The WEIRDEST 35mm Film I Have Ever Shot - Polaroid 35mm
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This week Im trying out Polaroid 35mm Instant Film, also known as Polarchrome.
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"ooooh it does not feel good, it feels like I'm breaking it"
Basically using any piece of older film gear ever.
you put my head into words
That’s how I feel cranking every frame through my OM-1.
Nah dude I'f you clean and rebuild your shit it should work like new unless something is deteriorated or broken
me winding back y first roll of film without pressing that little button on bottom and tearing the perforations of the film lol
Polaroid should really partner with Kodak to bring back this film even if it's only for a limited time
We can only dream
I think Polaroid as a company is gone. 'Polaroid' just exists as a brand name now. The instant film that is sold today with the name 'Polaroid' is actually made by a company called The Impossible Project that got permission to use the branding :)
@@brendanro As far as I understand it, the largest shareholder of The Impossible Project bought the Polaroid brand and intellectual property which is why they can use the name Polaroid. Whether or not they put the acquired intellectual property to good use remains to be seen.
@@WillemVerb make some calls willem
@@brendanro Yes and no. The Smolokowski family first became the largest shareholder of The Impossible Project, then of Polaroid itself, which is why The Impossible Project rebranded to Polaroid Originals, and eventually to Polaroid. It is not the same as the original Polaroid company, as The Impossible Project saved only the last Polaroid factory which only does the assembly of integral film. All other facilities producing chemicals, cameras or other types of film are long gone. However, the new Polaroid did acquire a factory which produces film negatives; they also create new cameras. So even though they have other companies making components or cameras for them, their focus has indeed shifted from simply selling their brand to anyone (zinc printers, TVs, smartphones etc.) to instant film (although they still have Polaroid branded TVs and industrial printers).
I used this film in the late eighties to early nineties at work for inspections...u would take photos and process them immediately..they came with plastic slide holders and u would cut them to snap inside the holders have finished slide presentation (on a Kodak Caramate) for a managers meeting within the hour. The slides when viewed from the side looked like they had a heavy silvery cast... this was way before using a photo and powerpoint to do the same thing... it was like magic. Nice to see again
That’s a great story! Thanks for sharing
I used this film before Power Point! Made great slides.
This would be so fun, get a projector, everyone goes out together with a roll during the day and then at night project together
You can technically do that with regular film too. For black and white film devving yourself isn't that hard. For colour film, some places have fast developing services even today. Take pictures, have them dev'd, then scan them and use a digital projector. That's how we kinda did it at the art academy.
There's a problem though. You need friends with the same hobby for this towork.
@@valterspatriks8752 you could've just stopped at "you need friends"
@@valterspatriks8752 I know a guy who gave cameras to a bunch of hobos and made a book with the pictures they returned.
That’s what we did for years! And it was especially great for parties. People couldn’t believe how fast we were! 😝
Oh man! Back in “the day” I used the black and white version of Polaroid’s 35mm slide film for a few jobs when the ad agency needed the images super rush for presentations. It was awful to work with, even with the motorized processor. The smell was disgusting then, too. Imagine having 20 to 30 rolls to process back to back! The film is also super fragile. To protect it, I had to hand mount the slides in Gepe glass mounts. No matter how carefully you handle that stuff scratches occur. Thanks for the memories!
I wish those gepe anti-newton glass mounts still existed.
Same with polachrome, I think they're products worth having around.
willem still wearing them crewnecks in the hot sun! 😩 he humble
Oh dude that lab gave you some really shotty scans, if these slides can be well observed on a light table: then it's possible to get good scans from them
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I have the same thought
I mean at this point, just DSLR scan them. Don't even need any conversion software... just take a picture and done.
Exactly. It doesn't even look like they tried.
Mini lab scanners do struggle with this film type due to the way thr film is engineered it is a black and white film on a color screen. Digital ICE has issues with it along with the sensor itself in relation to the films screen
Pls come hike with me in Washington
That would be so sick!
Please both of you come hike in italy ;)
On my way
Both him and Joe Greer moved out of NY and their work got so refreshed, I love it. Keep up
And about 200,000 other people this year.
New york is dying lmao
@@jetaddict420 why is that funny?
Willem: “the smell is awful”
Also Willem: Sniffs it once more 😂
Had to clear it up for everyone at home who doesn’t have UA-cam’s 4D feature yet
@@WillemVerb bro, where’re you hiding your mamiya 😏
@@tea_drunk. mama mamiya
Its crazy because I always dreamt of something like this. Who would have known it existed lol
Unfortunately they stopped making it ages ago. I paid wayyy more than I would like to admit for this roll
This is actually a really cool idea.
*was
It lost the Polaroid corporation hundreds of millions of dollars
The film, chemistry, and processor served it's purpose. It's a little sad when all of this tech gets forgotten and unused.
Polachrome was really fragile and would scratch very easily when not mounted under glass. When enlarged, it had a very impressionistic grain structure that was unique. The technology was first developed for their Polavision movie cameras. When those failed to catch-on, it was transferred to 35mm. This film, along with other instant 35mm films they made, were often used by fashion photographers for the dreamy look and subtle colors they provided.
Hope you find this tidbit of random information interesting.
Is it possible to scan this film?
"load film in subdued light"..... Loads it in the southern California sun. I love it.
Your lab didn't notice this was positive film instead of negative???? and they just took your money and scanned them in negative anyway?????
loading on beat at 1:07 was beautiful
bro i just listened to this so many times. amazing
collab with grainy days?
Greer and Verbeeck uploads in one day?! Is it Christmas already?
The production of the LA videos are hella nice
It’s a Willem video....my day is complete 🤌🥲
I did a uni assignment a couple years back redesigning packaging for this film!! Great to see it.
Hey man I’m from Belgium and I started medium format lately because of your channel and Grainydays really I appreciate your work and I hope you will continue to share your test and knowledge, love from the fries country
I’d have never expected to see you here in the comments. If you’re still in Brussels let’s go shoot one day!
I'm also from belgium. If you ever want to shoot somewhere hit me up :).
Man, where did you find that? Haha. Did I miss it? What a weird and also appealing film/processing contraption.
I came across it on eBay one night and I knew i had to try it
I have a hunch about what happened with your scans. Lemme nerd out for a sec.
The lines you saw are actually part of the color system. It's called additive color. Those lines are little microscopic rgb color filters. The emulsion itself is black and white.
I think that whole deal might be what screwed up the scans? It's totally different from ektachrome. I've seen better looking scans but it's hit or miss I guess cause it's all so old
We also tried dslr scanning and it gave us the same result which I thought was odd
LA suits you so well man. 🙌 you look like you’re enjoying it a lot as well.
This film has an interesting history in that the technology that was used in the failed Polavision instant Super 8 film was basically carried over to Polachrome 35mm.
Nothing like a thursday evening with Willem trying film that I never ever know that existed...
Polachrome is such a weird idea. When you examine the film really closely you'll see the color dots over the monochrome base film. The weird moire effect is just inherent to the way this film captures 'color' - kind of like the way old shadow mask CRT TVs displayed color.
Even when new this film was ....odd.... Polaroid's monochrome 35mm PolaPan & PolaGraph were MUCH higher resolution. Although I must admit my old PolaChrome slides have aged surprisingly well. Maybe because it doesn't have the fading dye issues of 'normal' color film?
I suspect the biggest problem with this old stock has even more to do with the age of the chemicals in the development pack than the film stock itself.
I’ve Shoot a lot of those, if you do it again I would suggest you to wait 30 second after pushing the lever, and then develop for five minute, I’ve done it like this and it came out great.
Love your work
Keep on doing what your doing
Bro whomever scanned your film? Never touch them again ever.
I use to use this film with the processor unit to proof my shot before using film. I still have the transparency’s. Very cool product. To bad it didn’t take off. In the late 70’s Polaroid made a motion picture film camera that could shoot 5 minutes off footage and process instantly. It came with a back light projector on matte glass so you could watch the instant movie. It was expensive too. I only knew one person who owned it because they had a good income.
Can you see the pictures without a lightpad? Bcos I wish you hadnt cut it from the cannister so that it could be some sort of a keychain where when you pull out the film you could see actual pictures and not the usual negatives
Wow! This is a really late example of a screen-plate mosaic process. I'd believed it had died out in the 30s! Same general concept as the Autochrome, an early color process. Speaking of which, I have a pack that expired a century ago. I have no idea what to do with it.
1:13 man I picked up my A1 after not shooting it for months and said the same thing
These actually look really good considering how old it is. Most slide films don’t hold up. Even with compensating in either the exposure or processing, it’s still hard to get expired E6 to look good.
Loving this. Keep them as they are and display them somewhere in a window. This is always fun to look at for friends and family visiting the flat.
you could have put the negatives in your enlarger and shoot the projected image on the board of the enlarger
Exactly, just wanted to say that. Just put a roll of ektachrome into a tilted my enlarger sideways and it projects extremely beautiful images.
I used a few rolls of this B/W film in the 1990s just as a curiosity. The black layer on the film (which is in fact the negative layer) is supposed to get pulled off and rolled back inside the chemical pack, but often it didn't and you had to wash the film to get it off. The instructions said that the chemical used is a caustic gel, so I was afraid of touching the film after processing!
not impressed by the scanning, slides au natural looked so much better.
I'm honestly amazed that the process actually worked on film that was so old. It never really worked all that well when it was new, and the black goo left on the film was a pretty common occurrence. For the intended use case (projection), it was fast and good enough, if a bit expensive. The slides are also fairly dense, so you would need a xenon slide projector to properly light them on large-ish screens.
the mii channel music caught me off guard
Can you please start a series where you pick up old vintage cameras, and shoot with them? I have my eye on a smena 8, and would love to see how you use it.
love the new quality!
Unlike most color film, Polachrome uses positive filtration. Polachrome is a black and white film taking photographs through a mosaic patchwork of filters. So it appears darker than conventional color slides. I have been able to scan the film to get good results, using settings different from conventional slides [ex, Kodachrome or Ektachrome.] The film appears grainy, because one views the result though the mosaic color filters. In the days before PowerPoint. Polachrome was targeted for quick turnaround for presentations. The film also came in monochrome. I miss this film for the neat effects it produced.
The Polapan B&W version is probably better. I shot both quite a bit in the 90’s. It was popular in fashion and music for a character look.
I just scanned some Polapan last week. It’s easy and looks great digitized.
Your lab didn’t know what they were doing.
In some interviews Anton Corbijn explains that he used extensively the Polachrome back in the day to get crazy colours, as in some photos on the cover of U2’s '’Achtung Baby’.
Crazy. Not just the film, but the chemicals were 20 years past expiration date as well, pretty incredible it gave any resuls at all
I think the lab messed up with scanning
i love ur vídeos and don't know anymore who make this content, this way 💘 please add Portuguese/BR subtitles for your Brazilian fans!! is hard to me understand 100% of the video. hugs from Brazil!!!
Nice and surprising Video! I have one Polaroid lab...but I didn´t find yet the Polaroid Film!!! Thanks to share th world that I´m not crazy! and those Film were really ggod!
Such a fun video! We had never heard of this film before, and seeing it actually come out - magic stuff.
Why weird? First you need to wind it, not crank it. Second the processing chemicals have expired . When i used this film after processing I always washed the film.
You didn't use it correctly.
I used to use this film back in the 80's. I loved it. The downside was that it was more expensive than alternatives. There used to be great slide viewers sold, but everyone had slide projectors, most commonly either Hanimex or Kodak. They were a standard thing in a living room, along with screens.
Cannot believe you did this video before me 😂 love this film!
“Oh, the light metre started working!” I love how I said the exact same thing in the same unexpected revelation while shooting on my old 35mm XD
Seems like your Lab screwed things up! It is absolutely possible to scan positive film! I was so frustated that no lab could scan my negatives in a way that I was satisfied, which lead me to purchase my own scanner! Maybe you can ask around if someone you know has a scanner that can scan films! Would love to see the photos in a better way!
I used to use this film all the time and the B&W too.....I had the motorized processor which worked flawlessly....,as stated elsewhere in these comments, the slides were very delicate .....I miss this film as Well as Polaroid Type 55 which I used a lot....gave a b&w print and a very fine 4x5 negative.
I have 10 rolls and 10 developers of this film, but i never shot it because i don't have this developing plastic box
So basically they scanned a positive film with the same settings they use for negatives? OH.
When I was working at the camera store that we sold LOTS of this film mostly to hospitals, and schools, but it was a big hit to photo students, and that I shot some of this film, I mostly love the B/W film stock, especially the High Contrast one as even though it was 12 shots, the CT version that I did some test shooting push the film, and using the information from the Ansel Adams book on Polaroid photography that I use the method of pushing the film as the results were good, however the film base on the all the Polachrome films were not estar base, they were more acceptable to scratches, and then the emulsion coming off the film base. I wish that Polaroid would bring back the film I still have the hand crank processor after the store close in 2017, a little reminder from the good old days of creative shooting from the minds of Polaroid from Cambridge MA, not the Polaroid from Holland that all they want is to sell high price $$$$ One Step cameras.... Shame Polaroid you had a good thing going...
You can process literally any color negative or positive at home with some investment and effort and the result can easily be better than a lab if you study the process. It's been proven by use of densitometry on various forums. And is also simple and cheap (I get $1 per C41 roll of 36 exposures even if not using chemicals efficiently) Kodak Flexicolor LU LORR developer (CD4 part) can be stored being opened in a fridge door for more than 2 years and not lose any of it's properties. Bleach and fixer don't degrade with time if it's for C-41RA process. But you need to spend $100 for whole kit which will last you for really long time (100+ rolls developer and fixer and 300 rolls RA bleach)
Hei. Just found 8 films of that one with the development device (mine is electric). Have been given that long time ago, but your video just revived the memories. Have u tried overexposing? (Mine is from 1991). Also the device does not open fully, roughly 35°. it seems blocked but there is no trace of rust. Any idea?
Hey i work for filmlab in Thailand i think the photos look bad because they use Noritsu scanner ? im i right? try with fuji frontier (sp-3000 or sp2000) they'll look way much better
Ps. Fuji frontier is better for expired film idk why too. but i never scan same polaroid film you use but normally when our customer use expried film i'll use frontier right away.
Wow that's really something!
This is super-interesting but finding a slide projector for nearly nothing is …well, pretty much the only way to get one these days so I think you should have gone for it. I mean this in a non-negative (pun-intended) constructive way. I just think being able to see the BEST possible representations of these photos, which really do look good in my opinion, would have made this video what it sh(c)ould have been. Peace. (maybe at least do it for yourself, just to see them.)
I shot several rolls of this film back in the late 1980's. It worked well when used as new film. Colors were brilliant, and contrast was excellent. Not as good as Kodachrome, but very good for what it was. I don't remember it being difficult to shoot, except for the low ASA rating. That was what ISO was called back then. Don't know what it would have looked like if it was scanned. But looked good in slide viewers and not bad with projectors. I no longer have any of the slides, so I often wonder how they would have held up over time.
Polaroid did this in B&W as well. One of the first films we shot in photo classes I took 35 years ago. Still have my slides from back then. Brings back memories.
Would it be possible to have these printed on Fuji FP-100C with the Vivitar printer you showed on a previous video? That would probably be cool if it worked
@Willam Verbeck ... I remember when this first came out, and it was probably before you were born.
The results that I saw back then were far better, but only meant as an instant fix for amateur shooters without the space for a full E6 set up, and for being projected.
I have a realy old slide projector from Russia made of cast iron.
It dont uses casettes,but you put your slides in one by one.
I make pictures the old way,but i more like partypictures with friends.
Now my friends ask me for a evening looking old slides with beer.
I thought over exposing slides meant using a higher ISO....like going from 40 to 80. That's what I did and I got good results.
Check out "The Icon" in Beverly Hills-ish, it's right down the street from LACMA, they're awesome technicians and will always deliver pro-grade processing and scans
(Although scanning yourself is the best way)
That’s where those terrible scans came from 😂
@@WillemVerb Oof oof, dear god lmao, yeah I would talk to them dude, they're super nice they could work it out
But a good flatbed or like the Primefilm XE with Vuescan should definitely be sufficient maybe, also messing with the curves in Lightroom might also help meh
Yo mid vid. Iso 25 wide open!? These shots are gonna look nice and bokey 🎉 does polaroid sponsor you yet? Or any fil company???
Hi! i wanted to ask if Canon EOS 5000 or Yashica multi program 109 are good beginner cameras since i want to shoot on film but im very new to it i found both of them for like 60 usd
Trevor Key used the black and white version of it to shoot the cover of Peter Gabriel's 1986 album titled So.
You should watch the movie City of God, it is brazilian and the main character is a photographer, it is awesome and the photography and directing are just amazing.
Do e-6 slide film next
me hearing "20 years expired" when my daily film is usually 30+ years expired haha. good video.
I have like 30 roll of this film(half b&w and half color) and the smell is really bad. But i love the film and the fun in seeing the pictures straight away 😍
R.I.P. those who’ve never heard of Studio 35 200 & are stuck with Kodak Gold.
Maybe that black rubbery stuff was like a Remjet type thing. They coat movie film with it to protect the film while it’s moving through the camera.
Long no longer made. You have that great processor.
I used the chrome for overnight turnaround for church events.
The B&W film was more fun.
I wish polaroid partners with kodak and fujifilm to bring back instant 35mm film photography
Just dropped $300 for 3 films and the developing system. Looking forward to using it.
You've got to get a projector. That's what slides are for. Nan Goldin did her best work for projection.
I know this suggestion won't be popular. But why not do a quick scan with your phone and snap seed. It's great in a pinch. You're lab did a not so great job.
Bought some of this a few weeks ago knowing nothing about. Glad to see a vid done in it
Those turned out pretty good. Loved the video. Subscribed
Do a video on those Marlboro Vivitar disposable cameras. Im tempted to buy one just to keep but I’d use it if it’s any good.
I shot a roll of Polablue and it was dry :/ this stuff is super expensive to get today, god I wish they brought it back
So, I photographed a deceased photographer's home last week and the executor gave me a box that had been in an attic since her death 18 years ago containing a dozen rolls of this film. I really miss this film. Back in the day I would take it on dive trips and shoot a roll before diving with my 6x7 camera. I'm testing out one of the rolls now and we'll soon see if I get any images at all.
I was just gifted 24 boxes of this film along with a processor. Going to be a ton of fun messing around with it!!
I know this is an older video but I just got my kit a few days ago… and I noticed that there is a leader retriever underneath the processor. Idk if you knew or just wanted to try that cool hack lol.
I wonder if anyone has repurposed that box to develop regular c41 film
Ayeee made it to see the video great job willem
yoo hoo you really don't need a "smart phone" to count 5 seconds that amount of time elapsed while you were picking up the smart phone lol kids wow
A Willem AND a Joe Greer vid in one day. What a dream!
The video quality is so much better than before, did you upgrade your camera?
it seems crazy that the slides look so good yet the scans don't?