally a good lore video summarizing this era generally. There isn't a ton of lore you can find easily.
Always an absolute pleasure to see these uploads! Keep up the excellent work, and I'm always excited for future uploads. :)
I would love to play a game where you as a rebel fight against the first age spartans and later on against covenant. A nice free breath from super soldier saving the human race from another hostile alien invasion.
Not really.
I’d imagine fighting a Spartan, as a rebel, is kind of similar to Master Chief fighting a Mgalekgolo Pair on Legendary with no shield and partially wounded…
Meanwhile the ODST and Marines are also shooting at you… and this would be the difficulty on Easy… 😐
@@akseminole you could treat the Spartans like Elites in the main Halo Games. Or even like Elite Zealots.
I spat out my drink when I heard the ship name at 28:56 X,D
What ship was that?
@@WolfeSaber Corvette UNSC Bum-Rush 😂
I'm sorry, the UNSC WHAT?!
"How much longer can our luck as a species hold out after Guardians/Halo Wars 2?" I think that answer will be in the upcoming Infinite later this year.
Awesome video! MOST of my favorite things about halo come from this time period. Operation Trebuchet, Pre covenant harvest etc..
Also I love the halo war 1 music👍
Godamn the UNSC would definitely be be considered the bad guys if it wasn’t for the Covenant.
Always love this guy, probably why I became a mod on his Discord
@@cplhotpockets Shane Miller 😂
@@cplhotpockets no I just cover a different time zone
@@cplhotpockets well I've been on the server since 2019 and got made a mod... Hmm.. early to mid last year
@@cplhotpockets haha I lurk a lot too... Damn I need Wolf's vault boy emote for this
Ah humanity
In a constant state of falling apart for millions of years
Falling apart, _progressively_
This video, and the recent Infinite Trailer, really makes me wish they touched upon this a bit more for current audience. I'm not saying they need to make an entire game set in the Colony Wars or anything, but some cool cinematics, or even a flash back mission would be pretty cool in future titles because he's right, a lot of new comers to Halo don't get that Reach, CE, 2, 3, and ODST all take place in the span of a few months of a 30 year long war that was preceded by decades of Human on Human conflict.
Damn, this would make a Great Prequel Game where you play as a Spartan 1 or ODST, or even just a Marine taking out those Insurrectionist Bastards.
Nice, connects with the ODST history video too
I love that the writers continued the struggle between workers and capitalists into the future, it's realistic and something that most other sci Fi does not do instead choosing to have a universe set in a semi-utopian future.
It mirrors the same exact struggles we have today with corporations funding fascist movements to crush workers
You can make a mass effect type game for that time period
I've always wanted a halo game from this time not a quite so advanced humanity but just beginning to spread out and explore the galaxy.
When he doesn’t mention the society of civil engineers
“Loud fujikawa screeching”
13:16: Is that a shot of Arma Halo? If so, that is cool. Nice to see that some people like to have Arma Halo as a headcanon. I am also one of these people
An awesome ass game, an awesome ass community, and one hell of a awesome ass universe. Ladies and gentlemen, the Halo Franchise.
Honestly, it's stuff like these wars that make me realize that maybe that one graffiti calling the UNSC fascists in Halo 3: ODST isn't too far off.
Even the terminals in Halo, suggest Forerunner society and government collapsed during the Forerunner/Flood War. Especially after the creation of the Maginot Sphere. So rebellions and internecine conflict may have ravaged the Forerunner Empire as much as the Flood. Perhaps how they handled or didn't handle it could be greatest lesson the Forerunners could teach humanity.
"Infinite is set to release this fall" laughs in future
Can I ask a serious question here?
Would Call of Duty Infinite Warfare be a far stretch that some elements tie in to an Pre-Halo universe?
Activists of Mars? Early warp travel? Pelican looking craft? Warthog looking vehicles? Year it is based on? Character uniforms? Etc
Yes, the expanse too
Imo the COD jump does look like a partial transition into slipspace with all that blue radiation (Cherenkov rads)
I've come back to this video a lot in the past two years. I struggle to sleep in silence and I like futuristic yet relatable human conflicts. Thank you very much for making this video. I can't say I don't want Halo to have a game based on this lore, because I do want one, it's just a shame that right now, the 343 series barely even has a main story.
For your next Multiverse Core vid, you should talk about the HEV suit from Half-Life.
@@cancelanime1507 you don't know the HEV Suit from Half-Life?
@@cancelanime1507 well, best get the series as quickly as possible. They're very cheap on Steam.
my mind was blown through the first minute of the video with that cutscene/gameplay and i didnt even hear the installation talking.
So much content for new games
For anyone wanting a prequel game, remember that the setting would be vastly different and wouldn't have the overwhelming majority of things that are seen as recognizable to Halo. If the interplanetary wars is going to be covered in any detail it'll be through books.
Who else wants a game set during the interplanetary wars
I just wanted to say I really enjoyed this video, excellent introduction and this style of high quality content is great!
With all the strife and distress in our Modern world, I am comforted at times with the thought that in some future, we can see each other and be at peace and understanding simply because we are both human.
Well when we have another faction to fight that threatens all of us.
@@MandalorV7 nah even during the war with the covenant humanity was being classic humanity and still fighting each other. I know halo 5 sucks from a story/lore point but shit even with forunner robots tearing up the place on that one planet people were unhelpful and pretty much ungrateful there were Spartans there to help. Art mirrors real life. We really are nothing but monkeys with high tech sticks and clubs.
A Halo 4 Marine character concept art are suitable for this Halo: Interplanetary Wars story. Because the Halo 4 Marine character art are much like nowdays modern military style instead of a marine wearing a full plate ceramic titanium armor with green color.
“Bro, listen bro! Space Communism will surely work this time!”
😂😂😂😂😂
“Bro it’s the *RED* planet, cmon.”
@@joshuadarrow best comment I've seen.thank you
Im looking forward to space gulags eh space comraades
@@stoptrudeau42 In space they just kill you lol
God I just love this freaking channel you can just tell how much he loves halo
Oh, yeah. It's deep lore time! ❤
I love the picture at 20:41, one side is lovely and then the other side has 3 spaceships and a massive fire.
00 have you heard of Luetin09? You guys have a similar manner/tone/lore focus and I love it
Great lore video. I hope one day, halos lore will he represented by media as dedicated as Star Wars and Star Trek
So the Insurrectionists were actually the good guys and you've been playing as the villain this whole time
from how someone else explained it to me, the insurrectionists are basically america pre-1776. they wanted to do their own thing but kept being heavily taxed by the unsc while having their needs ignored
@@DIGITALGH05T very cool parallel to consider
Damm...its gives me a feeling of looking back to hundreds of years of human history,It's like I'm watching this video from the year 3000,and I really wish i am!
The battle games of these great lore. What a punch of greatness. I would love to get my hands on that game. As I have said and will say again. Attention on deck. Our lore officer is on deck. To use a fraze from halo legends upon you have used in this video, ironic to be sure. Cortona "The very weapons you so carefully controlled got out. It always got out." And the very cold and real reality comes into veiw. This straight forward and direct veiw is the whole truth the spartans were to dominate over. Just brutal and clear cut. To win against the very troops that were trained and joined the innys in a no win fight to the death. Then the covenant show up. Then the real mistrust gets put to the wayside, mostly. Halo reach made sure of that truth made real. As always standing by academiclamb171.
First time I've watched and first channel I've subscribed to. That was a great directional video. Makes me want to go buy the books!
Back stories are alway a wealth of knowledge!
I still want to see current humans meet a remnant of the ancient humans that left the Milky Way! How much would they have advanced over all those Millenniums!
Wait ancient humans managed to leave the milky way? That means that are precursors forerunners and humans outside the milky way, I can imagine giant wars once the three factions rediscover each other
@@mitchell3593 Definitely possible!
Where does the real life reach footage come from?
m.ua-cam.com/video/vKyRtRPLiaQ/v-deo.html
Reach commercial called "the day before" if link don't work
I love the literary repherences like Bandersnatch from the poem "the jaberwokee" and belleraphon the Greek hero who slew the chimera. Along with already mjilnir, hrunting iggdrasil (Beowolfs lent sword and the norse tree) and gungnir Odins spear
The UNSC is a monument to why diplomacy is always preferable to military interventionism (and why razing a planet to suppress a rebellion is dumb idea, seriously, did they ever consider granting them independence before genociding them)
Nope, they don’t consider loss of direct control a viable option
17:52 Love the pic. That colonnade of skyscrapers feels like a bigger, futuristic Hudson Yards style development.
A game set in this time would be amazing. Or just fighting regular insurrectionists from the 26th century.
I want games based on pre-Covenant events or Ancient Human expansion lore before encountering the Flood.
"You exist in one form or another"
Durt
Vladimir Kozlov? I didn't realize that a former WWE Superstar was a part of the Halo series
Dude, very cool. Wish the Halo show tapped you for the Lore of Halo. Maybe then the show would succeed... Again, well done.
damn this was good. love your content, always amazing quality and detail.
How strong would the Tennos from Warframe be in the Halo universe? They seem very supernaturally strong and powerful with their connections to the void dimension. How would the factions and organizations of the galaxy view and react towards them?
I bet ONI would make many attempts to get them to work for them or to even try to capture them to study what makes them so unnaturally powerful.
ONI is viciously xenophobic, they’d do everything they could to keep the Tenno weak, disorganised, or just plain look for an excuse to eradicate them.
@@ShawFujikawa
Well the Tennos almost look human just covered in armored suits.
@@thorshammer7883
"Almost Human" doesn't cut it. Especially since humans are all to eager to turn on even their own for selfish reasons.
Thank you installation 00 for your hard work and insight into the halo universe
Sooo...space fascists vs space communists vs space America? I was hoping for something more from Bungie
We need a prequel game set during The Interplanetary Wars
Can we take a moment to appreciate that Ohio becomes one of the wealthiest locations in the entirety of UEG Space.
The Paul brothers be rollin yo
That was brilliant I was always aware of the history before the Human-Covenant. But the detail you went into was amazing you have earned yourself a new Subscriber.
What are the pre and post war Insurrection's views on both the Covenant and Covenant Remnants and what was their reactions towards the discovery of the Covenant?
The mostly thought in: The enemy of my enemy is my “frenemy”
@@tyvernoverlord5363
How do they view the Arbiter? A UNSC puppet? It would be cool to see some Insurrection groups start working alongside the Banished who also rebelled against the Covenant.
@@thorshammer7883 They mostly don’t care about the covenant remnants, former races, and the Sangheili, they just really and utterly *HATE* the UNSC. Further more they don’t have any hang ups about doing business with aliens from the covenant, covenant remnants, and the Sangheili; they’ll team up with the aliens to screw over the UNSC. As for the Arbiter specifically? As far as they cared the whole of humanity could have been genocided by the Covenant in the war, and could give less than a hoot about Arby. And he’s not a puppet to the UNSC, he’s just the guy the UNSC want at the helm of the Sangheili’s “government”. But make no mistake, the UNSC would end him in a heartbeat...
@@tyvernoverlord5363
The Insurrection should know that having somebody as smart as Atriox would make for a good ally and especially since he's all about raiding assets and money. Making a partnership with the Banished would have the potential of benefit for the Insurrection in the long run with technology, weapons, and brand new stuff to use.
@@thorshammer7883 At this point they don’t even know the Banished are an entity let alone know who Atriox is
Our luck will hold out as long as the Chief's plo- I mean, luck holds out
Are there any good sources on the computer simulations that predicted collapse? The Carver findings, Halsey’s, and the UNSC’s own.
It’s such a huge and earth shattering lore detail that recontextualizes things like the purpose of the Spartan II program. I want to read more about it if possible.
I dont know if the simulations are mentioned by name, but in the fall of reach novel which predated the release of CE by like a year it is already made explocit the intent behind thr creation of the spartan program was to quell an inevitable massive civil war in its infancy.
When you kind of think about it, if we didn't have this war, we probably wouldn't have been as prepared for the Covenant as we were
There are 2 ways you can deal with a defeated enemy.
You can either oppress him under your joch and he will garner hate and spite for you,
or you can give him everything he needs, so he has no reason to want independence.
This is in my opinion one of the biggest flaws in the UNSC history.
On another note Installation00 have you ever down a lore and theory of UNSC and Covanent communications and how communications technology evolved to a point of instant communication between ships and star systems, that are so far apart, normal light based coms are not feasable?
Humans are foolish and greedy. They will always want what you deny them. This the only true way to deal with a defeated enemy is to wipe them out entirely.
The carver findings that influenced the spartan 2 program occurred in 2491 which is 1942 backwards, interesting detail to me
"It's the UNSC!"
Insurrection: "CLOSE THE GATES!"
"They want to save us from the aliens!"
Insurrection:"OPEN THE GATE SLIGHTLY.."
"Cortana wants to enslave all life in the galaxy!"
Insurrection: "CLOSE THE GATES AND KEEP THEM CLOSED!"
Some of this really deepens the interpretation of Halo as a reaction to war in the Middle East. Specifically Iraq, Afghanistan.
Sure there are some innocent people being bombed on Mars, but most people are okay with it because it’s not at home.
I now want to see master chief fighting communists.
coming soon: Noble six Black ink classified missions.
I didn’t realize just how damn lucky Cole was to survive the Las Vegas getting hit until now. Fortuitous
Does anyone want to play a Halo game focusing only on Insurrection Era? Maybe 343 could watch Gundam for inspiration for it.
& The Expanse as well as that CoD game that takes place in space. 343i can work on something as a separate IP that takes place in the same Halo universe.
They could call it a Soldiers tale: A Halo's story or something similar & 343i can deep dive into the political chaos & wars on how UEG & the UNSC had formed as we know it.
@@tristanbackup2536 Infinite Warfare has an interesting concept. Players have always wanted to play as regular units for some time. Maybe as Marines or Army or story of the very first unit of the OSDT. It'll be lacking high tech weaponry like usual as there are fans wanted something that is grounded and realistic in Halo universe so Insurrection Era stories would be it. Will it be a shooter like usual or RTS like HW? Also a Covenant origin game should be on 343i list.